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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

Nice summation of the facts!

Unfortunately the technobigots lack the perspective and common sense to look beyond their own set of knowledge/beliefs.

BTW, I am a pretty happy AAPL shareholder!

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They feel threatened, I think, by anything that might make their particular skills less valuable or necessary. In a basic way, it's an understandable defense mechanism. Not that we have to accept it. We can still decide who is right about the future and where it is to be found.

For those of who've been around, we see the familiar refrains -- the technorati are saying precisely the same things about the iPad that they said about the Mac, 25 years ago.

BTW, good quote from Doc Searles. I met him a number of years ago at MWSF. We had a very nice chat. An interesting person.
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post #82 of 92
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Hardcore heavy lifting? Its hardcore to even take you seriously. Hardcore like putting something in a folder. How about hardcore like running more then one thing at once. How about hardcore like using sites that require Flash. How about real hardcore stuff like working on a keynote and streaming music at the same time. The iPad can not do any of the above. Also there isn't anything hardcore or even mid level about any of the above.

These are requirements that my 13 year old daughter needs and wants. They aren't even my requirements. So if you have requirements less then that of a middle school student then who is really the outlier? Certainly not me in this conversation.

Middle school students these days needs to be able to use file systems, know how to manage folders, create Powerpoints/keynotes and then burn them to disks for their teachers. So an iPad can not even meet the basic daily needs of the average middle school student. It is not a computer replacement.

Damn that some hardcore stuff.

You are kidding with the reference to schools right? The government here has just purchase 500, yes 500, for an initial trial to use them in classrooms to replace textbooks completely. Tell me the school kids are going to say no thanks because the can't access a file system!

I think you are showing your biases with all this talk about file systems... the mainframe business not what it once was?

Sorry, should sop stooping to your level
post #83 of 92
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Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post

While I like my iPad and have been using one since the day it was released no matter what the numbers are, it is still just a big iPod Touch that doesn't play Flash.

Also while it comes in handy at times I use my MBP 98% of the time. The iPad just doesn't really cut it for anything except web surfing and ereading.

You are borderline the worst poster here. Had to take you off ignore for a minute just to add my two cents to this unignorable post.
post #84 of 92
Apple just announced 2M sold in 60 days
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Originally Posted by Garion View Post

Makes me wonder: what's the fastest selling computer or gadget so far? The Nintendo Wii? The Sony Playstation? How many did they sell the first year in the market? And could the iPad break that record?

This was discussed a month or so ago in this forum. Someone provided numbers for the Wii, Playstation, and xBox.

I believe that of all electronic gadgets, the iPhone 3GS was the fastest to 1 million sold. The iPad was #2.

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Actually 10 million looks conservative now, since we're counting internationally. It might sell 15 million by the end of the year!

I agree that the demand will be there, but I'm not sure that the production capacity is there to meet the demand. It appears that demand will exceed supply for quite a while. Considering that the holidays and back to school are still ahead of us, I suspect that there will be quite a few disappointed people come Christmas.

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For those that would to take advantage of what a desktop has to offer (larger screen) then an iPad would be a good option. I am in the same situation as you, the iPad doesn't really fill a gap for me seeing I am always using my mobile and MBP.

The reality is I use it because it was given to our group at work. So if someone is going to hand me a 64gb iPad i'm not going to turn it down.

The reality is that you are completely incapable of understanding someone who is not a geek. No one ever claimed that the iPad was for everyone (except idiot trolls). The iPad serves a great niche both for people who don't have another computer but who has limited needs (typical user: my 80 year old mother) or for people who do have another computer but want a lightweight content delivery device (typical user, my daughter). And the market seems to be agreeing that the demand for this type of device is immense.

