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There was a simple music keyboard which I said I would return, that's fine and I always wanted to return it, but she's asking for one of those tiny music speaker things she said she GAVE me, not lent. That's petty, and downright weird. Not that I want to keep it, it's $30 but... it feels weird.

For $30 I'd just tell her they got broken and offer her the $30. Be mildly evasive about the circumstances without making a big deal out of it. Something along the lines of "Hey, sorry those speakers got messed up. We got a little drunk and they ended up in the tub. Lemme give you $30 and you can get new ones on Amazon."

"...in the tub with us..." if you prefer less subtlety.
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Like you said you don't know if this a design flaw. As of today Apple has not publicly acknowledged a hardware or software issue. It is user error. In the past, they have said an update was coming for a software related issue. If they told Mossberg it was software issue, then why not say so officially?

That being the said, why continue the flame with the phrase "irrational mob mentality"? Could not also the same be said of those who act irrationally in defense of Apple?

A design flaw is a very realistic possibility and one can only point to the Mighty Mouse and Cube to see that's a fact.

Yes, it's irrational trolling when you get fervently emotional, posting nonstop about how a company is screwing customers with a product you don't even own, even going so far as to post melodramic diatribes in threads that have nothing to do with that topic, with fervent absolutism that the worst possible outcome has happened despite having no proof to back up that claim.

And no, I don't see how it can be a design flaw unless it's affecting all users (which was the claim previously made by suggesting all iPhone 4s be recalled). Since it's not affecting every iPhone 4 the flaw would have to be somewhere past the design of the device. It could poor production of a component, multiple components, assembly, and/or some combination therein, but being a cataclysmic flaw in the initial design of the device simply doesn't make sense to me. If you have an intelligent, logical counterargument to that, I'd love to hear it.


PS: I returned my iPad because of issues with Safari that I attribute, at least in part, to it only having 256MB RAM. I've made mentions of my reasoning here and elsewhere. That's about as close to a design flaw as I've experience with Apple yet not one of those comments were tempestuous about the device not suiting my needs.
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Here is the solution. This is the prototype for the iPhone 5 which will solve all your antenna issues.



This will move the antenna away from any human contact improving reception. Of course you will look like a douche carrying it around, but at least it will solve all the crying about how do I properly hold my cellphone?
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Since it's not affecting every iPhone 4 the flaw would have to be somewhere past the design of the device.

The ones that hold the phone without touching the seams don't have a problem, that is why it doesn't affect every iPhone 4. Common sense. If you want a cell phone that fits in your hand, some part of your hand is going to come into contact with the area of the phone that contains the antenna (the bottom of the phone, required by FCC). There is no way to avoid it. I love the iPhone 4 and I do get better reception than the original iPhone, all the time. Yes, I can touch the two seams at the bottom and reduce the effectiveness of the antenna, but I know not to block that area of the phone. Just like I tried not to block the rear plastic portion of the original iPhone since the antenna was in that area.

I am going to get a bumper mainly because I don't want to scratch the rear glass or camera lens if I set it down on a table or desk. As a bonus of the bumper, it will prevent me from making contact with the two seams.
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Originally Posted by arlomedia View Post

I think some of you who are feeling offended by this "wrong" accusation should remember that that's AppleInsider's choice of words, not Apple's. Apple has never said you are "holding your phone wrong." Here's what they said:

"Avoid gripping it in the lower left corner in a way that covers both sides of the black strip in the metal band."

I don't know if AppleInsider was careless or if they're trying to stir the pot, but their headline should have been something like "Apple says be mindful of antenna location for best reception."

Actually, Steve Jobs said "If the way you are holding the phone interferes with the signal, do not hold it that way" You should still be able to hold the phone anyway you want to!!! KMA
post #406 of 444
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Originally Posted by LongDukDong;

Why would you go through all that trouble? No one is claiming that every phone is affected..

Do you think you were going to settle the debate?

Na, 15 posts. Apple plant.
post #407 of 444
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Originally Posted by gijoeinla;

Dude, widespread from 300 posters ? Widespread can mean everyone. Clearly, I'm not in that group, dont ya think? Neither is my buddy who picked his phone up at the same time and place I did, in fact I am enjoying the AWESOME FACE TIME from his work while I'm here at a pub with wi-fi...

