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Apple disabled support for some features in iOS 4 to shoehorn the new release into the processing constraints and memory footprint of the 2008 iPhone 3G and second generation iPod touch. Here's what's missing and why.

When running on iPhone 3G, iOS 4 disables multitasking, background wallpapers, Bluetooth keyboard support, and a "data protection" feature. The first generation iPhone and iPod touch can't run iOS 4 at all; those early devices make up less than 10% of the entire number of iOS devices sold (a number that will hit 100 million by the end of June, Apple noted at WWDC).

Apple's three years of OS upgrade support for the first generation models compares favorably with other platforms, where devices are often unlikely to ever see an update. For example, Google's Android OS, which has delivered software updates that are at least on par and often better than most other competing platforms, stopped supporting new updates for the original T-Mobile G1 after a single year.

The HTC myTouch 3G was released in the US less than six months before Android 2.0 was unveiled, but still hasn't received that release yet, let alone the newest 2.2 update, which is currently only available to users of the Google-branded Nexus One. Even many recent Android phones won't be able to update to the latest Android 2.2 right away once it becomes officially available.

Apple has worked to push all of its mobile users to the latest version of the operating system as soon as possible after its release, making it available as a direct download from iTunes rather than relying upon the various mobile operators to distribute it over the air, as Google's Android, Nokia's Symbian, RIM's BlackBerry, HP's webOS, and Microsoft's Windows Mobile platforms have to do.



No multitasking for iPhone 3G in iOS 4

Deactivated support for iOS 4 multitasking on the iPhone 3G is believed to largely be a product of its limited memory; like the original iPhone, it only has 128MB of system RAM. Unlike the first iPhone, Apple continued to sell the model over the past two years, making its support for iOS 4 critical to moving the majority of the installed base to the latest version of the operating system.

Jailbreakers have noted that previous versions of the iPhone operating system could "support multitasking" in the sense of simply working around the app launching boundaries Apple erected. That results in an implementation of multitasking that works more like Android, where there is no effort to regulate how background tasks work in order to conserve battery life.

Apple's new multitasking APIs in iOS 4 enable a variety of background operations, state saving, and notification alternatives that together result in better battery life and largely automatic process management that doesn't require users to manually hunt down and kill rogue or unwanted apps in the background.

Apple's engineers determined that supporting this more sophisticated level of multitasking on models with less RAM than the iPhone 3GS wouldn't work well, so rather than excluding iPhone 3G users from upgrading, they simply turned off multitasking as a feature so users could benefit from the other improvements to iOS 4 (which as a whole also take up more memory than previous versions of the OS).

On page 2 of 2: iOS 4 eats up RAM, No wallpaper, Bluetooth keyboards for iPhone 3G in iOS 4 .

iOS 4 eats up RAM

Developers report that iOS 4 uses a lot of RAM. In an article comment, Hrissan notes, "IÂve looked at the list of processes & their real memory usage in Xcode for my iPhone 3G after launching and quitting a large game (to make iOS free as much memory as possible).

Daemons for features switched off:
 BTServer: 684KB (I have bluetooth off)
 accessory: 550KB (I never use accessories)
 lockdownd: 1.56MB (Monitoring activation status  I have an unlocked
ÂÂ*ptpd: 1.29MB (Tethering, I have tethering off)

Also look at these 2 daemons:
 aosnotifyd: 2.6MB (Mobile.me sync  so much for 1 open socket?)
ÂÂ*dataaccessd: 3.74MB (Exchange calendar sync  oh my God!)

"I love new iOS 4 features, but it seems memory optimization was not the top priority. It is possible even that supporting 3G was decided on the later phase of development."

No wallpaper for iPhone 3G in iOS 4

While the increased memory requirements of iOS 4 multitasking are easy to understand, some have questioned why Apple doesn't support background wallpapers on Home screens. One user who emailed Apple's chief executive Steve Jobs about the issue got a characteristically terse reply (as noted by Gizmodo) stating, "The icon animation with backgrounds didn't perform well enough."

While jailbreakers have been putting background images on the Home page of the iPhone for years, Apple's implementation of wallpapers is more sophisticated, using drop shadows to isolate icons and their text labels from the underlying graphic to improve their appearance and readability. The new iOS 4 also renders shadows under the icon dock.