I really have to wonder what kind of psychological disorder creates trolls. It's not hard to understand someone who likes a product and wants to talk about their experiences. But to go to an Apple forum simply to pi$$ and moan about how you think a product is no good and to spend countless hours badmouthing a product that you would never buy (and are proud of saying you would never buy) clearly indicates some kind of psychosis. Maybe it's Narcissistic Personality Disorder (where the person believes that the world revolves around them and that nothing outside of their experience has any validity). Or maybe it's a Sadism complex with the need to inflict pain on others. Or maybe it's simply that you're incapable of dealing with change.

In any event, it's really sad so see how many people spend so much time spreading lies and FUD about products simply because they're not right for them. Sorry, but there are billions of people in the world and they are not all going to be like you. Thank goodness.
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post #86 of 92
Started a new thread on the 2 million sold figure...

 

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post #87 of 92
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... Stoop to my level? On your best day you don't have 5% of my technical ability.

You know, your empty, egomaniacal boasting might carry slightly more weight if your were ever right about anything.
post #88 of 92
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At least I post real life opinions based on using a product unlike most here that simply post nonsense about something they have never used. Or make comments like this with nothing behind them. The only thing empty is the space between your ears.

Maybe just once why don't you put some facts behind our comments instead of just commenting about how you dislike my comments. You know actually form an opininon for yourself.

I post plenty of opinions on AI, most of which have nothing to do with you. (You really aren't the center of anyone's universe, you know.) But, you do have to admit, that your track record as a technology pundit is pretty poor.

Frankly, I think anyone who does not find the iPad is a remarkable and revolutionary device is either too locked in to a rigid idea of what "computing" is and ought to be (and the iPad does turn that concept on its head) or simply isn't able to get past certain biases (possible, in your case) to see it for what it is. Sure, one can justifiably pick a nit here or there, but, overall, it's a complete game changer, and, in fact, the experience is so completely different from an iPhone/iPod Touch that there is little, beyond raw technical similarities, that they have in common.

And, yes, I own an iPad WiFi+3G. Two in fact.
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Okay lets go point by point.

You have to wait for your laptop to boot up? Thats funny have you not heard of sleep mode. You can put any Mac or for that matter any system in sleep mode and it take one click and your system is up.

Yes, I have a 17" AlBook and am quite aware... then, you must navigate through a series of windows to get to what you want.

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Well I still work at IBM installing operating systmes on Mainframes. Its a good job if you can get it.

Good for you. When I worked there it was the best job in the world.

Are you in DPD? What job title? What job level? When I left IBM (1980) I was a Consulting Market Support Rep for the Data Processing division. At the time there were 200 Consulting-level employees out of 450,000.

In 16 1/2 years at IBM, I never had a boss that made more salary than me!

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In regards to PC computers they were an advancement in technology, just because something is new doesn't mean its an advancement.

Conversely, just because something is established technology doesn't make it better technology.

The time this really hit me was some time in 1979 -- I worked in the IBM Palo Alto System center. Some people in our center were bringing to market (developing a market support infrastructure) for a semi-dumb color terminal (a follow-on to the 3270). They asked me to bring in my Apple ][ so they could test the terminal... here was a a terminal that rented for almost as much, per month, as the Apple ][ computer cost to purchase. BTW, one IBM division had developed this wonderful portable dot-matrix printer... it only weighed 60 lbs.

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If technology doesn't make things easier then its not technology. You don't make something to make what you are already doing harder. Lets use Blu ray as an example. When Avatar came out on dvd about half of the Blu ray players couldn't play the disk. So for those people that had to disconnect their player, plug it into their router and download a firmware upgrade, I doubt they thought Blu ray was an advancement in technology.

The iPad lacks a file system, multi-tasking, Flash support, its not easy to hold, slippery. So to wait an extra 3 seconds for my system to come out of sleep mode doesn't sound like a bad trade off.

