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The fourth generation of Apple's iPhone dynasty has appeared, generating longer lines than ever. Is it worth the wait?

In this series
iPhone 4 Review: 1 - Hardware Fit & Finish
iPhone 4 Review: 2 - the Phone & FaceTime
iPhone 4 Review: 3 - Camera Photos & Videos

Apple's chief executive Steve Jobs called iPhone 4 the biggest leap yet for the company's smartphone franchise, and he wasn't just blowing the hot air. There's a lot to like about iPhone 4. From its slim design to its precision chassis to its fantastic display, the hardware looks and feels excellent. Unlike previous iPhones, there's no cheap plastic back cover. Unlike other smartphone alternatives, there's no array of buttons to keep track of, no rubber flaps or plastic covers to break off or wear out, and no pointer device needed to make up for a haphazard and flawed touch interface.

After the impressive design of the original iPhone, 2008's iPhone 3G introduced a cheaper looking plastic case, along with support for 3G and GPS, two of the most significant features missing on the original. iPhone 3GS brought improved speed with a faster Application Processor and more RAM, but retained that same cheap looking plastic body.

iPhone 4 smokes previous models inside and out, launching a new industrial design that isn't just nicer looking than the previous two plastic generations, but feels downright luxurious, with a mirrored glass front and back sandwiching a very thin, precision stainless steel body.

This is a fierce bit of kit

The new phone demands a sense of reverence, as if you're almost unworthy to use it. We mortals will instantly grease up both sides with our oily fingerprints, and if we're clumsy enough, we might drop or lose it unless we handle iPhone 4 as The Precious on our quest to make it through the day without nicking it up somehow. Jobs said the new device feels like an old Leica camera, and that's seems pretty spot on. It's not just nice looking, but exudes extremely sharp fit and finish unlike nearly any other consumer device I've recently come across.

Part of the reason for that is that everything else in the world is marching toward being efficiently cheap. When iPhone 3G appeared, I noted that despite its vulgar cheapness, the new design would enabling Apple to reach a wider, broader audience. This time around, Apple is wooing smartphone users upscale, but without jacking up the price.

This direction goes distinctly against the grain of consumer gear in general and smartphones specifically, which have been plunging toward cheap materials with simply styled plastic battery covers, rows of clunky buttons, and tacky light up trackballs. iPhone 4 looks like a a high end Sony design taken from the 80s and evolved along into an upscale luxury brand. Apple isn't just giving the iPhone 3GS a makeover; the new model humiliates the former, making it feel and look clunky, dumpy, and frumpy.

The only time you might prefer owning an iPhone 3GS is when you catch yourself watching in horror as your new iPhone 4 escapes your grasp and hurls toward the floor, as its new glass panel back is now just as easy to shatter as its front. If you find yourself dropping your phone a lot, do yourself a favor and get a case for it.

Is that $700 in your pocket?

The fit and finish and the appearance of every detail of the phone, from its headphone jack to its camera port, and from its volume buttons to its hold switch, is simply luxurious and precise in a way I have rarely seen in a consumer device. Of course, the iPhone 4 is also roughly $700, before your carrier's subsidy kicks in and brings the entry price to around $300. If you think about the device as a $700 bit of equipment, it will impact how you handle it, who you allow to use it, and where you choose to pull it out.

Apple's new iPhone isn't unique in its price; every other comparable smartphone costs about the same thing. But the company has really raised the bar in terms of what users should expect in build quality and design savvy. HTC's Droid Incredible and EVO 4G and Motorola's Droid X really look cheap and unsophisticated compared to iPhone 4 (as does Apple's own iPhone 3GS), yet they all still cost around $700 without that subsidy. If they wore real price tags, Verizon and Sprint probably wouldn't be able to sell very many.

In the auto market, there's a broad range of vehicle choices available to serve users, from the very expensive luxury high end to the simple, but much cheaper cars on the low end. In smartphones, there's now a wide range of quality, but there's no real difference in price.

That reality also has no precedent in the PC arena, where there has always been Apple on the high end opposed to cheap PC offerings, a large chunk of which cost much less because they delivered a lot less. The problem facing Apple's iPhone competitors is that smartphones can't get dramatically cheaper, because carrier subsidies hide a great deal of any price difference, ensuring that the entry price for consumers isn't very significant.