Apple found that doing this on the significantly slower iPhone 3G resulted in a significant slowdown that made it perform badly enough to simply drop the feature rather than ship something that either looked bad or felt slow and jerky. Jailbreakers report that activating wallpapers on the iPhone 3G under iOS 4 does indeed result in sluggish performance.

No Bluetooth keyboard support for iPhone 3G in iOS 4

Deactivated support for iOS 4's Bluetooth keyboard feature is also a hardware issue. The first two generations of iPhones supplied basic Bluetooth 2.0 support. Starting with the iPhone 3GS, Apple added Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR (Enhanced Data Rate) capable hardware.

The newer specification improves device setup with the "Secure Simple Pairing" mechanism and implements "Extended Inquiry Response," which reduces power consumption in low-power mode.

Enhanced encryption in hardware

Data protection is a new feature in iOS 4 that "enhances the built-in hardware encryption [of the iPhone 3GS and 3rd generation iPod touch] by protecting the hardware encryption keys with your passcode," according to an Apple tech support article.

"This provides an additional layer of protection for your email messages and attachments. Third-party applications can use the data protection APIs in iOS 4 to further protect application data."

The original iPhone and iPhone 3G along with the first two generations of iPod touch lack hardware support for data encryption, so none of them could support the new feature that improves upon it either. The iPhone 3GS' hardware encryption was recently the subject of reports that assailed the feature as "worthless."
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I've been deliberating all day on whether to update my 3G with iOS 4. Hardly seems worth it. Might even slow it down?

Anybody updated 3G with new iOS?
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post #3 of 92
Hmmm why doe it say third generation iPod touch? Mine has all the features offered other than phone features.... Do they mean second generation iPod touch?
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Originally Posted by Mr Underhill View Post

I've been deliberating all day on whether to update my 3G with iOS 4. Hardly seems worth it. Might even slow it down?

Anybody updated 3G with new iOS?

Yes benchmarks have show iOS 4 slows down the 3GS, but remember that the 3G will not get multitasking. You will probably get a slight performance drop, but I doubt Apple would even release it if it was anything notable.
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How, in a measurable and detailed manner, does the iPhone 3G perform under iOS4?

That is the real deal maker/breaker as far as upgrading is concerned.

Omission of features is one clear thing.
Actual performance, of the iPhone 3G under iOS4, is the real knowledge needed.
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Yes benchmarks have show iOS 4 slows down the 3GS, but remember that the 3G will not get multitasking. You will probably get a slight performance drop, but I doubt Apple would even release it if it was anything notable.

I have not noticed a performance decrease... If anything it feels like I actually got an increase in performance on my 3GS. Taking pictures is so much more responsive that it really isn't even close to the slow response I used to get. It looks polished and works great. I certainly recommend to all 3GS users to upgrade.

I too would be curious how it runs on the 3G devices. Apple will probably do some performance tuning in the next minor update if there was performance items that were dropped due to time to market.
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I've been deliberating all day on whether to update my 3G with iOS 4. Hardly seems worth it. Might even slow it down?

Anybody updated 3G with new iOS?

I updated my 3G and the performance is horrific. I have been running 4.0 since the GM was released at WWDC.

- 5-7 seconds to open Messages app
- 6-10 seconds to open iPod app
- 8-10 seconds for camera lens to "open"
- lots of sound studders when running iPod and other alerts (email/sms) happen.
- overall just sluggish.

It reminds me of the 2.0 days when apps first came out and you had to reboot your phone before you play some games without the risk of crashing. After a fresh boot, things aren't to bad, but over the day it gets pretty sluggish.

The only advantage to 4.0 on 3G is folders and "combined" inbox. Everything else is pretty worthless.

I am really hoping 4.01 is out soon and speeds up 4.0 on the 3G, however I can't imagine Apple is too concerned with the older hardware as they want people to buy a new handset

I am not to upset, my 3G has served me well and I will move up to iPhone 4 as soon as I can get my hands on one.


I am not saying you shouldn't upgrade, but be prepared to slow down.
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If you've upgraded you iPhone 3G to iOS 4.0 and want to downgrade due to performance issues, this hint should still work...
http://www.maclife.com/article/howto...e_iphone_os_40
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post #9 of 92
I'm not going to upgrade to 4.0, will wait out for 4.1 or 4.01 hoping that Apple still cares for 3G owners.
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My friend is having issues as well on his 3G. But jeez, do you guys ALWAYS have to go off topic and talk about Android?
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Originally Posted by bslaght View Post

I updated my 3G and the performance is horrific. I have been running 4.0 since the GM was released at WWDC.

