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The next beta of iPhone OS 4 has dropped, inching Apple toward its final release, which is expected to coincide with WWDC in June.

The new release appears to invoke tethering options for AT&T in the US. iPhone OS 3 introduced tethering support in software, but AT&T has been among the carriers failing to support the feature.

A new configuration panel appears to indicate that AT&T has worked out its issues related to refusing to support tethering on the iPhone (it supports tethering with other phones, but apparently fears that iPhone users would overwhelm its network) and will have a billing program in place by the time iPhone OS 4 ships.

The new Internet Tethering setup panel directs users to call AT&T or visit its website to setup tethering on their account.

Other new features spotted by beta testers as noted by Gizmodo include the ability to view photo Camera Rolls in landscape, more useful wallpaper images, an option to turn off group MMS messaging, and a generally faster interface throughout, ranging from call dialing to Maps.

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Really, I do want to be excited about this, but it's not going to be much good when I get dropped every 5-10 minutes...
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I know the second generation iPhone 3G won't support multitasking, but I'm very interested to know how the "improved performance" mentioned applies to that model specifically. To say that Maps could use a performance boost is an understatement.
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Finally teth is comin'!
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Finally teth is comin'!
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Really, I do want to be excited about this, but it's not going to be much good when I get dropped every 5-10 minutes...

Stop torturing yourself and get a phone on a different carrier. I get 5 bars all the time down here in Portland, but I've been up there to Seattle, and I know it can be pretty spotty in places. For the money they charge, such performance is unacceptable. I wouldn't put up with it if I were you.
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Stop torturing yourself and get a phone on a different carrier. I get 5 bars all the time down here in Portland, but I've been up there to Seattle, and I know it can be pretty spotty in places. For the money they charge, such performance is unacceptable. I wouldn't put up with it if I were you.

or move to the uk
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Does anyone know if the new iPhone will be out at the same time as the OS, or which will come out first?
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Originally Posted by capoeira4u View Post

Does anyone know if the new iPhone will be out at the same time as the OS, or which will come out first?

If I remember correctly OS 3.0 came out a couple of days before the 3GS but I may be wrong
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generally faster interface throughout, ranging from call dialing to Maps.

Is the faster interface with or without multitasking does anyone know?
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Why are all the blog sites fixating on tethering - can't we have a more general 'what's new in b4' please?
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Originally Posted by akf2000 View Post

Why are all the blog sites fixating on tethering - can't we have a more general 'what's new in b4' please?

Wallpaper and bug fixes
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Wallpaper and bug fixes

So we finally get home-screen backgrounds on the 3G?
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So we finally get home-screen backgrounds on the 3G?

Nope.
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If backgrounds are not supported in the 3G version. That would be crazy lame.
I have the 3GS but still. Come on.
You could somehow see why no multitasking on the 3G.. But backgrounds.
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Originally Posted by capoeira4u View Post

Does anyone know if the new iPhone will be out at the same time as the OS, or which will come out first?

According to history 4.0 will be available with the next generation iPhone. However my crystal ball is somewhat foggy, so I don't know anything about it ...

Edit: after some research, last year the beta 5 of OS 3.0 was given to devs on May 7th, announced june 8th, and released June 17th.
I was hoping the fact that OS 4 beta 4 was out could indicate an early launch, but it looks like we still have no indication whatsoever on when the new iPhone will launch.

(http://www.appleinsider.com/articles..._0_beta_5.html)
(http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...june_17th.html)

Edit2: The 3GS went on sale the 19th of June, so two days after OS 3.0 became available.
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If backgrounds are not supported in the 3G version. That would be crazy lame.
I have the 3GS but still. Come on.
You could somehow see why no multitasking on the 3G.. But backgrounds.

you will get homescreen backgrounds on the 3G, as well as other features such as folders: however more demanding features such as video recording and multitasking will remain 3GS and above only.

EDIT: the above is wrong, sorry
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ATT can suck my left testicle. We already pay for an data play, it should matter how you use the play. Big Brother just wants more to set up there inferior network. I don't know how many of you out there are content with this lacking network. I for one, am waiting till Verizon get the phone. Death to ATT.
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ATT can suck my left testicle. We already pay for an data play, it should matter how you use the play. Big Brother just wants more to set up there inferior network. I don't know how many of you out there are content with this lacking network. I for one, am waiting till Verizon get the phone. Death to ATT.

I'm not american, but over here (UK) all the service providers charge extra for tethering so I don't see why it would be unreasnoable for AT&T to charge for tethering on the iPhone
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I'm not american, but over here (UK) all the service providers charge extra for tethering so I don't see why it would be unreasnoable for AT&T to charge for tethering on the iPhone

But do you get another data cap? On the three carriers (O2, Orange and Vodafone) I have found limits of 750 - 1000 MB on the data plans with fair usage policy. So it would make sense to charge for tethering if they give you more usage.

I was hoping they wouldn't charge for tethering if you stay within the limit fixed in the plan... \
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you will get homescreen backgrounds on the 3G, as well as other features such as folders: however more demanding features such as video recording and multitasking will remain 3GS and above only.

No backgrounds for home screen on the 3G in any of the Betas yet.
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Originally Posted by shubidua View Post

But do you get another data cap? On the three carriers (O2, Orange and Vodafone) I have found limits of 750 - 1000 MB on the data plans with fair usage policy. So it would make sense to charge for tethering if they give you more usage.

