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When AT&T customers in the U.S. finally have access to tethering on their iPhone, it won't work with Apple's iPad due to software limitations, not AT&T policy.

Reports surfaced online Thursday that tethering between the iPhone and iPad would not be possible. AppleInsider contacted AT&T, and was told that the matter is a question for Apple, as the iPad apparently does not allow tethering via USB or Bluetooth.

"This is not a policy issue," an AT&T spokesman told AppleInsider, deferring to Apple for further information on the subject.

Apple's own documentation on tethering for the iPhone 3GS with iPhone OS 3.0 and up states that it is only possible through a USB cable or Bluetooth. But prior to the release of iPhone OS 4, tethering is not yet available on the AT&T network in the U.S.

The news confirms what Apple Chief Executive Steve Jobs allegedly said via e-mail in March. A user asked Jobs if the iPad would be able to tether with the Wi-Fi iPad, to which the company co-founder succinctly replied, "No."

While the reports seem to confirm that 3G tethering via Bluetooth is not available on the iPad, it is possible that Apple could add the feature to the iPad via a future software update. It's also possible that an iPhone software update could allow tethering over Wi-Fi, as some other smartphones currently do.

AT&T announced on Wednesday that it would allow tethering on the iPhone when OS 4 arrives. Users must pay $25 per month for the high-end plan with 2GB of data per month, plus an additional $20 to allow tethering. The feature allows customers to share their mobile 3G Internet connectivity with another device, such as a laptop.
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That's a lie been doing it since day ipad came out
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Google recently showed an Android phone acting as a mobile WiFi base station for an iPad. It is dumb that you will be able to do this with an Android phone but not an iPhone. Come on Apple.
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That's a lie been doing it since day ipad came out

They don't mean jailbreaks. I expect AT&T doesn't care as long as you pay them $45 a month for 2GB limit.
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Google recently showed an Android phone acting as a mobile WiFi base station for an iPad. It is dumb that you will be able to do this with an Android phone but not an iPhone. Come on Apple.

This is a different form of tethering. It would be cool though. What I'd really like to see is GPS information forwarded by wifi. The Cradlepoint access point devices will do it, but the google maps app doesn't know how to interpret it.
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I don't get why people are refuting the truth of the article by claiming that it works over wifi. The article states that tethering will not be possible via bluetooth or USB.
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Google recently showed an Android phone acting as a mobile WiFi base station for an iPad. It is dumb that you will be able to do this with an Android phone but not an iPhone. Come on Apple.

I totally agree. Apple should remove that restriction.
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out of 5 months 3 of them have been over 3gb other 2 below 2gb it's crazy how they want to hustle everyone and I have a feeling that when this new iphone is annouced it will need a change in plan in order to use the feature which my guess will be ichat and all of us grandfathered plans will be forced to switch plans or go with out feature quote me on this
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The whole tethering debacle with AT&T is a clusterf**k now, and I don't know how ANYONE can be happy with it.

1) AT&T gives you 2GB to work with for $25 [OK, fine]
2) AT&T charges you an extra $20 a month for "official" tethering [OK, fine]
3) However, even though you are paying extra for tethering and AT&T even says that those who tether use more data, they still cap you at the same 2GB as those who don't tether [*&^$ YOU AT&T!]
post #10 of 89
SJ also said the iPad will have unlimited plan for $30/month. Things can change.. if they want to change them.
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Can you pay to tether if you keep your old unlimited data contract, or do you have to give that up?
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The whole tethering debacle with AT&T is a clusterf**k now, and I don't know how ANYONE can be happy with it.

1) AT&T gives you 2GB to work with for $25 [OK, fine]
2) AT&T charges you an extra $20 a month for "official" tethering [OK, fine]
3) However, even though you are paying extra for tethering and AT&T even says that those who tether use more data, they still cap you at the same 2GB as those who don't tether [*&^$ YOU AT&T!]

yes bad pr move on their part to let you tether, but give you no minutes to tether. So it's not a data service your paying for ... it's a convenience. A very expensive convenience.
post #13 of 89
Just one more thing on the list of what you can't do within the ipad's walled garden. A shame for a revolutionary device that will change computing forever. If that is indeed what the ipad is.

