Apple announces 3 million iPads sold in first 80 days - Page 4

Which loosely translates into: I know nothing, nada, zilch...

On one hand, there are 3rd-party browsers that can hold multiple pages without reloading.

On the other hand, this does not happen with 8 pages on the iPhone using multiple apps somerunning in te backdround but mostly switching between them.

I don't believe this is by design. I've measured the RAM usage between the 3GS and iPad WiFi, the iPad needs a lot more RAM yet both come with 256MB.

Apple recycles your old computer for free. Just haul it in.

There is a bookmarks bar in Safari on the iPad. I sync mine via MobileMe and it appears when you access the location dialog

Use the same strategy as with TimeCapsule backups. Use a wired connection if you have a lot of data to copy (in this case the USB cable) and use WiFi the rest of the time. Apart from the first sync when you copy your entire library to the device, the typical amount of data been copied is going to be pretty small and easily accomplished over WiFi.

Why not simply count the iPad as what it is; a tablet computer? That way the iPad's marketshare will be many times higher than if it was counted as just a computer.

Quote:

"Users can browse the web, read and send email, enjoy and share photos, watch HD videos, listen to music"

ENJOY and share photos? To ascribe something like "enjoyment" to a product is bias of the worst sort. I know this place doesn't claim to employ journalists, but show a little adult objectivity please. I view photos, and whether I enjoy them is my call. But Apple has not a damn thing to do with that.

Ah! I understand, and I agree! Especially for the iPad which benefits from a wall charger (separate from a computer/iTunes direct connection). It would be beneficial for those devices with WiFi to have a setting to enable wireless synch!

.

In theory, but consider the bandwidth implications of having potentially many gigabytes of files shifting over WiFi networks. The saturation could be total for long periods of time. I think there's a reason why Apple has chosen not to provide this function.

Yes, I think it is a software thing (possibly iOS). I just tried on my 3GS running 4.0-- started posting a comment on a forum, then serially started another window, copy/ pasted from NYTimes, LATimes, WashPost... No problems.

Same thing in iPad worked for NY, LA, then refreshed after Wash-- nothing worth copying, anyway

.

I fully agree and understand with your PoV, but this is Apple, where being first to be first or adding it in a way that doesn't enrich the collective's user experience simply isn't acceptable. When they can feel they have a solution that won't add more cons than pros I think we'll see it, but who knows when that will be.

Frankly, if anything needed to be added to iOS for v4.0 (if not much, much earlier) it's a replacement for the anemic messaging system that offers no history and will only show one message as an overlay providing it's not too long. This is both a surprise to not have been changed at point and also a joke considering the number of messages I get on my iPhone since Push Notifications were added.

I think you're right. When I drag big files (movies) from one Mac on my network to another, it takes forever if I've not plugged them both into the router.

Wow 3 million iPads!

Considering that the average iPad is $600, and Apple makes about 60% profit of off the iPhone platform (lets assume iPad is similar). Thats already over 1Billion profit!

Apple keeps it up and this could be a killer cash cow. They say stocks guna go up to $375!

Yes, I know nada!

But, SJ recognizes opportunity, where others see only failure and frustration.

Also, I suspect that Apple wants to stagger refresh cycles of its major devices, balance resources, growth, etc. It appears that two of Apple's major refresh cycles (announce/ship) are shaping up as:

--iPad: Jan/Feb (FY Q2)

--iPhone May/Jul (FY Q4)

There is an interesting opportunity that will present itself in Jan (if not 2011, then 2012).

.

If that is true (iPad uses more RAM) then it would be relatively easy to fix within Safari, for example:

-- Save the content to SSD when a page is saved (dismissed).
-- When a saved (dismissed) page is redisplayed reload the saved version from SSD, and free the SSD storage
-- When the Current page is reloaded, new URL, link, bookmark its content is cached in RAM, as it is now
-- When you leave/return to Safari, the current page gets saved/redisplayed as above.

So if you want to stay within Safari, save (dismiss) the pafge if you want return to it!

If you leave Safari, the current page will be saved/dismissed for you.

.

Apple already supports Time Capsule backups over WiFi.

I really wish people would stop using that fabricated 60% profit figure.

First of all, even the erroneous reports said it was 60% GROSS MARGIN, not profit. You have to subtract a lot of expenses from GM to get profit.

