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post #81 of 184
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Originally Posted by shubidua View Post

My guess is that they kept the 3G because it was the same enclosure, so only a couple of internal parts changed. I think this years line up will be iPhone HD only in 3 different versions: 16, 32 and 64 GB, as I don't think that they will keep production lines for the 3G(S) model around any longer.

Here's my guess:

16G 3GS - $49.99
16G 3HD - $99.99
32G 3HD - $199.00
64G 3HD - $299.99

I think Apple will make a new pricing move in order to counter the BOGO free promotions that Android and Blackberrys enjoy. It also will ensure they surprise the market the same way they did when the Iphone's price dropped to $199 in 2008 and $99 in 2009.

Of course therre won't be a margin hit on Apple as they will still get their regular wholesale price from AT&T. This is the strategic pricing move I'd recommend.
post #82 of 184
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Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

If this is actually the new phone we'll have to wait and see but, to me, it looks much more robust than previous phones (not that the older phones weren't strong enough). Case, buttons... everything looks more solid.

Yeah, I don't speak Vietnamese, but several times he seemed to be conveying (through body language and how he handled it), that this thing was rigid and tough. The current iPhone can be run over by a car and tossed in a swimming pool and still keep working, I'm thinking this new one could be chucked at a brick wall or dropped off a building and still "keep on ticking."
post #83 of 184
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Originally Posted by Mike11 View Post

Around 300 ppi is actually not that uncommon as you seem to think. In the western world they are around since at least early 2007 in smartphones (Toshiba Portege G900, 313 ppi). Most known examples would be HTC's Touch Diamond, Diamand 2, Touch Pro (all around 290 ppi) and most recently the Sony Ericsson X1 (312 ppi).
So I don't see a technical or financial problem with a 960x640 screen in all 4th-gen iPhones or at least in the high-end SKU (64GB/80GB). And it's the only resolution that makes sense given the pixel doubling (anything else would had to be announced or supported in the OS 4.0 beta SDK) and the iPad's 2x modus (remember how you read everywhere how pixelated and ugly 2x iPhone apps on the iPad are? Problem solved!)

I didn't know that 300 ppi was that common now (and I did no research either ). I don't see them having different screens in different models, as it would extend the need of support for low res screens even further.
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That is nothing. Long nails are a status symbol.

Yeah, it means that you "don't have to lift a finger" to work (i.e. are wealthy) since it's difficult to do most jobs having long fingernails.

Also come in handy for certain illicit activities which require enough free time and money to engage in on a regular basis... or just playing guitar.
 
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post #85 of 184
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Originally Posted by techno View Post

hmmm. While I enjoy looking at these photos, I can't help to think about the nature of the articles AI posted regarding Gizmodo episode. It strikes me as a little hypocritical to now be eagerly posting these photos. I guess it wasn't so much that Gizmodo revealed trade secrets as it was that they got caught or paid for the phone.

Just wondering.

For the millionth time, what part of: "it's illegal to buy stolen goods" do you not understand?
post #86 of 184
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Originally Posted by swinge View Post

.Would be interesting to hear iPad arguments though...



It is magical.
post #87 of 184
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Originally Posted by chronster View Post

This next iphone is gonna be a beast. I really hope Jobs can see what Adobe has done with flash for Android and reconsider his stance. If this new iphone has an A4 processor, it means it's running at 1Ghz right? That meets the 800mhz minimum Adobe has said is needed for flash mobile! I know this goes against the religion around here, but I think iPhone OS will support Flash someday and after it does, Jobs will justify his change of heart by saying he did it only because it's better than everyone else lol.

Adobe has done for flash on android? You mean that /box running 2.2 that won't be out for who knows how long running "special" version of flash made just for that hardware? All they showed was video and it still didn't run smooth, if all they are doing it making video run better than what is the point? How about battery life, did you see any indication of battery life in that video, yah either did anyone else. Talk about drinking the koolaid.
post #88 of 184
Yeah I checked and none of the car navigation apps/systems have maps for Japan which sucks balls. It's ALWAYS North America and Europe...now China.