I'll stick with a real Mac and an air card from Verizon.
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Can you pay to tether if you keep your old unlimited data contract, or do you have to give that up?

AFAIK, you have to "downgrade" to DataPro to enable tethering. And once you've downgraded to DataPro, there's no way to reinstate the grandfathered "unlimited" plan.
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I probably never will. It would cut into the 3G sales. Of course MYFI on my jailbroken iPhone works perfect so Stevie can continue to deny and I will continue to do.
post #16 of 89
We've have iPhone tethering in Canada. It is terrific with my MacBook. I can make Skype to landline calls with the tethered MacBook over the iPhone.

With the iPad: No tethering and no Skype to landline calls using the iPad 3G.

All intentionally crippled. By whom? Hard to say.
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Can you pay to tether if you keep your old unlimited data contract, or do you have to give that up?

This is the genius of the new att plan, you can have the grandfathered unlimited plan without tethering. If you want to tether, you lose your old unlimited plan and must go with the 2gb plan + tether.

Either way you look at this plan, you are screwed....and att will be smiling as they do it.
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I don't get why people are refuting the truth of the article by claiming that it works over wifi. The article states that tethering will not be possible via bluetooth or USB.

Sadly, this confusion is just going to get worse and worse. Fifty bucks says that by the time this thread is done, half the posts will be about wifi hotspotting and not bluetooth/USB tethering. (two very different things from a technological standpoint)

the iPad has no problem getting onto mobile wifi-hotspots, regardless of the source (cell phone, overdrive, mifi, miwi, whatever). this article is not about that.

I blame the Canadians.

(why? because I can)
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Just one more thing on the list of what you can't do within the ipad's walled garden. A shame for a revolutionary device that will change computing forever. If that is indeed what the ipad is.

I'll stick with a real Mac and an air card from Verizon.

Two words: first generation.

Why do some Mac lovers employ the language of trolls when they don't get everything they want right out of the gate? A little patience, please.
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This is the genius of the new att plan, you can have the grandfathered unlimited plan without tethering. If you want to tether, you lose your old unlimited plan and must go with the 2gb plan + tether.

Either way you look at this plan, you are screwed....and att will be smiling as they do it.

The vast vast vast majority of iPhone users are not interested in tethering. I have no problem seeing the few data hogs who want to tether pay much more for that service.
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Apple devices are characterized more by what they have left out as what they do put in. They cost more, and do a bit less--but they do everything exceedingly well, and most importantly, easily. This makes Apple devices the best choice "for the rest of us."

Competing platforms "geekify" their devices--loading them up with every option and possibility for tweaking in order make it appear that you are getting more bang for your buck. The trade off is that you also get a half baked OS that is filled with rat holes that non-geeks can easily fall in to. This means that grandma and brother-in-law are constantly calling you to ask how to solve their problems with these devices.

Simple elegance versus complex options. It's up to you.
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While the reports seem to confirm that 3G tethering via Bluetooth is not available on the iPad, it is possible that Apple could add the feature to the iPad via a future software update. It's also possible that an iPhone software update could allow tethering over Wi-Fi, as some other smartphones currently do.

Why would you tether if you have Wi-Fi?
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Originally Posted by Mazda 3s View Post

The whole tethering debacle with AT&T is a clusterf**k now, and I don't know how ANYONE can be happy with it.

1) AT&T gives you 2GB to work with for $25 [OK, fine]
2) AT&T charges you an extra $20 a month for "official" tethering [OK, fine]
3) However, even though you are paying extra for tethering and AT&T even says that those who tether use more data, they still cap you at the same 2GB as those who don't tether [*&^$ YOU AT&T!]

