Originally Posted by jfanning
You mean like the fact that a number of countries have good consumer protection laws and Apple must increase the price to cater for the additional costs that they must handle to repair items for free outside the normal warranty?
MANY additional costs.
- As you've indicated, warranty costs are higher due to different laws
- VAT included
- Import duties
- Higher employee costs in most European countries
- Higher overhead costs due to taxes, etc
Originally Posted by Lemon Bon Bon.
Skater has a point. 'Blind loyalty' to Apple because they do 'some' things well doesn't negate criticism of their desktop policy. Which is and has been crrrrrrrrrrrrrap for some time. Nicely designed boxes with underperforming parts.
The rest of their hardware in laptops and phones/pads is ok. But their desktop line up is retarded, as are the prices, as are the gpus, as are the vram amounts as are the prices (I said that once, yeah?)
You can go to overclockers and get a six core system for under a k. You just know that such a system from Apple is going to start at 2k for their 'pro' because, apparently, it's a 'wooooo' 'workstation'. (But without any of the workstation parts, yeah? Oh. The Xeon. A quad core. For 2k. Yeah. Bad ass workstation part...along with the bad ass consumer gpu and flacid penile ram.)
Apple. Like the iPhone 4. The laptops are decent.
The dekstops and the price hikes over the last year or so in recession smack of arrogance and greed.
Then don't friggin' buy one.
I'm glad you're happy buying bucket shop computers. It's not the same thing by ANY stretch of the imagination. I bet you'd say a Yugo is identical BMW because it has the same number of doors, seats the same number of people, and both have one steering wheel, too.
Originally Posted by extremeskater
Of course you want to end the discussion because clearly you don't have a clue what I am talking about. If you did then you could put up a solid debate, which clearly you can't.
There are many tier 2 and tier 3 vendors that have far better reliability then Apple. At a lower cost.
Apple in 2008 and 2009 still scored the highest with a 9.2, 16% of their hardware needed repairs on average. Companies like Asus had an 8.8 rating, hardly a bad rating. Asus while getting a lower score then Apple had only an 6% product repair, Sony was right next to Apple with 18%. Toshiba had a 13% repair ratio.
So blind loyality to Apple doesn't equal better numbers. They just simply have a cult like following.
Not that mindless survey again.
1. It was done by a warranty company and has no validity outside their customer base.
2. If you had a problem with a $300 Asus netbook and a $2500 MacBook Pro, which one are you more likely to take the time to have repaired?
Asus' rating was so high because a huge percentage of their computers were so cheap that people throw them out if they're more than 6 months old and have a problem. It's really sad that people like you are still considering that to have any meaning at all.
Why not look at the surveys done by groups that actually measure REAL reliability?