More importantly, that figure was thrown out by some magazine 'journalist' who didn't have any concept of financial reporting. It came about because when Apple started with the iPhone, they expensed all the costs at time of sale, but accrued the revenues over time. That means that at the time of the initial sale, there was little or no margin or profit, but the profit came in as time passed. This accounting system was based on the then-current interpretation of GAAP rules.

Then the SEC issued new GAAP guidelines that allowed for most or all the revenue to be accrued all at once. At that time, Apple accrued a lot of revenue for phones sold previously. Since most of the expense had already been incurred, the margin was very high, causing the average gross margin for phones at that time to be high - in the 60% range. That does not mean that the normal GM for iPhones is 60%-it is much less by all reports.

If you're looking at your own photos and you don't enjoy them, that's your fault -- not Apple's or the writer's. Besides, one definition of enjoy is "to possess and benefit from" not necessarily to derive pleasure.

Yeah! Apple's GM on the iPad is probably 30-35%! Great, certainly but not 60%! Further, it could be lower, to price the product lower and gain a market foothold. Remember, early rumors had the Apple Tablet priced in the $1,000-$1,100 range.

From what I've read, Apple's aggressive pricing (as well as the product, itself) has forced the competition back to the drawing boards. Likely, the iPad won't see any real competition until late 2011 - early 2012! IMO, HP has the best chance to provide early competition,

Look at it this way: what kind of tablet experience could anyone [else] offer that you would pay $500 to buy?

.

Did you consciously leave out the Touch? iPods get updated about every September, give or take a month, it has been a pattern from before the iPhone. Almost every iPod gets a refresh then, once a year.

Indeed. But have you actually used it? Time Capsule meters data very slowly, which I take it is a deliberate effort to keep demands on bandwidth to a minimum, which is why initial backups take hours to complete. Would such a solution be acceptable for syncing an iPad or iPhone if it involved shifting large amounts of data?

I don't see why not. Remember most of the time you won't be shifting large amounts of data and the few times you are you could still use a USB cable to speed it up.

At the end of the day syncing an iOS device over WiFi is going to be pretty similar to syncing an Apple TV over WiFi (something you can already do).

I wonder how iOS updates will figure in. Major iOS versions are released in June alongside new iPhones. The next iPod touch should come out in September. But what about the next iPad? If the iPad ends up on a 12 month cycle and the iPad2 is comes out in FY Q2 will it still have this year's version of iOS on it (or at most a minor upgrade from the version that we can get today on the iPhone4)?

I have a feeling that small data center in the carolina's may have something to do with this in the future.

Just a hunch, tho.....

Only someone who hasn't ever owned an iPod or iPhone before would have expected to be able to do anything without first syncing with iTunes.

There is nothing special about the iPad and the requirement to activate and sync it with iTunes. Indeed, I went to the food court after I got mine, but while I was eating breakfast it was syncing to my Mac Book Pro

Uh, no - I just went into iTunes and selected the books I wanted and synced them right over. Took one step.

You might want to plug your stuff into iTunes every once in a while. The backup alone would be worth it. Not sounding like someone who enjoys doing things in unnecessarily complicated and convoluted ways is another good reason


Nope, it synced right over with iBooks

To back up all your application data, yes you do.

But don't take my word for it - restore (erase) your iPad and see how much you can restore from Mobile.Me by itself.

Go on. I'll wait


So one stupid act begets the continuation of another? Allot of people drive around without car insurance even though it's mandatory in my state. That doesn't mean I'm going to stop carrying insurance like them.

Supposedly part of being human is being able to learn and grow, and not perpetuate the same mistakes over and over. Granted, someone typically has to be bitten by something at least once before pain motivates them past the common rationalization of "that will never happen to me". Since it's so trivial to plug an iOS device into iTunes, click Sync and walk away, refusal to do so is just being stupidly stubborn.


Again, still waiting for you to do a restore and have all your application data.

Except at this stage in the game, it's highly likely that the average iPad purchaser has a computer, hence the current non-issue.

I agree that as time progresses, and as Apple tries to sell to those who are not in the traditional PC universe, the need for a computer will have to be addressed. Again, I think with their datacenter plans it's plain to see that Apple has at least anticipated this. To assume otherwise would just be silly.

When the "flood" overtakes the 3 million iPads that have already shipped, your point may have some relevance. Of course by then the count on iPads will be even higher.

As of now, it has none whatsoever.


I dunno, all the reviews by non-Android fanbois have shown that flash does dramatically impact performance and battery life. What a shocker!


Growth will continue without flash just fine. If you sincerely believe it will be a substantial hinderance to future Apple growth, you should probably sell your stock.