- 5-7 seconds to open Messages app
- 6-10 seconds to open iPod app
- 8-10 seconds for camera lens to "open"
- lots of sound studders when running iPod and other alerts (email/sms) happen.
- overall just sluggish.

It reminds me of the 2.0 days when apps first came out and you had to reboot your phone before you play some games without the risk of crashing. After a fresh boot, things aren't to bad, but over the day it gets pretty sluggish.

The only advantage to 4.0 on 3G is folders and "combined" inbox. Everything else is pretty worthless.

I am really hoping 4.01 is out soon and speeds up 4.0 on the 3G, however I can't imagine Apple is too concerned with the older hardware as they want people to buy a new handset

I am not to upset, my 3G has served me well and I will move up to iPhone 4 as soon as I can get my hands on one.


I am not saying you shouldn't upgrade, but be prepared to slow down.

I upgraded my 3G this morning. Opening apps is a little bit slower, but I'm not suffering anything like your numbers. Opening iPod takes less than 3 seconds; about 5-6 seconds for the camera lens to open; Safari is almost instantaneous; about 5 seconds for messages. Email seems to be the worst affected - the new combo inbox definitely feels slow. All in all, I'm pleased with the update.
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Can everyone tell how long it took for them to upgrade or install a fresh version of 4.0 and how responsive it is?

Also does anyone know the field test mode signal strength for 4.0? *3001#12345#*
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iOS 4 is working great on my iPad......the 2 year old products can run it but not the 2 month old ones....nice move Apple. Nice move.
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I updated with iOS4 and I've noticed that the device seems to stutter a little bit. It's never done that before. Also, it feels like it's warmer that is has been before.

Regardless. I've had my 3G for years. It's never needed to be replaced, my battery life is excellent. It's been a real trooper. It just goes to show that your devices will love you when you love them first.

I'm replacing it with an iPhone 4 as soon as I get a chance to buy one, but it's been fantastic and any sluggishness I've experienced in the last few days has not been any actual inconvenience at all.
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I've been deliberating all day on whether to update my 3G with iOS 4. Hardly seems worth it. Might even slow it down?

Anybody updated 3G with new iOS?

Yes and it was probably an annoying mistake. But hopefully I'll receive my new phone in 2 weeks per my confirmation. I'm glad I didn't upgrade my wife's 3G too. I'm the jerk who always upgrades everything the second it's available. Never again.
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I upgraded my 3G this morning. Opening apps is a little bit slower, but I'm not suffering anything like your numbers. Opening iPod takes less than 3 seconds; about 5-6 seconds for the camera lens to open; Safari is almost instantaneous; about 5 seconds for messages. Email seems to be the worst affected - the new combo inbox definitely feels slow. All in all, I'm pleased with the update.

Power your phone off and then back on. I had similar slow (a few seconds) delays in opening apps until I turned it off and back on - and responsiveness is about normal now.

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Can everyone tell how long it took for them to upgrade or install a fresh version of 4.0 and how responsive it is?

Time to upgrade is all over the map. I don't know if it's responsiveness from the server or number of apps or what it is, but some people are reporting quick results and others take longer. Mine was probably about 2 hours (iPhone 3G, Mac Mini).

See above for responsiveness. I haven't tried multitasking because it's just not something I care about on a phone.
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post #18 of 92
I"ve noticed that my 3G is significantly more sluggish after the update. I like the folders, and I like the combined inbox, but I don't know if I'd say it was worth it.
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I have noticed a slight slowdown in opening some apps, no change at all in others. Oddly, most of the apps that have slowed down significantly are Apple apps.

The new iBook app is VERY slow on my 3G, and opening the App Store takes a minimum of 30 seconds to get to the list of Featured apps. The iTunes Store takes 15-20 seconds to load. Safari seems mostly the same, it still crashes every once in a while. Facebook is actually faster, probably because they recently updated the app itself.

But, the Folders and unified Inbox were worth the upgrade for me.
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Originally Posted by Mr Underhill View Post

I've been deliberating all day on whether to update my 3G with iOS 4. Hardly seems worth it. Might even slow it down?

Anybody updated 3G with new iOS?

I have and I also enabled multitasking and wallpapers. It has been problematic. I thought it would clear up after a reboot and as things got loaded in and used, but it hasn't.

