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post #321 of 444
6/25/10 at 12:32pm
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post #322 of 444
6/25/10 at 12:33pm
At least in MY case. Am in Los Angeles. I could NOT re-create this issue without the bumper. I have NO issue of signal blocking and here are MY pics to PROVE it. For me this just sounds like either some handset issue or good ol ATT. This phone is PHENOMENAL and those how have it and have used FACE TIME know this. The iOS 4 is awesome and plenty awesome on the 3GS i might add. These anti apple people are PAID SHRILLS. This product is so popular so fast it is literally causing OH SHIT reactions all over the world. What ONE brand has been able to build up so much interest in one new product without running ONE AD of advertisement? It just goes to show you how BIG apple has become. And btw any of you haters can go get TWO DROIDS for the price of one, less than a few months after their release. Doh! That sounds like a FIRE SALE to me.

By the way... The only thing I was pissed at when I got home from picking up my i4 was that I could not connect it to my G5. I am still running Tiger, and i4 is not supported! Called Apple and they overnighted me a FREE full version of Leopard, all at no cost. Try "calling" Google for service on your DROID, wait, I just realized their is NO PHONE SUPPORT at Google. Doh.





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post #323 of 444
6/25/10 at 12:36pm
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Originally Posted by justflybob View Post

Nice to finally see some sane posters in this thread.

So the sane posters are the ones whose phones work well for them? Conversely people like Robert Scoble (Scobleizer), Neven Mrgan (Panic), Marco Arment (Instapaper & Tumblr), Craig Hockenberry (Icon Factory & Twitterrific), the Macworld Staff, Cnet & Peter Cohen (Loop In Sight) are all insane?
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post #324 of 444
6/25/10 at 12:38pm
You know it's a bad day for Apple when the astroturfers descend upon the AI forums to dispense Apple's version of reality. Nothing like joining in June for that extra PR punch to quell any complaints.

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Originally Posted by gijoeinla View Post

At least in MY case. Am in Los Angeles. I could NOT re-create this issue without the bumper. I have NO issue of signal blocking and here are MY pics to PROVE it. For me this just sounds like either some handset issue or good ol ATT. This phone is PHENOMENAL and those how have it and have used FACE TIME know this. The iOS 4 is awesome and plenty awesome on the 3GS i might add. These anti apple people are PAID SHRILLS. This product is so popular so fast it is literally causing OH SHIT reactions all over the world. What ONE brand has been able to build up so much interest in one new product without running ONE AD of advertisement? It just goes to show you how BIG apple has become. And btw any of you haters can go get TWO DROIDS for the price of one, less than a few months after their release. Doh! That sounds like a FIRE SALE to me.
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post #325 of 444
6/25/10 at 12:38pm
Ok instead of sitting in one place and complain i spent the last 2 hours going around town and here is what I found.


1. The Bars do not always drop in specific locations on the outside and Inside
2. The Bars always drop in specific locations on the outside and Inside


This leads me to believe this is a combination of Antenna Interference and AT&T. It seems Gruber MIGHT BE right that wherever there is 'spotty' 3G coverage, the bars will drop and that is what was happening. I was at a location in front of a hospital and held the iPhone in my left hand with no bars dropping, i cupped the phone so that the entire lower left half of the iPhone is touching my hand and still the bars were at 5.

Now I am not sure about all spotty coverage because I went to another location in front of a mall where I saw 5 bars, i took the phone in my left hand and the bars started to drop.

This is confusing.
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post #326 of 444
6/25/10 at 12:39pm
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Originally Posted by str1f3 View Post

So the sane posters are the ones whose phones work well for them? Conversely people like Robert Scoble (Scobleizer), Neven Mrgan (Panic), Marco Arment (Instapaper & Tumblr), Craig Hockenberry (Icon Factory & Twitterrific), the Macworld Staff, Cnet & Peter Cohen (Loop In Sight) are all insane?

