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Before Apple Chief Executive Steve Jobs takes the stage today in San Francisco, Calif., at the Worldwide Developers Conference, readers can watch his lengthy interview from last week's D8 conference in its entirety.

The conversation lead by Walt Mossberg and Kara Swisher of The Wall Street Journal took place a week ago, and spanned more than an hour and a half. Jobs spoke candidly on the lost prototype iPhone obtained by Gizmodo, on his company's rejection of Adobe Flash from the iPhone OS, and the controversy over a number of suicides at manufacturing partner Foxconn's facility in Shenzhen, China.

A great deal of the conversation focused on Apple's newly released iPad, which Jobs said signals the start of an "uncomfortable" transition to the post-PC era. The chief executive said he believes the transition away from the traditional PC as we know it is inevitable, but it's a question of how long that change will take.

"The transformation of the PC to new form factors like the tablet is going to make some people uneasy because the PC has taken us a long ways," Jobs said. "The PC is brilliant... and we like to talk about the post-PC era, but it's uncomfortable."

Jobs also said that he views the Apple TV as a hobby because there isn't a viable market for set top boxes, he admitted there could be an advantage to a multi-carrier U.S. iPhone, and revealed that Apple made changes to its iPhone software development kit to protect user privacy.

The video can be seen in at the D8 Conference website, or embedded in its entirety below:

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Was looking for this all over the place.
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Hmmm. All I see is a broken link on my iPhone. This video must be a (gasp) flash video.

Guess I'll need a real Mac to watch Steve Jobs talk about Flash.

Sorry. Couldn't resist. I know, flash is bad. Bad Flash!
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Was looking for this all over the place.

I don't know if this is a problem with the site or a bug in iPad's Safari, but after watching about 15 mins of any video on there, it reloads the page and the video starts from the beginning. Obviously you can scrub to the last place, but it's a little annoying.

It doesn't do it on my Mac, so wonder if it's a memory thing. Anyone else had this? It only occurs on long clips, not the 6 minute ones. I was watching the 2005 interview with Jobs and it happened twice.

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Hmmm. All I see is a broken link on my iPhone. This video must be a (gasp) flash video.

Guess I'll need a real Mac to watch Steve Jobs talk about Flash.

Sorry. Couldn't resist. I know, flash is bad. Bad Flash!

No, all the videos work on the iPad and iPhone... aside from the problem I just mentioned.

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post #5 of 35
I wonder if it will be on iTunes. I downloaded the last All Things Digital he attended.
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A great deal of the conversation focused on Apple's newly released iPad, which Jobs said signals the start of an "uncomfortable" transition to the post-PC era. The chief executive said he believes the transition away from the traditional PC as we know it is inevitable, but it's a question of how long that change will take.

"The transformation of the PC to new form factors like the tablet is going to make some people uneasy because the PC has taken us a long ways," Jobs said. "The PC is brilliant... and we like to talk about the post-PC era, but it's uncomfortable."


If Steve is going to forsake the personal computer, computer using people are going to forsake him.

Microsoft and Adobe would be very happy to fill the gap of his niche market share.
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If Steve is going to forsake the personal computer, computer using people are going to forsake him.

Microsoft and Adobe would be very happy to fill the gap of his niche market share.

Forsake is a bit harsh. Apple is going to build out where the market is leading them. If the iPad was an AppleTV type flop they woundn't emphasis it at all.
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Apple won't forsake its desktops and laptops until customers forsake the products and the company no longer makes enough money on them.

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Steve's sex life is apparently "pretty good these days." (27:54)

Then Steve asks: "how's yours?"

Walt's reply: "[mine is] great, thanks for asking."

Kara's: "Don't ask."

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Great interview. It really shows a very personal side of Steve. I thought it was fun to see how he swiveled his chair like a little kid
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Apple won't forsake its desktops and laptops until customers forsake the products and the company no longer makes enough money on them.

Bull, Apple intentionally removed all but one of it's popular MacBook models for a line of iPads.

You don't do that to your product line unless you intend to eliminate them.


