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post #41 of 116
6/15/10 at 6:48am
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Um... I said that around every third month I hit 1700 texts. That would be 500 messages at 5 cents per message for a total of $25 in overage costs. I don't think that would be less than $15 across all three months.

sorry i misstyped. Att's second limit is 1500 which would be 10 bucks every third month
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post #42 of 116
6/15/10 at 6:49am
yeah, both apple and att sites keep crapping out for me
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post #43 of 116
6/15/10 at 6:51am
T-Mobile Germany did just issue an apology via Twitter... They do everything possible to improve their servers, but they never had a load like that before! It is not even 4pm here, and so far they have processed ten times more pre-orders than for the 3GS last year!

Buying stock seems like a good idea
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post #44 of 116
6/15/10 at 6:53am
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Originally Posted by dreyfus2 View Post

T-Mobile Germany did just issue an apology via Twitter... They do everything possible to improve their servers, but they never had a load like that before! It is not even 4pm here, and so far they have processed ten times more pre-orders than for the 3GS last year!

Buying stock seems like a good idea

Do we know what they processed last year?

This is looking more than the 2M sales many are expecting by the end of the first weekend.
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post #45 of 116
6/15/10 at 6:53am
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Originally Posted by hillstones View Post

You are probably not eligible for the subsidized price. Or, you chose a non-contract plan.

That's just the thing: it never allowed me to make a data plan choice at all. In fact, on that reservation page, there was a "we couldn't make...." message next to the "Pick your store to get it" panel. Hmm. Well, I seem to at least have a reservation, so either I'll pay the upgrade price (which AT&T claims I'm eligible for) or walk out sad.

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post #46 of 116
6/15/10 at 6:54am
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I'm ordering for delivery from Apple and selling to Gazelle.

You might want to try eBay instead...I just sold my 2-year old iPhone 3G 16GB White for $360 on eBay...and my home button didn't even work properly (which was disclosed). Especially if you have the older boot loader (iPhone made before September 2008) which allows people to "unlock" the phone even after updating the OS.
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post #47 of 116
6/15/10 at 6:56am
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I especially like the elegant and user-friendly "18-click shopping", cannily presented over 7 separate pages (client-server connections). This allows the shopper to casually read The Odyssey, nap, get a pedicure or reconsider purchase decisions,-- while shopping. What is pleasantly convient is the ability to start over at any time and the flexibility to re-specify any previously gathered information. ...The only improvement, I can think of, would be to rewrite the whole thing in Flash!

There needs to be an app for that!

I downloaded Apple's brand new Apple Store app this morning. Whenever it tries to get my account information from AT&T, it crashes.

I'm done trying for a while. I'll give it another go this afternoon, this evening or sometime tomorrow.

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post #48 of 116
6/15/10 at 7:03am
"Your request couldnt be processed.

Were sorry, but there was an error processing your request. Please try again later."


I think i reached the ceiling on crashed attempts.
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post #49 of 116
6/15/10 at 7:06am
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

Do we know what they processed last year?

This is looking more than the 2M sales many are expecting by the end of the first weekend.

First day sales including pre-orders were around 20,000 in 2009, but a lot of people left with empty hands and availability did not really stabilize until September. 20k may not sound much, but hype and queuing are not too popular here... If they manage to move more than 200k on day one, than this is close to a miracle. Sales in France and the UK are normally a lot stronger - so, I guess, if Apple made enough then Europe should move more than a million alone.
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post #50 of 116
6/15/10 at 7:08am
It's stuck on processing my AT&T info as we speak. Gee...imagine...a bottleneck from AT&T.

UPDATE: Never mind, I have a balance past due, so it doesn't even let me order. hahaha.
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post #51 of 116
6/15/10 at 7:14am
I got to a price once and then it crapped out on me. Usually it goes out at the ATT request
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post #52 of 116
6/15/10 at 7:14am
There is no excuse for this. I hope Apple and AT&T get some muddy press for this. They both deserve it.
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post #53 of 116
6/15/10 at 7:15am
Everyone panic! This is your only chance to get one of these. Not getting one most definitely will bring wretched agony and heartache, but if you succeed, you will be one of the few humans on earth to experience total bliss and ecstasy.