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How, in a measurable and detailed manner, does the iPhone 3G perform under iOS4?

That is the real deal maker/breaker as far as upgrading is concerned.

Omission of features is one clear thing.
Actual performance, of the iPhone 3G under iOS4, is the real knowledge needed.

I'm going to give you my numbers for the same things bslaght did below. The icons/wallpaper animation thing noted is indeed there but doesn't bug me. It clearly would bother Jobs though as it is basically Android smoothness instead of iPhone smoothness. The performance has me concerned enough that I was already pondering reloading it all with no multitasking/wallpapers or downgrading.

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I updated my 3G and the performance is horrific. I have been running 4.0 since the GM was released at WWDC.

- 5-7 seconds to open Messages app
- 6-10 seconds to open iPod app
- 8-10 seconds for camera lens to "open"
- lots of sound studders when running iPod and other alerts (email/sms) happen.
- overall just sluggish.

- Messages app open 5.5 sec.
- iPod App open 5.7 sec.
- Camera lens open 4.89 sec.
- Mail opening 3 sec.
- Safari opening and beginning to load page 6.2 secs.

I've played at least two games, Tap Tap Revenge 3.0 and Need for Speed Underground that had severe performance issues.

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If you've upgraded you iPhone 3G to iOS 4.0 and want to downgrade due to performance issues, this hint should still work...
http://www.maclife.com/article/howto...e_iphone_os_40

Thanks for the link. I'm pondering reinstalling 4.0 without the multitasking and wallpapers but since I also lost the use of a couple jailbreak hacks I like, I might go all the way back to 3.1.3.

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I upgraded my 3G this morning. Opening apps is a little bit slower, but I'm not suffering anything like your numbers. Opening iPod takes less than 3 seconds; about 5-6 seconds for the camera lens to open; Safari is almost instantaneous; about 5 seconds for messages. Email seems to be the worst affected - the new combo inbox definitely feels slow. All in all, I'm pleased with the update.

Did you just do a standard update with no wallpapers or multitasking?

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I updated my 3G and the performance is horrific. I have been running 4.0 since the GM was released at WWDC.

- 5-7 seconds to open Messages app
- 6-10 seconds to open iPod app
- 8-10 seconds for camera lens to "open"
- lots of sound studders when running iPod and other alerts (email/sms) happen.
- overall just sluggish.

Mine were about half your figures at first. However, the more I opened them the faster they opened.
  • 2 seconds to open Messages app
  • 0.5seconds to open iPod app
  • 2 seconds for camera lens to "open"
  • no sound studders when running iPod and other alerts (email/sms) happen.

However, I do notice a slight increase in opening the camera when I have playing music in the background, while Safari, maps and mail were immediate.
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Yes benchmarks have show iOS 4 slows down the 3GS,...

3GS? Was that a typo, because I haven't heard of any 3GS users having performance problems...only 3G users. As a matter of fact my 3GS is really fast now that I upgraded. It even made me think for a second of putting off my iPhone 4 purchase.
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So there is really NO REASON for no iOS 4.x for the ORIGINAL iPhone then, since the core specs are the same as the 3G... Apple should AT LEAST update the Safari, iTunes and QuickTime features on the first iPhone just like they do on Mac OS X! \
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iOS 4 is working great on my iPad......the 2 year old products can run it but not the 2 month old ones....nice move Apple. Nice move.

C'mon... that was explained! Apple made a special fork of iOS 3.2 for the iPad, because it was a brand new form factor. As a developer, you need to do things differently (not just double the view size) to take advantage of the additional screen real estate. Someone posted that "Saying the iPad is just a big iPod, is like saying a swimming pool is just a big bath tub!"

The forking allowed both the iPad team and iPhone team to work concurrently, and isolate each from problems incurred by the other.

Then, after both products are out and have settled in, Apple can meld the two iOS requirements to a follow-on release of iOS 4.1. I suspect that will be in Oct 2010, after any new iPod Touches have been released,

That is the only intelligent way to introduce the two [quite] different products in, relatively, the same time period.

Apple learned the lesson: "Don't change everything at once!" with the MobileMe fiasco!

