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Shipping dates for iPhone 4 slipped for the second time in less than 24 hours Wednesday, as preorders for both the 16GB and 32GB models are now scheduled to ship by July 14.

The delay means that some customers may not receive their handset until nearly a month after it launches on June 24, when shipping time is considered.

Earlier Wednesday, Apple moved back new iPhone 4 orders, promising they would ship by July 2. Those orders were scheduled to be delivered between July 6 and July 8, meaning customers could have to wait as long as two weeks after the June 24 launch to receive their iPhone.

Assuming the same shipping time, orders sent out on July 14 would not likely arrive until around Monday, July 19. That would be 25 days -- or nearly four weeks -- after the June 24 launch.

Apple announced that more than 600,000 devices were preordered on the first day of iPhone 4 availability. The Cupertino, Calif., company also took the opportunity to apologize to customers who encountered difficulties in placing their preorder.



Both Apple and AT&T, its exclusive wireless carrier in the U.S., experienced issues, as AT&T's servers struggled to verify eligibility for some existing customers, and Apple was forced to turn away callers to its toll-free telephone number.

Orders through AT&T are no longer an option for U.S. customers, as the wireless carrier announced Wednesday that it was suspending preorders due to demand ten times higher than for the iPhone 3GS. The company said it has temporarily suspended preorders so it can fulfill the orders it has already received, and the availability of additional inventory will determine whether they will resume taking preorders.

Preorders remain limited to the black iPhone 4 model, as the white version is listed as currently unavailable for purchase. Third-party retailers such as Best Buy have also halted preorders of the white model.
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Production issues with white model?
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at&t issued a statement, including

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In addition to unprecedented pre-order sales, yesterday there were more than 13 million visits to AT&Ts website where customers can check to see if they are eligible [...]

considering i accounted for about 1 million of those visits, that doesn't sound all that bad.
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post #4 of 72
You'd have hoped they'd have learnt their lesson over the ipad, lol you can just picture the board meeting now "guys, we've got this super hot new phone that everyones going to want, perhaps we should be cautious and only have a million or so available on launch day, what do you guys think?"
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I guess few people wants the EVO 4G. After all, the buzz was that it will be the iPhone killer. Well, the pundits are wrong once again. The only smartphone to outsell an iPhone model will be another iPhone.

"iPhone, the smarter phone!". This should be the new Apple trademark.

Can't wait to get mine.
post #6 of 72
The EVO is a nice phone, I have used one and it does a good job. As long as I get my iQuattro on the 24th, I'm good.
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News Flash! "Orders placed next week will arrive in July 2011, two weeks after the official launch of iPhone 5."

(Sure am glad I persisted yesterday! )
post #8 of 72
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Originally Posted by saarek View Post

....you can just picture the board meeting now "guys, we've got this super hot new phone that everyones going to want, perhaps we should be cautious and only have a million or so available on launch day, what do you guys think?"

I am sure the trade-off was: 600,000 on Day 1 and get it out June 24, versus wait to have a couple of million in hand but delay launch date by a month.

Hindsight is so 20-20.
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Originally Posted by OC4Theo View Post

I guess few people wants the EVO 4G. After all, the buzz was that it will be the iPhone killer.

Oh, how right you are.
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Originally Posted by saarek View Post

You'd have hoped they'd have learnt their lesson over the ipad, lol you can just picture the board meeting now "guys, we've got this super hot new phone that everyones going to want, perhaps we should be cautious and only have a million or so available on launch day, what do you guys think?"

Gee, nobody ever thought of that before.

The factories that Apple contracts can only produce X amount per day. Would you really prefer that Apple delayed the launch 3 months just to build up inventory?

Manufacturing facilities for such cutting edge devices aren't cheap. It doesn't make sense to build tons of extra capacity just to let it sit idle after the first couple months.
post #11 of 72
I was going to preorder, but i want the white one. They'll probably be shipping those around august.
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How many iphones will each store have on 6/24?
I ordered mine from best buy yesterday and they told me I was preorder #15. Do you think I will get my iphone on 6/24?
post #13 of 72
I finally ordered my new iPhone from the Apple website this morning and have not recieved a confirmation email yet. Anyone have an idea why it's taking so long to confirm? A friend ordered his yesterday and it took 6 hours to get an email.
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Gruber, yesterday had an interesting comment about iPhone 4 vs. latest Android phone, reproduced here.