I checked my usage and I'm at about 500 Mb a month and I consider myself a power user. But I don't download movies or stream to the iPhone, so maybe I'm not as much of a bandwidth hog.

If people who use it that much are being capped, I say more power to AT&T. It'll free up bandwidth and make the network work that much smoother. If you say, fuck AT&T and go to Verizon of wherever, right on. The network will unclog even more.
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Just wondering, when iPhone Videochat is introduced by Steve Jobs, If this feature is a datahog to use, and AT&T skimpy 2GB is almost out, will a "caller" be able to call "Collect" to the other party who might have more GB left on their plan then you?

Also, I bet AT&T will yank your MB's for accepting an videochat phone call just as much as they will for placing one!

Hope iPhone OS 4 will have the option to tell the caller you are not accepting videocalls, go to regular call mode and just talk. That way at least you are just using minutes.

Speaking of minutes, with this new plan does AT&T still offer rollover?

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Why would you tether if you have Wi-Fi?

What they meant was connecting to a phone that is serving as a hotspot. The newer android phones can do that.
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Why would apple let you do this when they have a 3G version at a higher price point?

This is what pushed me to jailbreak my iPhone and use MyWi - works perfectly, my iPhone and iPad are best friends.
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Two words: first generation.

Why do some Mac lovers employ the language of trolls when they don't get everything they want right out of the gate? A little patience, please.

First argumentative post and it has to be a reply to me. I thought for once someone might agree.

Yes, it is part of Apple's product strategy to limit a first gen product. Then they come out with a better one for less money. That's why I started visiting this site. To try to know when it's safe to "pull the trigger" on something new.

Do you mean to suggest Apple is delibertly withholding tethering on the ipad so I'll buy the next one that will have it?
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I don't know why this story is going around again. We already knew this.
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I ordered my iPad the day before the data plan changes were announced, a week before it goes into effect, and only a month after it began. Because of slow delivery, no fault of my own, and the method for signing up for an unlimited plan for $29.99 - i won't have the option for unlimited - despite that being a very strong selling point for the iPad...

And Apple KNEW they were advertising those rates to thousands of new buyers that would never get the option for unlimited.

As such, I have broke my iPhone 3GS out of jail and installed MyWi. It works great.

They want to charge $20 for tethering without adding more data? Why? It's merely technical on out part. Essentially, at&t wants to charge more money per month for us to view our content on a larger screen. WHAT A JOKE!

I will NOT be giving up unlimited on the iPhone. And I will NOT be upgrading the phone yet. Wait and see.

UPDATE: I was just alerted to that if you order your iPad from the apple online store through June 6 you can still get the unlimited plan when your iPad arrives after June 7. : ) I'll pay. It's fair to me.
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The vast vast vast majority of iPhone users are not interested in tethering. I have no problem seeing the few data hogs who want to tether pay much more for that service.

I agree. For me who now travels for fun rather than for work, my laptop is now gathering dust. I am getting along pretty well on the road with my iPhone's features. But when I get my iPad, the MacBook may end up on Craig's List.

Therefore, tethering is a non-issue for me. I am going to opt for the iPad 3G so that no matter where I go I have a fair shot at connectivity without having to find a McDonald's or Starbucks. Apple has a product/option for most needs. Buy the one you need, don't complain about the ones you don't.
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What they meant was connecting to a phone that is serving as a hotspot. The newer android phones can do that.

Right, but they were discussing iPad 3G. Why worry about tethering that to a 3G phone? It's got it's own. Maybe I'm missing something? Really, not being sarcastic or bitchy, just want to know.
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post #32 of 89
i don't want to tether my iphone to my ipad. i want my iphone to broadcast like a hotspot. screw cables... that's for the weak.
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First argumentative post and it has to be a reply to me. I thought for once someone might agree.

