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post #121 of 179
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Originally Posted by pmz View Post

1. I don't believe for a second that there are even as many as half a dozen 4.0 ready apps in the app store. I guarantee you that won't even change, today.

2. All Apps Re supposed to run without the need for modification, but this is an outright lie from Apple, as many apps do not. iTeleport, Air Video, StreamtoMe, Call of Duty, to name a few. There are many more, just from my collection. Probably thousands total.

3. Apps should be ready first. The damn app store should be 4.0 ready before they even flip the switch today, as its completely false advertising. Nothing will work as advertised today, and ill be uselessly complaining to Apple about how they have no concept or concern for what's best. They did this with the iPad when developers had a lukewarm reaction to the SDK, and now it seems 4.0 has failed to garner much attention either. The majority of devs of the 225,000 apps are content to sit tight and count de moné with their 2.2.1 compatible apps.

/rant


How about just being happy to receive a world class upgrade from a world class company FOR FREE! I swear, some people can find pimples on Cupid's butt...
post #122 of 179
Does this get pushed through SW Update or iTunes?
post #123 of 179
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Originally Posted by Solar View Post

Does this get pushed through SW Update or iTunes?

iTunes.
post #124 of 179
Started downloading...
post #125 of 179
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Originally Posted by clochard42 View Post

Started downloading...

Yep! It's here!
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post #126 of 179
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Originally Posted by benice View Post

Apple actually said there was 100 new features in the iOS update so what are the rest?

It still says it on the Apple site and yet this list can only point to about 30 items.

The AppleInsider list highlights major features, and organizes them together in related listings. Each number can include several significant features. That's because AI is presenting the information to be informative, not to impress people with marketing hype.
post #127 of 179
Really? Finally Out?
post #128 of 179
I still cant update

EDIT: ok nm its working
post #129 of 179
Can someone provide the direct IPSW link please?
post #130 of 179
its noon already, where the heck is the update?
post #131 of 179
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Originally Posted by endiana219 View Post

its noon already, where the heck is the update?

Running in my iPhone already.
post #132 of 179
1:10 ET - Just finished downloading via iTunes.

The total size is 366.4 MB and it downloaded at about 3 MB/s - so total download time was under two minutes.

It is being applied now.
post #133 of 179
Downloading just fine here in canada (toronto area)
post #134 of 179
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Originally Posted by nvidia2008 View Post

Can someone provide the direct IPSW link please?

Direct links...
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post #135 of 179
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Originally Posted by endiana219 View Post

its noon already, where the heck is the update?

I pressed the "Update" button in iTunes a bunch of times before it offered to download the update. I'm sure they're throttling this. Patience and repetition will succeed, eventually.

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post #136 of 179
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Originally Posted by nvidia2008 View Post

Can someone provide the direct IPSW link please?

A link anyone??
post #137 of 179
Just checked at 10:12 PST and we're a GO!

flick.
post #138 of 179
It's finally here. Downloading...
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post #140 of 179
Applying Update Now! ahhh excited! the download was very quick.
post #141 of 179
ios4 is LIVE
post #142 of 179
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Originally Posted by Stevie View Post

But isn't the current direction to restrict user choice in favor of a standard UX? I thought that was what you DIDN'T like.

I think you mean that you WANT Apple to change direction, so that you will be able to use "your" machine the way you want to use it, rather than the way that Apple wants you to use it.

If they changed direction, for example, they might allow multitasking on your device, with an option to turn it off. But that is NOT the current Apple way of doing things, nor does it seem to me to be the direction apple is going.

Sorry... Didn't realize you were a troll... You didn't read all of the post did you....My reference to Droid? Google plays favorites with their devices... Had I been a Droid user I would have had to wait 6 months for an update to the OS Nexus One users got out of the box.... I like how Apple has a predictable schdule and you know your product is the best they have to offer for the year (Droid on their THIRD phone in less than a year... Are you a Droid owner? That would certainly frustrate me enough to troll on Apple sites).

Apple is controling, there's no question about that... I really feel like they need to end censorship on the App store....That's always a dangerous road....but having ZERO screening process (such as the Android Marketplace) is also not great in my opinion... I enjoy not having to have virus scanners on my phone.

Enjoy your Droid!
post #143 of 179
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Originally Posted by Rokrad View Post

Applying Update Now! ahhh excited! the download was very quick.

mine said 2 min... now it says 19 min and keeps going up
post #144 of 179
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Originally Posted by swinge View Post

Actually a couple of other things...
  1. All the iPhone 4 hardware issues (FaceTime, video)
  2. Multitasking
  3. No custom wallpaper for home screens, just old black bakground
  4. Can't synch to external Bluetooth keyboards

Personally, I'm a bit dissapointed about that...I currently have a 3GS so it doesn't efffect me, but in thinking about 2011, it bothers me that features are left out...Apple has been so good at giving away 2 years of updates.. I hope they're not planning on changing this.. I would much rather have a sluggish multitasking 3G (or at least have the option of turning it off). I saw jailbroken 2G iPhones multitask just fine...

EDIT: Actually just re-ready the post...I thought you were a 3G user... Answers are still the same... A better deal though...To my knowledge this is the first time they've given the update away to iPod folks.... I think they've usually charged like a $10 fee...

That being said, I'm still a massive fan boy.... CAN'T WAIT to update to iOS 4!! Woooo Hooooo!!!!

