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New iPhone 4 devices plagued with a yellow discoloration of the screen could be the result of a temporary problem that will alleviate itself in a matter of days.

User austingaijin on the AppleInsider forums said today that theyw ere involved in pitching the Z-6011 bonding agent to Apple that is found in the iPhone 4. The material is used to bond the layers of glass in the device during the assembly of the hardware.

"Apple is using a bonding agent called Organofunctional Silane Z-6011 to bond the layers of glass," austingaijin wrote. "Apparently, Apple (or more likely Foxconn) is shipping these products so quickly that the evaporation process is not complete. However, after one or two days of use, especially with the screen on, will complete the evaporation process and the yellow 'blotches' will disappear."

Users began to report on Wednesday that the Retina Display on their new iPhone 4 has a discoloration in the bottom corners of its screen. On those affected units, the screen's corner has a warm yellowish tint to it.
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Sounds like we will need an update next week to see if the people who had this issue see it go away?
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I wonder what the chicken heads will say then if this is indeed the case.
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I wonder what the chicken heads will say then if this is indeed the case.

My guess is that the chickenheads will say the following (or something similar to):

"Ohh my God!! Where's my body?!?"




Or I might be confused, what's a chickenhead exactly?
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I wonder what the chicken heads will say then if this is indeed the case.

Hopefully it is, but it's still probably quite annoying for those affected.
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I had(have) a feeling it was(is) the bonding agent though I have no knowledge of its chemical make-up to know whether or not it will clear due to evaporation. If it clears, whew, bullet dodged. But if not, whoa man, that's a ton of screens already produced that at permanently borked and some serious damage control Apple will have to face for its biggest iPhone launch to date.

Here's to hoping that it all works itself out.

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I wonder what the chicken heads will say then if this is indeed the case.

You won't be able to hear about it anyways because of antenna reception problems.
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I had(have) a feeling it was(is) the bonding agent though I have no knowledge of its chemical make-up to know whether or not it will clear due to evaporation. If it clears, whew, bullet dodged. But if not, whoa man, that's a ton of screens already produced that at permanently borked and some serious damage control Apple will have to face for its biggest iPhone launch to date.

EVEN IF the affected phones have to be replaced, there's no way of knowing how this will impact Apple because NO ONE IS SAYING WHAT PERCENTAGE OF PHONES ARE AFFECTED.

Like any electronic device (nearly any item you buy, for that matter), some percentage are defective. If the normal defect rate for cell phones is 1% and the iPhone 4 failure rate is less than 1%, then it's not a problem - no matter how many bloggers try to make it one.

If, OTOH, the normal defect rates for cell phones is 1% and for the iPhone 4 it's 5%, then it's a problem and needs to be addressed.

So far, no one has given any indication that it's a frequent enough problem to be a concern. But "the sky is falling" generates a lot more hits than "a very small number of Apple phones appear to have a cosmetic defect which goes away after a few days".
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EVEN IF the affected phones have to be replaced, there's no way of knowing how this will impact Apple because NO ONE IS SAYING WHAT PERCENTAGE OF PHONES ARE AFFECTED.

Whew! The Apple Defence Force arrives to save the day!
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So far, no one has given any indication that it's a frequent enough problem to be a concern. But "the sky is falling" generates a lot more hits than "a very small number of Apple phones appear to have a cosmetic defect which goes away after a few days".

Exactly. Some of the complainers here don't even have a device yet with which to see if there really is an issue for them. Rabid, frothing foaming at the mouth for no real reason (except FUD).
post #11 of 55
"Evaporation of bonding agent" yeah right - more like the chemical used to establish the reality distortion field being absorbed into your bloodstream...
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the yellowing is from the tears of foxconn workers that haven't fully evaporated yet.
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Or I might be confused, what's a chickenhead exactly?

It's a band that one of the guys at work is the drummer of.
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When were these phones made if the residue still isn't dry? Why in the world is Apple shipping phones that aren't even out of the manufacturing cycle completely? I'd hate to think what could happen down the road if internal residue wasn't dry and you started using the device. Yikes.
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It's just the CRT with a magnetic interference problem. Degauss the iPhone and all will be well.
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the yellowing is from the tears of foxconn workers that haven't fully evaporated yet.

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Yea no sh*t, 20 plus years of using Mac's and we users had something to fight for because we really did have a superior product.

Now?

I don't know - and neither do you.