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So there is really NO REASON for no iOS 4.x for the ORIGINAL iPhone then, since the core specs are the same as the 3G... Apple should AT LEAST update the Safari, iTunes and QuickTime features on the first iPhone just like they do on Mac OS X! \

I'd like to see Safari 5 on OS X 10.4.11 but I'll settle for Safari 4.1 and later on when I've got new Intel hardware I'll have Safari 5.
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I've played at least two games, Tap Tap Revenge 3.0 and Need for Speed Underground that had severe performance issues.

I suggest that, if you can endure the performance hit, wait about a week:

-- There are a boatload of app updates in the app store
-- If iOS 4 has major performance hits, I suspect Apple will quickly release a 4.01 upgrade

The success (and reputation) of iOS is key to Apple's future!

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3GS? Was that a typo, because I haven't heard of any 3GS users having performance problems...only 3G users. As a matter of fact my 3GS is really fast now that I upgraded. It even made me think for a second of putting off my iPhone 4 purchase.

As a developer, I have been using iOS 4 on my 3GS for months with no issues at all (except deprecated AIOs).

It has performed well and has been rock solid!

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Power your phone off and then back on. I had similar slow (a few seconds) delays in opening apps until I turned it off and back on - and responsiveness is about normal now.



Time to upgrade is all over the map. I don't know if it's responsiveness from the server or number of apps or what it is, but some people are reporting quick results and others take longer. Mine was probably about 2 hours (iPhone 3G, Mac Mini).

See above for responsiveness. I haven't tried multitasking because it's just not something I care about on a phone.

When I update to iTunes 9.2 the sync took over an hour due to some reason it reloaded my star trek videos. Then when I did the iOS 4 update took about 20 minutes.
Why iTunes reloaded my star trek videos I do not know.
As for the new features, meh, none of these new features are big wows. Especially multitasking, the apps have to be updated. But if they're not updated, they still show up on the task bar or whatever they call it. This seems like a fail to me if it isn't really multitasking why show it there. So to shut it down you have to select all (make them wiggle) those apps on the task list and pick the one you want closed. IMO seems like a poor implementation. What does everyone else think?
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I upgraded my 3G this morning. Opening apps is a little bit slower, but I'm not suffering anything like your numbers. Opening iPod takes less than 3 seconds; about 5-6 seconds for the camera lens to open; Safari is almost instantaneous; about 5 seconds for messages. Email seems to be the worst affected - the new combo inbox definitely feels slow. All in all, I'm pleased with the update.

Same here. Actually some actions are SNAPPIER, while most are as they used to be, and a few are slower.

There are some benchmarks out there that show that 4 makes 3GS WAY faster, and is a mixed bag on 3G.


(Oh, and the "memory usage" stats mentioned in the article are useless).
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I've been deliberating all day on whether to update my 3G with iOS 4. Hardly seems worth it. Might even slow it down?

Anybody updated 3G with new iOS?


I have a corporate iPhone and, after 2 days of trying to log into the Apple server, I was finally successful.

Whole process to upgrade to iOS 4 took about two hours. Some parts of the upgrade process were very slow, like "Backing up iPhone". The progress bar showed one green chicklet and stayed there while I went for lunch. When I got back it had advanced to three chicklets. yawn!

Eventually the upgrade process resored my phone to the original factory settings. Yikes, all my apps are gone! It eventually downloaded them from my backup on the PC.

The phone seems to run fine after the upgrade. The dock looks different and the unified Inbox is cool. I don't see any spellchecking in my email ( I thought it was supposed to give me that). I'll need to play around with it for a couple more days to judge how it performs, but so far web surfing and checking emails is the same.
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I suggest that, if you can endure the performance hit, wait about a week:

-- There are a boatload of app updates in the app store
-- If iOS 4 has major performance hits, I suspect Apple will quickly release a 4.01 upgrade

The success (and reputation) of iOS is key to Apple's future!

Speaking of the devil there, an update for one of those two apps just popped up and when played, it did indeed do better.

However Apple's rep and the performance of iOS 4 isn't going to be judged by the actions of guys like me who are basically taking the phone and attempting to make it do things they said it ought not do related to performance issues. The performance on Tap Tap Revenge was very close. It had the occasional hiccup and since I have the minimum config with wallpapers and multitasking enabled, those hiccups are likely on me at this point and not on Apple or the TapTap folks.

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I've noticed my 3G, still on 3.13, has been getting a lot slower over the last month or two. This seems to happen with every release: it's new and it's very responsive and you go "Wow, they fixed it and sped it up!" Then after a few weeks it gets sluggish again. And Buggy. And sometimes Crashy. I don't get it. I doubt it's intentional, but who knows?