Short answer: yes.
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post #327 of 444
6/25/10 at 12:39pm
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

That can't be true because that would mean there is no design flaw and they'd have to admit their reasoning was fallacious, so it has to be a problem with that only affects the iPhone 4 and all iPhone 4s or they risk having to admit to themselves they didn't think or act rationally. That isn't likely to happen with people who are not ratiocinative.

You are just being obtuse. Look at how the 3GS was being held. His hand covered half of the back and he had to squeeze so hard that his fingers cover half of the screen. Compare that to the iPhone 4 videos where the phone is resting comfortably in the left hand with only about 2 inches of the left side touching the inside thumb and palm.

You are just being factious because you know it has been demonstrated and re-demonstrated that all it takes is a finger to crash the signal on the iPhone 4, but you crow about a 3GS being ham fisted as if you have proved a point.
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post #328 of 444
6/25/10 at 12:40pm
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Originally Posted by veblen View Post

Additionally, the iphone 4G passed the ever important Jimmy Fallon test, so how much worse can the reception be?

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/25/t...ng-less-calls/

Jimmy hold it differently in that picture than most people I've seen.

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post #329 of 444
6/25/10 at 12:41pm
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Originally Posted by str1f3 View Post

So the sane posters are the ones whose phones work well for them? Conversely people like Robert Scoble (Scobleizer), Neven Mrgan (Panic), Marco Arment (Instapaper & Tumblr), Craig Hockenberry (Icon Factory & Twitterrific), the Macworld Staff, Cnet & Peter Cohen (Loop In Sight) are all insane?

Not insane, but look at my pics man. Explain why I have NO ISSUE at all. Yes there are tons of DEAD ATT zones in Los Angeles. So far my i4 works FLAWLESSLY. Am I insane then? Doh! And, this thread has about 300 posts, some of which 30 are from the same poster, hardly an avalanche of reports on this issue considering over ONE MILLION or more picked one of these puppies up yesterday.
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post #330 of 444
6/25/10 at 12:43pm
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Originally Posted by Katonah View Post

Exactly. Apple is under fire because they are, well.... IMMENSELY SUCCESSFUL!

The bigger you get, the more you get attacked.

That's a load of crap. Apple are a great company, but they just made a super-blunder. And what's worse they are saying the solution is to hold it differently. The whole thing stinks, and Apple need to fix the phone, not it's user-base.

There are many loyal Apple users on this forum who don't like this. The truth is staring you in the face but you don't want to face it. Utter crap.

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post #331 of 444
6/25/10 at 12:43pm
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Originally Posted by gijoeinla View Post

Not insane, but look at my pics man. Explain why I have NO ISSUE at all. Yes there are tons of DEAD ATT zones in Los Angeles. So far my i4 works FLAWLESSLY. Am I insane then? Doh! And, this thread has about 300 posts, some of which 30 are from the same poster, hardly an avalanche of reports on this issue considering over ONE MILLION or more picked one of these puppies up yesterday.

Move along, astroturfer, there's nothing to see here. Move along.
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post #332 of 444
6/25/10 at 12:43pm
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Originally Posted by gijoeinla View Post

At least in MY case. Am in Los Angeles. I could NOT re-create this issue without the bumper. I have NO issue of signal blocking and here are MY pics to PROVE it. For me this just sounds like either some handset issue or good ol ATT. This phone is PHENOMENAL and those how have it and have used FACE TIME know this. The iOS 4 is awesome and plenty awesome on the 3GS i might add. These anti apple people are PAID SHRILLS. This product is so popular so fast it is literally causing OH SHIT reactions all over the world. What ONE brand has been able to build up so much interest in one new product without running ONE AD of advertisement? It just goes to show you how BIG apple has become. And btw any of you haters can go get TWO DROIDS for the price of one, less than a few months after their release. Doh! That sounds like a FIRE SALE to me.