You may as well kill yourself if you don't get your hands on an iphone 4 absolutely as soon as humanly possible.
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post #54 of 116
6/15/10 at 7:17am
This is ridiculous!! I have been trying for several hours and cannot get through...either times out or give an error.

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post #55 of 116
6/15/10 at 7:19am
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Originally Posted by daylove22 View Post

This is ridiculous!! I have been trying for several hours and cannot get through...either times out or give an error.

Same here. Several hours, no success. I got really close, al the way to Add to Cart, when it first came back online at 8:30, now its gotten slowly worse and errors every time.
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post #56 of 116
6/15/10 at 7:20am
Yet again,

Another aspect that AT&T sucks at.

30 minutes on hold to upgrade only to be told that they can't do it over the phone.

Hmm, maybe an announcement message before you wait? Nah, too easy....

Website down.

Well, it is understandable considering this is the first iphone launch that they have had to deal with so how could they possibly anticipate the demand?
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post #57 of 116
6/15/10 at 7:22am
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

There needs to be an app for that!

There is an app for that!

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post #58 of 116
6/15/10 at 7:26am
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There is an app for that!

It doesn't work.
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post #59 of 116
6/15/10 at 7:28am
Everyone, please - turn off your wi-fi. Thanks.
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post #60 of 116
6/15/10 at 7:31am
Been trying for an hour, still no luck. T^T
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post #61 of 116
6/15/10 at 7:34am
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You might want to try eBay instead...I just sold my 2-year old iPhone 3G 16GB White for $360 on eBay...and my home button didn't even work properly (which was disclosed). Especially if you have the older boot loader (iPhone made before September 2008) which allows people to "unlock" the phone even after updating the OS.

An iPhone 3G for $360??

Sucker born everyday I guess.

No way in heck would I pay that for a 2 year old phone, and a used one at that.

And not to mention that its woefully outdated now. Heck, you can't even get all of the iOS4 features on it.

Good for you though.
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post #62 of 116
6/15/10 at 7:34am
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Everyone, please - turn off your wi-fi. Thanks.

Now that's funny!
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post #63 of 116
6/15/10 at 7:35am
I finally grew impatient and drove over to Radio Shack to reserve mine. They're also giving me $244 for my 16 gig iPhone 3GS. iPhone 4 for $55, can't beat it.
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post #64 of 116
6/15/10 at 7:37am
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Originally Posted by eko425 View Post

You might want to try eBay instead...I just sold my 2-year old iPhone 3G 16GB White for $360 on eBay...and my home button didn't even work properly (which was disclosed). Especially if you have the older boot loader (iPhone made before September 2008) which allows people to "unlock" the phone even after updating the OS.

I have a 2 year old iPhone 16GB black. How do I know if it's the older boot model? I bought it the end of September 2008. It is a little scuffy from normal wear on the back, with a couple chips in the plastic. The screen is in great condition. How much do you think that would go for on eBay?

I was going to "Trade it" at Radio Shack, but if I can get more money for it on eBay, then I'd rather go that route.
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post #65 of 116
6/15/10 at 7:43am
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I finally grew impatient and drove over to Radio Shack to reserve mine. They're also giving me $244 for my 16 gig iPhone 3GS. iPhone 4 for $55, can't beat it.

They're taking trade-ins?
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post #66 of 116
6/15/10 at 7:44am
While I too am frustrated - Im a bit humbled by the fact that now millions of americans own a iphone 3G/S. Obviously today shows just how many people got their eligibility dates upgraded to today with At&t. This cannot compare to previous on sales - with what 20 million iphone owners at least. Of course the systems are overloaded. They grossly underestimated the pre-order demand.