I hope it doesn't have anything to do with me having album art on my nearly 8 gigs of music (16 gig phone), because that's really useful to me when I play it in my dock in my car. Some people have faster phones than others perhaps. Or maybe I leave too many pages open in Safari. Or maybe because I had an unlocked and jail broken 2G and then migrated to the 3G that I never unlocked or jailbroke. Could that slow it down?

Seems to me iOS 4 may be geared toward the 3GS and the 4 with the 3G as an afterthought. Probably was only added to the 3G for marketing reasons, since it has pretty much the same specs as the original (processor too?). I'll have to mess with a 4 before I buy one. I'd really like a different carrier and I tend to run into a lot of flash sites as a photo/video/media guy, so I'd like that too. Enough to switch? I don't know yet. The 4 looks pretty slick though.
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Upgrade took a bit less than 2 hours (not including download of the iOS 4.0), backup was very slow and restore was very slow because it restores everything, even music

At first it seemed to lag A LOT but with use the speed seemed to increase, and is now stable and snappy.

HOWEVER: My battery used to last about 18 hours (I have WiFi off most of the time, but did use it a bit, like always; 3G off always with my country's cell network there is no real difference between 3G and EDGE; BlueTooth usage about 2 hours [for earphones] and off the rest of the time, like normal)

With iOS 4 battery died completely after about 10 hours (hard to say since I unplugged at 5:30 am, noticed the decrease in battery and plugged in for about 30 minutes mid-day because of an expected long day at work and finally died at about 6:30 pm)

I hope that after charging (again) tonight, tomorrow this will either: stabilize or confirm less (about 30% less) battery life

It would suck to give up battery life for olders and unified Mailbox

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post #34 of 92
Why the heck are these

Daemons for features switched off:
BTServer: 684KB (I have bluetooth off)
accessory: 550KB (I never use accessories)
lockdownd: 1.56MB (Monitoring activation status I have an unlocked
ptpd: 1.29MB (Tethering, I have tethering off)

Also look at these 2 daemons:
aosnotifyd: 2.6MB (Mobile.me sync so much for 1 open socket?)
dataaccessd: 3.74MB (Exchange calendar sync oh my God!)

Running even if i have the bloody features turned off?

You could save 8.8MB Memory if these are off. On a 128MB Memory 3G that is a lot....
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I've been deliberating all day on whether to update my 3G with iOS 4. Hardly seems worth it. Might even slow it down?

Anybody updated 3G with new iOS?

Yep - works fine. It's not any slower.
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I'm not going to upgrade to 4.0, will wait out for 4.1 or 4.01 hoping that Apple still cares for 3G owners.

We have 3Gs and 3G and the 3G is fine with 4 I have seen no problems so far.
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Just tried out my spellchecker in the e-mail app on my 3G. I typed in a sentence with various misspellings. Check this out:

I typed in the word "spellchek". The word was underlined in red to flag an error. I tapped on the word to correct it and the software said "No Replacements Found".
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Just tried out my spellchecker in the e-mail app on my 3G. I typed in a sentence with various misspellings. Check this out:

I typed in the word "spellchek". The word was underlined in red to flag an error. I tapped on the word to correct it and the software said "No Replacements Found".

JFYI: Tried same word using Mail and Snow Leopard on my Mac Pro and 'spellchek' was underlined and the suggestion was 'sepulcher'. Perhaps your test was not in depth enough to judge iOS 4 by?
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I'm not going to upgrade to 4.0, will wait out for 4.1 or 4.01 hoping that Apple still cares for 3G owners.

That is probably wise. After some time with the new install on my 3G I am kind of wishing I had waited. It definitely feels sluggish. At first it didn't seem so bad but now with after I have spent some time with it I have run into several spots where response is slow.

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That is probably wise. After some time with the new install on my 3G I am kind of wishing I had waited. It definitely feels sluggish. At first it didn't seem so bad but now with after I have spent some time with it I have run into several spots where response is slow.

-kpluck

Can you be specific, my 3G seems fine and been running since the update was first out. I played all day with it. In fact it seems better in places. I have tons of apps, books and music too. I wonder what is slowing yours perhaps I haven't tried whatever it is yet. Thanks.

p.s. Your footer is missing other great miss direction quotes from SJ e.g. "Who wants to watch a movie on a small screen?"
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