Originally Posted by NoahJ People that are anti-Israel will remain so after this.
More people should be anti-Israel.
The argument is really not whether anyone actually is but whether they actually should be. Many States need opposing. I contend Israel is one of them.
What I don't understand is why their actions - which would be enough to cause opposition were they committed by anyone else - are defended by some. Or actually I do understand it in many cases.
It is similarly easy to see which side you fall on here.
Yep. Proud of it too. Proud to oppose all such brutal regimes: Israel, Zimbabwe, China, Saudi...no probs there.
Are all the facts out? I don't think so, it will be at least a couple weeks before they get the stories straight.
Again...that's exactly the point - Israel is in control of the facts so no...the facts are not out. My point exactly.
From what I can tell, a flotilla of ships told Israel, we are going to run your blockade.
Yes. very good thing. Good there are humanitarians not prepared to sit back and watch Israel starving a whole people into non-existence.
Israel told them, well in advance and with no uncertain terms. No you will not.
Of course. What else would they do? Say "oops sorry we've been very naughty"? If they were capable of that they would not commit the crimes in the first place and the flotilla would not be necessary.
They chose to run it anyway.
Knowing that brutal death might await them and the world would look away. Heroes.
Israel stopped the ships before they entered Israeli waters in order to turn them around, and possibly to search for supplies other than humanitarian aid.
Right. Commandos abseiling in at 4am tooled up and screaming and firing. Right.
Also out of their own waters it is a crime.
The aid workers and volunteers, who knew that they would be boarded by Israeli troops, attacked the troops before they had even landed on the ships and had a chance to do what they had intended to do, thereby setting the tone for the remainder of the conflict.
Right. A load of peaceniks and - what do you call them? Surrender-monkeys? Decide to take on the IDF with some planks of wood. Right.
These are the facts that are known right now though video evidence.
Not so. These are the facts as known solely from Israeli sources.
Until more facts are known this is what there is to comment on. When you have more facts, present them. Anything else is your bias showing.
We have been commenting on them. And I have confessed my bias...which is how I also recognize yours btw....