Until there are some figures on the frequency of defects, all the people whining are simply playing Chicken Little.
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post #18 of 55
Plagued as in "a widespread affliction". I think you guys feed on your own stew. One person has an issue, 2 bloggers report it then 4, 8 16 (you see where I am going) and suddenly there is a plague amongst us. I have personal knowledge of 5 new iphones w/o the problem.
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Exactly. Some of the complainers here don't even have a device yet with which to see if there really is an issue for them. Rabid, frothing foaming at the mouth for no real reason (except FUD).

How the hell else do you expect Anti-Apple campaigns and pro Google/Android campaigns to work?

They aren't going to put ads in newspapers.

They're going to hit the forums.
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iPhone 4s screen is self-healing.
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the yellowing is from the tears of foxconn workers that haven't fully evaporated yet.

Surely they have a policy against crying since Foxconn supplies water to their employees and copious tears would just add to their operating expense.
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Surely they have a policy against crying since Foxconn supplies water to their employees and copious tears would just add to their operating expense.

Actually, Foxconn is pretty generous in this department. Each worker is afforded three 5 minute crying breaks per shift.

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The sky needs to fall on Apple, they have turned evil and greedy.

Turned? I love Apple as much as anyone else here, but let's be honest with each other, Apple is an American corporation set to make as much money as they possibly can. Unlike other companies, they believe the best way to do that is to put the user experience above everything else, but don't think they haven't been in it for the money since day one.
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The sky needs to fall on Apple, they have turned evil and greedy.

You mean the Vatican?
It has its head already in the heavens!

Apple is tiny ( ask Mr. Balmer ), how can it be evil?
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

I wonder what the chicken heads will say then if this is indeed the case.

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Hopefully it is, but it's still probably quite annoying for those affected.

We have much more pressing things to be annoyed about than some stupid gadget. Like the Gulf oil spill maybe?
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the yellowing is from the tears of foxconn workers that haven't fully evaporated yet.

You mean the same Foxconn workers who built your Droid?
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the yellowing is from the tears of foxconn workers that haven't fully evaporated yet.

Foxconn workers are now evaporating?

Evaporating people...
Foxconn...
Fox Mulder...
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You mean the same Foxconn workers who built your Droid?

I bet Foxconn didn't make my cheap ass phone that just talks/texts and doesn't waste your life with useless apps.

All those "free" apps are really costing you $360 extra a year in data fees. A simple GPS unit with no monthly fees along with a regular phone replaces just about all the important functionality of data phones, which is finding places on the go.

I guess I'm in the minority of people who don't care to be bothered with checking stupid emails or getting Facebook/Twitter updates every 10 minutes.

And no, I'm not 70 years old, I'm in college.

I'm not sure why I decided to reply to this with an anti-smartphone rant, but I guess I'll go with it. Maybe someday carriers won't charge us triple for using one product, then I'll jump on the bandwagon (there's no reason to have to pay separate for text, voice, and data. It's all digital, and it's all data. VOIP services that work on phones like the N900 cost practically nothing)
post #29 of 55
Apple does not make products with defects.

What people are seeing is normal, a result of the manufacturing process.

I'm talking about case cracks in the G4 Cube, btw...
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I have these same marks on my 1st gen iPhone and they don't go away, it's the lights behind the screen, it has even caused bubbles in the glass on the right side.
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I bet Foxconn didn't make my cheap ass phone that just talks/texts and doesn't waste your life with useless apps.

All those "free" apps are really costing you $360 extra a year in data fees. A simple GPS unit with no monthly fees along with a regular phone replaces just about all the important functionality of data phones, which is finding places on the go.

I guess I'm in the minority of people who don't care to be bothered with checking stupid emails or getting Facebook/Twitter updates every 10 minutes.

And no, I'm not 70 years old, I'm in college.

I'm not sure why I decided to reply to this with an anti-smartphone rant, but I guess I'll go with it. Maybe someday carriers won't charge us triple for using one product, then I'll jump on the bandwagon (there's no reason to have to pay separate for text, voice, and data. It's all digital, and it's all data. VOIP services that work on phones like the N900 cost practically nothing)

So you just waste your life here, posting about things you don't own. SO MUCH BETTER! I hope your mom sends you 20 extra dollars this month, according to the commercial pizza hut has 10 dollar pizzas and college kids love them.
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So you just waste your life here, posting about things you don't own. SO MUCH BETTER! I hope your mom sends you 20 extra dollars this month, according to the commercial pizza hut has 10 dollar pizzas and college kids love them.