By the way... The only thing I was pissed at when I got home from picking up my i4 was that I could not connect it to my G5. I am still running Tiger, and i4 is not supported! Called Apple and they overnighted me a FREE full version of Leopard, all at no cost. Try "calling" Google for service on your DROID, wait, I just realized their is NO PHONE SUPPORT at Google. Doh.

dude, seriously? I'm was more excited than a kid in a candy store to order this thing and I can't load web pages while holding it. It's widespread.

I can't believe I'm saying this to someone else, but.......stop being an Apple fanboy. If Apple is truly the company that you think they are, they'll fix this without handing out free bumpers.
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post #333 of 444
6/25/10 at 12:44pm
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Originally Posted by gijoeinla View Post

At least in MY case. Am in Los Angeles. I could NOT re-create this issue without the bumper. I have NO issue of signal blocking and here are MY pics to PROVE it. For me this just sounds like either some handset issue or good ol ATT. This phone is PHENOMENAL and those how have it and have used FACE TIME know this. The iOS 4 is awesome and plenty awesome on the 3GS i might add. These anti apple people are PAID SHRILLS. This product is so popular so fast it is literally causing OH SHIT reactions all over the world. What ONE brand has been able to build up so much interest in one new product without running ONE AD of advertisement? It just goes to show you how BIG apple has become. And btw any of you haters can go get TWO DROIDS for the price of one, less than a few months after their release. Doh! That sounds like a FIRE SALE to me.

By the way... The only thing I was pissed at when I got home from picking up my i4 was that I could not connect it to my G5. I am still running Tiger, and i4 is not supported! Called Apple and they overnighted me a FREE full version of Leopard, all at no cost. Try "calling" Google for service on your DROID, wait, I just realized their is NO PHONE SUPPORT at Google. Doh.






Why would you go through all that trouble? No one is claiming that every phone is affected..

Do you think you were going to settle the debate?
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post #334 of 444
6/25/10 at 12:45pm
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Originally Posted by g3pro View Post

You know it's a bad day for Apple when the astroturfers descend upon the AI forums to dispense Apple's version of reality. Nothing like joining in June for that extra PR punch to quell any complaints.

Enjoy the Kool-aid!

Ya, sure I drank my i4 all the way home, doh. I've been in the apple family for 20 years buddy. hardly new to the arena. dont have sour grapes over someone showing a FAIL to the comments that Apple is over and the i4 is DOA.

It's weird how anecdotal evidence has such a strange effect on haters, shrills, and trolls.

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post #335 of 444
6/25/10 at 12:46pm
is it just me, or do these "bumpers" remind anyone of those crazy colorful "Swatch Watch" Guards that were so popular in the 80's?

Just saying...
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post #336 of 444
6/25/10 at 12:46pm
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Originally Posted by 2oh1 View Post

Weird. I can't replicate this problem at all. I have large hands and I've tried gripping my iPhone in my left, completely covering the area they're talking about (hell, I tried covering as much of the sides and back as possible) and I see no change in my reception. It's full strength, regardless.

That's good news. So it may be fixable after all. Someone said very early on it could be a short, cause by metal touching inside certain phone, I hope that it what's wrong. One things for certain, whatever the issue is, Apple's spinning this like a whirlwind. We should find out what the issue is, cause if we don't it will make people wary to plunk down the cash on this product.

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post #337 of 444
6/25/10 at 12:46pm
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Not insane, but look at my pics man. Explain why I have NO ISSUE at all. Yes there are tons of DEAD ATT zones in Los Angeles. So far my i4 works FLAWLESSLY. Am I insane then? Doh! And, this thread has about 300 posts, some of which 30 are from the same poster, hardly an avalanche of reports on this issue considering over ONE MILLION or more picked one of these puppies up yesterday.

But you never did show the antenna gap and the small piece of Scotch tape you placed there!

