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Originally Posted by Boogerman2000

Returned mine today. After having the phone for a few days, I realized that I could live with my 3GS just fine, better in some ways. I found that I prefer the curved, "sticky" plastic back of the 3GS over the newer "boxy" form of iphone 4. -- just easier and more comfortable to hold IMO. The 3GS is also a bit lighter and less "dense" feeling; the trade off for a larger, more robust battery. And yes, I had reception issues from day 1 that did affect call quality. Incidentally, I tried the scotch tape trick which.. worked. I will surely miss that screen though.

..But what bugs me here is the fact that Apple knew that attenuation was going to be an issue(don't kid yourselves otherwise), yet had the balls to introduce the "bumper" for an absurd premium of$30. $14.99, ok fine but $30 is a goddamn insult to it's customers. *end rant*

Originally Posted by solipsism

They sold a case for the newly released iPad, too. They even sold socks for the iPod years ago. I don't think either one of those products indicated that there was an issue with the product. The protection over the antenna is purely coincidental. The device is flat on either end so capping the obvious rim so the glass ends don't touch a flat object makes perfect sense. Again, if the solution is insulation at a single point on the phone and it's known, then selling an expensive accessory is the worst possible way to handle the issue. The only rational conclusion is this isn't some huge conspiracy to sell Bumpers with Jobs sitting in his office crossing his fingers thinking "I hope people don't realize how we designed it to be defective so you'd be forced to by a Bumper."

Also, if they were designed because the external antenna was a problem and they couldn't put a layer of insulating spray over the frame during production, it seems likely that they would have included the Bumper with every iPhone 4, in the box and already on by default. They would have all been black-on-black or white-on-white, allowing the consumer to by the other colours, or maybe nicer ones as accessories. I guarantee you that if this was a "design flaw" the cost of a class action, just for a fraction of the lawyer fees, would be more than all the Bumpers they could have shipped on iPhone 4s in the box from day one. All this conspiracy talk makes no sense if we assume Apple has no idea how people tear their products apart and what people sue them over. I can assure everyone that they most certainly do.


I bought a Bumper today. Not because I have an signal loss issues as I have none even when I don't have five bars. I bought it because the much smaller size coupled with the slightly heavier weight and dense feeling materials makes me wonder if I'm going to break it. As Andy Ihhatko stated, it's slippery and the Bumpers give you that added grip and insurance when using it. The metallic buttons on the Bumper make it feel right, too.

I paid $367.xx (with tax for my iPhone 4. I pay $80/month for AT&T service. I go out to restaurants and pay $50 for a steak and $10-20 for a drink. Since I'm not going to spend money per month for iPhone insurance that also comes with a hefty deductible I'll gladly spend $30 for something that makes me feel assured my investment is protected.


PS: Sold my 3GS on Craig's List for $275. Could have gotten quite a bit more a week earlier. Oh well.

PPS: A bit off topic, but the reason I sold my iPad was the mobileSafari cache issue. That is apparently a definitely bug with all other iOS devices having an unlimited cache and the iPad having 25Kb cache. LOL

http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2010/06/...-cache-limits/

Originally Posted by Boogerman2000

I know, and I'm not trying to demonize Apple or Jobs. They bring amazing products to market and we all appreciate that, quite obviously. You make a convincing point, yet I still have to question their pricing primarily with regards to their peripherals.

I was also afraid of dropping the phone-- another reason I decided to sell. I didn't want to add additional weight with a full case, and didn't feel the bumper would provide enough protection. It's a beautiful device, no doubt about it.

Originally Posted by AppleStud

is "highlighted" code-word for "we had no idea until another site broke the news"?

Originally Posted by g3pro

Fragmentation is not just something we have to acknowledge and accept. Fragmentation is something that we deal with every day, and we must accept it as a fact of the iPhone platform experience.

Steve Jobs

Originally Posted by solipsism

If only there was some way to return it for a refund and a cancelation of their contract or to sell it to some else for a huge profit. These people are so stuck!

Originally Posted by lkrupp

You are succumbing to paranoia and hysteria, which is what almost all conspiracy theorists suffer from. And Bush ordered the World Trade Center to be blown up, right?

Originally Posted by g3pro

Yeah, that 10% restocking fee ain't so bad. Neither is that ETF.

Originally Posted by solipsism

If only there was a way no to legally not pay them because the product didn't work as advertised. What a fucking concept!

Originally Posted by g3pro

This is about as close as we are going to get to Apple publicly acknowledging its royal screw-up.

If only Steve Jobs had the humility to tell everyone he made a mistake instead of saying "you're holding it wrong" or "there is no problem".

Originally Posted by losgofres

Will someone please scan their receipt and show everyone WHERE it states that Apple charges a 10% restocking fee for iPhones? I'm pretty sure that Apple doesn't charge 10% for returning an iPhone.

Originally Posted by Erunno



There are no connectivity problems.

Originally Posted by solipsism

I bought a Bumper today. Not because I have an signal loss issues as I have none even when I don't have five bars. I bought it because the much smaller size coupled with the slightly heavier weight and dense feeling materials makes me wonder if I'm going to break it. As Andy Ihhatko stated, it's slippery and the Bumpers give you that added grip and insurance when using it. The metallic buttons on the Bumper make it feel right, too.

Originally Posted by nht

Mine has slid off things and nearly on the floor too...I'm waiting for cases that I want but maybe I'll get a bumper in the meantime.

As one of those thousands with the problem I'm still very happy with the phone.

Originally Posted by g3pro

That's going to make the thousands of people who bought a piece of junk nice and happy. They are JUST in the unlucky 1% to spend several hundred dollars on a phone which can not make phone calls when held.