This is more about the ability for Apple to get At&t to flush forward millions of upgrade eligibility choices to sell through as much iphone product as they can only to be announced that Verizon will soon carry it. Why? All the signs are there. Early upgrades to get as many mobile users hooked to At&t while they can. Changes to the rate plans. Changes to the contract termination fees. Now insurance for the iphone. All the things that COMPETITORS do when they will COMPETE on a product to retain customers.

Now this is STUPID -- Called At&t. Was put on hold 30 minutes only for them to say they are not doing upgrades over the phone! I said why didn't the operator who answered my call just tell me that to save the aggravation! Doh! But we all know At&t and their "customer service".

Apple site for me still crashing. Still not able to get through on the apple store phone either.

Here's a question.. Are Apple Stores themselves taking pre-orders today at the store itself, kinda like Best Buy at 1 pm....Does that also include Radio Shack?
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post #67 of 116
6/15/10 at 7:44am
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Overriding Goal: This is a Pre-Order, Stupid... Take the order!



Ask the following questions

1) Do you have an existing Apple Online Store Account?
2) Do you want to purchase a new phone/line for an existing Carrier Account?
3) Do you have an existing iPhone/line that you want to upgrade?
4) Is this a new iPhone Carrier Account?
5) What is your existing iPhone number, if any?
6) What is your zip code?
7) What are the last 4 digits of your SSI number?

Require Apple Store Account setup or login, if necessary

Present pricing options for the 2 phones and subsidy options-- the buyer, likely, knows for what price he is qualified.

Present this all on a single page

Once data has been entered, Never require the buyer to enter it again!
-- don't clear the fields
-- repopulate the data after sending form

Explain to the buyer that:

1) This is a Pre-Order
2) Apple will book the order before validating eligibility/price/subsidy with the carrier
3) Apple will acknowledge the booked order immediately.
4) After booking, Apple will validate eligibility/price/subsidy with the carrier
5) After validation, within 24 hours, Apple will send you an Order Acknowledgement with specifics of eligibility/price/subsidy
6) You will have the option to accept the order, or modify it.


This is a Pre-Order, Stupid... Take the order (and capture all the info).

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post #68 of 116
6/15/10 at 7:45am
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They're taking trade-ins?

Yep, they sure are.
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post #69 of 116
6/15/10 at 7:46am
I tried this morning at about 4AM and system did not respond. Tried again at 0830 and got to checking with ATT and it just sat there spinning away for 10 min gave up. Tried several times again and got either error try again just before entering ATT info or after. Tried the new Store App and it failed, crashed the app.

I guess my only option is go to a physical store and pass the misery onto a store employee.
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post #70 of 116
6/15/10 at 7:48am
Just ordered my 16gb Black iPhone (UK = Unlocked )

UK also = over priced
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post #71 of 116
6/15/10 at 7:51am
Unless you are calling At&t to inquire about your eligibility, don't waste your time. YOU CANNOT PRE-ORDER THE iPhone 4 over the phone. At At&t stores ONLY.
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post #72 of 116
6/15/10 at 7:53am
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/06/...for-pre-order/

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post #73 of 116
6/15/10 at 7:56am
I was able to place an order for a black 16GB iPhone 4 from the AT&T Premier store this morning, around 9:20 AM central time. The site loaded very slow but it allowed me to place my order. AT&T provided free expedited shipping which was nice.
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post #74 of 116
6/15/10 at 8:00am
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

Do we know what they processed last year?

This is looking more than the 2M sales many are expecting by the end of the first weekend.

We may have over 2M by end of first pre-order day!
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post #75 of 116
6/15/10 at 8:00am
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Originally Posted by DanaCameron View Post

I downloaded Apple's brand new Apple Store app this morning. Whenever it tries to get my account information from AT&T, it crashes.

I'm done trying for a while. I'll give it another go this afternoon, this evening or sometime tomorrow.

Same thing with me. This is all a bit pathetic.
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post #76 of 116
6/15/10 at 8:02am
At 1am PST i tried the apple site, it told me my phone was going to be 799.00 (but I did get through), I hit the AT&T site at 1:05am PST and put my order in got the correct discount and BOOM! order went through!