I was hoping they wouldn't charge for tethering if you stay within the limit fixed in the plan... \

I'm on o2 and they only offer an unlimited data (fair usage applies) plan which is £8.50 a month ($12) add-on for the pay-go package which dosnt allow tethering but if you have a contract the same £8.50 applies and you can opt into unlimited tethering for, according to the website, no extra charge. all that is required is a computer running iTunes 8.2 or higher
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Originally Posted by irnchriz View Post

No backgrounds for home screen on the 3G in any of the Betas yet.

oh, wow- that surprises me! From the keynote I got the impression that multitasking was the only 'tentpole' feature of OS 4 that apple wern't including for the 3G
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oh, wow- that surprises me! From the keynote I got the impression that multitasking was the only 'tentpole' feature of OS 4 that apple wern't including for the 3G

I don't think that background image for the home screen was a 'tentpole' feature...

Edit: just checked, it isn't a tentpole feature.
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post #25 of 47
The option for Group Messaging looks to me like it's not limited to MMS but any messaging in Messages application.
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Does anyone know if the new iPhone will be out at the same time as the OS, or which will come out first?

I believe that last year the new OS release preceded the phone release by at least several days. Probably to allow most of the upgraders to do so before they start trying to do mass activations for the new phones.
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ATT can suck my left testicle. We already pay for an data play, it should matter how you use the play. Big Brother just wants more to set up there inferior network. I don't know how many of you out there are content with this lacking network. I for one, am waiting till Verizon get the phone. Death to ATT.

Verizonwireless charges extra for tethering to a BlackBerry, on top of paying for data on the BlackBerry itself.
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" ... spotted by beta testers as noted by Gizmodo"

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Sorry, but from now on when read something like that

Will always see guys hanging around in a Bar

Waiting on some drunk dumb ass "Tester" to leave his "Betas" behind

...............................

In related news ...

Betcha any "ATT Tethering Plan" will pretty much follow same as iPad's Pay-As-You-Go

But that's just a guess

However, operatives are stalking Bars near ATT's Headquarters

As info gets left behind, we'll pass it on to Gizmodo





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post #29 of 47
I have been waiting and waiting and waiting for this announcement. Awesome news. Now we just need to have the pricing details. Maybe they will break the pattern and do pricing similar to the iPad rather than typical tethering price plan.
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tethering?
lots of people will like that
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ATT can suck my left testicle.

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I know the second generation iPhone 3G won't support multitasking, but I'm very interested to know how the "improved performance" mentioned applies to that model specifically. To say that Maps could use a performance boost is an understatement.

I'm not sure if they were comparing it to iPhone OS 3 or iPhone OS 4 beta 3. When background processing and such were added in beta 2 the iPhone OS UI got a lot less smooth. Animations were sometimes jumpy and there were occasional lags. Of course it's just beta and you can count on Apple to make their interface smooth as silk before release, so I took the "improved UI performance" to mean that they'd worked that out, not they they'd made great leaps over 3.x.
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Nice dream!

I'd like to point out that tethering *is* free most places except the USA, so it's not exactly a "crazy" dream even though it likely won't happen.
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I'm not sure if they were comparing it to iPhone OS 3 or iPhone OS 4 beta 3. When background processing and such were added in beta 2 the iPhone OS UI got a lot less smooth. Animations were sometimes jumpy and there were occasional lags. Of course it's just beta and you can count on Apple to make their interface smooth as silk before release, so I took the "improved UI performance" to mean that they'd worked that out, not they they'd made great leaps over 3.x.

Typically, optimisations are done for the shipping hardware too, so it's possible that the deprecated hardware (3G), will actually have lower performance. It's usually the way things go because it's not a good idea to lower performance and capabilities for the new shipping product in order not to screw with the two-generations old product.
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I'd like to point out that tethering *is* free most places except the USA, so it's not exactly a "crazy" dream even though it likely won't happen.

Careful, you are going to get some people jumping on you over using the word 'free'.

But you are totally right...it is included in many countries by many carriers. I don't know that many carrier that offer "unlimited" data plans include tethering though. I consider my 6GB basically unlimited and tethering is included.

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Typically, optimisations are done for the shipping hardware too, so it's possible that the deprecated hardware (3G), will actually have lower performance. It's usually the way things go because it's not a good idea to lower performance and capabilities for the new shipping product in order not to screw with the two-generations old product.

While true, my test hardware is the 3GS which should run iPhone OS 4 smoothly. It's good news if they're working on optimization now... sounds about right for a June release.
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Haven't noticed the button to turn off cellular data before. Maybe AT&T will give the option to not have a mandatory data plan if you can turn cellular data off (without using a hack)?
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Originally Posted by fuzz_ball View Post

Really, I do want to be excited about this, but it's not going to be much good when I get dropped every 5-10 minutes...

Worked fantastic in US when they let us test it for free last year. Unfortunately moving to 3.0 broke it.
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yay for character count in messaging!
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Yes ... I still don't have an iPhone, and tethering is the one feature that is most likely to make me go for it.

The double-resolution screen that was reported here a couple days ago, and a new camera with a flash, would also be pretty compelling.
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