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An iPhone 4 obtained early by a user in the Czech Republic has allowed a look at the photo and video recording quality of Apple's latest handset, prior to its public release.

A reader of Jablickar.cz offered the hands-on impressions and details, including photos and video recorded with the 5 megapixel lens on iPhone 4. The user, named Swenak, said the phone is fast and responsive, and its thinner and flat design makes it a better fit in a pocket.

The tipster said the new glass front and back prevented scratches, though they guessed that the stainless steel perimeter of the device could become scuffed up over time. The report also noted that the device received a GPS signal in a "surprisingly quick" fashion, obtaining a lock "almost immediately."

The site also noted that the phone was given heavy use for about an hour, playing games, surfing the Web, watching videos on YouTube and accessing Google Maps. During that time, the battery fell by just 10 percent.

The latest apparent leak is not the first early look at Apple's latest iPhone, as two other high-profile reveals showed off prototype version of iPhone 4 before the handset was officially announced. The preview in Prague does, however, represent the first time the handset was demonstrated in working fashion in public, outside of Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference. The previously obtained prototypes were non-functional when they were handled in the wild.

The iPhone 4 includes a whole-new camera system that includes LED flash with a 5 megapixel lens that records HD video. The new rear camera will record 720p video at 30 frames per second. Users can also conduct video editing via the $4.99 iMovie app to trim their HD clips right on the phone.



Analyst Yair Reiner with Oppenheimer said earlier this month that suppliers informed him the new camera module in iPhone 4 is "orders of magnitude more sophisticated than anything previously attempted in a smartphone."

Photos taken with iPhone 4 are included below, while the video sample is available in the original report.
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These are truly stunning!
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Those pictures are nicer than many of the ones taken with some of my friends' SLRs! This is really terrific.

Now if only the Touch could get this...
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Those pictures are nicer than many of the ones taken with some of my friends' SLRs! This is really terrific.

While my iPhone 4 won't replace my SLR - or even my dedicated digital camera, these pictures are truly amazing - far better than any smart phones I've ever seen, even from phones with more MP (so much for the 'My phone has 8 MP and yours only has 5' whining). For a change, I'll be able to pull out my phone and take a good picture rather than something that's quick, but not very good.
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post #5 of 81
Just like in 2007, phone manufacturers have been sent scrambling... What a shame - dictating and leading the pack with only 3 years under her belt - way to go Apple.
post #6 of 81
having a newborn, i'm very excited about ALWAYS having a decent camera and 720 video with me.

when the first iPhone was released i posted in a forum where everyone was mocking the LACK of features. i sarcastically wrote: i can't edit high def video or even run photoshop on the thing!

three years later: check and check.

so now what's missing for wishlist features?
all i can think of is LTE and more capacity, both of which are on their way.
post #7 of 81
I'm definitely throwing out my digital camera after I get my iPhone 4. (Fuji 10MP point-and-shoot, great camera, hassle to carry around in my pocket in addition to phone)
post #8 of 81
Those pictures look discolored . Video , too.
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Anyone have a YouTube link for the video?

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Those pictures are nicer than many of the ones taken with some of my friends' SLRs! This is really terrific.

Now if only the Touch could get this...

See, I was thinking they don't look that impressive but perhaps it's the lighting the shrinking of the original image.
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See, I was thinking they don't look that impressive but perhaps it's the lighting the shrinking of the original image.

Depends on what you're comparing it to.

Compared to my dSLR, it's not very impressive. But compared to my iPhone 3G or any of the other cell phones I've seen, it's VERY nice.
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Anyone have a YouTube link for the video?

Just put it on YouTube. Here is the link.
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Originally Posted by D.Betruger View Post

Those pictures look discolored . Video , too.

Not a very good first post from a new troll. But at least I get to add you to my ignore list now instead of later. Bye.
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having a newborn, i'm very excited about ALWAYS having a decent camera and 720 video with me.

Don't be too excited - you also have to organise all your pictures/movies, AND give your kid some attention ...
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Is everyone looking at the same photos as me?

