Death Grip hysteria may end Monday with iOS 4.01 - Page 14

That's interesting. Here's to hoping, 'cause I have my money up stairs if it's fixable, soon.

Me too.

That is a very interesting experience. Please do keep us posted as to what happens.

Cheers

I guess we're not getting a software fix today. \

The day isn't over yet, troll.

Sarcasm.

Has anyone heard a more definite answer on when or if there will be a software update? I know the IOS 4 update was at around 10:00 a.m. PST. As of right now, I do not believe there is any update.

Thanks

Adam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amPG52DVQuk

Posted 26 May 2010

I'm sorry at this point I can't read the entire thread to see if anyone has posted this. I noticed this "answer" is floating around the web this morning. I don't know if this will work but it sounds promising. Does anyone want to try this on their new phone that isn't currently working?

from macrumors:


"Reception issue on iPhone 4
Those of you that are having dropped call issues on your iPhone 4, it is not related to the "death grip". You need to reinstall OS4 from scratch and DO NOT sync from your backup. Create a fresh phone. Your signal issues will go away. I have had two friends do this and they have not had any dropped calls since doing a fresh install.

For some reason this issue is being blamed on the death grip when I believe it is a bug with peoples backup or just bad OS4 software from the factory. A fresh install should solve your dropped call problems"

I haven't got my new phone yet so I have nothing to test it on. Good luck.

I did this with an Apple technician on the phone (landline) at the time. Nothing changed for me.

That first day back on the Twelve Step Program is a beyatch, ain't it?

That is not going to work, the upgrade already does a clean intall of iOS4. Please stop posting the garbage you read on Macrumors here, that site is full of bullshit.

This doesn't sounds quite right to me. I seem to be having more connection issues with my 3GS upgraded to 4.0 than my wife is having with her new 4. I'm just hoping that an update will help with the "breaking up" and dropped calls that I'm having now. The wife has also been dropping a lot of calls since getting her new 4.

Well you probably just answered your own question. It was Telcel, not AT&T. Some countries use different frequencies for GSM. I couldn't find Telcel's coverage map and see what frequency they use, but it might be different than AT&T. In the old days, the original AT&T had different GSM frequencies all over the US. One rep told me that the newer the network, the higher the frequency.

Like I said before it could be possible that AT&T gave Apple a different frequency to test the iPhone 4. It also could be possible that all the test phones had the same "dummy" cover on them to look like 3GS, negating the antenna attenuation you would get by holding it with the bare metal.

There's going to be a lot of voodoo fixes for a while I think...

I don't know, you tell me.

Guys, this issue is not simply a blocking the antenna, it's touching the antenna. You know, the way normally phones don't have the antenna on the outside of the phone where you're hand naturally holds the phone.

These are two different issue. Steve was referring to attenuation of signal, but the real issue with the iPhone 4 is touching that area. Now, maybe it can be fixed with software, if it is then great. But so far, Apple never said that.

So far we've heard: It affects all phones. Non issue, if you are experiencing the problem just don't hold it in that way. Or, get one of the many available cases. And now, non issue, stay tuned.

Not once have we heard from Apple that a software fix is on the way. If it is then "GREAT". But we're waiting for Apple to chime in.

Okay, show me on the doll where you touched his antenna.

I don't know what you're talking about.

Welp, there clearly won't be a software update today. Maybe later this week.

Stay tuned. Whatever that implies.

Nuts! I had that joke a few days ago but completely forgot to post it. Well done!

Great minds! I'm glad someone got the joke.

The end of that 'great minds' phrase comes to mind.

I don't know what you're talking about.

Give and you shall receive - work it out.

Great minds ... think alike. I guess I'm missing something.

Wonder if we'll be seeing a piece called "Death Grip hysteria may end Tuesday with iOS 4.01" by DED tonight?

Nicely done.

Yeah... As I take it, decreasing signal strength sampling rate will save $29 on a bumper for unscientific yet lordly Apple customers. Will make everyone happy.
With Apple it's always about very efficient investment in R&D.

I live in Oshkosh Wisconsin and I can reproduce this issue but I cannot in Milwaukee or even in some areas in Oshkosh itself

Mine is location sensitive too. I guess the whole "shorting out the antenna" thing doesn't really sound right. If you were actually shorting out the antenna, then it wouldn't work anywhere.

I'm betting on a baseband update soon.

This isn't a short circuit. The antenna doesn't work like an electrical circuit. It simply catches electromagnetic waves that are in the air. Despite what people are saying, I don't think that bridging the 2 antennas really has much to do with it, although it may make the problem worse somehow. Also, I am now seeing lots of evidence that all iPhone models are effected by this to some degree.

I can in some areas fully reproduce the death grip effect on my own 3GS, dropping from 5 to 0 bars just by removing the case and holding my phone like normal, but only in some rooms in my home. In other areas, holding the phone in bare hands only drops about one or two bars. Leaving the case on, I get 4/5 bars all the time.

I'm fairly sure now the issue is standing waves, which form between the iPhone's metal chassis the hand. Kinda like a stream with lots of rocks in it to disturb the flow.

I think this could actually account for some of the reception issues iPhone's have been having in general, although poor network performance would make up the bulk of it.

Rather than a flaw, I think you can call it a design characteristic. I'm sure Apple is aware of this and they use some software tricks to improve reception, however I think because Apple uses an uninsulated antenna there will always be quirks in the iPhones reception. The laws of physics don't change, and touching an uninsulated antenna will screw with reception.

For the better. Apple --- well, rather ubuntu --- customers are becoming more and more scientific.
Oh, putain!

That makes a serviceable diction exercise.

Ireland's on one of his missions. No time for joking.

Twas an ambiguous joke, to be fair.

And fools seldom differ.

The Death Grip does cause some bizarre attenuation of the antenna. You'll see it drop most dramatically indoors or in areas without a perfect signal.

Outside and in areas close to a cell tower, I do not see bars drop on mine.

Indoors, I can often get it to drop calls and fail to transmit data.

Part of my collegiate experience was to volunteer at the Haight Ashbury Free Clinic in the summertime. There I learned the following phrase, which is helpful in bringing people down from a bad trip.

"The mountains are my friend, they do not want to swallow me.
The mountains are my friend, they do not want to swallow me.
The mountains are my friend, they do not want to swallow me.
The mountains are my friend, they do not want to swallow me."

Repeat as necessary.

So, when Apple Insider said that "readers CONFIRM" a software update, did they happen to check directly with Apple to see if this was true?