I think the "Apple control freak attitude" is what makes Apple unique and successful and it would stupid and insane for them to change all because some myopic people who are intolerant of a system that doesn't fit their requirements whine incessantly about how Apple doesn't do things like everyone else.

Well no $#!t they don't do things like everyone else - it's why they have the highest customer satisfaction ratings and largest profit for the smallest market share of anyone else.

If you claim to like Apple and their products yet want them to change to be like everyone else, then you are irrationally conflicted. It doesn't even make sense. If you want something that works like everyone else go buy it from them.

But stop the incessant whining that Apple is different and therefore bad. I (and millions of others) couldn't disagree more.

Bingo - the biggest reason I sync to iTunes regularly is podcasts.

Now if the @^#@ iOS would just sync with iTunes over wifi, I would be golden. So what if it takes four days to sync the entire phone over wifi - I'm highly unlikely to do that anyway! However, syncing content back to my machine and dong the incremental backup could easily be done over wifi. This is one area the Zune smokes the iOS devices.

Why not? Not everyone wants a general purpose computer.

In fact, I'd wager that those who want granular control are in the vast minority.

Do we look down upon people who drive cars who don't change their own oil, brakes, fan belts, etc? Those are all trivial mechanical tasks that can be performed in a modest amount of time. How about looking down your nose at someone who eats in a restaurant instead of cooking at home?

Yet in geek circles your less than human if you can't open an command line and belt out some arcane command line of inconsistent sytax?!?! I don't get the double standard towards the necessity of hands on, low-level knowledge when framed in the context of computing. What's so evil with having a true appliance computer that does a set number of things and does them flawlessly without any technical knowledge required by the end user? Yes Cory Doctorow, I'm looking at you! The Apple gestapo isn't marching into people's houses and annihilating anything that doesn't conform to the iOS or the App store. General computers still exist, and will always exist. The iOS model is simply a new model of computing, not a replacement for all computing. That's why I would find all the hysteria over the iOS and App Store hilarious if it simply wasn't tiresome elitist BS.

If Apple wanted total market domination all they have to do is release the iPhone on Verizon and BOOM! Game over. Think that's overhyped rhetoric? Look at Android sales overseas. Their pathetic compared to the US. Also I've said it before and I firmly believe that now, a good reason Apple isn't really concerned about the iPhone on Verizon is it keeps the FTC and any smokescreen about Monopoly out of their hair. Apple is in the process of building a platform, and that will take some time (look at the evolution of OSX!) The last thing they need is the problem of being too successful and inviting unwelcome and unneeded government meddling.

As others have written, this seems to be some kind of peculiarity in a few cases. It came with my iBooks, and I'm absolutely sure I didn't download it separately because I simply have no interest whatsoever in the book.


I have to agree with Milmoss on this. Those devices are very functionally limited. They don't need to be backed up to a computer because quite frankly, they don't have much to back up. The books obviously come from the stores, which can serve them to you again if you lose them. The annotations aren't much data. There's nothing else. There are no apps. No files you create with apps, like Pages documents or Brushes drawings. No way to load photographs, even if you didn't mind seeing them in monochrome. The same goes for video. No music library. No voice memos. Basically, other than books, there is no other content you can transfer there or create, hence limited functionality and no need for a computer.

What? How often do you sync your entire phone? At most a couple of gigabytes changes on mine.

And it was all downloaded over my wifi from the Internet in the first place

And why are you assuming a wifi sync would happen while I'm on battery? My iPhone sits for at least six hours in the clock by my nightstand charging. It could easily re-sync the entire contents of itself - with g! Forget N!


I seriously hope something as brain dead and overly complicated isn't implemented. Stop trying to save me from myself! What's a "reasonable time" and what the heck does "feasibly handle the sync" mean?!?

A robust sync could happen in the background as soon as I am in wifi range of my house. The only control feature I could see being useful is "Stop sync if batter is less than XX%" where I can set the percentage of battery left. Otherwise, if I am in range of my home wifi, my iPhone, iPad and whatever else iDevice I have should be syncing with my home library!

Everyone else has this, it boggles my mind that Apple still doesn't offer this.

Apple also desperately needs a sync services framework for desktop and iPhone apps to sync. Right now I have about six applications that sync between their desktop version and the iPhone/iPad versions - it's a real pain to have to ensure all the apps are running on my home Mac and then open them on each device to get them synced up. There needs to be a system-wide service on both the desktop and iOS to handle all of this crap in one swoop.