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An interesting divergence: the iPhone 4 has gotten noticeably smaller (both thinner and narrower); the latest batch of top-tier Android phones are getting noticeably larger.

I think it's a mistake on the part of Android makers to go this route, and the rush on iPhone 4, I think, bears this out, at least to some extent*. You aren't really getting that much more screen real estate on the Android phones, not enough that it changes the phone into something iPad-like, so it's basically just going to mean the screen elements are marginally larger, or maybe you can see an extra item in a list, but it becomes more awkward in the hand, and more to lug around. On the other hand, getting smaller means fitting in a pocket more easily (or into other places where it didn't fit well before) and better facilitates one-handed use. The RAZR, after all, was wildly popular based almost entirely on it's small size, and I think people generally don't want their phone to be bigger than it absolutely has to be.


* OK, there are lots of other things that make the phone attractive to lots of people, but I think the size is an important feature.
post #15 of 72
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The factories that Apple contracts can only produce X amount per day. Would you really prefer that Apple delayed the launch 3 months just to build up inventory?

Manufacturing facilities for such cutting edge devices aren't cheap. It doesn't make sense to build tons of extra capacity just to let it sit idle after the first couple months.

It should only take them a month to build 3MM devices, possibly less. With the ramp expectations, and the likely reality that they only want half the units to be delivered (so store crowds are in the news), it still seems like there are a whole lot of missing units.

Ithink Apple is going to have to put more thought into automated assembly provisions in their designs in the future.
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It should only take them a month to build 3MM devices, possibly less. With the ramp expectations, and the likely reality that they only want half the units to be delivered (so store crowds are in the news), it still seems like there are a whole lot of missing units.

Ithink Apple is going to have to put more thought into automated assembly provisions in their designs in the future.

Apple would rather be in the news for not meeting demand than be in the news for selling more units on launch day than any other gadget in history?

Oh wait, you're right. The iPhone also brought down the Twin Towers and caused the gulf oil spill too. Shhh.

As for automated assembly. Do you know how they assemble the iPhone? Or you just making things up because you're emotional. Hint, watch the iPhone 4 videos and then come back and tell us with a straight face that the manufacturing isn't automated enough.

Edit: Here's the link:
http://www.apple.com/iphone/design/#design-video
Skip to 2:20
Now what were you saying about automated assembly? Apple didn't put thought into automated assembly?
post #17 of 72
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Originally Posted by OC4Theo View Post

I guess few people wants the EVO 4G. After all, the buzz was that it will be the iPhone killer. Well, the pundits are wrong once again. The only smartphone to outsell an iPhone model will be another iPhone.

"iPhone, the smarter phone!". This should be the new Apple trademark.

Can't wait to get mine.

I wouldn't care too much about things like that. The media wants to create these kind of storylines to make things seem interesting.

The only people who aren't buying iPhones are:

-people who can't stand AT&T or actually like their carrier
-anti-Apple folk
-those who get free smartphones with a contract
post #18 of 72
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Originally Posted by eh270 View Post

Oh, how right you are.

That is a lie too, they were recently outed by an employee that posted internal information (and was fired for it) that stated only 64K EVOs were actually sold in that 3 day span.
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Originally Posted by aaarrrgggh View Post

It should only take them a month to build 3MM devices, possibly less. With the ramp expectations, and the likely reality that they only want half the units to be delivered (so store crowds are in the news), it still seems like there are a whole lot of missing units.

Ithink Apple is going to have to put more thought into automated assembly provisions in their designs in the future.



Um missing? How about the other 5 countries it launched in as well, that 600,000 number is US only.

Man people think before you jump.
post #20 of 72
Wow! Frackin' amazing. Did Apple just sell another 600,000 phones for the July 6-8 shipment date? 1.2 million phones pre-ordered in less than two days?

My guess is yes.

The next disaster will be activation day, June 24. I will be patient, especially since I slipped my order in at 8PM EDT yesterday and scored a home-delivered iPhone for June 24. I have no problem activating my phone a day or two later since my 3GS will likely get a firmware upgrade to iOS4 in that time (maybe).
post #21 of 72
Hopefully Foxconn will be nice enough to work its workers into the ground to help meet demand. One company executive recently said that he expects the company to force workers to pull 24 hour shifts for the next 6 weeks.
post #22 of 72
I assume this applies to the US?