This link is promising though.

Google Maps Navigation could come to iPhone, other platforms soon
post #89 of 184
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

The California police are now going to break down doors in Vietnam?

I hope not. It didn't work out too well last time...
post #90 of 184
Wow.
Scariest iPhone Hand Model ever.
post #91 of 184
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Originally Posted by Blastdoor View Post

Exactly. Apple really screwed up here by going after the Gizmodo guys so hard. I predicted at the time that they were just creating an incentive for people to take these things out of the country, and here it has happened already. Really, all in all, the Gizmodo thing went as well as Apple could have hoped -- they got the prototype back, after all. They won't be getting this one back, nor will they likely ever get back a prototype that goes missing again. It's now crystal clear that you have to get it out of the country, and so that's what will happen from now on.

I think you have it exactly backwards.

This seems to be a prototype phone stuck in test mode, probably stolen out of the manufacturing chain at some point. These phones would presumably be tracked and the person who stole it is likely in a lot more trouble than Jason Chen is going to be, both because it's the difference between a first world democracy and ... something else, and because it's more of a direct crime than the chain of events Gizmodo described.

What's happened here is that because Gizmodo set the precedent, all of a sudden there is a known "market" for stolen prototypes. The Gizmodo affair proved that tech review sites are willing to pay big bucks for stuff like this.

Apple isn't at fault for going after Gizmodo and nothing they did in that case could be construed as contributing to this event as far as I can see. There is on the other hand a logical argument to be made that Gizmodo being willing to pay that much money is what provides the incentive to some (probably Foxconn), worker to risk his entire livelihood by stealing a phone.
post #92 of 184
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Originally Posted by shubidua View Post

I think I missed that I'm an on italian forum ...

Seriously guys, would you mind using english ?

What's it to you? Seriously, you telling them to use English is way ruder than them talking in Italian in the first place.
post #93 of 184
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

The current iPhone can be ...tossed in a swimming pool and still keep working,



Huh? From what I have heard, it cannot even survive being brought from an air conditioned house into a humid outdoors. That kills the moisture sensors and sometimes the circuitry.
post #94 of 184
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Originally Posted by Stevie View Post

It is magical.

Lol! I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not
post #95 of 184
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

What's happened here is that because Gizmodo set the precedent, all of a sudden there is a known "market" for stolen prototypes. The Gizmodo affair proved that tech review sites are willing to pay big bucks for stuff like this.


This response was predicted. Kudos to the guy who predicted it!

This leak is the fault of Gizmodo.
post #96 of 184
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

The California police are now going to break down doors in Vietnam?

Nah, the Vietnamese Army.
post #97 of 184
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Originally Posted by success View Post

Btw, come summertime how do I migrate my iPod stuff to my new iPhone? Just use the iTunes back up and restore feature?

Easy. Your iTunes library will still be there. When you activate the iPhone, you will be able to choose what you want synced -- contacts, music, apps, the lot.
post #98 of 184
I don't know..
I still think there is something missing from this whole; Extra Extra! News Flash! pictures of new iPhone; found / stolen / exposed!! story. I just don't know...
I am also thinking more and more that this really is not the actual form of the case (ie, that it's a prototype / working model).
I do not find this case objectionable. There are some things I quite like about it. But I just don't think this is what we are going to see when Steve Jobs walks on stage at it's premier.
We'll see.
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Originally Posted by macnyc View Post

For the millionth time, what part of: "it's illegal to buy stolen goods" do you not understand?

I was thinking about going out and buying a stolen, erm found, Ferrari, then blog about how it drives, that makes it legal right =D
post #100 of 184
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

What's it to you? Seriously, you telling them to use English is way ruder than them talking in Italian in the first place.

Maybe my english isn't good enough and I might have put my words wrongly. My intention was to ask them in a friendly way, not to "tell" them.
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post #101 of 184
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

What's it to you? Seriously, you telling them to use English is way ruder than them talking in Italian in the first place.

Why not? You are saying that asking is ruder? Because it was a request, not a demand.