They're certainly decent for a phone but it's pushing it to say they look anything like the snaps from an SLR. They still have that washed-out look you always get from phone cameras.

I'd like to see some pictures in lower light to make a proper judgement of the camera's quality.
post #16 of 81
awesome quality! in the sunlight no less!
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Just put it on YouTube. Here is the link.

Thanks. I was DLing to add to YT but it was at a crawl. was going to take 30 minutes for that 12MB file.


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Not a very good first post from a new troll. But at least I get to add you to my ignore list now instead of later. Bye.

I understand that a 1st time poster making a negative comment does sound the alarms, but I don't think he's in any way trolling. In his defense, he didn't blast the iPhone itself or its users, and was specific in his reasoning without using hyperbole. I agree with him that the pics look discolored, and just a bit out of focus. He also posted the video to YouTube which is not something a troll tends to do; you're hard pressed to get a relevant link from troll.
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post #18 of 81
I would also like to see some low-light shots to get a sense of how versatile this camera is -- my 3G takes lovely pictures in broad daylight!
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I agree it looks better than any other cell phone i've ever seen, but still it has that like, painting look when you see the images full size. and that bugs me. Although i guess that tends to happen more with the foliage shots (the rocks look better)

but with the video, it barely took any motion to start blurring things. but maybe that's just the dudes hand or something.

either way, I'll be super excited to finally get one. It'll be nice finally having a decent camera that's always with me, on top of a video camera and mp3/video player.
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Here's a pic taken from my 3GS in similar conditions, is the difference really as much as they are making out?



(original pic

post #21 of 81
They remind me of what my LG Dare (which has a Schneider-Kreuznach lens) or Pre Plus (uses DxO image processing to automatically adjust the image) can do; good, but no where near a dSLR folks.
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The reason the photos are washed out (the sky mainly) is probably because these were taken mid-day or early afternoon, which all photographers know is not a good time to take pictures. I'd like to see some taken in the evening/morning to see what it's truly capable of.
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Woah, I want to visit Prague now
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They're certainly decent for a phone but it's pushing it to say they look anything like the snaps from an SLR. They still have that washed-out look you always get from phone cameras.

For me, my friends range from very good photographers, to very amateur. While these photos cannot compare to any good photographer with an SLR, they certainly match many of the amateur photographers who use almost exclusively the automatic settings and don't have a professional flash or terrific eye. It is far above the quality of nearly all the point-and-shoots under $250. There is no doubt this is a very good replacement for most people's base camera, very good for a cell phone, and absolutely decent for any on-the-go shooting. On the other hand, I have no idea how good the video is, as that YouTube video was very compressed. No zoom during video (I don't know if it does) would be disappointing too.
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post #25 of 81
I would also like to see more low light photos (with flash) to see how the images look. After all that is what Steve was pushing when he talked about the camera, low light snap shots.

Any camera phone with a decent 3mp lens can take decent photos outside and in the sunlight.
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Definitely better than most point-and-shoots, but the clouds are blasted. Not gonna replace an SLR any time soon. Still, hugely better than most phone cams.
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Here's a pic taken from my 3GS in similar conditions, is the difference really as much as they are making out?

image: http://blogpress.w18.net/photos/09/08/03/460.jpg

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image: ]http://photos.appleinsider.com/prague-100618-3.jpg

Not referring to the quality of the camera, I quite like the pic you took. Where in England is that? Near the coast, I assume.

I assume these the original pics without them being resized or reduced in size for the web? Would that make a difference with the amount of detail?
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post #28 of 81
Good for a mobile phone / smartphone.

But when you compare it to even a consumer compact it will be lacking, no optical zoom for a start. How it is for macros? How is it in shadow and poor lighting conditions? How does it handle different lighting (inside, outside, sodium, etc)?
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Good for a mobile phone / smartphone.

But when you compare it to even a consumer compact it will be lacking, no optical zoom for a start. How it is for macros? How is it in shadow and poor lighting conditions? How does it handle different lighting (inside, outside, sodium, etc)?