Stop the alarm posts, widespread can imply a lot of things, frankly you have no way of judging what "widespread" means since you have no access to no "data" or factoid what so ever, just what you are reading here.

Go away Apple plant. Every tech forum worth anything is reporting this issues from around the world. Come in post worthless pictures and everyone is supposed to sigh and all is well, not. So you have a buddy who's phone is great, well I have two who both have problems. Everyone of your posts are in response to a negative comment about Apple. First Apple release a jacked up phone then the bless us with geniuses like you, fail x 2.
post #408 of 444
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Originally Posted by Russell;

He's trying to convince himself it wasn't a waste of time waiting in line 8hrs for a poorly designed cell phone.


No he has 15 whole posts which most are in this thread. Just look at his posts, every one is in response to some form of negative comment against Apple all within the last 2 weeks. Apple is trying to put the crap back in the horse and send clowns like this to sing sweet praises on all the forums reporting this problem which is allot. Nice try Stevie, I think it is time for your meds.
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...Sorry to hear about your breakup...

Thanks for the support

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For $30 I'd just tell her they got broken and offer her the $30. Be mildly evasive about the circumstances without making a big deal out of it. Something along the lines of "Hey, sorry those speakers got messed up. We got a little drunk and they ended up in the tub. Lemme give you $30 and you can get new ones on Amazon."

"...in the tub with us..." if you prefer less subtlety.

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A big german news magazine stated lately, that especially left handed persons suffer from bad reception because of their natural way of holding a cellphone.
I personally think that its suitable for right handed guys to hold it the wrong way (as apple says). So left handed ones are clearly in advantage when it comes to antenna reception.

This made me remember a funny episode of The Simpson and let to following pic. Hope you like it.
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To use a quip thrown at me whenever I bring up Apples questionable behavior WRT the App Store...

"Nobody is forcing you to buy an iPhone! If you don't how it works choose something else!"
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ok, here you can see that even apple holds it the wrong way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK37dysPPzU
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Originally Posted by DaveGee View Post

To use a quip thrown at me whenever I bring up Apples questionable behavior WRT the App Store...

"Nobody is forcing you to buy an iPhone! If you don't how it works choose something else!"

Hopefully you're saying that in jest.

What we're seeing here is an unexpected shortcoming as compared to a well known product eco-system alternative.
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Originally Posted by hillstones View Post

Here is the solution. This is the prototype for the iPhone 5 which will solve all your antenna issues.



This will move the antenna away from any human contact improving reception. Of course you will look like a douche carrying it around, but at least it will solve all the crying about how do I properly hold my cellphone?

can't be - it's got a motorola chipset in it

What we need is a liquid rubber coating such as this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycjbrQSvCzk to dip your hand into to prevent accidental contact between your skin and the phone - just leave a couple finger tips exposed so you can still use the touch screen.
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Originally Posted by brucep View Post

na na na na
hey hey
good bye

apple really doomed now


the meds taken or not taken on this site boogles the mind

and ireland is now a troll
sorry dude you sound like spam sand / mac tripper

yet even spamboy is cool now

you went from cool dude to jerk-0 rama is like one day

truth is the iphone was never a good phone anyway ATT
and when verizon comes on board or t mobile i will wait on iphone anyhing

You silly little man you. It was a joke to poke fun at those who can only think what Apple tells them to think as if they had had a problem with their phone and walked into the Apple store and saw the Hold Different sign someone had posted. A joke is just not that funny if it has to be explained ...
post #416 of 444
Well done ...But Flanders is holding the phone with his right hand!

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Originally Posted by mplutka View Post

A big german news magazine stated lately, that especially left handed persons suffer from bad reception because of their natural way of holding a cellphone.
I personally think that its suitable for right handed guys to hold it the wrong way (as apple says). So left handed ones are clearly in advantage when it comes to antenna reception.

This made me remember a funny episode of The Simpson and let to following pic. Hope you like it.
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Any sheep skin bumpers? I'm allergic to rubber.