Well, that post took me about 3 minutes to write, and I enjoyed writing it because that's what happened to be on my mind. I'm a AppleInsider user since 2004 and a big Apple fan (specifically, Macs); I do own an iPod touch and therefore have firsthand experience on how useless much the extra functionality of the iPhone really is compared to just owning a touch. I've written a lot of praise for the iPhone but I could never justify the cost. I mean, for example, basically every McDonald's in America now has free WiFi at this point (provided by AT&T, perhaps ironically), so if you are traveling, what do you actually need the data plan for? Roads like Rt. 90 through NY have free WiFi at every rest stop. I could go on...

(The Pizza Hut $10 deal sucks. On the rare occasion I eat pizza, I always get Little Caesars Hot-N-Ready $5 pizzas at college, which even taste better IMO. $10 + delivery fee + tip = around $15 for a large...not really a deal at all. Just like $30/month data rates.)

I should look into AT&T's new variable price structure, but I doubt it's a better deal. Telecom companies don't give us better deals without provocation.

Sprint and T-Mobile (if you live in a city where T-Mobile is decent) offer better rates than AT&T and Verizon. The iPhone may be in my future when it is on more than one network so that we can have some healthy competition.

I didn't mean to flame the iPhone, unlike how you meant to insult me, I meant to put things in perspective here: before you buy something because it's cool or because it does something mildly convenient, I think people tend to forget how much our commercial society tried to convince us we need something that doesn't really increase our quality of life. I see you have taken Pizza Hut's suggestions to heart. For $10, I can make myself a complete steak dinner or buy myself a pound of huge sea scallops, but Pizza Hut would like to convince you to buy some flour, cheap tomato sauce, and cheese instead.

Case in point: I have played with the iPad multiple times in store, but have yet to figure out what someone could actually use it for besides toying around with it. And a toy it is; even the search function of kotaku.com didn't work because the iPad didn't have a proper browser, never mind the lack of extension and plugin support. Even with the big screen, no tabbed browsing? I have to fumble through browser windows like IE6? Who would buy a $500 device that didn't come close to matching the functionality of a $300 netbook...unless it was a toy? Sure, the interface is innovative, but it's ruined by the lack of powerful functionality.

Also, EBooks are stupid, they don't cost much less than print, and the whole point of a book is that you don't need to worry about electricity to enjoy yourself. I can get books for free at the library! $500 + the cost of books...no thanks.

There's a reason why Blackberries and PocketPCs were popular far before consumer smartphones. Business users were willing to tolerate the costs and disadvantages of this bleeding edge technology because they actually need it to increase productivity. Today's smartphones are nothing but Facebook and Farmville machines on the go.

Well, there's probably a lot more I could say, but I've let my consciousness stream for too long. I guess having a negative opinion in any way about an Apple product that I have tried and don't want to own qualifies me for insults based on college-kid stereotypes.


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Edit: As Steve would say, one more thing...Facetime requires WiFi! That's insulting. I already have a laptop with a webcam. Wake me up when we get real cell phone video calling. Apple needs another network.
post #34 of 55
"said today that theyw ere involved" - you might want to run a simple spell check before posting an article.
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People were already reporting the problem going away in the Apple support forums last night. Fortunately mine doesn't show any screen problems at all.

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the yellowing is from the tears of foxconn workers that haven't fully evaporated yet.

Bah!

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the yellowing is from the tears of foxconn workers that haven't fully evaporated yet.

Foxconn workers are a bunch of cry babies and pussies. They are lucky to have a job. This is not slavery. If they don't like the work. QUIT and go learn how to farm.
post #38 of 55
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the yellowing is from the tears of foxconn workers that haven't fully evaporated yet.

Problem should self-correct quickly then. They all got a raise last week.
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I have these same marks on my 1st gen iPhone and they don't go away, it's the lights behind the screen, it has even caused bubbles in the glass on the right side.
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Different glass, different type of screen and much more have nothing in common, other than color, to your scenario.
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lkrupp: i don't own a droid. i got a couple of iphones today [my 4th and my wife's 1st], and if i could have paid twice as much for phones made in the United States i would have.

sailor paul: i'm just trying to remind everyone here that their shiny new toys are made by workers whose salaries more than DOUBLED, which may sound sweet, until you realize that it's the equivalent of going from $131 USD per MONTH to $291 USD/month - roughly $1.15 per hour. would you work for that pay in a factory where you stand and do the exact same task twenty thousand times a day?

bunnyturd: unless you have real knowledge of the working conditions in china don't say they have a choice... and trying to farm in Shenzhen is like trying to farm in Manhattan. the population density there is insane.
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