Were Apple, HTC and others duking it out over phones ranging from $99 to $700 at retail, Apple would have a much harder time introducing such a high end device to such ecstatic crowds of buyers. Incidentally, that issue is also why Apple can't really translate its iPhone success into the TV set top box market.

In between however, Apple has also introduced iPad as a very competitive tablet with no real rival, and the iPod touch as a similarly undisputed leader in the nearly uncontested market for sophisticated media players. The success of those products has leveraged Apple's success in smartphones, as the profitability of the iPhone has created economies of scale that have enabled Apple to sell the iPod touch for as little as $200 and iPads for $500, both far less than the real cost of iPhone 4.

And then you turn it on: Retina Display

I prepared myself for a mind-blowing screen, but all I saw was the same thing, an awful lot sharper. On the Retina Display of iPhone 4, text pops. Graphics and photos sizzle. But there's nothing that feels unexpected when you look at the screen. It seems both impressive and ordinary. Then I looked back at the iPhone 3GS screen and remembered how things were before iPhone 4.

Oh yes, the magic is there: the Retina Display is phenomenal. But like a boost in CPU speed or some more RAM, once you glance at the 960x640 pixel, 326 ppi resolution of the iPhone 4 screen your eyes establish a new baseline of normal. This looks the way the screen is now supposed to look.

The new display appears to be significantly less bright than the iPhone 3GS, but in my efforts to compare the two, it seems like the perceived brightness of the previous model is in part due to its softer, blurrier appearance. The Retina Display is razor sharp. No really; I never noticed a real problem with the iPhone's resolution before, but the new screen is simply amazing when you focus on details, especially in comparison with previous models. It is exacting and precise.

It truly does look like the output of a color laser printer, albeit using glossy paper that magically glows. Twenty years ago, I was transfixed by the sharp black text spit out of Apple's original LaserWriter. Now, I have a dynamic color screen that fits in my pocket, and that screen has an even higher resolution. This is definitely some crazy futuristic stuff, but it's now, immediately, the new normal.

As for performance, while being slightly less bright, the screen is not just dramatically sharper than previous iPhones, but also sports wider viewing angles, both side to side and up and down. It performs very similar to the IPS displays in the latest MacBook Pros, although again, the ppi of the Retina Display is approaching a pixel density three times as high (Apple's 17 inch notebook is 117 ppi vs iPhone 4 at 326 ppi).

For all the pre-launch hysteria about how Apple was exaggerating and misstating its resolution in comparison to the human retina, the new screen isn't anything approaching an inflated bit of marketing noise; it's the real deal. It will ruin your retinas for ever returning to a lower resolution screen however.

So far, apart from those that have already dropped theirs, or a small number of people who have received defective units, build issues have largely been constrained to a temporary spotting issue that seems to resolve itself. There are however other issues with iPhone 4, and they relate to its most important function: calling.

Issues related to antenna signal (both actual performance and the reported signal meter), proximity sensors (for blanking the phone's screen while you have it next to your face talking), and calling features will be outlined in part 2, focusing on the Phone and FaceTime.
post #2 of 338
an Apple Fanboy.

Excellent review as usual Dan, but you might want to tone down the slobbering a bit.

You are correct about the iPhone 4's display being the new normal. I got to play with my wife's new phone for a few minutes and it is incredible.

I find it trivial to get the bars to go down to zero. Sweaty fingers and just the right grip and poof; they are gone.
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Excellent review, my fellow fanboy. I just upgraded to the iPhone 4 and I agree with your sentiments. I felt the same way about the screen but couldn't quite articulate it. Once again, Apple has raised the bar, this time with pixel density. I can't wait wait for computers to catch up now (typing this on my new 1680x1050 "high res" 15" MBP. Nice display, but 326 DPI it ain't. And OS X doesn't support it as gracefully as iOS either. I'm sure it's just a matter of time...)

Rob
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"exudes extremely sharp fit and finish"

The same feeling struck me inspecting the new Mac mini. They are getting really precise with the manufacturing lately.

Maybe they are reversing course a little bit on the price lowering/slight compromises of the last few years.
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Of course, the iPhone 4 is also roughly $700, before your carrier's subsidy kicks in and brings the entry price to around $300.

