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post #41 of 62
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Returned mine today. After having the phone for a few days, I realized that I could live with my 3GS just fine, better in some ways. I found that I prefer the curved, "sticky" plastic back of the 3GS over the newer "boxy" form of iphone 4. -- just easier and more comfortable to hold IMO. The 3GS is also a bit lighter and less "dense" feeling; the trade off for a larger, more robust battery. And yes, I had reception issues from day 1 that did affect call quality. Incidentally, I tried the scotch tape trick which.. worked. I will surely miss that screen though.

..But what bugs me here is the fact that Apple knew that attenuation was going to be an issue(don't kid yourselves otherwise), yet had the balls to introduce the "bumper" for an absurd premium of$30. $14.99, ok fine but $30 is a goddamn insult to it's customers. *end rant*

Look at BestBuy. All the other iPhone 4 cases are $25-30.

Everyone charges a lot of extra money for peripherals and add-ons. Get over it.
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post #42 of 62
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They sold a case for the newly released iPad, too. They even sold socks for the iPod years ago. I don't think either one of those products indicated that there was an issue with the product. The protection over the antenna is purely coincidental. The device is flat on either end so capping the obvious rim so the glass ends don't touch a flat object makes perfect sense. Again, if the solution is insulation at a single point on the phone and it's known, then selling an expensive accessory is the worst possible way to handle the issue. The only rational conclusion is this isn't some huge conspiracy to sell Bumpers with Jobs sitting in his office crossing his fingers thinking "I hope people don't realize how we designed it to be defective so you'd be forced to by a Bumper."

Also, if they were designed because the external antenna was a problem and they couldn't put a layer of insulating spray over the frame during production, it seems likely that they would have included the Bumper with every iPhone 4, in the box and already on by default. They would have all been black-on-black or white-on-white, allowing the consumer to by the other colours, or maybe nicer ones as accessories. I guarantee you that if this was a "design flaw" the cost of a class action, just for a fraction of the lawyer fees, would be more than all the Bumpers they could have shipped on iPhone 4s in the box from day one. All this conspiracy talk makes no sense if we assume Apple has no idea how people tear their products apart and what people sue them over. I can assure everyone that they most certainly do.


I bought a Bumper today. Not because I have an signal loss issues as I have none even when I don't have five bars. I bought it because the much smaller size coupled with the slightly heavier weight and dense feeling materials makes me wonder if I'm going to break it. As Andy Ihhatko stated, it's slippery and the Bumpers give you that added grip and insurance when using it. The metallic buttons on the Bumper make it feel right, too.

I paid $367.xx (with tax for my iPhone 4. I pay $80/month for AT&T service. I go out to restaurants and pay $50 for a steak and $10-20 for a drink. Since I'm not going to spend money per month for iPhone insurance that also comes with a hefty deductible I'll gladly spend $30 for something that makes me feel assured my investment is protected.


PS: Sold my 3GS on Craig's List for $275. Could have gotten quite a bit more a week earlier. Oh well.

PPS: A bit off topic, but the reason I sold my iPad was the mobileSafari cache issue. That is apparently a definitely bug with all other iOS devices having an unlimited cache and the iPad having 25Kb cache. LOL
http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2010/06/...-cache-limits/

I know, and I'm not trying to demonize Apple or Jobs. They bring amazing products to market and we all appreciate that, quite obviously. You make a convincing point, yet I still have to question their pricing primarily with regards to their peripherals.

I was also afraid of dropping the phone-- another reason I decided to sell. I didn't want to add additional weight with a full case, and didn't feel the bumper would provide enough protection. It's a beautiful device, no doubt about it.
post #43 of 62
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Originally Posted by Boogerman2000 View Post

I know, and I'm not trying to demonize Apple or Jobs. They bring amazing products to market and we all appreciate that, quite obviously. You make a convincing point, yet I still have to question their pricing primarily with regards to their peripherals.

I was also afraid of dropping the phone-- another reason I decided to sell. I didn't want to add additional weight with a full case, and didn't feel the bumper would provide enough protection. It's a beautiful device, no doubt about it.

The great thing about a free market is anyone can play. I don't think it takes long for anyone to make a knock off bumper to sell, or a case that protects the back, too, for less money. The only think they probably won't include if they plan to sell it for under $19 is the metal buttons built into the plastic.

Regarding Apple's accessories, I have spend more than my share of money on accessories and various cables for iDevices that always seem to fall apart or stop working fairly quickly. I thought I was saving money but the build quality was awful. On another note, even now my well worn 30-pin connector from Apple (which put up a good fight) was replaced in an Apple Store. I showed him the frayed end and he didn't show me where I can buy another one, he simply took my old one and got me a new one. I like that!

Playing Devil's advocate: One could argue that by pricing the Bumper at $29 is sets up all the accessory makers to fall on or under that price, in way Apple doing them a solid (ok, I'm laughing too).
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There are no connectivity problems.
post #45 of 62
From exploit to perfection.
...Or did those three who grabbed their stuff and got lost indeed not know

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post #46 of 62
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is "highlighted" code-word for "we had no idea until another site broke the news"?

is AppleStud code-word for TekStud?
post #47 of 62
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Fragmentation is not just something we have to acknowledge and accept. Fragmentation is something that we deal with every day, and we must accept it as a fact of the iPhone platform experience.

