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A report outlining advertisers' plans for Apple's new iAd program indicates that the new interactive ads won't reach iPad users until iOS 4 becomes available for it in November.

iAds will go live on iOS apps for the iPhone and iPod touch starting July 1, although Advertising Age reported that "a check-in with declared iAd advertisers found that many are still in the early stages of flushing out concepts and creative."

The story added that "some are weeks -- perhaps months -- away from having an iAd in the system." It cited "an agency exec with several iAds in the works," as saying, "most advertisers won't be there on July 1; there just isn't enough time," an issue partly blamed on Apple itself.

Apple is doing "all the technical production of iAds, and telling agencies it will take six to eight weeks to produce an ad after the creative is produced," the report stated.

The July 1 opening of iAd is a date selected by Apple, and "doesn't necessarily coincide with the objectives of the marketers themselves," the report said. Getting ad placements on iPad, "the device considered most promising for advertisers," won't happen until November.

Apple previously stated that a special build of iOS 4 would be released for iPad users later in the year, bringing support not just for iAd but also other features of the new operating system, from multitasking and related background services to Home page Folders and a variety of new APIs used by developers.

Some of the features introduced by iOS 4 on the iPhone and iPod touch are already supported in iOS 3.2 used by iPad, including support for spell correction and Bluetooth keyboards.
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Wow, that's quite a bit of time...Oh well, we have some iOS 4 feature in OS 3.2.

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Are we supposed to be thrilled with getting ads added to the iPad? No thanks! Take your time. I don't care if I ever have them. Seriously, who would?

Why not an iOS update to take care of known bugs on the iPad like the repeated prompting for my home wifi password? Entering and re-entering a 26 character password multiple times a night has a high "piss off" factor. The longer Apple ignores this bug the more annoyed I get with Apple. Suddenly things don't seem so "magical."

I always thought Apple was supposed to be on the side of the user. I guess that was all hype.

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I was hoping for something more like early October. Ah, well. I'm particularly looking for an iPad implementation of folders. My screens are already full.
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iOS 4 + iPad = iPad 2 ?
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Are we supposed to be thrilled with getting ads added to the iPad? No thanks! Take your time. I don't care if I ever have them. Seriously, who would?

Why not an iOS update to take care of known bugs on the iPad like the repeated prompting for my home wifi password? Entering and re-entering a 26 character password multiple times a night has a high "piss off" factor. The longer Apple ignores this bug the more annoyed I get with Apple. Suddenly things don't seem so "magical."

I always thought Apple was supposed to be on the side of the user. I guess that was all hype.

rms

Well, you're going to get ads in some apps in some fashion with or without iAds. So, if iAds suck less than the current ads, that's something of a plus. If you don't want ads at all, you'll just have to be careful which apps you select. Portraying this as Apple somehow not being on the side of the user because of iAds is an utter confusion of the reality of the issue.

As far as an iOS update for iPad in the interim (although, I haven't experienced the particular issue you describe), iOS 4 being scheduled for a November release doesn't preclude an update to 3.2 in the before then. Actually, I'd be a bit surprised if there weren't one.
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Are we supposed to be thrilled with getting ads added to the iPad? No thanks! Take your time. I don't care if I ever have them. Seriously, who would?

Why not an iOS update to take care of known bugs on the iPad like the repeated prompting for my home wifi password? Entering and re-entering a 26 character password multiple times a night has a high "piss off" factor. The longer Apple ignores this bug the more annoyed I get with Apple. Suddenly things don't seem so "magical."

I always thought Apple was supposed to be on the side of the user. I guess that was all hype.

rms

Possibly you have a router problem instead. I bought my iPad April 3rd, and haven't had that problem on any WiFi network including my own. I will get a rare "connecting".
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I was hoping for something more like early October. Ah, well. I'm particularly looking for an iPad implementation of folders. My screens are already full.