Isn't the entry price closer to $200?
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Hmph I want an iPhone 4

~Callum
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I agree with the sentiments expressed about the build quality and display...Apple has nailed it with the iPhone 4, but...

This "review" seems like it's almost a rewritten Apple press release or a paid advertisement, than a review...Maybe if my iPhone 4 wouldn't drop calls every time I hold it "normally" in my left hand, I could deal with the fanboyism displayed in this article a little better...

Like I said, I agree about the fit and finish and the display...But it's sort of like owning a BMW compared to a Ford Taurus...the fit and finish on the BMW are much better than the Taurus, but in this case, the BMW won't stay running for no more than 20 to 30 seconds before the engine dies while the Taurus keeps running right along...
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I don't believe I've ever seen a screen so beautiful on a mobile device. I remember Steve asking the audience during the keynote if they could tell the difference between the two phones, and thinking to myself that I could not. After picking up my iPhone 4 and returning home, I placed both the 3GS and iPhone 4 side by side and was absolutely blown away by the display. I, too, thought Steve was exaggerating the screen's ability - I'm eating my crow like a man, I was dead wrong, Steve.
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The iPhone 4 is beautiful. The iPhone 4 feels solid. The iPhone 4 is thin. The iPhone 4 is physically smaller and sleek. The iPhone 4 is simple to use. The iPhone 4 has one of the best displays out there. The iPhone 4 is fast! The iPhone 4 has the best OS out there. The iPhone 4 has super cameras. The iPhone 4 has the best games and third parry apps. The iPhone 4 has it all…

But this new iPhone 4 has a big issue, and until that big issue is properly addressed I won't be buying an iPhone 4, and I certainly won't be recommending it. This: "just don't hold it in that way" crap is a big deal, and Steve needs to get his head out of his ass if he thinks people are going to accept it. The word on the street is hold off on purchasing an iPhone 4 until we know more. And the word is spreading. I want an iPhone 4 like the next guy, I have the money up stairs for it in fact. But this antenna debacle isn't going away anytime soon. Apple needs to wake up and fix the issue at hand, rather than blaming their customers for holding it wrong.

Yes, we're still pissed about. Why wouldn't we be. Apple makes some of the best products in the world. We expect more from Apple. Some of us Mac fans we're taken aback by Steve's comment. Surely Apple is abandoning it's principles?

Great device, but...
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Isn't the entry price closer to $200?

Indeed: http://store.apple.com/us/browse/hom...co=MTgyNjM3NDU unless he was talking Canadian Dollars?
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...iPhone 4 smokes previous models inside and out, launching a new industrial design that isn't just nicer looking...

It seems to be SO new it's killed an interesting mix of my iPhone accessories that worked with my 3GS only three days ago. (I think they were broken by the hardware and not the new iOs--i upgraded to v 4 several days before the phone came out, but i only noticed the failures after getting the iP4)

Examples:

--My Kensington Nightstand doesn't charge my new phone.

--half a dozen short usb-to-iphone connector cables no longer work (connecting the new iP4 to my MBP via any of those cables does NOT trigger the opening of iPhoto to import photos; it does NOT trigger the opening of iTunes; even if I open iTunes manually the new iP4 does not show up as a device, using those cables--in other words, i can no longer sync using those cables).

It'd be interesting to know what changes were made in the iPhone connector, and why.

I'd like others to report here: Are any of your accessories still working? third-party chargers? docks? etc.
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nicely written fluff piece. dude, try including some content and actually describing your experience. was there anything you liked (look, feel, weight in the hand).

was there anything you disliked (it can't play all the music files itunes can handle, people bitch and moan about the antenna... although I haven't had any trouble, some of them have yellow spots on the screen, the glass on the back is different from the gorilla glass on the front and is likely to pick up scratches, it doesn't make a very good margharita, etc.).