Steve Jobs

I couldn't turn up a source for that. URL?
post #48 of 62
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If only there was some way to return it for a refund and a cancelation of their contract or to sell it to some else for a huge profit. These people are so stuck!

Yeah, that 10% restocking fee ain't so bad. Neither is that ETF.
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post #49 of 62
Plunge that friggin' GPS antenna into where it's been before, Apple. You don't need NASA complex in your pocket to reach a bluetooth headset.

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post #50 of 62
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You are succumbing to paranoia and hysteria, which is what almost all conspiracy theorists suffer from. And Bush ordered the World Trade Center to be blown up, right?

Muslims or Taliban did it right?


Fool.
post #51 of 62
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Yeah, that 10% restocking fee ain't so bad. Neither is that ETF.

If only there was a way no to legally not pay them because the product didn't work as advertised. What a fucking concept!
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post #52 of 62
Will someone please scan their receipt and show everyone WHERE it states that Apple charges a 10% restocking fee for iPhones? I'm pretty sure that Apple doesn't charge 10% for returning an iPhone.
post #53 of 62
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If only there was a way no to legally not pay them because the product didn't work as advertised. What a fucking concept!

Actually, Apple is refusing to admit any error or problem with the phone and thus they will refuse to waive the 10% restocking fee.
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post #54 of 62
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This is about as close as we are going to get to Apple publicly acknowledging its royal screw-up.

If only Steve Jobs had the humility to tell everyone he made a mistake instead of saying "you're holding it wrong" or "there is no problem".

LOL. Don't you believe it? Steve says THERE IS NO RECEPTION ISSUE. STAY TUNED*

Stay tuned to what, I have no idea.

*http://gizmodo.com/5573680/steve-job...ue--stay-tuned
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post #55 of 62
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Originally Posted by losgofres View Post

Will someone please scan their receipt and show everyone WHERE it states that Apple charges a 10% restocking fee for iPhones? I'm pretty sure that Apple doesn't charge 10% for returning an iPhone.

Have you actually tried to return a phone to Apple? Yes, there is a restocking fee.

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Apple will assess a 10% restocking fee on any opened iPhone. Shipping fees are not refundable.

http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Im...#iphonereturns



I don't know how much clearer it can get than that.
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post #56 of 62
Very nice....

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There are no connectivity problems.
post #57 of 62
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

I bought a Bumper today. Not because I have an signal loss issues as I have none even when I don't have five bars. I bought it because the much smaller size coupled with the slightly heavier weight and dense feeling materials makes me wonder if I'm going to break it. As Andy Ihhatko stated, it's slippery and the Bumpers give you that added grip and insurance when using it. The metallic buttons on the Bumper make it feel right, too.

Mine has slid off things and nearly on the floor too...I'm waiting for cases that I want but maybe I'll get a bumper in the meantime.

As one of those thousands with the problem I'm still very happy with the phone.
post #58 of 62
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Mine has slid off things and nearly on the floor too...I'm waiting for cases that I want but maybe I'll get a bumper in the meantime.

As one of those thousands with the problem I'm still very happy with the phone.

It's a pretty stylish protector. Of course, it's really only assisting it from sliding and if it falls on a flat or concave surface. If it lands on the glass of anything protruding you might be screwed.

I'm waiting for a new Marware SportShell case for jogging. I sold it with my 3GS and my Mophie Jack Pack Air. I liked them a lot!.

I have to think Mophie will continually lose business as Apple focuses on longer battery life. It's too bad other handset vendors can't use the same case style and as many units so accessory makers can focus on them, too.
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post #59 of 62
No worries, apple is just trying to find an engineer that holds the phone the wrong way. All the good engineers at Apple hold it the right way and totally missed the issue.
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post #60 of 62
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That's going to make the thousands of people who bought a piece of junk nice and happy. They are JUST in the unlucky 1% to spend several hundred dollars on a phone which can not make phone calls when held.

Ok, so what exactly is your problem. You neither have a Iphone nor a Mac and never will. So, why come to apple sites at all, just power up your Winslow or Angriod device be happy with that.
The point is why even debate when you are & will not be a participant of any of it.
You were born like this or time made you.
post #61 of 62
I was a keyboard guy for all my life and not a single day a radio engineer.
Yet my general knowledge of the stuff around baseband processors makes me strongly believe a software fix indeed exists. Sure, at the cost of the perfection of some phone characteristics.

Will not feed ars-style untechnical trolls right now; still will be holding my breath in expectancy Apple see the resolution....

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post #62 of 62
Admittedly, I'm devoted conspiracy theorist and as such I can see quite a number of explanations for this hiring.
  • Radio engineering group enforcement. Perpetual lack of resources in R&D is commonplace. And recent iPhone antenna issues (I'd call the severity medium) might just have finally overwhelmed the tolerance pool.
  • Some guys have been actually fired out as a result of letting antenna issue into the production. I believe it's unimaginable situation that they haven't known. It rather seems being the clear win of IDg.
  • Some have been fired for a bunch of other reasons. The prototype having been drunk away, for one, which we've already forgotten about.

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