Yes, it is part of Apple's product strategy to limit a first gen product. Then they come out with a better one for less money. That's why I started visiting this site. To try to know when it's safe to "pull the trigger" on something new.

Do you mean to suggest Apple is delibertly withholding tethering on the ipad so I'll buy the next one that will have it?

Not exactly, because the iPad comes in two flavors. I don't see why you would need to tether if you got the 3G model.

Okay, I was argumentative. But you pulled my chain when you used expressions like "walled garden" and such. I was just genuinely perplexed when someone like you, a Mac guy, would use the same language employed by the haters who visit the site. That's all. Let's be friends.
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Fifty bucks says that by the time this thread is done, half the posts will be about wifi hotspotting and not bluetooth/USB tethering. (two very different things from a technological standpoint)

Ignoring differences like max transfer rates and power consumption, I don't really care if it is WiFi hotspotting or Bluetooth tethering. I always have my iPhone with me. It would be nice to use that (either via BlueTooth or WiFi) so I can access the internet whilst out and about with a regular WiFi only iPad instead of having to pay more to get a 3G iPad and another data plan.
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Right, but they were discussing iPad 3G. Why worry about tethering that to a 3G phone? It's got it's own. Maybe I'm missing something? Really, not being sarcastic or bitchy, just want to know.

Yeah, I don't understand the big deal, either. The whole point of the 3G iPad was to have connectivity almost anywhere with the cheap pre-paid plans, not to tether them to an iPhone. Since I got the iPad 3G, I'm not using the iPhone for internet anyways, so the reduction in iPhone data plans is a good deal. Tethering makes no sense to me.
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I checked my usage and I'm at about 500 Mb a month and I consider myself a power user. But I don't download movies or stream to the iPhone, so maybe I'm not as much of a bandwidth hog.

If people who use it that much are being capped, I say more power to AT&T. It'll free up bandwidth and make the network work that much smoother. If you say, fuck AT&T and go to Verizon of wherever, right on. The network will unclog even more.

*Sigh* Streaming videos and music is being a hog? It amazes me that people don't know who the data hogs are actually are. It's not the people who are just using over 2GB/month. It is the person who jailbreaks their iPhone, tethers it to a laptop and then proceeds to watch 720p/1080p content on their laptop. They are the people who are using 30GB+/month. If you want to see them go over to Howard forums.

I guess it's not ok now that you can stream Pandora over 3G since AT&T said so and they carry the iPhone. Just wait and see what happens to your bandwidth usage once 4.0 is introduced and there is multitasking.

To all others I suggest you follow another someone ele's post, jailbreak and then use MyWi to connect to the iPad.
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I checked my usage and I'm at about 500 Mb a month and I consider myself a power user. But I don't download movies or stream to the iPhone, so maybe I'm not as much of a bandwidth hog.

If people who use it that much are being capped, I say more power to AT&T. It'll free up bandwidth and make the network work that much smoother. If you say, fuck AT&T and go to Verizon of wherever, right on. The network will unclog even more.

You're missing the point. AT&T is saying that you will use more data by enabling tethering -- they even come right out and say it:

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You're going to use more data so the price is based on the value that will be delivered.

So it doesn't make sense to give you a $20 feature that ENCOURAGES you to use more data than the regular smartphone user, then cap you at the same 2GB as everyone else. It's ridiculous.

THAT is my issue with this whole thing. It's the principle of the matter. Me personally, I don't even come close to touching 2GB:

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AT&T lies, and apparently has Apple by the balls!
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I already tether my iPhone with my iPad. Just jailbreak it and use MyWi. http://www.macdaddynews.com/?p=2784
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Right, but they were discussing iPad 3G. Why worry about tethering that to a 3G phone? It's got it's own. Maybe I'm missing something? Really, not being sarcastic or bitchy, just want to know.

Are they discussing the iPad 3G? I thought they were discussing tethering any iPad (including Wifi only versions of the iPad) to an iPhone so we can access the internet using iPhone's 3G connection.
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