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Your points are laughably predictable and have already been countered. They are outdated, outmoded, banal falsehoods spread by the atheistic. Thanks for playing.

Congratulations on your huge leap forward up the evolutionary ladder. You are now a parrot.

 

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post #282 of 295
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And we know because BR was handed down the Truth from Mt Harris in a Holy Manifesto.

Why do you hate Truth Nightcrawler?

DIE HERETIC DIE!!!!!!

I see what you did there. You're a funny guy mister funny guy.

 

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post #283 of 295
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I see what you did there. You're a funny guy mister funny guy.

No, no...you don't get it...Nightcrawler is a Muslim....

It might not be in the manifesto (yet) but remember St Harris's words:

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While keeping the Christian Nation on notice that Harris remains disdainful of "wasting time" on Jesus, he now calls for something of an alliance with the Right against Muslim Arabs and the "head-in-the-sand liberals" he denounced in a recent editorial. "Nonbelievers like myself stand beside you, dumbstruck by the Muslim hordes who chant death to whole nations of the living,"

And of course we know that he believes there are NO Muslim moderates and the holders of some beliefs (ie Islamic ones) can be ethically killed and tortured.

So I'm not joking at all....chilling you find it funny.

Nightcrawler is in fact in real danger from Harris' manifesto and people like you who support him.

And so are many other thousands of innocent people - indeed he has stated a few innocent people tortured is a small price to pay.

The sad thing is BR, underneath all the verbiage you are just another macho right-winger...and the really frightening thing is you probably don't even realize it.
What is Faith? When your good deed pleases you and your evil deed grieves you, you are a believer. What is Sin? When a thing disturbs the peace of your heart, give it up - Prophet Muhammad
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post #284 of 295
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Congratulations on your huge leap forward up the evolutionary ladder. You are now a parrot.

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I see what you did there. You're a funny guy mister funny guy.

I prefer to think of myself as a network news anchor thank you very much. Now please excuse me while I check my blackberry for the latest Obama talking points. I'm helping him shape his narrative that I'll read to the sheeple later tonight.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

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post #285 of 295
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Yup, I'm just a macho right winger. You know, the socialist, science minded, anti-war right winger. Of course. You have me pegged there sego.

How about this...when I can draw a picture of Mohammad without getting death threats, Islam can be a peaceful religion. I want to hear these moderate Muslims denouncing the shit out of all the terrible violent shit that is perpetrated under the name of Islam. Until then, the only real threat I see is coming from them, not me.

 

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post #286 of 295
Was it the first shit that was dangerous and the second shit that was innoculous or is that reversed.

I'd hate to get all that shit wrong.

"During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

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post #287 of 295
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Yup, I'm just a macho right winger. You know, the socialist, science minded, anti-war right winger. Of course. You have me pegged there sego.

You support one. You post support for manifestos written by one. You are happy to be labelled the same as one.

If it walks like a duck...but then I did say you were probably unaware of it.

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How about this...when I can draw a picture of Mohammad without getting death threats, Islam can be a peaceful religion.

Like now for example. Islam has been drawing pictures of Muhammad for 1500 years.

One Of Hundreds of Examples Chosen At Random

This is again where atheism shades into right-wing politics. At least Harris is honest about it and therefore his position is consistent. Yours is more shaky.

You see there are a few nutters in Islam who WOULD kill you for drawing Muhammad. They would kill other Muslims too. But they are not Islam and never have been - hence the thousands of pictures of Muhammad that exist.

So to argue that these nutters ARE Islam you HAVE to engage in the classic right-wing debate of how many 'a few' actually is - a thousand? Ten thousand? A million?

Maybe you think that is ALL Muslims? That's 1.57 billion more or less.

So how many is it? 1.57 billion ready to kill? Or 50%? 25% ?

You like facts and 'proof' - name your figure.

Then tell me that represents ALL ISLAM (or just evade as usual - probably safer) but the fact is you can't. Only right-wing xenophobe non-thinkers can do that. And to argue it you need to align yourself with them.....align yourself with the Right-wing Fundie US Xians you calim to despise (though who Harris wants to work together with), align yourself with right-wing racist fascists like Geert Wilders...