UK now 2nd July. Has anybody who managed to order on the day had any feedback from Apple about delayed shipping?

I pre-ordered iPad on the first day it was available but only got it yesterday. I also got in early and pre-ordered the iPhone but I'm not holding my breath for 24th.

Apple are redefining the meaning of pre-order. I wonder how many Apple keep back for walk-ins on the day. The Regent street store in London had iPad in stock for 5 days and yet Apple hung onto my order for weeks. Still it makes for good PR when the BBC show people lining up outside the store.

Well done Apple your still the only company that can screw it's customers around and yet we still love you for it. They do say love is blind.

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post #23 of 72
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Gruber, yesterday had an interesting comment about iPhone 4 vs. latest Android phone, reproduced here.

I think it's a mistake on the part of Android makers to go this route, and the rush on iPhone 4, I think, bears this out, at least to some extent*. You aren't really getting that much more screen real estate on the Android phones, not enough that it changes the phone into something iPad-like, so it's basically just going to mean the screen elements are marginally larger, or maybe you can see an extra item in a list, but it becomes more awkward in the hand, and more to lug around. On the other hand, getting smaller means fitting in a pocket more easily (or into other places where it didn't fit well before) and better facilitates one-handed use. The RAZR, after all, was wildly popular based almost entirely on it's small size, and I think people generally don't want their phone to be bigger than it absolutely has to be.


* OK, there are lots of other things that make the phone attractive to lots of people, but I think the size is an important feature.

I disagree with your assessment that it's a mistake. I think that other vendors can't compete with Apple on pretty any level directly or as a whole so they have to do something different to appeal to customers. I think using a bigger screen is a good move. They don't have the economy of scale or background to do what Apple does with a phone from the CPU to the milling of a stainless steal frame, and all the way up to the OS. Apple's logic board looks wicked in the iPhone 4. I can't wait for that to be dissected.

Plus, they need that space for the larger battery since Android is less optimized, less engineered components, and (for Sprint) the WiMAX chip. The MS Kin shows an incredible amount of snap on components for the logic board.

PS: Gruber didn't mention one thing that seems to be trending with these Android phones. They are increasing the display size but maintaining the resolution. This makes sense so they don't have to create a tailored UI and the apps work the same, but it does mean that the ppi is dropping, even if just slightly while Apple's ppi has doubled. Moto seems to like 854x640 (FWVGA) and HTC likes 480x800 (WVGA).
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Hopefully Foxconn will be nice enough to work its workers into the ground to help meet demand. One company executive recently said that he expects the company to force workers to pull 24 hour shifts for the next 6 weeks.

I heard that they are redesigning the assembly lines vertically so when they jump off the roof they can still work on the way down.

(It's supposed to be funny, but if it's offensive to anyone I'll remove it)
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post #25 of 72
This isn't very encouraging for those of us in a country that's, you know, not America. We're due to get the iPhone 4 in July, but if the US is already filling orders that they have to wait until July, what's to say they won't push back the release here?
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i heard that they are redesigning the assembly lines vertically so when they jump off the roof they can still work on the way down.

(it's supposed to be funny, but if it's offensive to anyone i'll remove it)

lmao!!!!!!
post #27 of 72
I ordered this morning and got a ship date of 7/2. Arrival July 6th-8th. I'm good with that.

I still have to laugh as people froth at the mouth over having to wait. It's really not surprising. The 3G launch was like this, too. It took me a month to be able to buy one in a store. The demand for the iPhone 4 is just insane. That is why websites didn't function. Apple cannot work miracles. No other company could keep up with this kind of demand, either.
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This isn't very encouraging for those of us in a country that's, you know, not America. We're due to get the iPhone 4 in July, but if the US is already filling orders that they have to wait until July, what's to say they won't push back the release here?

It does suck and it's a possibility, but they tend to be good about making their own deadline for a product that has been released elsewhere, even if it's more limited than we'd prefer. In other words, I this point I think they'll make all the countries on the July list even if it's not until Friday July 30th and the retailers are getting only a very few units each.
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post #29 of 72
Been trying to order since yerterday, no luck.
Now, Apple site immediately tells me: Your request couldnt be processed.
Were sorry, but there was an error processing your request. Please try again later.
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Honestly I am surprised so many people are preordering. 10 times the demand of iPhone 3gS? That is increadible, considering many people were yawning at the apple announcement saying that Evo is better, bigger, more wireless hotspotty and better carrier.