No kidding!
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Why the iPad wasn't the first device to get iOS 4, instead of the last, is a mystery to me. Why it's going to take an additional five months to bring iOS4 to the iPad is an even greater mystery.
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Yeah, the headline should be ios 4 delayed for iPad till late November.

That is completely bogus. There's no technical reason it can't be made available for iPad basically right away.

Waiting till almost 2011 for features that are sorely lacking (these are not improvements, they are more like corrections) is wack, especially given that the os is already out the door.
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Are we supposed to be thrilled with getting ads added to the iPad? No thanks! Take your time. I don't care if I ever have them. Seriously, who would?


It's already possible to have ads on the ipad. just not iAds

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iOS 4 + iPad = iPad 2 ?

if you are suggesting new hardware, likely not. they already had iOS4 well in the works when the ipad released so they would have made hardware that was iOS4 ready

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Why the iPad wasn't the first device to get iOS 4, instead of the last, is a mystery to me. Why it's going to take an additional five months to bring iOS4 to the iPad is an even greater mystery.

Apple did not release that date, they just said 'this fall' so perhaps it will be November, perhaps it will be September.

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Yeah, the headline should be ios 4 delayed for iPad till late November.

That is completely bogus. There's no technical reason it can't be made available for iPad basically right away.

I love the way everyone knows more about OS development than Apple.

Just what are your credentials that allow you to make such a statement when Apple says it will take until November?
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If you are suggesting new hardware, likely not. they already had iOS4 well in the works when the ipad released so they would have made hardware that was iOS4 ready

I think he's suggesting they'd start bundling the new iOS on iPads when they give the product a hardware refresh not because it would need the software to function but because they'd have to retool the packaging and documentation at that time anyhow. They're having such a hard time building enough iPads already, they wouldn't want to do anything to abrupt the manufacturing process until they're rolling out a new version altogether. That's my theory, anyway.
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It's already possible to have ads on the ipad. just not iAds

Yeah, I've seen some AdMob ads on some apps on my iPad. Does that mean when Apple starts it's iAds, an app can have both?

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Why the iPad wasn't the first device to get iOS 4, instead of the last, is a mystery to me. Why it's going to take an additional five months to bring iOS4 to the iPad is an even greater mystery.

To add more features perhaps? Features that are not on the iPhone or iPod Touch?
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To add more features perhaps? Features that are not on the iPhone or iPod Touch?

I suspect the fact that they are both called iOS gives the impression that they are more similar than they are. For one thing, the UI layers are essentially completely different, and I suspect there are substantial differences under the hood as well. My guess is that it's simply a matter of it taking longer than everyone thinks it should because there's more that needs to be done than is apparent.
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Isn't November the rumored month for the Verizon iPhone?

Why not a Verizon iPad to go with it?

Apple wants iOS 4 for the iPad to coincide with the release of the Verizon model to add a sense of newness. It'll probably go down during some special event.
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Originally Posted by GregoriusM View Post

iOS 4 + iPad = iPad 2 ?

I wondered the same, but November would be an unusual release date for a holiday-targeted refresh. Apple does its launches/refreshes at the beginning of a quarter and usually refreshes the iPods around October 1. Maybe just a memory bump?
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iOS 4 + iPad = iPad 2 ?

I wouldn't bet anything on that at all; in fact I would bet against it. Nov 2010 just does not make sense for delivery of the iPad -- that is right before the holiday season. Why not sell what they have now (from AAPL POV) and make what they will with that and then intro a new one in the early spring/late winter and have a huge demand for all those that have decided to wait for iPad 2. I really don't see the motivation from Apples POV to deliver a new iPad -- the biggest complaint (multitasking) is being handled and the 2nd largest IMHO, camera(s) will be in the next generation and is not enough to keep many from buying them now.

