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post #1 of 49
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Ok, here goes. Well, the other day I had a really strange occurance. What happened was I was trying to sign into AIM and I kept getting a message that I had been been "blocked". For sure I thought maybe this was a problem with Fire, but then listen to what happens next. I finally get on, using a different name, and am sent convo from my screen name being sent to my girlfriend. Now I can also note that my girlfriend sent me an email showing someone sending her messages on my name, when I wasn't on. This was maybe a week or so ago. Now go to today. Right now I can't sign on, and am getting the same blocked message. It gets worse......I've tried multiple names and it connects me then a minute later disconnects from AIM. This happened with my main screen name earlier too.

Last night, I went to send an email through my Yahoo account. I type in my password, then it says my password or ID is incorrect. Ok, I'll try again. Same thing. I know I typed both in correctly and did this several times. Then, I go to password lookup and type in my info. Hit submit and get my new password. What happens? You must type in a country. I did. I entered the country and every other thing. Then I try it today........you must enter your birthdate and area code.......I did both correctly.

When I have gone in chat I've experienced people on different names harassing me about me and my girlfriend and I have also received word of them chatting on my name, saing stuff about me, my girlfriend, and to my friends in there.

Now I was talking to her last night and I also mentioned how over the past we have been getting phone calls every once in a while. These have been somebody not saying anything and staying on the line. I have done things like kept saying hello......and have even stayed on not saying anything. They have not hung up. Then once I said "Im f*cking calling the police right now" screaming it in the earpiece and then click they hung up.

After I explained all this to my girlfriend, she says she gets the same exact thing, and has been for a while like we have been. Also I should note that I have hit *69 several times and its said the number is unknown.

I really need help and need to know what to do, because this is getting really serious. Should I call the police? Notify AOL and Yahoo some way?

I don't know who would be against me and Stef so much, and who would even take the trouble to do all this.
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post #2 of 49
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I also want my baby to be safe..
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post #3 of 49
If you call the phone company and explain what's going on they will have to give you the numbers of the people calling. The telephone company knows all. And you need to call the police too. Give that info to the police.
post #4 of 49
The AIM part makes it seem as if it's other kids ****ing with you.

Be safe, call the cops. Get a new screen name. etc.
post #5 of 49
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But if I call the police (or the phone company), I will have to tell my parents what is going on. they dont know about her nor do they need to. Seriously...
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post #6 of 49
Sounds like somebody you know got your password. Did you use the same password for both your AIM and yahoo accounts??
post #7 of 49
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Yeah but I have no one that would even want to f*ck with me. And all the other stuff tied in...it's not just kids f*cking with me..
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post #8 of 49
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No. And I change the Yahoo one very frequently....we're talking every few days (so I could avoid this in the past).
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post #9 of 49
I would contact Yahoo and AOL. They may be able to give you some info about where your screen name is being signed in from (does that make sense?) I don't know how old you are, but if you have any credit cards, I would do some checking on those too. If they can get the passwords they have, they may also know passwords for amazon, and places like that, and may be buying stuff.

In general, if I'm being harassed, I would call the police. They are public servents, and you are paying their salaries. They may as well do some work for you.

best of luck.

another thought: have you signed in on a public computer? or any other computer other than your own? and if it's only your own, would anyone else be able to sign on as you? a sibling maybe? that wouldn't explain the phone calls, but it's a thought.

[ 03-28-2002: Message edited by: Stroszek ]</p>
post #10 of 49
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No I only sign on at home. Also Im 18 so I dont have a credit card or anything yet. The location might help. How would I contact them?
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post #11 of 49
just wondering why you don't want your parents to know about your girlfriend? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
post #12 of 49
[quote]Originally posted by TigerWoods99:
<strong>No I only sign on at home. Also Im 18 so I dont have a credit card or anything yet. The location might help. How would I contact them?</strong><hr></blockquote>

FYI, from Yahoo's Terms of Service:

[quote]5. MEMBER ACCOUNT, PASSWORD AND SECURITY

You will receive a password and account designation upon completing the Service's registration process. You are responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of the password and account, and are fully responsible for all activities that occur under your password or account. You agree to (a) immediately notify Yahoo of any unauthorized use of your password or account or any other breach of security, and (b) ensure that you exit from your account at the end of each session. Yahoo cannot and will not be liable for any loss or damage arising from your failure to comply with this Section 5.
<hr></blockquote>

Use this link for info about contacting Yahoo: <a href="http://abuse.yahoo.com/" target="_blank">Yahoo! Customer Care Group</a>
post #13 of 49
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Well, I'll give you a hint. 2 words. The first starts with a. The second starts with an l.
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post #14 of 49
Make sure NO ONE knows your secret answer...mine is what is my old email pass which no one knows...