I've got one, I really like it, but there are some real issues with this handset too -- give us the straight dope! no, the antenna thing is not a big deal; yes the voice recognition software kinda blows compared to android.

oh, and comparing it to every other phone out there, it looks and feels amazing.
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The iphone 4's display is freaking awesome. Will I get it? Hell yeah!!!!!!
You think I'm stupid?
The iphone has the most engaging and robust media ecosystem on the market.
HTV EVO can go suck it!!!!
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But this new iPhone 4 has a big issue, and until that big issue is properly addressed I won't be buying an iPhone 4, and I certainly won't be recommending it. This: "just don't hold it in that way" crap is a big deal, and Steve needs to get his head out of his ass if he thinks people are going to accept it. The word on the street is hold off on purchasing an iPhone 4 until we know more. And the word is spreading. I want an iPhone 4 like the next guy, I have the money up stairs for it in fact. But this antenna debacle isn't going away anytime soon, and people want to hold their phones in a regular manner, and not take this crap from any company.

I sure hate it for those unfortunate customers. Both of the phones we bought work beautifully. I realize there's an issue, unfortunately, the people who aren't having problems don't chime in to let the world know their device works, and works great. I suspect, and I could be wrong, that out of the millions of iPhones Apple will sell, only a very small percentage will actually have problems.

Mine works flawlessly, and I'm letting the world know. Others should do the same.
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i agree with the sentiments expressed about the build quality and display...apple has nailed it with the iphone 4, but...

This "review" seems like it's almost a rewritten apple press release or a paid advertisement, than a review...maybe if my iphone 4 wouldn't drop calls every time i hold it "normally" in my left hand, i could deal with the fanboyism displayed in this article a little better...

Like i said, i agree about the fit and finish and the display...but it's sort of like owning a b&w compared to a ford taurus...the fit and finish on the b&w are much better than the taurus, but in this case, the b&w won't stay running for no more than 20 to 30 seconds before the engine dies while the taurus keeps running right along...



bmw =\\
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I don't believe I've ever seen a screen so beautiful on a mobile device. I remember Steve asking the audience during the keynote if they could tell the difference between the two phones, and thinking to myself that I could not. After picking up my iPhone 4 and returning home, I placed both the 3GS and iPhone 4 side by side and was absolutely blown away by the display. I, too, thought Steve was exaggerating the screen's ability - I'm eating my crow like a man, I was dead wrong, Steve.

I'm looking forward to seeing it. I'll wait until the lines go down at the Apple store first. Too bad I can't get one. With the network coverage in my area there would be no point. But I'm sure the "call failed" message looks beautiful in hi def.
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Jesus dude, get a room. I love the product too but not enough to drool all over the eyes of everyone reading the review.

"The new phone demands a sense of reverence, almost as if you're unworthy to use it." Really? I should feel unworthy to use a phone?

Your delusions are out of hand. I recommend some ssrious in-patient therapy.
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Jesus dude, get a room. I love the product too but not enough to drool all over the eyes of everyone reading the review.

"The new phone demands a sense of reverence, almost as if you're unworthy to use it." Really? I should feel unworthy to use a phone?

Your delusions are out of hand. I recommend some ssrious in-patient therapy.

You'll be labeled a troll now. I know, it's sad.
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The new phone demands a sense of reverence, as if you're almost unworthy to use it.

Apparently if you have hands, and you hold it like a regular iPhone, you are unworthy to use it.
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Honestly, the author epitomizes "fanboyness", although we can expect nothing less as every article on this site is the same. No criticism, only praise. Really, can't you for once show a bit of journalistic integrity and write a somewhat objective article? Praising virtually every component of every Apple product is, frankly, sickening and pathetic. Give yourself a douchebag high 5 on the way out..
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The iPhone 4 is beautiful. The iPhone 4 feels solid. The iPhone 4 is thin. The iPhone 4 is physically smaller and sleek. The iPhone 4 is simple to use. The iPhone 4 has one of the best displays out there. The iPhone 4 is fast! The iPhone 4 has the best OS out there. The iPhone 4 has super cameras. The iPhone 4 has the best games and third parry apps. The iPhone 4 has it all

But this new iPhone 4 has a big issue, and until that big issue is properly addressed I won't be buying an iPhone 4, and I certainly won't be recommending it. This: "just don't hold it in that way" crap is a big deal, and Steve needs to get his head out of his ass if he thinks people are going to accept it. The word on the street is hold off on purchasing an iPhone 4 until we know more. And the word is spreading. I want an iPhone 4 like the next guy, I have the money up stairs for it in fact. But this antenna debacle isn't going away anytime soon. Apple needs to wake up and fix the issue at hand, rather than blaming their customers for holding it wrong.