I don't post English onto non-English sites, because I do think it is rude to do that.
post #102 of 184
It's plain ugly. I think Apple will want a kind of similarity between the iPhone en the iPad. And this design would mean I couldn't use my two iPhone docks anymore.
post #103 of 184
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Originally Posted by Bageljoey View Post

Don't forget the battery is only a fraction of the size of the iPad's...

But so is the display...
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post #104 of 184
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Originally Posted by schmrtzzz View Post

It's plain ugly. I think Apple will want a kind of similarity between the iPhone en the iPad. And this design would mean I couldn't use my two iPhone docks anymore.

I was hoping for something that had an iPad-like back too. It may be that it wouldn't do as well for reception strength, because iPad has an antenna in the Apple logo on the back, the logo shouldn't be so big on iPhone. I was hoping that they make a sleeker version of the first generation model, which had a black section like iPad 3G. Having a whole back might be a lot better for a small device. The final thing that threw me off was the multi-piece perimeter. With Apple going to gung-ho on unibody, it seems like a step back for them, though the stamped perimeter is probably a lot more efficient to make, unibody has something like 50% material removal, a one-piece perimeter might have needed 95%.

Apple hasn't had any qualms leaving behind accessory compatibility. The fact that the docks were compatible with two generations of phones was almost an aberration for them.
post #105 of 184
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

The California police are now going to break down doors in Vietnam?

While I'm sure there will be repercussions to the manufacturer, the difference is that they were not in possession of or fencing stolen (by statute) goods.
Pretty simple.
post #106 of 184
Why does everybody compare this to all sorts off Nokia's?

If anything it looks like the LG Prada:





Anyways, I like the look of the thing and hope that there's a 64GB version coming.
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post #107 of 184
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Originally Posted by myapplelove View Post

I might be in the minority who don't like it...it might grow on me... but so far it hasn't....

I liked how the tapered edges complemented the vertical and horizontal lines on the front with some curvyness. Now i'ts just a tad too boxy.

I agree. But like most of Apple's products I find once you can hold it you will appreciate it more!
post #108 of 184
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Originally Posted by str1f3 View Post

Have you seen Flash on Android? I've seen it crash on a tablet device last week and there are reports from this past weekend that Adobe showed it off again only to have it crash twice while loading ecodozoo.

BTW Hulu is blocking smartphones now because they want push a subscription service on smartphones and tablets.

I only saw it on a Nexus One and I was impressed, especially since the only alternatives I've ever seen were on WM (flash lite, and Skyfire.)

I haven't seen it crash though so I guess I'm jumping the gun at my judgement.

Got vids of the crashes? BTW, the video I saw of it running great was on Android 2.2. Are you sure the videos you saw were not of 2.1 running the 10.1 install?

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Originally Posted by AdamIIGS View Post

Adobe has done for flash on android? You mean that /box running 2.2 that won't be out for who knows how long running "special" version of flash made just for that hardware? All they showed was video and it still didn't run smooth, if all they are doing it making video run better than what is the point? How about battery life, did you see any indication of battery life in that video, yah either did anyone else. Talk about drinking the koolaid.

Are you trying to be sarcastic or are you serious? First of all, if by "that box" you mean a Nexus One, then yes (which is fair since Adobe DID say 800mhz minimum cpu) and they are saying it'll be out in June (maybe I'm thinking of something else and getting it mixed up, but I'm under the impression it's June.)

Now, as far as what they have shown, they have shown more than just video (which ran good btw.) They showed full 3d as well as interaction with flash games.

As far as battery life goes, the only reports I've heard are from early adopters running a droid incredible. People say battery life is not impacted any more than if you were using the device's radio for something else.

WTF are you going on about drinking the Kool Aid for? Your single comment here was filled with misinformation and assumptions centered around a predetermined point of view.
post #109 of 184
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Originally Posted by Stevie View Post

Very ugly ad boxy. Like a 1970's econobox car

Ha, but to play devil's advocate, the current iPhone looks like a cheap piece of plastic with fake chrome around the edge, which personally reminds me of the dashboard inside that 1970's econobox car.