And you claim to be a Socialist.

Please don't insult my intelligence. And don't insult yourself - accept your bedfellows or reject them - just don't obfuscate or excuse. You're better than that.

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I want to hear these moderate Muslims denouncing the shit out of all the terrible violent shit that is perpetrated under the name of Islam.

No you don't.

You don't want to hear that at all. Because then that would torpedo your 'religion is evil' argument.

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Until then, the only real threat I see is coming from them, not me.

There's a saying in Arabic: the canal carries water but does not itself drink.

Every genocidal system needs people who were 'just following orders' or 'did not know what was happening'.

The facilitators. I know them when I see them.

Meanwhile you spread the lie that - up to you to put a percentage or number you think is accurate - Islam is a threat to you and your desired cartoon Muhammad-drawing activities.

Why don't you just tell it like it is..wait...we already know....
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post #288 of 295
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For someone who absolutely hates havings his beliefs and positions mischaracterized as well as hates people taking the utterly simplistic and unsophisticated interpretations of arguments, you sure as fuck have been doing it all over the place with my views and my arguments this entire thread.

 

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post #289 of 295
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For someone who absolutely hates havings his beliefs and positions mischaracterized as well as hates people taking the utterly simplistic and unsophisticated interpretations of arguments, you sure as fuck have been doing it all over the place with my views and my arguments this entire thread.

Evidence? I have the hang of this proof thing now...

You have to post a quote from me where I did it right? And then I get to reply and we do this thing called 'debate' yes?
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post #290 of 295
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I'm tired. I know the burden of proof is mine. I just don't really give a fuck right now to respond at length. We've been through this before. You get all pissy when someone uses the word religion because you have a very narrow and non-mainstream definition of the word that frankly few people use. You get all upset when others don't draw these fine distinctions, and yet, you paint atheists with the broadest brush possible.

I'm sorry, it's just ridiculous.

 

“The nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth, the iron in our blood, the carbon in our apple pies were made in the interiors of collapsing stars. We are made of starstuff.” 
-Sagan
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post #291 of 295
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Originally Posted by BR View Post

I'm tired. I know the burden of proof is mine. I just don't really give a fuck right now to respond at length. We've been through this before. You get all pissy when someone uses the word religion because you have a very narrow and non-mainstream definition of the word that frankly few people use. You get all upset when others don't draw these fine distinctions, and yet, you paint atheists with the broadest brush possible.

I'm sorry, it's just ridiculous.

I understand...it's tough when you get tired.... take it easy...get some rest. Have a break for a bit, you'll feel better.
What is Faith? When your good deed pleases you and your evil deed grieves you, you are a believer. What is Sin? When a thing disturbs the peace of your heart, give it up - Prophet Muhammad
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What is Faith? When your good deed pleases you and your evil deed grieves you, you are a believer. What is Sin? When a thing disturbs the peace of your heart, give it up - Prophet Muhammad
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post #292 of 295
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Originally Posted by BR View Post

I'm tired. I know the burden of proof is mine. I just don't really give a fuck right now to respond at length. We've been through this before. You get all pissy when someone uses the word religion because you have a very narrow and non-mainstream definition of the word that frankly few people use. You get all upset when others don't draw these fine distinctions, and yet, you paint atheists with the broadest brush possible.

I'm sorry, it's just ridiculous.

Just stop disagreeing with him. That will make things so much easier.
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post #293 of 295
What is it with outspoken Atheists and smoking?

Christopher Hitchens has esophageal cancer.

Maybe now those nuts will start to embrace science. Smoking kills!
post #294 of 295
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This certainly reminds me of a few people on this board...and one in particular.

 

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post #295 of 295
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What is it with outspoken Atheists and smoking?

Christopher Hitchens has esophageal cancer.

Maybe now those nuts will start to embrace science. Smoking kills!

his cancer has nothing to do with science... it's god punishing him...
(you know... that god that loves him unconditionally...)
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