Maybe. That's just my working theory. There must a reason. I don't think Apple's just being stupid.

Actually there doesn't have to be a reason. Usually there is no conspiracy or Apple being stupid. Typically the real reason a feature is missing is nothing more complex than Apple has a limited number of software engineers, a limited amount of time before the deadline and a long list of higher priority features they want to implement first.

I'm just hoping it makes it on the list of features to be implemented in the next version..

Syncing is already slow over USB = 480Mbit. WiFi sync would be slower. It would be nice and convenient though. Truthfully I am more interested in a faster cable such as USB3 or Light Peak.

It's all self explanatory. You've contradicted your own post by stating that it sits for 6 hours in a powered dock on your nightstand yet want it to start as soon as you are within WiFi range of your home. That completely ignores how it could task the phone's processor and battery. What if you were doing other tasks at the time or had only a few percent battery remaining? These have to be considered for a consumer device. You can't just say, "well the user should now better and spend hours a day tinkering with their settings so I can have the freedom to do what I want". Thinking that way is destine for failure.

What you suggest is to make it so "simple" that there are no checks and balances to make sure the backup can happen on the device while still keeping the device useful. How you can't see keeping the device useful during a backup needs to be questioned. I also question your implication that syncing 64GB over 802.11b without it charging simply wouldn't happen because every uses a dock and 802.11n and has already synced it so it's only a minimal sync. That is hypocritical to your other statement that making the system check for for feasibility before syncing iss overly complex.

I'm amazed at how this simple idea of usable features for the majority seems to pass over so many heads. You can look at any of the Android phones to see exactly what uncontrolled features for the sake of having the feature can do to ruin the user experience.

Yeah, I was too lazy to research it-- but thanks for the info! So now we have (for smart mobile devices):


--iPod Touch* Sep-Oct [No announce/ship difference] (FY Q4)

--iPad: Jan/Feb (FY Q2)

--iPhone May/Jul (FY Q4)


I was also too lazy to research regular iPods, Laptops, iMacs, Mac Pros. But, I suspect you can predict that:

-- some laptops are targeted to back-to-school, probably Aug-Sep [No announce/ship difference] (FY Q3)

-- regular iPods* are targeted for the holidays Oct-Nov [No announce/ship difference] (FY Q1)

* iPod Touches tend to echo the features of the most recent iPhone-- and, as such, are proven technology. With regular iPods, there seems to be a pattern that uses back-to-school promos to clear out existing iPod inventory before a refresh-- Buy a Laptop, get a free (regular) iPod. Then, the regular iPod line is refreshed for the holidays.


The others products are less sensitive to the calendar, but tend to have semi-regular refresh cycles.

I suspect that iLife, iWork and MobileMe will tend to have complimentary releases/refreshes on Mac and Mobile in the future-- e.g. A release of Mobile iMovie will be tied to an update to iLife iMovie on the Mac.


I suspect that the iPad and iPhone will continue with separate announce/ship dates because of:

-- FCC Approval Lead Time
-- Secrecy advantage in a very competitive environment
-- New hardware innovations
-- iOS update closely tied to new hardware
-- Developer lead time to update apps

Anyway, my original objective was to determine if there were going to be predictable, annual, technology breakthroughs centered around Mobile. If I were a betting Man, I would look for iPads in January and iPhones in July. This tends to level resources, manufacturing, supply chain, profits, etc. around these 2 major products.

The analysts and pundits, now, seem to be predicting 10 million iPads and 10 Million iPhones for CY 2010... interesting!

The big question: What about 2011?

.

That's a very interesting question. Here's one way to look at it, FWIW:

-- The iPhone will tend to have the hardware feature breakthroughs-- gyro, camera, etc., so I would expect these features to require an iOS version update.

-- The iPad will tend to have software/UI breakthroughs-- enhanced iWork, iLife, so I would expect these to require point updates to iOS.

-- Then, there are things like Accessories, AppleTV, inexpensive smart remotes, WiFi synch, MobileMe enhancements, home server... Something like AppleTV or Home Server might require a temporary fork like the iPad. Others might just be a point update when the device/feature becomes available.

Over time, I suspect all iOS updates to apply to all iOS devices, even if there is nothing in that update that applies to that specific device.

.

Mmmm.... Just 'cause I don't know-- What happens (setup, backup, synch) if you buy a MacBook Air as your first and only computer?

.