No problem. I'm sure I can find a used one around here somewhere.
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Originally Posted by StLBluesFan View Post

Based on the countless cries of "troll" and dismissive attitude towards anyone who seemed to disagree, I have no need to hear more from him.

And when you can, please let me know how many posts one has to make before being "qualified" to add someone to the ignore list. Thanks.

Sheesh.

Edit: Nm. I have no need for lock-step apologists, whether it be Apple or Microsoft. Plenty of other people to get honest opinion and information from. Read your last post where claiming no problem equals "sane poster," don't bother replying, unless of course you're wanting to show off (again) for your buds, you're nuked as well.

There are many more people here who view solipsism's comments as well researched and informative rather than your current drivel. Neither they, or I, are lock-step apologists for anyone. But I will say that both of us have been around the industry, and here, long enough to see ridiculous people ignoring sane commenters.

My comment about choosing to add them to your ignore list was to point out the sad fact that you haven't been around here enough to make an informed decision about them.

The only thing that got nuked around here was your credibility,
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Thanks for the support :

We broke up?

When did this happen?
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Originally Posted by justflybob View Post

There are many more people here who view solipsism's comments as well researched and informative than your current drivel. Neither they, or I, are lock-step apologists for anyone. But I will say that both of us have been around the industry, and here, long enough to see ridiculous people ignoring sane commenters.

My comment about choosing to add them to your ignore list was to point out the sad fact that you haven't been around here enough to make an informed decision about them.

The only thing that got nuked around here was your credibility,

Speak for yourself, a lot of people disagree. There has been insanity on both sides.

In this particular case, solipsism in particular has been irrational, which is rather unusual for him. He went so far as to call me chicken-little and a troll while also rudely misrepresenting my well mannered and reasoned critique. An apology would restore some of his reputation. Unfortunately, the same rude behavior was dished out to quite a few other posters as well. I'll grant that some of them deserved it. But it is unfortunate that such a prolific poster went off the deep-end and started slinging mud at everyone. With such a high post-count, such behavior tends to start defining the culture of the board.

Just keep in mind that there are irrational and rude people on both sides of this discussion and the existence of these people has nothing to do with what is factually substantiated or not. It also has nothing to do with what is reasonable speculation or not.
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Hopefully you're saying that in jest.

What we're seeing here is an unexpected shortcoming as compared to a well known product eco-system alternative.

No jest...

This is what Apple has turned into.... They are the 'word' they are the 'law'... People like me have vocally expressed our displeasure with how Apple was behaving and everyone came to their defense and attacked those (like me) and shouted us down.

Steve's QUIP about this says it all:

"Don't hold it that way!"

Well, congratulations Apple defenders you have only yourself to blame!

Dave
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No jest...

This is what Apple has turned into.... They are the 'word' they are the 'law'... People like me have vocally expressed our displeasure with how Apple was behaving and everyone came to their defense and attacked those (like me) and shouted us down.

Steve's QUIP about this says it all:

"Don't hold it that way!"

Well, congratulations Apple defenders you have only yourself to blame!

Dave

Whatever about Apple, Steve's saying that is indefensible. It's insulting.
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Originally Posted by msantti View Post

I can't get mine to do it.

I must be retarded.

When I stand on my head and balance the phone on the bottom of my feet, it will do it though!



Yea using the "R" word is just so amusing isn't?! Check yourself before you speak!
post #424 of 444
This is clearly a design flaw.

Almost all portable consumer radio products have a plastic coating on their antenna. There is a good reason for this. Basically, your fleshy paws alter the properties of the antenna when they make direct contact with it. Ironically, this effect is part of how the iPhones touch screen works. The plastic acts as an insulator preventing this. When your skin does make contact with an antenna it's tuning can change dramatically. Signal strength can be reduced to almost nothing, or it could get better, or it could stay relatively the same depending on your overall moisture content, saltiness, and mass. Don't believe me? Get an old radio with a naked antenna and move it around and try touching the antenna. You will notice upon contact the signal will change.
Remember old analogue rabbit ears? Anyone who has used these would have found holding the antenna affects the signal. You move them around and finally get them into a spot where they work. Great, then you let go and go to sit down and the picture goes. Very frustrating.