Seriously though this is not Macrumors where they have mega threads so I don't think you can take the low post count means non-issue to the bank yet.
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post #338 of 444
6/25/10 at 12:47pm
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post #339 of 444
6/25/10 at 12:48pm
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Originally Posted by Berp View Post

In 2007 Apple came up with a Smartphone with a multi touch interface. They figured time had come for a sweeping change, but it required a learning process for the Users. Apple was prescient and Users bought enthusiastically into it. No amount of propaganda and spin by the competition and their pundits and pseudo journalists apparatus could quell the onslaught.

In 2010 the iPhone tackles the cellular receptivity issue in the same vain. Apple 'patents' a way to make the antenna more efficient. Brilliant and elegant for its structural integration, the idea here is to shift 3G cellular Networks inefficiencies to the end user's control. Thus, more openly and upfront than ever, the way you handle the phone determines receptivity, and in the end, the quality of a phone call. It's a User Centric approach, drifting slowly and seamlessly away from the Service Provider. But it has a learning curve, obviously, as was the case with multi touch back then.

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post #340 of 444
6/25/10 at 12:49pm
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Originally Posted by iPhonepwnz View Post

dude, seriously? I'm was more excited than a kid in a candy store to order this thing and I can't load web pages while holding it. It's widespread.

I can't believe I'm saying this to someone else, but.......stop being an Apple fanboy. If Apple is truly the company that you think they are, they'll fix this without handing out free bumpers.

Dude, widespread from 300 posters ? Widespread can mean everyone. Clearly, I'm not in that group, dont ya think? Neither is my buddy who picked his phone up at the same time and place I did, in fact I am enjoying the AWESOME FACE TIME from his work while I'm here at a pub with wi-fi...

Stop the alarm posts, widespread can imply a lot of things, frankly you have no way of judging what "widespread" means since you have no access to no "data" or factoid what so ever, just what you are reading here.
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post #341 of 444
6/25/10 at 12:50pm
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Originally Posted by gijoeinla View Post

Not insane, but look at my pics man. Explain why I have NO ISSUE at all. Yes there are tons of DEAD ATT zones in Los Angeles. So far my i4 works FLAWLESSLY. Am I insane then? Doh! And, this thread has about 300 posts, some of which 30 are from the same poster, hardly an avalanche of reports on this issue considering over ONE MILLION or more picked one of these puppies up yesterday.

I understand and I'm glad that it worked out for you (surprising in LA) but there is something seriously wrong here. There are only so many possibilities.

1. There is no design flaw and it's a bad batch. If so why hasn't Apple said as much? With returns happening as early in the morning they would have had some time to test a couple of these phones before replying last night.

2. You live close to a cell tower. Did you test it yet while you were out and getting getting 2 or 3 bars? Did the signal drop then while holding it in your left hand?
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post #342 of 444
6/25/10 at 12:51pm
They blew it...

I am as big an Apple fan-boy as any of you, but that is just pure bullshit, most mobile phones I have had I could hold whatever way I wanted without affecting the signal.

It is however true that all phones who previously tried implementing the antenna into the phone hoilster have had this problem. It is not a new thing to implement the antenna this way, has been tried many times before, but there has always been problems, and seems Apple didnt solve those either.
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post #343 of 444
6/25/10 at 12:52pm
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Here's a video of my 3GS doing the same thing when I hold it with my whole hand instead of the usual fingertips that most people use.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t3AmWkZcE8

All cell phones do this.

Nobody uses a phone like that, you're even blocking the screen. I notice you turned off comments on that YouTube video? Go over and turn them on and people can advise you how to retake the test legitimately. The iPhone loses more bars, even to no service with just a light touch in the wrong location. Even one finger can do it. The iPhone 4 does it when you have your hand in the standard position, gently touching the left side. You may as well have your phone in a vice inside a bread-bin there.

On the 2G, the 3G, or even the 3GS the one finger cannot bring the phone to a halt. It's not the same thing at all.