Thanks for the info. Is there any reason that you think iPod touch 2nd gen updgraders won't be getting wallpapers? I know this is pretty small but its mystifying as the 2nd gen iPod touch is quite a powerful mini-mini computer... Same goes for multitasking (perhaps a RAM issue?)...
post #145 of 179

Thanks mate. So far downloading on iTunes is alright.
2mbit/sec down... 30 minutes

You lucky bast*rds with fast broadband.

Seriously though, 2mbit is considered good where I am. Over tethered 3G no less.
post #146 of 179
A great thread on the iOS update countdown/ status report on Apple Discussions
http://discussions.apple.com/thread....readID=2468123

Great, as in fun, I guess
post #147 of 179
ITs out!!
post #148 of 179
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Originally Posted by shadow415 View Post

1:10 ET - Just finished downloading via iTunes.

The total size is 366.4 MB and it downloaded at about 3 MB/s - so total download time was under two minutes.

It is being applied now.

I HATE YOU AND YOUR FAST BROADBAND AND YOUR LITTLE DOG, too

Nah, I kid, I kid...
post #149 of 179
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Originally Posted by jesseali View Post

mine said 2 min... now it says 19 min and keeps going up

Use Activity Monitor check your throughput. For me the Apple server delivering the file is stable so far ( current location: Malaysia )
post #150 of 179
8A293 is the same as the Gold Master.

But on the iPod 3G, the GM has no built-in backgrounds.

So the final version really doesn't have any built-in backgrounds?
post #151 of 179
Downloading in the Southeast! Yay!
post #152 of 179
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Originally Posted by freethinker View Post

Thanks for the info. Is there any reason that you think iPod touch 2nd gen updgraders won't be getting wallpapers? I know this is pretty small but its mystifying as the 2nd gen iPod touch is quite a powerful mini-mini computer... Same goes for multitasking (perhaps a RAM issue?)...

I hear you! It's a bummer they chose to do it... My only guess is that they feel it would slow down the processor... Get the iPhone 4! The experience is so different when it's your phone... I use my 3GS almost constantly.
post #153 of 179
Connect your iPhone and click update.

5 minutes later…backing up…less than an hour…wow
post #154 of 179
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Originally Posted by swinge View Post

I hear you! It's a bummer they chose to do it... My only guess is that they feel it would slow down the processor... Get the iPhone 4! The experience is so different when it's your phone... I use my 3GS almost constantly.

argh! i want to hear how you like the 4. then when the 5 comes out i might splurge (though what the hell kind of features will we be seeing in the 5?!?!?!- it feels like Apple has got it all in the 4 already!!!)

cheers
post #155 of 179
FInally, after 38 minutes of download, an error message
post #156 of 179
These improvements are welcome.

Unfortunately there is a GREAT downside of upgrading my iPhone 3G to iOS 4 the device is almost unresponsive now. Voice recorder launches for 12 seconds, SMS application about 10 seconds, Maps also around 10 seconds. After upgrade if I quit Safari, write a message and return to Safari I always see it reload my Page after 10 second delay (It means Safari was purged due to low-memory condition).
I cannot run several games now (they crash) until I switch Push Messaging off freeing some memory.

It is clear the 128MB memory of iPhone 3G is not enough for these new features. Its a pity, because I cannot boast my iPhone 3G to friends now. Its not cool at all that, if you use any application and you need to reply to a SMS you spend 30 seconds for that??? (3 seconds to type the message, 20 seconds waiting application launch and 7 seconds waiting to switch keyboard layout)
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It seems to me the situation is the same as in Apple ads Mac OSX gets faster and faster with each update, until you compare your friends with iBook G4 running Tiger and your Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro with Snow Leopard and you find that amazingly that ancient 5 year old machine does everything way faster! The secret is he did not update it.

You guys keep saying "No reason not to include Wallpapaer, bluetooth keyboard support, etc".
But the reason is probably MEMORY! Actually Apple could not fit the new iOS 4 into 128Mb but they really tried...
post #157 of 179
I was wondering should i upgrade so IOS 4 or wait for the new jailbreak to upgrade?? i already downloaded it just havent installed it yet
post #158 of 179
I've got it too but since I need both jailbreak and unlock, I'm holding off until those better at this than me put together their tutorials.

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post #159 of 179
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Originally Posted by hrissan View Post

You guys keep saying "No reason not to include Wallpapaer, bluetooth keyboard support, etc".
But the reason is probably MEMORY! Actually Apple could not fit the new iOS 4 into 128Mb but they really tried...

I don't see how either could be a significant hit to RAM, but I do agree there is likely a technical reason for it.
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post #160 of 179
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Originally Posted by freethinker View Post

argh! i want to hear how you like the 4. then when the 5 comes out i might splurge (though what the hell kind of features will we be seeing in the 5?!?!?!- it feels like Apple has got it all in the 4 already!!!)

cheers

I'll take a stab at this...

Here is what I would expect on the iPhone 5.

Dual core Apple processor
More RAM (possibly)
Better battery life (Apple is always shooting for this one.)
Further improvements to the camera
5.8GHz on the wireless N (only a maybe on this one)
64 GB model possibly

Now for the wish list... All of the above can be assumed for the wish list too.

Built-in mini SD card slot (micro?)
USB 3.0 interface (much faster transfers/syncs)
Wireless syncing

And can we please finally get a shark with a freakin' laser on it's head?!?! Is that really too much to ask for?
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