Remember how apple field tested the iphones in cases? They never would have been able to observe this problem because they never had the phones naked in the field. The effect probably isn't noticeable on their campus either. Very funny their engineers didn't see this one coming.

My advice? Get a bumper or some other case.
Whatever you use it should have a bit of thickness to it.
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Originally Posted by BDBLACK View Post

This is clearly a design flaw.

Almost all portable consumer radio products have a plastic coating on their antenna. There is a good reason for this. [...]

And the fact that it's not affecting all iPhone 4s doesn't make you think twice about making an arrant claim?

Seriously people, a little objectivity and critical thinking would go a long way here.
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And the fact that it's not affecting all iPhone 4s doesn't make you think twice about making an arrant claim?

Seriously people, a little objectivity and critical thinking would go a long way here.

I just explained why it doesn't affect all iPhone 4s, or at least I thought I did.

There are a number variables depending on the condition of the original signal, and the particular tuning of the antenna. In some cases the signal could be reduced, improved, or unaffected. I'm not prepared to explain the physics of how radios tune into specific frequencies but it is a fact making direct contact with an antenna will affect the signal, and the effect can be rather unpredictable. Go find a manual for an old cellphone with a pull out antenna. It will say right there "don't touch the antenna"
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I just explained why it doesn't affect all iPhone 4s, or at least I thought I did.

There are a number variables depending on the condition of the original signal, and the particular tuning of the antenna. In some cases the signal could be reduced, improved, or unaffected. I'm not prepared to explain the physics of how radios tune into specific frequencies but it is a fact making direct contact with an antenna will affect the signal, and the effect can be rather unpredictable. Go find a manual for an old cellphone with a pull out antenna. It will say right there "don't touch the antenna"

Before you said it's a design flaw despite it not affecting everyone's phone. Now you are stating that physical objects can affect transmission. Obviously! How does this explain the drop from 5 bars to No Service by simply putting a finger over the gap between antennas? Do you think that a single finger can affect it that much from 5 bars even though this is far being universal or do you think, just maybe, that there is a production problem with some of their phones?
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This is clearly a design flaw...Almost all portable consumer radio products have a plastic coating on their antenna...

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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

And the fact that it's not affecting all iPhone 4s doesn't make you think twice about making an arrant claim?

Seriously people, a little objectivity and critical thinking would go a long way here.

EDIT: Notice my section in purple... This could be one of the causes of variability in experience, besides obviously differences in location and the general variability of electromagnetic waves through air, hands, etc.

Let me try some brain use. I never thought so much about antenna design. But back when I had my "mini compo" there was the 2-3 foot retractable metal antenna. Don't remember how touching it affected it but certainly the positioning did.

As for a TV's metal rabbit ears, yeah, that's hell. Touching it definitely affects the reception, somehow I recall though touching it always *improved* reception, when you did let go, as the poster mention, the TV signal would frustratingly get worse.

Fast forward to the past 10 years, and mobile phones mostly have concealed (AFAIK) antennas and WiFi devices/in laptops all generally concealed.

My 802.11G PCI WiFi card in my PC desktop has a black plastic antenna. I never considered there would be metal inside that plastic, which it probably does.

I had kind of assumed that somehow in the past 10 years they had developed some kind of non- or semi-metallic composite material that acts as a good antenna.

Now, the iPod Touch and iPad has a black plastic part for WiFi and 3G. Clearly in these devices the antenna is covered. The iPad has the WiFi in the Apple logo at the back, covered by the Apple logo plastic, while it has a black part at the top which covers the 3G antenna.

As for the iPhone 3G/S, the metal bezel is the antenna. Now, could this have been causing signal problems due to it being almost fully exposed? That requires better investigation. But globally I don't think it is as big a problem. Sure, touching it could cause poorer reception as some videos have demonstrated but from a global perspective, signal issues seem mainly to occur on ATT.

Now we come to the iPhone 4. Assuming it is held in a "right way" there is still hand-to-metal-antenna contact but the worse signal reduction happens when "bridging" that gap between the two antennas (the "wrong way"). In that sense, you have one antenna that is trying to handle Bluetooth, GPS, WiFi, UMTS and GSM, through a "single" antenna of metal band and human body.