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6/25/10 at 12:54pm
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I don't think you can until there is some formal report stating it as such. We can theorize that it's significant to all devices sold and hypothesize as to what the cause is and what the resolution will be, but to we cannot reasonably claim that it's a "design flaw" that affects everyone while standing on an anti-Apple soapbox without looking like crazy people on the street spouting Revelations and prophesying the end of the world.

Either you're confused about who you're arguing with, or you're intentionally being an asshole. You'd have to be crazy to call me a troll. If anything, I'm probably closer to what would be referred to as an apple zealot.

And what's all this about "design flaw" that "affects everyone" and "anti-apple soapbox"? Why would you portray me and my argument that way?

Solipsism, today you are acting like a total asshole. It is truly baffling. Normally you're much more reasonable than that.

All I've said is that this is a "significant problem". I've even acknowledged that we don't know the percentage of units it affects. At which point, you've gone completely off the deep end, slinging insults and mischaracterizing my position as well as the position of other level-headed people with similar views. Please take a deep breath and come back when you're more rational.
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post #345 of 444
6/25/10 at 12:54pm
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Originally Posted by LongDukDong View Post

Why would you go through all that trouble? No one is claiming that every phone is affected..

Do you think you were going to settle the debate?


He's trying to convince himself it wasn't a waste of time waiting in line 8hrs for a poorly designed cell phone.

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post #346 of 444
6/25/10 at 12:55pm
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But you never did show the antenna gap and the small piece of Scotch tape you placed there!

Seriously though this is not Macrumors where they have mega threads so I don't think you can take the low post count means non-issue to the bank yet.

Hey I am not saying this is not issue for SOME. And NO ONE including you knows what if any this "situation" is the result of definitively. Being in Entertainment Marketing here in L.A. Man this so far is a very small sample that may turn out otherwise, but so far, in my case, and in the case of others that got their new i4's with me yesterday, none of us -- here in the Los Angeles area, hollywood to be exact can "recreate" a loss of signal by firmly pressing our left hand over the left corner of the i4.

Now, travel around L.A. and you use signal from one side of the street to the other. The next house even, another Apple issue? Get real. This product is selling because people have trust in the product not the signal issues that have plagued the iphone since it was introduced. Now there you can find 20 million posts on the web about that issue, that's for sure and over documented.
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post #347 of 444
6/25/10 at 12:57pm
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Originally Posted by Russell View Post

He's trying to convince himself it wasn't a waste of time waiting in line 8hrs for a poorly designed cell phone.

HAHAHAHAHAHH!

I waited one hour doh boy.

I am still waiting for the *lines* to form for the DROIDS!! BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHH

Wait, even at TWO FOR ONE for a DROID there are NO LINES BAAHAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHHA!

FIRE SALE FIRE SALE FIRE SALE.

Jealousy and envy are a sign of weakness buddy. try again.
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post #348 of 444
6/25/10 at 12:58pm
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

That can't be true because that would mean there is no design flaw and they'd have to admit their reasoning was fallacious, so it has to be a problem with that only affects the iPhone 4 and all iPhone 4s or they risk having to admit to themselves they didn't think or act rationally. That isn't likely to happen with people who are not ratiocinative.

Video test is heavily biased. He's crowding the phone. The iPhone 4 can be gently touched, not shielding the screen in any way whatsoever and the phone loses bars and can lose signal completely.

If you got hit by a car you'd have to check your e-mail first to see if Steve Jobs agreed you'd got hit. If he didn't you'd have to deny it - just like you're denying this. Apple will fess up eventually, and you'll be: "well, eh, I didn't have the issue anyway." Go back to bullshit corner.