The iPad has a File System, multi-tasking-- just not what you want! No Flash is a good thing, IMO, and, apparently, for lots of others (except techies and Flash developers). We have 2 iPads-- soon to be 3. For each I bought the Apple Case. It is a suede-like (pseudo-suede) material that is non-slippery. It protects the iPad, acts as an easel and makes it very easy to carry around in one hand. I do it all the time. Do you have a case/bag for your laptop... I do for mine, to protect it and to make it easier to carry. The iPad is much easier, though. You can easily walk around with the iPad in one hand while typing/touching with the other. Try that with a lap top... or using a laptop in bed!

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What has happened is the most users have become so dumb down that as long as they get get on facebook or go to cnn.com all their needs are met. The iPad is great for teens that only do social networks, listen to music or seniors. If you have even mid level needs the iPad does nothing for you.

That's your opinion. I program the iPhone and iPad, as well as use expensive image and Video editing software costing around $5,000 total.

There are some touch sketching and drawing apps on the iPad that make it easy to do things that cannot be done easily (or at all) on another platform.

Do you realize that an iPad can act as an additional screen to a desktop or laptop? So a Power User of, say, Photoshop can have all his tools on the iPad display, freeing up his other displays for the image being worked upon.

Not only that, the iPad provides touch input to the desktop or laptop. The Desktop apps aren't ready for multi-touch, yet... but I suspect they will be soon!


I don't consider myself to be dumbed-down. The iPad is great for me because it makes it much easier to do some of the things I need to do. Just as the iMacs make it easier to do the heavy lifting.

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Try and get a keynote off your iPad onto your Macbook, it doesn't make the process easier.

You have me there! I expect that the iWork apps (and file exchange/synching) will get a lot more robust within the year, After all, these are release 1.0 and are less than 2 months old. I think they are meant as place holders and to encourage developers (MS?) to write productivity apps for the iPad. Additionally, the iPad OS is a special OS version that was frozen so that the hardware and software teams were not chasing a moving target.

As the year unfolds, the iPad will be updated the mainstream OS. I suspect that Apple will have some (yet unseen) features in the iPads, iWork iPad, the Cloud/MobileMe, Mac OS X, iWork Mac OS X and iTunes that will mitigate the deficiencies.

Apple learned with MobileMe-- don't update everything at the same time.

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As always on this site most of the people don't even own or have access to the product so they are talking out their ass. They get pissed at me and defend Apple out of blind loyalty.

Maybe you have an iPad, if you do great then you can debate this with me, but for all the sheep that don't even use the product, just don't even bother posting because you have no clue what you are talking about.

I do, and I will!

I suspect that most people who post here that are pro-iPad have at least tried it!
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Its like Windows bashers that haven't used Windows in a decade.

The iPad is fine. Let me repeat that, the iPad as fine as long as you call a spade a spade. Its nothing more then a big iPod Touch. If you want an iPod Touch with a bigger screen and some extra Apps then its perfect. However lets not call it a computer replacement because it simply isn't.

The part of me that is set in my way is I only use things that improve upon what I am already using.

The fact that you call it a "big iPod touch" tells me that you've never really tried it, but have a pre-judged opinion.

Mmm... Is a desktop computer a Mainframe Computer replacement? A laptop? A netback? A smart phone? an iPod Touch? an iPad... For some people and some uses-- the answer to all of these is yes!

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post #90 of 92
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At least I post real life opinions based on using a product unlike most here that simply post nonsense about something they have never used. Or make comments like this with nothing behind them. The only thing empty is the space between your ears.

Maybe just once why don't you put some facts behind our comments instead of just commenting about how you dislike my comments. You know actually form an opininon for yourself.

No, you post your own baloney, unsupported by majority opinion, then attempt to pass it off as something everyone else is thinking. Which makes you not just wrong, but consistently wrong.
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God I thought you were finally gone. By the way do you even own an iPad to be commenting on this subject. Or are you giving bullshit advice again without using the product.

You don't need to own an iPad to know it's a game-changer.
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Over 2 million in 2 months. Yeah, I'd say that the iPad has changed the game.
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