Yes, we're still pissed about. Why wouldn't we be. Apple makes some of the best products in the world. We expect more from Apple. Some of us Mac fans we're taken aback by Steve's comment. Surely Apple is abandoning it's principles?

Great device, but...

Ireland. GREAT POST. APPLE must make this right. Either a software fix (THAT WORKS), new phones (THAT WORK) or there will be a lot of returns. THAT would rip my heart out as I've owned Apple products since the '80s and crowed about them for many years.
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Honestly, the author epitomizes "fanboyness", although we can expect nothing less as every article on this site is the same. No criticism, only praise. Really, can't you for once show a bit of journalistic integrity and write a somewhat objective article? Praising virtually every component of every Apple product is, frankly, sickening and pathetic. Give yourself a douchebag high 5 on the way out..

To be fair there are a few writers here that tend to keep is more real. Daniel Eran (The Prince) isn't one of them, though.
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Honestly, the author epitomizes "fanboyness", although we can expect nothing less as every article on this site is the same. No criticism, only praise. Really, can't you for once show a bit of journalistic integrity and write a somewhat objective article? Praising virtually every component of every Apple product is, frankly, sickening and pathetic. Give yourself a douchebag high 5 on the way out..

I thought it was pretty good read. I think that the iPhone, in terms of hardware, is the best out there. They have managed to remove all plastic (at least externally) from the device. I would have had a fit if he didn't mention the antenna controversy.

Look, I think Dilger is a fanboy but he is an incredibly smart one. Those words "incredibly smart one" are not exaggerated. His one flaw is that he believes that Apple is incapable of flaws or he doesn't mention them within the Jobs era. I can still remember how he defended Apple's lack of multitasking on a smartphone on the Tech Night Owl podcast saying that smartphones shouldn't have them until a little over a month later when he co-wrote an article saying the iPhone would have multitasking in 4.0.

Dilger, you seem like a nice guy, but I hope to never see those awkward videos on RoughlyDrafted again.
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Great article Dan, as per usual. Boy am I drooling to see a similar display (it won't be as high in ppi of course) go into the ipad rev. b. Less bright and more sharp, would mean a real treat to read on.
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Spot on review. This new iPhone 4 is a huge leap. The screen size isn't any bigger but you get so much more out of it, it often feels bigger, especially on the web.

I live in converted old barns with nearly 2 feet thick stone walls and now get great reception on wifi all through the house and all around it, whereas it was spotty on my old 3G.

I switched carrier from O2 to Vodafone and again now get complete data, and voice, coverage indoors and complete and faster coverage outdoors. How much that has to do with the new design I don't know but it's much more noticeable than I had anticipated.

I could go on and on, I'm thrilled by this thing!
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post #26 of 338
Dan from the way your article reads I would almost think you were masturbating and getting off all over this thing. You need to loosen your grip a bit.
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I have to laugh at these comments on being a "fanboy". Lets face it folks - there is no other phone on the market with this build quality... period!

You can like Apple or hate Apple all you want, but there's no arguing that they definitely understand "Design".

BTW - if you haven't actually seen or held an iPhone 4 in person - its hard to describe how nice it really is.

Flame away...
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It seems to be SO new it's killed an interesting mix of my iPhone accessories that worked with my 3GS only three days ago. (I think they were broken by the hardware and not the new iOs--i upgraded to v 4 several days before the phone came out, but i only noticed the failures after getting the iP4)

Examples:

--My Kensington Nightstand doesn't charge my new phone.

--half a dozen short usb-to-iphone connector cables no longer work (connecting the new iP4 to my MBP via any of those cables does NOT trigger the opening of iPhoto to import photos; it does NOT trigger the opening of iTunes; even if I open iTunes manually the new iP4 does not show up as a device, using those cables--in other words, i can no longer sync using those cables).

It'd be interesting to know what changes were made in the iPhone connector, and why.

I'd like others to report here: Are any of your accessories still working? third-party chargers? docks? etc.