Sad that there are no White phones, I was getting one for a friend as a bday present to replace her 1950s flip phone (haha), now I guess I'll just give the iPhone giftcard and let her decide if she wants the black or wait for the white.

but i got mine
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post #77 of 116
6/15/10 at 8:05am
I want the white one. So I am going to have to wait. I guess the 6 million they build is all black and they didnt start on the white ones yet.



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Apple and its various wireless partners around the world prepared to launch iPhone 4 on June 24 began taking preorders for the hardware on Tuesday, though the new white model is unavailable.

As was announced at the Worldwide Developers Conference last week, customers can buy a 16GB iPhone 4 with a two-year contract with AT&T in the U.S. for $199, while the 32GB model costs $299.

Last year's iPhone 3GS, available in an 8GB capacity, is also available for $99 with contract, and all three models deliver on the launch date of June 24. Preorders are limited to two per customer.

On the Apple online store, the white iPhone 4 is not available for preorder. In addition, the model with a white front and back cannot be secured for in-store pickup. On AT&T's site, the white iPhone 4 is listed as "coming soon."

Limited availability of the white iPhone 4 was revealed on Monday, when an internal memo from AT&T suggested that supplies would be scarce at launch. That memo said that while AT&T stores will take reservations for the white iPhone 4, it will not become available until later this summer.

Both the black iPhone 4 and 8GB iPhone 3GS can be secured via free shipping, or with in-store pickup for the June 24 launch.

While the iPhone remains locked to Apple's exclusive carrier partner in the U.S., AT&T, some overseas customers have the option of an unlocked handset. An unlocked iPhone costs £499 for 16GB and £599 for 32GB in the U.K, and 629 for 16GB and 739 for 32GB in France.



The new iPhone will debut next week in the U.S., France, Germany, the U.K. and Japan. Apple has announced that the iPhone 4 international launch will ramp up to 87 total countries by September, its fastest global deployment of a new handset.
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post #78 of 116
6/15/10 at 8:11am
Meanwhile in the UK, you can only pre-order through the Apple store at the moment, and only a full priced unlocked iPhone (£500 for 16GB, £600 for 32GB). There's nowhere to get one on contract at the moment!
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post #79 of 116
6/15/10 at 8:12am
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

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Overriding Goal: This is a Pre-Order, Stupid... Take the order!



Ask the following questions

1) Do you have an existing Apple Online Store Account?
2) Do you want to purchase a new phone/line for an existing Carrier Account?
3) Do you have an existing iPhone/line that you want to upgrade?
4) Is this a new iPhone Carrier Account?
5) What is your existing iPhone number, if any?
6) What is your zip code?
7) What are the last 4 digits of your SSI number?

Require Apple Store Account setup or login, if necessary

Present pricing options for the 2 phones and subsidy options-- the buyer, likely, knows for what price he is qualified.

Present this all on a single page

Once data has been entered, Never require the buyer to enter it again!
-- don't clear the fields
-- repopulate the data after sending form

Explain to the buyer that:

1) This is a Pre-Order
2) Apple will book the order before validating eligibility/price/subsidy with the carrier
3) Apple will acknowledge the booked order immediately.
4) After booking, Apple will validate eligibility/price/subsidy with the carrier
5) After validation, within 24 hours, Apple will send you an Order Acknowledgement with specifics of eligibility/price/subsidy
6) You will have the option to accept the order, or modify it.


This is a Pre-Order, Stupid... Take the order (and capture all the info).

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Actually, if you read the page, its not JUST a pre-order. The phone is delivered already registered and 'ready to use' so they need the att information (in the US).
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post #80 of 116
6/15/10 at 8:17am
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Originally Posted by Postulant View Post

I finally grew impatient and drove over to Radio Shack to reserve mine. They're also giving me $244 for my 16 gig iPhone 3GS. iPhone 4 for $55, can't beat it.

Do you have to hand over your phone and go phone-less until 6/24?
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