Steve is taking a huge risk, he should never have forced the MacBook buying crowd into choosing between a computer dependent/extension iPad and a Windows 7 laptop. That's the educational/early learner market.
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Really enjoyed the insights from Steve Jobs about the origination of the iPad. Would love to hear more of that stuff out of Apple. I can only imagine which products almost made it to market, but never did.
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Bull, Apple intentionally removed all but one of it's MacBook models for a line of iPads.

You don't do that to your product line unless you intend to eliminate them.

Personally I disagree. If your basic user is going to only surf the web and do email and upload pictures to Facebook, you don't need three models of entry level laptops (MacBooks). If you want to do a little more like video editing you get a MacBook Pro starting at 1199.
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Bull, Apple intentionally removed all but one of it's MacBook models for a line of iPads.

You don't do that to your product line unless you intend to eliminate them.

More bull, there has only been a single macbook (non "pro") for over 3 years, more if you discount the "blackbook".
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What a great interview. Let all remaining doubts be put to rest; Steve is back!
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post #16 of 35
I guess WSJ isn't about to stop using Flash for their videos.
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Steve is taking a huge risk, he should never have forced the MacBook buying crowd into choosing between a iPad and a Windows 7 laptop.

I'm apart of the Macbook buying crowd, why did I just buy 2 iPads and a Macbook Pro? Windows 7? lol, hilarious.
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If Steve is going to forsake the personal computer, computer using people are going to forsake him.

2 million + says you're not spot on.
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2 million + says you're not spot on.

I'll take your 2 million plus iPads, and add Mac sales that are still rising after over 2 years of constant increases in sales.
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I'm apart of the Macbook buying crowd, why did I just buy 2 iPads and a Macbook Pro? Windows 7? lol, hilarious.

Someone who has enough money to buy two iPads and a MacBook Pro is certainly not in the MacBook market. lol, stupid.
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David Roth (1:23:15) asked Steve about severe dropped calls on AT&T in Houston. Sad. Steve should just sign Verizon IMHO.

Don MacAskill of Smugmug (1:21:25) asked why iPad is tethered to his PC. Steve didn't really address the issue properly, because IMHO Don was targeting Steve's lucrative Mac-centric business model.
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Someone who has enough money to buy two iPads and a MacBook Pro is certainly not in the MacBook market. lol, stupid.

I get it, Macbooks are for the destitute.
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Finally!!
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If Steve is going to forsake the personal computer, computer using people are going to forsake him.

Microsoft and Adobe would be very happy to fill the gap of his niche market share.

Public corporations ... if they want stock prices (and market cap) to increase ... need to talk about future growth potential. Buying PC's now is like buying a box of staples. Just go over to office max, or whatever and get out your credit card. PC's are no longer a growth industry. They are vital and necessary to business ... but investors care more about future growth opportunities than current success in a PC market. This is why apple is, per usual, brilliant.
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2 million + says you're not spot on.

And 1.5 billion (as of 2008 and growing) says I am, as usual very much so.

http://www.c-i-a.com/pr0509.htm

Apple is a niche computer maker in the world with about 10% market share and just forsake a line of their own computers for a limited device not quite a computer and dependent upon one, with limited storage to boot. No Flash, no Office and only a 1Ghz processor that can only run limited Apps from a controlled store.

Change the world? The end of the does it all PC? NOT! More like a "Jobs Folly" than anything else.

The iPad will have it's rein in the sun and later be marginalized by the world once it's fad wears off. Game changer it is not and never will be.

Doesn't mean Apple won't sell a lot, just it won't be a changer and eliminator of the personal computer like Steve thinks it will be. He's powerful and influential, but not that much so.
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Someone who has enough money to buy two iPads and a MacBook Pro is certainly not in the MacBook market. lol, stupid.

You bring so very little actual discussion to these threads. I can only imagine you at D8:

SpotOn: Steve, why did you systematically kill the entry level Macbook line to build support for the iPads?

Steve Jobs: Ermmmm, you didn't see the iPad keynote announcement did you.

SpotOn: Stop being argumentative and a tool and answer my question: why are you trying to kill Adobe?

Steve Jobs: That wasn't your orginal question, and I've offered some very succinct responses to the the whole issue with Adobe's Flash development and performance. Perhaps you haven't read that yet?

SpotOn: That not what I said, and stop trying to put words in my mouth!