All of my cables and other accessories that plug into the dock port are still working, with the exception of the cable that came with my Griffin car charger. The problem with that charger is that its dock plug is too thick to make it through the associated slit in the bumper that I have around the phone. So it doesn't make a clean connection. Perhaps you are having the same issue, i.e. a problem with the bumper, not the phone?

Thompson
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The iPhone 4 is beautiful. The iPhone 4 feels solid. The iPhone 4 is thin. The iPhone 4 is physically smaller and sleek. The iPhone 4 is simple to use. The iPhone 4 has one of the best displays out there. The iPhone 4 is fast! The iPhone 4 has the best OS out there. The iPhone 4 has super cameras. The iPhone 4 has the best games and third parry apps. The iPhone 4 has it all

But this new iPhone 4 has a big issue, and until that big issue is properly addressed I won't be buying an iPhone 4, and I certainly won't be recommending it. This: "just don't hold it in that way" crap is a big deal, and Steve needs to get his head out of his ass if he thinks people are going to accept it. The word on the street is hold off on purchasing an iPhone 4 until we know more. And the word is spreading. I want an iPhone 4 like the next guy, I have the money up stairs for it in fact. But this antenna debacle isn't going away anytime soon. Apple needs to wake up and fix the issue at hand, rather than blaming their customers for holding it wrong.

Yes, we're still pissed about. Why wouldn't we be. Apple makes some of the best products in the world. We expect more from Apple. Some of us Mac fans we're taken aback by Steve's comment. Surely Apple is abandoning it's principles?

Great device, but...

Are you really that much against getting a bumper, which serves to also protect the phone in case of a drop? (The bumper even does come up a bit above the edge, making it likely that the rubber will hit the ground first if you drop it on a flat surface.)

I have verified that the bumper prevents this signal issue.

Thompson
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Examples:

--My Kensington Nightstand doesn't charge my new phone.

--half a dozen short usb-to-iphone connector cables no longer work (connecting the new iP4 to my MBP via any of those cables does NOT trigger the opening of iPhoto to import photos; it does NOT trigger the opening of iTunes; even if I open iTunes manually the new iP4 does not show up as a device, using those cables--in other words, i can no longer sync using those cables).

It'd be interesting to know what changes were made in the iPhone connector, and why.

I'd like others to report here: Are any of your accessories still working? third-party chargers? docks? etc.


I have a Kensington battery pack charger that still works and a Griffin car kit that still works. I guess when I synced my settings over to the iPhone 4 it synced my bluetooth code for my car stereo because that connected instantly. My windshield mount doesn't fit.
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The iPhone 4 is beautiful. The iPhone 4 feels solid. The iPhone 4 is thin. The iPhone 4 is physically smaller and sleek. The iPhone 4 is simple to use. The iPhone 4 has one of the best displays out there. The iPhone 4 is fast! The iPhone 4 has the best OS out there. The iPhone 4 has super cameras. The iPhone 4 has the best games and third parry apps. The iPhone 4 has it all

But this new iPhone 4 has a big issue, and until that big issue is properly addressed I won't be buying an iPhone 4, and I certainly won't be recommending it. This: "just don't hold it in that way" crap is a big deal, and Steve needs to get his head out of his ass if he thinks people are going to accept it. The word on the street is hold off on purchasing an iPhone 4 until we know more. And the word is spreading. I want an iPhone 4 like the next guy, I have the money up stairs for it in fact. But this antenna debacle isn't going away anytime soon. Apple needs to wake up and fix the issue at hand, rather than blaming their customers for holding it wrong.

Yes, we're still pissed about. Why wouldn't we be. Apple makes some of the best products in the world. We expect more from Apple. Some of us Mac fans we're taken aback by Steve's comment. Surely Apple is abandoning it's principles?

Great device, but...


I hope more people hold off so i can buy mine sooner rather than later. They were sold out after day one where I live.
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Are you really that much against getting a bumper, which serves to also protect the phone in case of a drop? (The bumper even does come up a bit above the edge, making it likely that the rubber will hit the ground first if you drop it on a flat surface.)

I have verified that the bumper prevents this signal issue.

Thompson

How is that thin plastic bumper that only covers the strongest part of the iPhone 4 (the metal), going to protect it in a fall ? And why should anyone buy an accessory just so your phone works properly ?
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Originally Posted by kscottmyers View Post

I have to laugh at these comments on being a "fanboy". Lets face it folks - there is no other phone on the market with this build quality... period!