Now here's an interesting test (I knew my Science degree would come in handy one day).

Has anybody done any objective testing, for example, in isolating the issue as such - Turn off Bluetooth, GPS (not sure how exactly) and WiFi, and UMTS (3G?) --- how is the GSM-only reception? Is it affected as much? Slowly turn on ONE service at a time, isolating which service may be causing the issue. I haven't looked through the videos but with Bluetooth on could there be worse signal reception? Turn off everything, except for UMTS (not sure how GSM would be force-disabled), are there reception problems?

Another test to do, is to hold, with just two or three fingers, just the sides of the phone. In this way, your hand is again bridging the two antennas. Are there signal problems again? Repeat isolating each service as above. Are your fingers more conductive than your palms? More surface area?

So I would postulate this is the kind of critical thinking that some have been doing, that Apple is definitely doing now.

My theory, and it is obviously not novel, just restating, and highlighting what I believe, is that the problem occurs primarily by the bridging of the antennas, not just "touching any metal antennas"... Because such bridging essentially causes the phone to be one continuous antenna, affected by the human hand, trying to handle 5 different types of signals, across much more spectrum/ channels/ electromagnetic bands. So it's a hardware thing. At the same time, it's a software thing because the software has to figure out, hey, WTF, all these signals, what am I supposed to do?

In conclusion, it appears that a software fix may allow the iPhone4 to understand the variety of signals coming from this one continuous antenna with a lot of interference going on.

In the longer run, Apple's go-to strategy for the next batch of iPhone 4 would be to identify, obtain and integrate into their manufacturing some sort of translucent, thin, electrically-isolating coating for the metal band.

Software the temporary fix, hardware coating the longer-term fix. I'm sure the coating can be obtained, there must be tens or hundreds of companies pitching that to Apple right now. There won't be a redesign of the metal band, any major redesign is impossible at this stage without causing Apple hundred of millions of dollars in cost, R&D, lost sales, delays, lawsuits, etc.
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Before you said it's a design flaw despite it not affecting everyone's phone. Now you are stating that physical objects can affect transmission. Obviously! How does this explain the drop from 5 bars to No Service by simply putting a finger over the gap between antennas? Do you think that a single finger can affect it that much from 5 bars even though this is far being universal or do you think, just maybe, that there is a production problem with some of their phones?

Absolutly it can, the same way turning a tuner on a radio just a little bit changes the frequency that radio can recive. It would not affect all iphones the same way because no two objects are identical. Small differences in the phones themselves can change the origional tuning. If the signal is strong without the finger touching that gap, obviously the radio is functioning properly. Everything else would be a variable in that case. Clearly, based on the evidence, insulating the antenna solves the problem... which is why almost all consumer radio products have insulated antennas. Flesh has interesting electrical properties, and like any conductive material it can seriously screw with antennas. Generally it's a bad idea to touch an antenna and it's strange for apple to design one you would touch under normal usage.

Basically, it depends on the properties of the antenna, the finger, and the signal.
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EDIT: Clearly, in the iPhone 3G/S the metal bezel on the front only handles a subset of all signals, hence the plastic back which allows other signals to go through to the other antennas in the plastic back.
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Originally Posted by nvidia2008 View Post

Has anybody done any objective testing, for example, in isolating the issue as such - Turn off Bluetooth, GPS (not sure how exactly) and WiFi, and UMTS (3G?) --- how is the GSM-only reception? Is it affected as much? Slowly turn on ONE service at a time, isolating which service may be causing the issue. I haven't looked through the video but with Bluetooth on could there be worse signal reception? Turn off everything, except for UMTS (not sure how GSM would be force-disabled), are there reception problems?

I've tried it in likely every way possible without having it jailbroken and seeing specific numerical values from Field Test Mode. I've even had the pleasure of testing on a second iPhone 4 today, though not as extensively as mine. Both worked fine in every test. I even was able to test it in areas showing EDGE and GPRS so it's not just areas with great 3G coverage.