Make up a random letter pass...

MAKE SURE there are no keystroke loggers/virii/trojan horses/whatever on your comp...clean it with a fine tooth comb.

Check up on the people who use your comp...

And did you use one master pass or whatever before? If so I would be seriously worried...
post #15 of 49
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Yeah, but this is somebody harassing me by chat, phone, and seemingly getting a hold on all the services I use. MY gf doesnt use MSN either.
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post #16 of 49
I don't know much about AOL, but I would probably use this link to report it:
<a href="http://www.aol.com/info/feedback.html" target="_blank">AOL Feedback</a> if that's not the correct place to report it, they could probably point you in the right direction.
post #17 of 49
[quote]Originally posted by TigerWoods99:
<strong>Well, I'll give you a hint. 2 words. The first starts with a. The second starts with an l.</strong><hr></blockquote>


<img src="confused.gif" border="0">
post #18 of 49
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Yep. My secret answer was hard. I also changed it to make it a better question. Not only that, but I even changed the country and ZIP to make it different from where I live (I used my grandmother's country and zip). I also constantly switched the Yahoo one. My AIM one would be pretty hard to guess even if you know me. I dont need to worry about other people who have used this computer. My mom isnt going to do this (only other person whos used this other than me).

About the stuff on my computer I actually think there could be something, I didnt think of that leading to this before. How would they know? I have noticed problems that I should not be experiencing with a new top of the line G4....like the fact that the computer wont remember its settings, it always asks for an application to open stuff (like themes I downloaded or shareware programs) when they dont even have one to open with, etc etc.

I got on for about 2 seconds on AIM and noticed my girl's name wasnt on and she would be on right now I think. I'm a bit worried.
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post #19 of 49
[quote]Originally posted by TigerWoods99:
<strong>Well, I'll give you a hint. 2 words. The first starts with a. The second starts with an l.</strong><hr></blockquote>

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post #20 of 49
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No. Guess again. Think difference after the first, and different for the second.
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post #21 of 49
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It's 2 different words.
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post #22 of 49
Annie Lennox? You're dating Annie Lennox?
Wow!
Yeah, I think your parents wouldn't like that one bit.
post #23 of 49
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Hmm...who's Annie Lennox?

But seriously.
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post #24 of 49
[quote]Originally posted by TigerWoods99:
<strong>Now I can also note that my girlfriend sent me an email showing someone sending her messages on my name, when I wasn't on.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Another thing you can try to do is if your girlfriend is getting messages from your screen name when it isn't you, you can get the IP Address from that person by using a little social engineering and netsat. I do not know if there is a netstat tool for OS 9.

First off, you need to establish a direct connection with your screen name by initiating either a file transfer, an IM image, or use the Talk feature. All of these will create a direct connection to the user. Once you have done this do the following

PC:

1.Click on Start
2.Choose Run
3.Type command
4.Click OK

This will open a MS-DOS Prompt. Then type in the following command:

netstat n

For OS X launch the Terminal and type in the same command as above.

This will show all of the active connections to your computer and the corresponding IP address for each connection. You might want to do this before establishing a direct connection and either printing or saving the results and then once you do establish a direct connection, run netstat again (keep your terminal or dos prompt open and ready) and compare the two outputs to see the new IP address. You then will at least have an IP address of the perpetrator(s). (Unless they have spoofed it)

I would also get a Caller ID box and you can set up your phone to not accept incoming calls if the number is unknown (you can dial *67 to block the sending of your caller ID information or you can actually pay the phone company to block it all together). They would then have to unblock their caller ID (dial *82) before your phone would actually ring, youd then have their telephone number. Your phone company should be able to set this up for you.