You can like Apple or hate Apple all you want, but there's no arguing that they definitely understand "Design".

BTW - if you haven't actually seen or held an iPhone 4 in person - its hard to describe how nice it really is.

Flame away...

The flames will be coming I assure you but it won't be from me. The iPhone , in terms of hardware, is flawless. The antenna MAY BE something else.

You cannot mention design until we see a solution to the problem. Right now it seems like this is an issue with at least 50% of all iPhones. I presume Apple has an answer but you never know. If it is a recall then it will be a massive one.
post #34 of 338
he clearly stated this was about just the "hardware fit and finish" and plans to cover "phone and facetime" in part 2.

Not a fanboy at all, but its hard to argue with him on the design of the phone.
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Originally Posted by maccherry View Post

The iphone 4's display is freaking awesome. Will I get it? Hell yeah!!!!!!
You think I'm stupid?
The iphone has the most engaging and robust media ecosystem on the market.
HTV EVO can go suck it!!!!

My sentiments exactly
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And why should anyone buy an accessory just so your phone works properly ?

I have had terrible problems with the death grip and contacted Applecare, they told me to restore my phone which I did. He, the AppleCare level 2 technician, stayed on the phone till it had restored and heard me laying the phone down and getting full signal then lightly picking it up as usual and going quickly to "no service". He told me that they would replace the phone. He is calling me back (this was later on on Friday) on Mon, Tues. SJ's comments left me feeling insulted (I was someone who had had nothing bad to say about him) but clearly, as most of us here are used to, Apple won't expect people to live with a faulty product.
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post #37 of 338
Chiming in with my experience:

Vis-a-vis the antenna issue: I haven't experienced dropped calls or decreased data speed (using Speedtest or bringing up web pages) with any grip I've tried (though perhaps my hands aren't sweaty enough). I've already made and received calls in places where I couldn't get service with my 3G phone, and I have yet to have a call fail in my house (where probably 30-50% of my 3G phone calls would fail).

Besides the display, which continues to amaze me, I'd have to say the biggest pleasant surprise is that 3G service on my new phone feels as fast as WiFi service on my old (3G) phone--not upgrading to the 3GS last year is the reason, of course, but I'm sure appreciating the MAJOR speed increase for all functions.

This phone is WAY easier to drop, though, than my 3G, so I'll be ponying up either for a bumper or -- hopefully -- a knockoff since $30 is an excessive price, I think, for a rubber ring that probably costs $5 including packaging. It'll be a damn shame to hide the stainless steel design though.
post #38 of 338
Jesus, Daniel. You're so far up Steve Jobs ass, it's hard to tell where he leaves off and you begin. You need to move out of your mom's basement and get a life.
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There are some designs that Apple comes out with that I just don't love. This is one of them. The glass seems like it'll be a problem. Of all the iPhone designs I like this one the least.

Face Time seems incomplete. It needs to work as a phone call AND as iChat, not a combination of both while being neither. I guess a software update can fix that but it seems silly to have to switch from a phone call to WiFi.

The metal rim feels weird in the hand and the edge is a bit too sharp. I don't understand why they did not make the metal thinner and bring it flush with the glass. I just doesn't look good to me.

The screen is spectacular but it doesn't make THAT much difference on such a small screen. I know it'll be a year before the next phone but I guess I'll have to wait.

Of course, the iPad will probably be getting a camera when it gets updated and there's got to be a new Mac Pro right around the corner so it may best if I save my Apple budget for the future.
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Part of the reason for that is that everything else in the world is marching toward being efficiently cheap. When iPhone 3G appeared, I noted that despite its vulgar cheapness, the new design would enabling Apple to reach a wider, broader audience. This time around, Apple is wooing smartphone users upscale, but without jacking up the price.

The reason why the iPhone 3G/3GS had a plastic back hasn't got anything to do with reducing costs. The real reason, surprise surprise, it's down to our friend Mr. Antenna again. The signal propagates through plastic better than it does metal (or skin ).

This is why virtually all cell phones are at least partially made from plastic. Cost is very much a secondary concern.
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