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6/25/10 at 1:00pm
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Originally Posted by gijoeinla View Post

At least in MY case. Am in Los Angeles. I could NOT re-create this issue without the bumper. I have NO issue of signal blocking and here are MY pics to PROVE it. For me this just sounds like either some handset issue or good ol ATT. This phone is PHENOMENAL and those how have it and have used FACE TIME know this. The iOS 4 is awesome and plenty awesome on the 3GS i might add. These anti apple people are PAID SHRILLS. This product is so popular so fast it is literally causing OH SHIT reactions all over the world. What ONE brand has been able to build up so much interest in one new product without running ONE AD of advertisement? It just goes to show you how BIG apple has become. And btw any of you haters can go get TWO DROIDS for the price of one, less than a few months after their release. Doh! That sounds like a FIRE SALE to me.

By the way... The only thing I was pissed at when I got home from picking up my i4 was that I could not connect it to my G5. I am still running Tiger, and i4 is not supported! Called Apple and they overnighted me a FREE full version of Leopard, all at no cost. Try "calling" Google for service on your DROID, wait, I just realized their is NO PHONE SUPPORT at Google. Doh.

Your post had a title of "This is bogus". However, what you've demonstrated is that not all iphones are affected, or at least not all of the time. About this there has been no dispute.

You're completely deluding yourself if you think that all of us who are having problems are haters. I'm definitely pro-apple in just about every scenario. But in this case, a significant number of people are having problems with the new iphone. It doesn't make us haters simply for pointing this out.

Would it help if I said that I still love the new iPhone? Well its true, I do love the new iPhone. It is phenomenal. The caveat is that there are serious reception issues for a lot of users, reception issues so sever as to make the phone nearly unusable.
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post #350 of 444
6/25/10 at 1:04pm
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Originally Posted by str1f3 View Post

I understand and I'm glad that it worked out for you (surprising in LA) but there is something seriously wrong here. There are only so many possibilities.

1. There is no design flaw and it's a bad batch. If so why hasn't Apple said as much? With returns happening as early in the morning they would have had some time to test a couple of these phones before replying last night.

2. You live close to a cell tower. Did you test it yet while you were out and getting getting 2 or 3 bars? Did the signal drop then while holding it in your left hand?

OMG, now you want to say "it's close to a cell tower" excuses or what else? Why would Apple say anything when this launch is BARELY 24 hours old? I wouldn't comment till I knew EXACTLY the extent of the situation if there is one. Clearly some are having issues. Clearly ANY product that is produced i n terms of the size of this device and the shear aspects of millions of parts and pieces and manufacturers things will NO DOUBT go wrong on some level.

Knowing Apple's PR agency, they are not going to issue formal announcements until a consensus of issues are reported and a result has been decided. Maybe you are just being part of the I want it fixed now mentality which sorry to say is not reality. In fact the phone still functions, this is hardly a dire emergency. But, since shrills are out in force and so are the trolls, it's being made out to be a dire situation and clearly for me and my buddies, it's not an issue at all.
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6/25/10 at 1:04pm
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Originally Posted by dfiler View Post

Either you're confused about who you're arguing with, or you're intentionally being an asshole. You'd have to be crazy to call me a troll. If anything, I'm probably closer to what would be referred to as an apple zealot.

I was replying to you, not at you.
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post #352 of 444
6/25/10 at 1:07pm
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Originally Posted by Proximityeffect View Post

Here's a video of my 3GS doing the same thing when I hold it with my whole hand instead of the usual fingertips that most people use.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t3AmWkZcE8

All cell phones do this.

I think it's a lot easier with the iPhone 4 though. I managed to get my 3G to drop from 5 bars to 1 by putting my hand across the base of it but with the iPhone 4, there are demos of the signal drop using just a key and fingers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvH-i7rKPJc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmU7HBMsY6I

So it's hard to deny this design is severely flawed as it's easy to make this mistake of covering the slots and the signal drop happens pretty quick.
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6/25/10 at 1:07pm
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Hey I am not saying this is not issue for SOME. And NO ONE including you knows what if any this "situation" is the result of definitively. Being in Entertainment Marketing here in L.A. Man this so far is a very small sample that may turn out otherwise, but so far, in my case, and in the case of others that got their new i4's with me yesterday, none of us -- here in the Los Angeles area, hollywood to be exact can "recreate" a loss of signal by firmly pressing our left hand over the left corner of the i4.