I think some of you are expecting a little too much from a camera phone...
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The reason the photos are washed out (the sky mainly) is probably because these were taken mid-day or early afternoon, which all photographers know is not a good time to take pictures. I'd like to see some taken in the evening/morning to see what it's truly capable of.

I'd like to see some interior shots too, and possibly some night time pics, but that would probably be brutal on any phone.

BTW, these are some pics I took with my Pre Plus, and they look a lot better then these to be honest:
State Capitol rotunda (Sacramento) - it even captured the sky through the top:

Exterior:


Being that these guys are in Prague, I'd rather see pics of historical buildings, etc.

Also, I'm curious what the compression artifacts look like, everything looks great scaled down, but most phones have such small sensors, the pics look pretty bad at full-res. (ie. good for e-mailing and basic web use).
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Not referring to the quality of the camera, I quite like the pic you took. Where in England is that? Near the coast, I assume.

I assume these the original pics without them being resized or reduced in size for the web? Would that make a difference with the amount of detail?

The Scotland-England border on the A1 on the East Coast.

It has been resized for the web yeah, I guess looking at them in the original size would show some difference in quality with 5mp shot from iPhone 4 compared to the 3mp on 3GS?
post #32 of 81
I wouldn't say the pics look "amazing" but they do look REALLY good. One of the main reasons I am upgrading from a 3G is the camera. I can't even do video at present. I plan to have my new phone replace my camcorder and camera for most occasions. It seems like it can do that, other than the obvious storage concerns.
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post #33 of 81
I'm no expert in any area regarding photography, but I do that an image and video has a psychological effect so I don't think can honestly judge the quality of the camera looking at various whole images until we can see side-by-side photos from different cameras shooting the same images and videos.
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The reason the photos are washed out (the sky mainly) is probably because these were taken mid-day or early afternoon, which all photographers know is not a good time to take pictures. I'd like to see some taken in the evening/morning to see what it's truly capable of.

The tree picture looks like sunrise. The shadows are very long and the angle of the sun might explain yellow cast as well.

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I'd like to see some interior shots too, and possibly some night time pics, but that would probably be brutal on any phone.

BTW, these are some pics I took with my Pre Plus, and they look a lot better then these to be honest:
State Capitol rotunda (Sacramento) - it even captured the sky through the top:

Exterior:


Being that these guys are in Prague, I'd rather see pics of historical buildings, etc.

Also, I'm curious what the compression artifacts look like, everything looks great scaled down, but most phones have such small sensors, the pics look pretty bad at full-res. (ie. good for e-mailing and basic web use).

I had no idea the pre plus took such good pictures.

No wonder Palm failed man. They simply didn't advertise stuff like this well enough.
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Here's a more raw copy.

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Here's a pic taken from my 3GS in similar conditions, is the difference really as much as they are making out?



(original pic


Yeah, that's exactly what I was talkin' about - with my 3GS I can take more colorful pics then this.
Maybe that iPhone 4 is just a pre-production model
post #38 of 81
Really, check out the original video file that comes directly from the iPhone rather than the compressed youTube version. It looks remarkably detailed! Bitrate is around 10Mbit/s so it's gonna fill up your storage pretty quick. 64GB would have been great. People are gonna shoot a lot of videos with this.
post #39 of 81
Yes, they're OK for a camera phone. But "stunning?" "Awesome?" Seriously?!

Look at the clouds they're completely blown out. The grass and trees are muddy and have almost no contrast. And this is taken at sunrise! Some of you folks need to get a grip. This is ten year-old 1st generation digital camera quality.

Yes, it's a HUGE step up from my 3G iPhone. But that's not saying much. So I'm not selling my camera gear anytime soon.

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'The tipster said the new glass front and back prevented scratches, though they guessed that the stainless steel perimeter of the device could become scuffed up over time. The report also noted that the device received a GPS signal in a "surprisingly quick" fashion, obtaining a lock "almost immediately." '

One thing is certain after looking at the statement...................................IT's NOT ATT HE'S TALKING ABOUT. I've never heard the words ATT and QUICK CONNECTIVITY in the same sentence.
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