They will sell plenty of each by selling 1st gen for the holidays and 2nd gen in the spring -- probably more than if they only shipped a new one in the fall. Also, remember it has not been that easy to get to a point where Apple has met demand on the original iPad so why deal with shortages at holiday season. Besides, the first gen will seem new with the new iOS4 for it this fall.

Besides I think they will have a new iMac and possibly new MB/MBP by then and those certainly generate more revenue.

Just my 2 sense, err scents -- oops thats cents.
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Isn't November the rumored month for the Verizon iPhone?

Why not a Verizon iPad to go with it?

Apple wants iOS 4 for the iPad to coincide with the release of the Verizon model to add a sense of newness. It'll probably go down during some special event.

November doesn't make sense to introduce new hardware for the Christmas retail cycle which is firmly in place and locked down with the annual September iPod refresh and not supplemented till January. If any new hardware (iPad or iPod) it'll be introduced then.

The November date for iAd is clearly to cash in on the holiday advertising blitz.

Apple has had a very predictable hardware rollout schedule for most of it's products for years. If the Verizon introduction comes after September it certainly will be with plenty of time for the Christmas buying season. They'll pick up those potential buyers that put off the current offerings for a perceived better cellular service. The products, no doubt, will be identical to those offered now except with the proper hardware modifications to work on the Verizon network.
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I suspect the fact that they are both called iOS gives the impression that they are more similar... ... it's simply a matter of it taking longer than everyone thinks it should because there's more that needs to be done than is apparent.

They are much more alike than not but that does not mean you do not have to do your QA for them. The QA for each device is a large task and takes a given amount of time. The same folks work on the iOS for both devices though there are frameworks that differ on each.

It would not have been a good idea for Apple to try to introduce the iPhone 4 and iOS 4 for both the iPhone and iPad. One of the biggest tasks by far is the regression testing necessary for the legacy devices. This effort in and of itself is huge.

Performance testing and making decisions about cutting a feature due to lack of performance (e.g., wallpaper on 3G iPhone). Cutting features is always a difficult decision -- everyone wants all the bells and whistles on all the devices so the Engineers write, rewrite and optimize to try to get it up to speed. If they can't get it to perform within expectations then it gets cut and that possibly adds more error handling in the code but definitely a new test case or few. This increases the load on QA and with each release they must not only test these new cases but regress old issues that are "fixed". Anyway that is but one scenario that adds time.

This is a non-trivial release (not a x.x.1 or x.1 but major) so there was a large baseline to test. Up to the point the iPad was released the testing being done with it was just 3.2 and added a lot fewer changes under the hood.

To have delivered iOS 4 for the iPad at the same time would have required all the same testing be done again in the period from release to well before WWDC (has to be released to manufacturing with a lead so that it can be sold and distributed). I can tell you from personal experience that 6-7 weeks is not enough time to validate a new OS (I worked at Apple and help deliver a few revs of the MacOS) and it just does not make sense to release the iPad with one os if you are planning to release it with a different version that soon. Also remember that developers would have needed the time to get not only their iPhone apps updated but there iPad apps also.

This is not something that Apple could have just thrown more resources at to get done either (see The Mythical Man Month by Brooks).

I for one will be patient and wait till the fall and have it right instead of now and full of holes.

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I'm thinking it might make sense to start selling an iPad with front facing camera for those face time chats. Other than that, I'm hoping apple might begin bundling updated ipads with iLife. Need to be able to make albums in iPhoto and a version of GarageBand would be nice.
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Why the iPad wasn't the first device to get iOS 4, instead of the last, is a mystery to me. Why it's going to take an additional five months to bring iOS4 to the iPad is an even greater mystery.

It's very simple really.

When Apple was getting the iPad ready, they started with iPhone OS 3.1, and made whatever changes they needed to make from that base.

Meanwhile, the iPhone 4 team starting from the same 3.1 base made other changes. The both worked with the same base but made changes in different directions for different purposes.

This approach allowed both devices to ship earlier than trying to integrate two different projects at the end of each of the respective development processes. Branching code streams is a common technique to complete projects like this.