Good luck with all of this, and I hope I helped some.
post #25 of 49
Someone somehow got your info and is ****ing with you. That's all.
post #26 of 49
[quote]Originally posted by TigerWoods99:
<strong>Hmm...who's Annie Lennox?

But seriously. </strong><hr></blockquote>

But seriously? You are playing charades and word games and you want us to be serious? Just come out with it boy, this is serious. And you haven't called the cops yet...why?
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post #27 of 49
Hmmm, you're SO stressed out, yet you have time to toy with us about initials...

Interesting. Is this some sort of weird coping mechanism?

<img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
post #28 of 49
Tiger:


Here's what I would do.

First, calm down. Nobody's out to get you. It's 99.9% definitely kids that somehow got your password ****ing around with you.

1. Tell your folks. Don't mention the girlfriend bit; just say it's been happening to a friend of yours as well, and it's a bit scary.

They will decide whether or not to call the police.


2. RE: your DP G4.


Burn a backup of anything crucial, and format the HD.

Reinstall 9.2 and then X. Run Software update. See if problems persist. If they do, contact Apple and tell them what's up. They won't be too keen on troubleshooting your machine if it's an error that you caused in trying to install a theme or something dumb like that.


I have *never* seen OS X throw up an 'Open with which application?' dialog box. Never. Unless you're in 9....

Frankly, if you want our help, you need to calm the hell down and give us the full story. Step by step, chronologically. If you want to talk to me personally, feel free to drop me an email or get me on AIM: jrw227.
post #29 of 49
Ok. I just reread this, and have a bit more advice to offer.

1. Calm down. The combination of all the things makes it seem even more like it's people you know trying to **** with you. Especially the phone stuff- people off the internet don't know your home phone number, unless you've been giving it out.

When a harassing call happens, just say hello once or twice, and if nobody says anything hang up. Period.

Then, you can hit *57 and this will activate call-trace at the phone company. This logs that as an annoying call on the phone company's logs. If a particular number calls and gets *57'ed 5 times by you, the police are alerted by the phone company. Automatically. Doesn't involve the girlfriend or anything.

2. AIM: log onto your normal AIM screen name and change your password to something totally random.

This should prevent anyone who has your current password from being able to sign on your account from here on out.

3. Tell your girlfriend to not worry, but to do the same thing regarding the harassing phone calls.

4. Yahoo. Get a new Yahoo screen name.

The reason you are being 'blocked' on either service is because you are either already signed on at a different location- i.e. someone else is using your name, or because you've signed on and off too rapidly in a short period of time.

5. If you're going into public chat rooms, lay off for a while.

6. I doubt that, if you're using OS X, there are any virii or trojans on your computer. That being said, start a new topic in Genius Bar about all the problems that you're having and I'm sure we can help... make a nice itemized list of the symptoms... we're smart folks who want to help.

Frankly, with multiple people telling you that people are doing stuff to you and your girlfriend, and using your screen name, etc. it would seem as if it's a bunch of kids that have singled you out for whatever reason. It's not a question of why or feeling bad about this; it's a case of get even. Give it to the police. Kids are malicious sometimes, and the little ****ers deserve to be prosecuted under the full extent of the law, if they are harassing you as they say. Some police departments (especially state police) have specialized teams that work on cyber-crime. Identity theft- if this continues after changing passwords- and harassment on the Internet are FELONIES. These people, if they continue, run a big risk.

Frankly, I say, you've got a very big, very pointy stick in your hand in the shape of the police. If this continues, poke the ****ers in the eye with that stick. They deserve it.
post #30 of 49
[quote]Originally posted by Jonathan:
<strong>The reason you are being 'blocked' on either service is because you are either already signed on at a different location- i.e. someone else is using your name, or because you've signed on and off too rapidly in a short period of time.</strong><hr></blockquote>I'm not sure about Yahoo, but I know that with AIM, if you try to connect while already connected with another client, the second one kicks off the first, allowing you to connect. You are corect, though, about connecting too frequently. If you hold off for 15-30 minutes, it should let you back on. [quote]<strong>Frankly, I say, you've got a very big, very pointy stick in your hand in the shape of the police. If this continues, poke the ****ers in the eye with that stick. They deserve it.</strong><hr></blockquote>Agreed. Take action. Jonathan is spot-on with his suggestions, especially about the call trace.