It's all down to personal preference, but I am stoked about the new design. I think it fits in much better with the cold, minimalistic metallic approach they've taken with the MacBooks and iPads.
post #110 of 184
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Originally Posted by suzerain View Post

Ha, but to play devil's advocate, the current iPhone looks like a cheap piece of plastic with fake chrome around the edge, which personally reminds me of the dashboard inside that 1970's econobox car.

It's all down to personal preference, but I am stoked about the new design. I think it fits in much better with the cold, minimalistic metallic approach they've taken with the MacBooks and iPads.

I think it would be cool to offer the 4g in a classic body style, much like Ford did with the F150 when they went boxier recently
post #111 of 184
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Originally Posted by Tulkas View Post

I expect someone will say that Giz's actions encouraged this guy to feel free to do this.

Yes, 10-1 odds it will be the media, as they seem perfectly happy distorting the truth in order to convey that shield rights gives them the right to break the law.
post #112 of 184
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Originally Posted by christopher126 View Post

I agree. But like most of Apple's products I find once you can hold it you will appreciate it more!

As long as it has an Apple logo on it? I wonder if you'd take a blind folded test and know which was an Apple product or does the symbol taint your thoughts?
post #113 of 184
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Originally Posted by jbman73175 View Post

Not trying to be a killjoy here folks, but the first thing I thought when I saw this thing turn up in Vietnam, was the first prototype (Gizmodo's) was a fake or this one is a fake pawning itself off to be like the Gizmodo find... I know there are all the chip engravings and such, but just the first thing that popped in my mind.

It seems pretty clear that the Gizmodo bar model was an engineering prototype. The one here seems to be a factory pre-run or from off the actual assembly line - i.e. the real thing.

I also noticed the front-facing camera. This is good news because this is what a lot of people have been asking for. Great going Apple!! (Once again)

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post #114 of 184
I find it interesting that the seams could provide an electrical break in the case between both sides of the device. Grab the phone, you close the gap.

So.... anyone know why it might be beneficial to have a phone that "knows" when it's being held?
post #115 of 184
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Originally Posted by techno View Post

hmmm. While I enjoy looking at these photos, I can't help to think about the nature of the articles AI posted regarding Gizmodo episode. It strikes me as a little hypocritical to now be eagerly posting these photos. I guess it wasn't so much that Gizmodo revealed trade secrets as it was that they got caught or paid for the phone.

Just wondering.


Appleinsider didn't Huy stolon good. Ses the difference? No, check your morality. I'm not wondering.

Besides,gizmodo also made a fool of the engineer who loose the iPhone and gave all name and details to the Internet. It was despicable.

AI never did that.
post #116 of 184
Seems as though the style is more CLASSIC than SLEEK. Basically it now comes down to the performance and connectivity. If this new 4g improves upon the antenna causing connectivity problems of previous phones its a big improvement.
As for the screen a higher resolution would be nice, hard to tell from pictures.
The A4 chip should be a big improvement in performance.

Lastly BATTERY LIFE..........If this phone doesn't improve on the previous phones battery life then it really would be a disaster. I know I can speak for many when I say that they're tired of charging their phones a few times a day.


We'll know the answers soon enough and hopefully they're what we want to hear.
post #117 of 184
About adobe flash: it's not June. And the demo had some crashes. It's not ready and adobe didn't tell June. It's end of year for now.
post #118 of 184
Ahhh for the good old days - when Apple's announcements were a real surprise! These scoops sure spoil the fun.

I don't really blame AI for republishing what is already out there - but I wish the blog feeding frenzy would just hold off.
post #119 of 184
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Originally Posted by the cool gut View Post

Yes, 10-1 odds it will be the media, as they seem perfectly happy distorting the truth in order to convey that shield rights gives them the right to break the law.

Read up ^^^
You have already lost that bet.

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post #120 of 184
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Originally Posted by GQB View Post

While I'm sure there will be repercussions to the manufacturer, the difference is that they were not in possession of or fencing stolen (by statute) goods.
Pretty simple.

Unfortunately, for some people, no - it's not.
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