Likely, we'll see iOS 4.1 appear for the iPad which will include the iPad code and the iOS4 code merged together. It might run on both iPhones and iPads.
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iOS4 for the iPad will have some sort of a filing system.
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You mean to tell me that " iOS 4" is not coming til Nov., or, iAds are not coming for the iPad till Nov.?
And boy it would be great to have Garage Band on the iPad (I thought it did - bummed to find its not).
Oh well, I will get the 16gb 3G iPad (just to get a taste), and sell quickly in April, right before iPad2!
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You mean to tell me that " iOS 4" is not coming til Nov., or, iAds are not coming for the iPad till Nov.?
And boy it would be great to have Garage Band on the iPad (I thought it did - bummed to find its not).
Oh well, I will get the 16gb 3G iPad (just to get a taste), and sell quickly in April, right before iPad2!

iAds require iOS 4. Based on that I'd say that iOS 4 for the ipad will be released just before, or with, iAds for the iPad in November.
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That is completely bogus. There's no technical reason it can't be made available for iPad basically right away.

How do you know that? Do you think they're just delaying it for no reason? Obviously it's in Apple's best interest to get iAds on more devices and anything that enhances the iPad further will just sell more units. What possible reason other than a technical one would be delaying the release? Just doesn't make any sense. Also, last time I checked, November was a member of the fall season anyway.

I'm guessing they're pushing ahead with iOS development and basically skipping 4.0 for the iPad. What we'll see later this year will be more than what 4.0 is today. Kind of how iOS 3.2 is to 3.0. Basically a collection of incremental improvements and new OS features but nothing earth shattering from a developer standpoint. This would put Apple on track for delivering a major OS release per year and another minor OS release later in the year full of the stuff that didn't make the cut for the .0 release.
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Sounds more like the date for the iAd switch to flip, and details for ad customers. If iOS 4 for iPhone is any indication of the cycle, theOS will be out before the ad service starts.

It's also very important that developers get their hands on it in beta, long before Skippy H@xz0R gets it and starts whining that his parents will only pay for Verizon.
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Originally Posted by jragosta View Post

I love the way everyone knows more about OS development than Apple.

Just what are your credentials that allow you to make such a statement when Apple says it will take until November?

Not being a sucker is my main credential.


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How do you know that? Do you think they're just delaying it for no reason?

No, and that's what is irritating about about it. I'm quite sure from a marketing perspective there are possible reasons, not the least of which is that iPad 2 may be on the horizon by then and may sell more if boosted by a new OS.

Here's my issue: the features in ios 4 are pretty glaring omissions from the current ipad. Lack of multitasking for example truly emasculates the ipad, and restricts it to be more of a toy than the laptop substitute it could easily be.

So for Apple to withhold important features that would greatly improve the user experience, purely in service of a marketing strategy is frustrating.
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No, and that's what is irritating about about it. I'm quite sure from a marketing perspective there are possible reasons, not the least of which is that iPad 2 may be on the horizon by then and may sell more if boosted by a new OS.

Here's my issue: the features in ios 4 are pretty glaring omissions from the current ipad. Lack of multitasking for example truly emasculates the ipad, and restricts it to be more of a toy than the laptop substitute it could easily be.

So for Apple to withhold important features that would greatly improve the user experience, purely in service of a marketing strategy is frustrating.

I can't agree with that speculation. And being a sucker has nothing to do with it.

How can you expect a new iPad in November? That's terrible timing. I could see, just barely, but I could see a slightly upgraded model with some more RAM, or some modest update. But I even find that to be unlikely.

It's much more likely that Apple has one OS team there. When they finished iOS 4 for the phone, they went back to the iPad, which already HAS some 4.0 features, as well as additional ones, and are now completing it. Then there's a slightly different version for the iPod Touch which has to be ready for the September release of the new model. We'll possibly see a 4.1 version coming out November, with extra features for the iPad as now, and updates to the iPhone version as well.