I guess yawners were hella wrong.

Clarification I don't mean people at the WWDC were yawning, but comments on engadget and other blogs that were covering iPhone 4 were pretty harsh, saying nothing new, evo is better so on. You can dig back through engadget and other sites to find countless comments like that.
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It does suck and it's a possibility, but they tend to be good about making their own deadline for a product that has been released elsewhere, even if it's more limited than we'd prefer. In other words, I this point I think they'll make all the countries on the July list even if it's not until Friday July 30th and the retailers are getting only a very few units each.

I live in RIM territory so I'm not really concerned about supply. A local Telus outlet had a huge lineup at opening the day the Blackberry Storm came out, and nobody with the 3GS. It's more the date that concerns me: July 30th isn't ideal.
post #32 of 72
I ordered mine through the App Store app. It didn't feel like a "solid" reservation, though.

The Ajax loading icon was active for about 10 seconds, but it just could be that they made the Ajax icon active for 10 seconds to make me think it actually logged into the reservation system and reserved a real phone, as opposed to giving me a reason to enter an Apple Store to buy accessories instead of picking up an actual phone.
post #33 of 72
Now up to July 24.......

You snooze, you lose.
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Now up to July 24.......

You snooze, you lose.



I should buy two, have them both up to my ears, and prance around local Apple Stores as others try to buy theirs, unsuccessfully.
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I disagree with your assessment that it's a mistake. I think that other vendors can't compete with Apple on pretty any level directly or as a whole so they have to do something different to appeal to customers. I think using a bigger screen is a good move.

... They are increasing the display size but maintaining the resolution. This makes sense so they don't have to create a tailored UI and the apps work the same, but it does mean that the ppi is dropping ...

I agree they need to do something, but, especially, as you mention, since the ppi is dropping, people will be lugging around a bigger screen for no real benefit. I could be wrong, but I just don't think these big screen, fat phones, like the one from Dell we ridiculed a while back, are going to end up being popular with consumers.
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Originally Posted by RadicalxEdward View Post

I was going to preorder, but i want the white one. They'll probably be shipping those around august.

Me too, I have the 3G in white, and i'm sticking with it.

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Production issues with white model?

I don't think (IMO) that it's a production issue moreso a decision made by Apple. My guess is producing one color right now (at launch) streamlines the produciton line. White phone was always less popular. If you remember, when the 3G launched, many apple store only HAD white iPhones left after the first couple weekends of sales. This shift in production priority probably eliminates that problem. People (like me) who really want the White one will have to wait. My guess would be that they will ship a limited supply to each location (be it Apple Stores, ATT, Best Buy and Radio Shack) on the 24th for walk-ins, or possibly by the end of July when current shipments are expected.
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How many iphones will each store have on 6/24?
I ordered mine from best buy yesterday and they told me I was preorder #15. Do you think I will get my iphone on 6/24?

Yes.

(Of course, keep in mind that anyone who says anything other than 'I have no clue' - incl. those who work for BB - is lying. ).
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Well done Apple your still the only company that can screw it's customers around and yet we still love you for it. They do say love is blind.

Nah... they call it the Stockholm Syndrome.
post #39 of 72
might have to sell mine on eBay on the 24th for around $800
re-order and wait it out...
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Honestly I am surprised so many people are preordering. 10 times the demand of iPhone 3gS? That is increadible, considering many people were yawning at the apple announcement saying that Evo is better, bigger, more wireless hotspotty and better carrier.

I guess yawners were hella wrong.

Clarification I don't mean people at the WWDC were yawning, but comments on engadget and other blogs that were covering iPhone 4 were pretty harsh, saying nothing new, evo is better so on. You can dig back through engadget and other sites to find countless comments like that.

People underestimate the importance of the new physical design to the masses. It's a huge sales driver. Huge.

Throw in At&t moving upgrade dates forward along with friendly-to-the-masses features (FaceTime, beautiful display, HD video camera) and you've got the perfect storm for a blowout upgrade cycle. Not to mention reduced data plan pricing.
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