I'm not sure you can turn off the GPS radio completely. You can turn off Location Services but that may simply be the iOS side of things, without actually affecting the radio itself which may or may not be designed to send back certain requests to the carrier. The digital compass still works with Location Services turned off, but that is expected.

I'd like to get ahold of one these bad phones so I can test it alongside mine to see if it truly does happen regardless of the frequency, location to tower, etc. or not. I have to assume at this point that if there are no reports showing it being an issue in some places and not in others that it's likely a fault with that particular device no matter what is going on with cellular service.
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DJRumpy has mentioned - "Interesting. People are reporting that if you disable the 3G radio, the signal strength issues disappear regardless of what you do with your hands on the phone."

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=948900
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Good catch.

Apple's probable answer to this: "None of these photos shows someone actually using the iPhone 4 to make a phone call. The closest thing is the first batch, showing people using FaceTime, but that works only via wifi."
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DJRumpy has mentioned - "Interesting. People are reporting that if you disable the 3G radio, the signal strength issues disappear regardless of what you do with your hands on the phone."

http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=948900

That excludes a design flaw which short circuits the antenna since GSM, WiFi and BT all use the antennas. At most, this is pointing to a flaw with the TriQuint UMTS chips, as I previously noted. At the very least, it's a SW/driver issue that can be resolved with an iOS update.
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Good catch.

Apple's probable answer to this: "None of these photos shows someone actually using the iPhone 4 to make a phone call. The closest thing is the first batch, showing people using FaceTime, but that works only via wifi."

It affects SMS, e-mail too, buying books, buying apps too, over 3G.
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

That excludes a design flaw which short circuits the antenna since GSM, WiFi and BT all use the antennas. At most, this is pointing to a flaw with the TriQuint UMTS chips, as I previously noted. At the very least, it's a SW/driver issue that can be resolved with an iOS update.

Yes Mr. antenna scientist.
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Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

Whatever about Apple, Steve's saying that is indefensible. It's insulting.

Whether 4.0.1, fixes this or not, which I hope it does, Jobs has already created a PR disaster for Apple. This is all over the news.

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Originally Posted by str1f3 View Post

Like you said you don't know if this a design flaw. As of today Apple has not publicly acknowledged a hardware or software issue. It is user error. In the past, they have said an update was coming for a software related issue. If they told Mossberg it was software issue, then why not say so officially?

That being the said, why continue the flame with the phrase "irrational mob mentality"? Could not also the same be said of those who act irrationally in defense of Apple?

A design flaw is a very realistic possibility and one can only point to the Mighty Mouse and Cube to see that's a fact.

Cube wasn't a design flaw, it just wasn't what the user wanted. After that Apple decided that the traditional Mac user was too practical and they needed a new kind of user.
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Originally Posted by BenRoethig View Post

Cube wasn't a design flaw, it just wasn't what the user wanted. After that Apple decided that the traditional Mac user was too practical and they needed a new kind of user.

For the record there are clear cases where the G4 Cube simply could not operate in anything above 28degC. Due to passive cooling not allowing enough heat to escape. Was 28degC out of operating temperature specifications? Now that I can't be sure of.
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The Daily Mail in the UK ran a story about an iPhone 4 recall basing it on a fake Twitter post:

http://www.onlykent.com/20100627/iph...nal-newspaper/

Google still pulls up the online news link but it has been removed.

Y'know when bloggers are derided as not being journalists, what does it make journalists employed by national papers who base stories on blogs/tweets?

I reckon that Apple will fix this issue in manufacturing by perhaps adding either a coating or adding plastic bridges between the seams - that way it looks more Apple-like too. If current users have a problem, they could just exchange them and the ones that are returned can be modified. For the people who decide to stick with their's, they can just get creative:



4.01 is rumored to come this week, possibly Monday so we'll see if it can be fixed by software.
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Good catch.

Apple's probable answer to this: "None of these photos shows someone actually using the iPhone 4 to make a phone call. The closest thing is the first batch, showing people using FaceTime, but that works only via wifi."

sorry i just had to register in this forum to post exactly the same response. So to the original poster who created this image: you = fail
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