Originally Posted by Asherian
I'm not promoting Google, I'm talking about the realities of the market. Android is hot right now, that's how it is.
Just because it's not rah-rah-Apple doesn't mean it's promoting Google. I don't care who "wins", I'm happy with competition. As I said, I regularly use both my iPhone 3GS and Nexus One. I didn't even buy the N1, I got it for free...I bought the iPhone. I use a PC at work and a MacBook Pro at home. I've no allegiances, I just don't care.
These companies don't do anything for me. I use what I like, period.
Edit: But Google does give out better swag at conferences. I get phones each time I go to Google conferences...Apple gives me CDs of trial software.
And Apple does reject apps for stupid reasons, which doesn't endear them to my heart much these days. My company's app was rejected after a 3 week wait because we implemented a VOIP system in a feature so people could connect with businesses without paying long distance. They forced us to remove it. Our Android version has that feature.
Seriously, you think your message on these forums hasn't been overwhelmingly pro Google? Maybe there's an issue of lack of self-awareness there. You seem to care very much that Apple doesn't win and that Google does. Maybe that's just the swag talking, which you seem very excited about, but, are you really that shallow that you judge a company by the free stuff they give you?
The bottom line is, a lot of us are disgusted by the lies and bullshit that come out of Google while they run around breaking the law (WiFi data collection, Google Books, etc. etc. etc.) and conducting surveillance on practically everyone on the planet that has a computer or smartphone. Google is
Big Brother, and their success, if they are allowed to continue to do what they do comes at the expense of all of us, our privacy, and, in the end, our degree of freedom.
The ways in which Apple is controlling are trivially unimportant compared to the dangers posed by the giant and ever growing, ever widening and deepening, database of information that Google is collecting on everyone. Their disrespect for the law shows that they are not a company to be trusted, and they should definitely not be trusted to not abuse the information they collect. Their control over access to information is equally disturbing, especially given their rapacious greed and obvious desire to dominate, and they will certainly end up abusing this control if they have not already. Google does evil, intends evil, and is evil.
(And, let's not forget the danger of the government getting their hands on this data. Imagine, for a moment, that this database of information on practically every American were available to Joe McCarthy and/or the House Un-American Activities Committee in the 1950s. Think you've done nothing wrong? Think again. There's McCarthy on the Senate floor waving a piece of paper with your name on it, denouncing you as a communist because you were among the people found to have visited some left wing website. Think it can't happen in America? It already has, it can happen again.)
Maybe you just haven't thought these issues through, or think you don't care about them. Maybe you're so embedded in your geek life that all you can see is technology for technologies sake. Maybe you're just self-centered and can only focus on that app rejection from Apple and how it wounded your ego. I don't know which it is, I don't care which it is, but what I see is someone who can't see above the technological issues to what is really at stake here.
Google is a dangerous, destructive company. Most of what they produce is imitative crap that is successful only because it's free or rides on the aura of the company's success. They are a threat to privacy and liberty, which depend on each other for their existence. Google represents the very worst of what American free enterprise is.
Apple is a creative company. What they produce is the very best in almost every line of business they become involved in, and it succeeds because it is the best, and people recognize that, and by leading the way, and showing how good these things can be, they make everything from everybody better*. Apple represents the very best of what American free enterprise is supposed to be.
So, think about exactly what it is you are promoting the next time you decide to tell everyone how great Google and Android are. Think about the consequences of a world where Google beats down Apple, which in Google's eyes in the only path to success, to destroy what stands in their way. Think about what Google domination in the tech and other sectors really means. Think about your personal responsibility in contributing to that. This is a battle of Good vs Evil, and it's pretty clear which company is which.
* Android hasn't improved because of Google's commitment to excellence; remember what the first images of the Google phone looked like? Android has improved because Apple set the bar so high that everyone had to up their game to even stay in it. Anyone who thinks anything else is simply not being honest with themselves.