[snip] oops... didn't see someone already posted this info.

[ 03-29-2002: Message edited by: starfleetX ]</p>
post #31 of 49
[quote]Originally posted by TigerWoods99:
<strong>It's 2 different words.</strong><hr></blockquote>is she an alaskan lawyer? :confused:

Bodhi's got a point about this name-game. If this is so serious, just out with it already. We're just trying to help.

[ 03-29-2002: Message edited by: starfleetX ]</p>
post #32 of 49
as for the "Open with application" dialog, I heard that there is a hacker-app that sends out false dialogs. not sure how to fix it though, except for totally erasing the HD, and also i think it stores a file in the system folder so look through that with a fine tooth comb(not sure if the app has been "arrested" yet)
post #33 of 49
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Ok:

A=Age

L=Location


This is not just somebody f*cking with me, definitely. The point about it has to be someone who knows me just f*cking me for them to have my phone number is moot. If this person can successfully hack both my Yahoo! & AIM accounts which do not have passwords that are even remotely similar tells me that somehow they know how to do some stuff, and its scary.

I actually never go in chat anymore. I used to a long time ago. The harassment came 2 years ago when we first started going out and I would get people (on different & what seemed like randomly made up names) giving me sh*t about us, basically bothering me. I actually have several Yahoo IDs and they have come at me on those too. How would they even know my other names?

You are right about the blocked thing on AIM. When this occured a few nights ago I then got back on with another name I made. My gf sent me convo from someone who was using my name right when this was happening to me.

I am about to check my email again, but it's looking like I have virtually no way of getting a hold of my account now. Yahoo has a password lookup and when I do that it gives me errors. Thats the only thing I can do to get my password back.

No I haven't called the cops yet, but I do plan on finding this bastard. Could it be somebody who knows her or did? Somebody so jealous that Im with her now? that doesnt seem very likely.

As far as my computer, yes Im tired of this. I didnt do anything "dumb" to make it this way. The only thing I've done was download a few programs and tried to install them. This is no reason for the computer to never remember its settins now. Everytime it is booted up the resolution is changed, and the desktop background picture I put on is gone. I then have to restart it. And yes, it always asks me for an application to open something.
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post #34 of 49
Use a computer with internet access that is not your own and not on your connection to the internet. Not your girlfriend's either. Change any passwords that you still have and aren't giving you any troubble. try not to access them from your machine without 128 or at least 64 bit incription. and be very careful with the info that you give out and who you give it to.
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post #35 of 49
just thought of something about the phone calls: does your school(if your that age) have a database of phone numbers that students can access. It might be someone jealous of you b/c he had been your girlfriends old boyfriend, so he is harassing you
post #36 of 49
Just Cancel your accounts for about 3months and reactivate them. That should clear any problems.
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post #37 of 49
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Not it doesnt and ummmm my girlfriend doesnt go to my school.
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post #38 of 49
Ok, I once had to change my email and AIM account becuase of this guy who was jealous of me because I was friends (that's it just friends) with this girl that he had a long distance elationship with... but it was nothing to this magnitude. He never got into my email account and I simply had to shut it down because he would go around and sign me up for all sorts of spam and newsletters. As far as AIM is concerned, I don't know how he got into it, but I simply changed my name and that setteled that (lost my buddy list though) and so I really can't help but I do simpathize. Personally, I would also go to the police and also, this person seems to know everything that you do on your computer, perhaps s/he's a watcher. I would try to change your IP if possible through your provider. That might help... and good luck to you!
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post #39 of 49
I would think, depending on how much you value your safety and the people you care about, get more people involved. Even if this is not something as serious as it could be, you will at least feel safe. Parents or Cops. I understand that you do not want them involved at this stage, but I would be freaked out. This seems like a prank, but, someone should not make you do something to the extent of being scared this much.

Call the cops or parents, ask either of them for help. Discuss relationshipal problems later
post #40 of 49
dump her.
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