It's a lot of work.

We've all seen 10.6 delayed several months so that Apple could get the iPhone out the door last time.
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Why the iPad wasn't the first device to get iOS 4, instead of the last, is a mystery to me. Why it's going to take an additional five months to bring iOS4 to the iPad is an even greater mystery.

I fully expect Apple to have an iPad revision out by then. It will be needed to really run iOS well. The new Pad will have far more memory and maybe even dual processors by then. Think about it folks Apple will rev iPad right before the Christmas shopping season.

I know I've expressed this though before and end up hearing all sorts of objections but iPhone 4 should make it clear they are targetting a larger memory foot print. They obviously could rev at any time considering that iPhone has a 512MB A4 but I think Appple has a bigger vision for iPad. That vision in part includes dual core.

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I can't agree with that speculation. And being a sucker has nothing to do with it.

How can you expect a new iPad in November? That's terrible timing. I could see, just barely, but I could see a slightly upgraded model with some more RAM, or some modest update. But I even find that to be unlikely.

It is pretty simply really, the current iPad doesn't have enough free RAM to support iOS 4 well. It effectively has less RAM than the old 3GS.

So while it might work with iOS 4 it isn't going to hum along like iPhone 4 does. I know many don't want to hear this but it really is a big short coming with the iPad. Apple might even keep the old model around at a deep discount depending upon what the competition has going for Christmas.
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It's much more likely that Apple has one OS team there. When they finished iOS 4 for the phone, they went back to the iPad, which already HAS some 4.0 features, as well as additional ones, and are now completing it. Then there's a slightly different version for the iPod Touch which has to be ready for the September release of the new model. We'll possibly see a 4.1 version coming out November, with extra features for the iPad as now, and updates to the iPhone version as well.

As long as they can supply Touch with enough RAM there shouldn't be a problem. At least no more that with the old OS revisions.

As for revs to iOS 4.0 that is a given just to address the bugs.
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It's a lot of work.

We've all seen 10.6 delayed several months so that Apple could get the iPhone out the door last time.

That was generation #1. Considering the importance of the touch product line and Apples growth they are likely beefing up their development teams.


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It is pretty simply really, the current iPad doesn't have enough free RAM to support iOS 4 well. It effectively has less RAM than the old 3GS.

You might remember, if you saw the threads, that I was surprised and disappointed that the iPad didn't come with 512 from the beginning, but I was shouted down from the peanut gallery here who was shouting that if Apple gave 256, then it was enough! Geez!

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So while it might work with iOS 4 it isn't going to hum along like iPhone 4 does. I know many don't want to hear this but it really is a big short coming with the iPad. Apple might even keep the old model around at a deep discount depending upon what the competition has going for Christmas.

It doesn't make sense that they would supply us with 256, and then six months later, up that to 512. The RAM was, and is cheap. I think they will wait, but if they don't, then that's about all they will do for now, as when Apple ups the specs on the Mac, but doesn't change it otherwise. Can you imagine the outcry if iPads sold in November can run programs the 8 million or so that were on sale from April couldn't? If Apple gives them video editing, and we can't use it?

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As long as they can supply Touch with enough RAM there shouldn't be a problem. At least no more that with the old OS revisions.

The Touch is different enough from the iPhone that it needs its own version.

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As for revs to iOS 4.0 that is a given just to address the bugs.

iOS 4 for the iPhone, and iOS 4 for the iPad could be different. I believe that Apple wants to converge them all as much as possible to save themselves some more work. The Touch is a subset of the iPhone, and the iPad is a superset. Just as we have 3.2 for out iPads, to add whats needed there, I think we'll get 4.1 to converge the three some more. With the high resolution of the new phone, and likely the new Touch, programs can be run without modification on the iPad. That's really good, but the iPad still has more needs than the smaller devices.