Now, travel around L.A. and you use signal from one side of the street to the other. The next house even, another Apple issue? Get real. This product is selling because people have trust in the product not the signal issues that have plagued the iphone since it was introduced. Now there you can find 20 million posts on the web about that issue, that's for sure and over documented.

I will agree that all of the video pro and con are anecdotal at best. It turned emotional for me when Steve said it is a non-issue, when I could hardly use mine. Then to add insult to injury I'm told I am just holding it wrong.

I took mine back this morning. The first Apple product I have ever returned, going all the way back to 1981. When I look around and see so many having the same problems I am, even the 14 I personally know of, I realized Apple was blowing smoke. Being in Hollywood you know there is no smoke without fire, especially when a hot wind is blowing and hot wind is blowing hard out of Cupertino!
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post #354 of 444
6/25/10 at 1:10pm
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Good news, everyone! Apple has heard your cries for help, and they are working on a fix!
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Cool... Thanks for RT'ing my post from the other thread.
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post #355 of 444
6/25/10 at 1:10pm
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Your post had a title of "This is bogus". However, what you've demonstrated is that not all iphones are affected, or at least not all of the time. About this there has been no dispute.

You're completely deluding yourself if you think that all of us who are having problems are haters. I'm definitely pro-apple in just about every scenario. But in this case, a significant number of people are having problems with the new iphone. It doesn't make us haters simply for pointing this out.

Would it help if I said that I still love the new iPhone? Well its true, I do love the new iPhone. It is phenomenal. The caveat is that there are serious reception issues for a lot of users, reception issues so sever as to make the phone nearly unusable.

Sorry but there is a lot of hot air being thrown about a situation that NO ONE including yourself knows the extent. My goal was to show that I could not recreate this issue with my handset in my area nor has any of the people in my group who picked up our phones at the same place at the same time. That to me indicates in MY EXPERIENCE that this reported issue is NOT EFFECTING us, in my group. If that implies to you that you are a hater, then i cant help you.

Seriously I am feeling your pain, but, in the scheme of things are you "claiming" your phone does not work or is out of service? Or if you do this certain type of hold it does not work properly? Is the phone cool otherwise? See, NONE of you screamers are saying much else except DISASTER talk. And to me, unless my phone stopped working, it's hardly a deal breaker. And.. what's with these people like "oh Im glad I didnt' get one" bs... The phones are warranty'd and returnable, what's the risk? Doh.
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post #356 of 444
6/25/10 at 1:14pm
"Yeah - according to Steve, every cellphone does the same thing when held in your hand."

"Steve also says that the iPad is magical."

You know what's f***ing magical, when I hold my **** in my hand a certain way! FFS this is Apple epic failness. Seriously.
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post #357 of 444
6/25/10 at 1:18pm
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We have been misunderstanding Steve all this time. When we thought he said FLASH would degrade the iPhone's performance, he actually said FLESH.

Nicely played, sir. Nicely played.

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post #358 of 444
6/25/10 at 1:18pm
AT&T uses two frequency bands (850 & 1900). My theory is that the iPhone 4 antenna issue is only affecting one of these bands. This would explain why some users are not experiencing the issue. Their service area is probably using the unaffected frequency band.
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post #359 of 444
6/25/10 at 1:20pm
AT&T uses two frequency bands (850 & 1900). My theory is that the iPhone 4 antenna issue is only affecting one of these bands. This would explain why some users are not experiencing the issue. Their service area is probably using the frequency band that would not be affected by holding the iphone issue spot.
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post #360 of 444
6/25/10 at 1:20pm
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