Walt Mossberg (off camera): Ummm, security?

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and just forsake a line of their own computers for a limited device not quite a computer and dependent upon one, with limited storage to boot. No Flash, no Office and only a 1Ghz processor that can only run limited Apps from a controlled

You're attempting to argue your own speculation as fact - and yet, you call me stupid. Nice!
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It's all a Steve Jobs jealous play to sell more Mac's.

He's paying more attention the craPad and not Mac's, it's got MacHeads upset, they go out and preach the Mac and help sell hardware which hasn't been doing as expected since those damm annoying glossy screens came about.

Got it all figured out now. Master manipulator at work again.
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I think it's pretty obvious at this point that there is a large percentage of the market who use their devices only for quick emails, texting, web searching, video watching, etc.

The future for those people is going to be iPad type devices.

For those of us who need more (and I include myself in that category), traditional computers will continue to exist, although with a smaller market, and you have to wonder how much innovation will take place. I don't think Apple is going to stop making computers (you can't run the SDK on an iPad), but I do think they will be a smaller part of Apple's product mix. So I think we're going to see some product line fragmentation in the future. This is how I interpreted Steve's comments.

The other issue is at what point will the iPad (and iPhone for that matter) become a completely stand-alone device not needing a base computer for synching and software updates.

Perhaps an ideal solution is a hybrid machine in which the "iPad" portion is the screen that snaps off to take with you when you don't need the full capability. When the screen is attached, it works off the computer OS. When the screen is not attached, it works off of the iPhone OS. Or something like that.
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And 1.5 billion (as of 2008 and growing) says I am, as usual very much so.

http://www.c-i-a.com/pr0509.htm

Apple is a niche computer maker in the world with about 10% market share and just forsake a line of their own computers for a limited device not quite a computer and dependent upon one, with limited storage to boot. No Flash, no Office and only a 1Ghz processor that can only run limited Apps from a controlled store.

Change the world? The end of the does it all PC? NOT! More like a "Jobs Folly" than anything else.

The iPad will have it's rein in the sun and later be marginalized by the world once it's fad wears off. Game changer it is not and never will be.

Doesn't mean Apple won't sell a lot, just it won't be a changer and eliminator of the personal computer like Steve thinks it will be. He's powerful and influential, but not that much so.

Nice Ballmer imitation.
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I wonder if it will be on iTunes. I downloaded the last All Things Digital he attended.

I hope so, or at least someone rip this cos I can't work out how.
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Good to see him still value-oriented and passionate despite the health scare. Go Steve! I have never been really, really sick so I don't know if it would cause someone to lose their values or care about them even more, or if it's irrelevant to that. I just know he looked well to me.
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And 1.5 billion (as of 2008 and growing) says I am, as usual very much so.

http://www.c-i-a.com/pr0509.htm

Apple is a niche computer maker in the world with about 10% market share and just forsake a line of their own computers for a limited device not quite a computer and dependent upon one, with limited storage to boot. No Flash, no Office and only a 1Ghz processor that can only run limited Apps from a controlled store.

Change the world? The end of the does it all PC? NOT! More like a "Jobs Folly" than anything else.

The iPad will have it's rein in the sun and later be marginalized by the world once it's fad wears off. Game changer it is not and never will be.

Doesn't mean Apple won't sell a lot, just it won't be a changer and eliminator of the personal computer like Steve thinks it will be. He's powerful and influential, but not that much so.

Nice Ballmer imitation.

Agreed


On topic: Very entertaining interview. Wish I could get it in high-res!
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Bull, Apple intentionally removed all but one of it's popular MacBook models for a line of iPads.
You don't do that to your product line unless you intend to eliminate them.

Pardon me, but I think your ignorance is showing.


If you're going to talk about portable internet devices (which you reference in your post #25), Apple currently sells 6 iPad models with price points between 499.00-829.00 and 7 laptop models with price points between 999.00-2299.00.

13 models between 499.00 and 2299.00 ... name any other company doing more ... just one.

So much for elimination! .... Lucky for you an IQ test is not a requirement for internet posting or you would have to find something else to waste your time on.
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post #35 of 35
Steve Jobs just talks common sense, simple as.
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