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That was generation #1. Considering the importance of the touch product line and Apples growth they are likely beefing up their development teams.


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I keep calling for that, but others don't agree. And not only here. I had a good article about that, but I'm not sure where it is.
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I'm a touch fan and I wonder what the next version will bring. The new screen probably. Camera(s)? Gyro? GPS? I don't suppose they'll put a sim in it with a data plan similar to the iPad? I think with the right upgrades it could be a really hot item. Not all of us have jumped on the smartphone wagon yet.
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Are we supposed to be thrilled with getting ads added to the iPad? No thanks! Take your time. I don't care if I ever have them. Seriously, who would?

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I always thought Apple was supposed to be on the side of the user. I guess that was all hype.

rms

The reason to care is that the revenue generated by the ads helps to keep the cost of the apps low for the consumer since it is a way for the developers to make $ without needing to charge $50 for an app. Just like commercial television and commercial radio - you don't pay $1000 a month for "broadcast" TV or Radio because of commercials.
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iOS4 for the iPad will have some sort of a filing system.

Of course. So does iPhone OS 1, 2, and 3.

Oh, you mean a USER ACCESSIBLE file system? There's no evidence for that and it goes against the entire iOS philosophy.

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Maybe not, but you sure have a vivid imagination - thinking that you know what's possible better than Apple does.

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No, and that's what is irritating about about it. I'm quite sure from a marketing perspective there are possible reasons, not the least of which is that iPad 2 may be on the horizon by then and may sell more if boosted by a new OS.

Here's my issue: the features in ios 4 are pretty glaring omissions from the current ipad. Lack of multitasking for example truly emasculates the ipad, and restricts it to be more of a toy than the laptop substitute it could easily be.

So for Apple to withhold important features that would greatly improve the user experience, purely in service of a marketing strategy is frustrating.

There are 3 possibilities:

1. Apple is simply withholding features and iOS 4 as a whim. Obviously not likely - they want iOS 4 on the iPad ASAP for ad revenues, if for no other reason.
2. You are correct that there's no reason for the delay. That would mean that Apple is incapable of doing it because they're waiting for some super-genius like you to show them how it's done. You obviously think you know more about it than Apple. Again, not likely. Actually, not even possible.
3. Apple is working on it as fast as they can and they expect to release it after appropriate levels of QC testing this fall because that's the fastest that it can reasonably be done. Clearly, this is the most logical conclusion.

Sheesh.
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I think Apple are clearly doing more for iPad OS4 than just porting what they did on the iPhone. I expect to see widgets, wi-fi media streaming, and more advanced multi-tasking.
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I'm a touch fan and I wonder what the next version will bring. The new screen probably. Camera(s)? Gyro? GPS? I don't suppose they'll put a sim in it with a data plan similar to the iPad? I think with the right upgrades it could be a really hot item. Not all of us have jumped on the smartphone wagon yet.

I keep thinking a *microphone* would be a big deal on the Touch!

There's VOIP and voice control and whatever other voice-enabled apps are out there.

And, sort of in the back of my mind, is this idea of an iPhone buddy sold by Verizon etc, which lets you make and take calls on your Touch when you have it and is a simple baby phone when you don't ( beach, pool, gym, ...).

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I fully expect Apple to have an iPad revision out by then. It will be needed to really run iOS well. The new Pad will have far more memory and maybe even dual processors by then. Think about it folks Apple will rev iPad right before the Christmas shopping season.

I know I've expressed this though before and end up hearing all sorts of objections but iPhone 4 should make it clear they are targetting a larger memory foot print. They obviously could rev at any time considering that iPhone has a 512MB A4 but I think Appple has a bigger vision for iPad. That vision in part includes dual core.

Dave

Agree. A significant gap in adoption of iOS4 for iPad from iPhone/iPod could mean they are preparing it for a significant change. Providing dual core compatibility is certainly a significant change to the OS.
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