Consumer Reports: signal issues not unique iPhone 4, no reason not to buy - Page 3

So what? I am an Apple shareholder too. Big deal.

Some day, you'll climb down from your pathetically cynical and jaded perch, and understand/accept the fact that human beings are actually capable of intellectual honesty.

Because some of us like to be thorough and objective. You should give it a try sometime, you may like it.

Drugs are bad for you, you know.

Haha, you're right. So, either not everyone is owning up to this issue or I really am all alone?

C'mon this discussion reached ridicule already.
: Please?

Well, the big way of reminding him is to BUY SOMETHING ELSE! If it bothers and pains you so much that you cannot be in the least accommodating, you have the freedom to go somewhere else that will suit your needs.

The truth is, There could be several issues here that can get confusing, but the bottom line is if you personally can't use it as a phone, don't get it or return it. Many people can be very accommodating by looking at the relatively low number of complaints. If you want to keep the phone - buy a case. Since there are solutions out there this is really a non-issue.

No issues yet. Guess I'm still holding it wrong and/or my palms aren't sweaty enough.

For $700 I personally think the absolute least it could do is work as a phone without me having to pay attention to where I'm making contact with its frame. It's also a matter of preferring Apple to remain as they have been historically - a producer of quality electronics, not a producer of electronics that are just good enough while still being priced at a premium.

You obviously did not read the thread, or are being frivolous. Please look at post #25, and tell me how you would solve the problem of navigating the web on the iPhone.

I'd bet we can both agree to call him consistently favorable. Like the CR and anandtech's article, he selectively hand-picked the positive pieces.

Or perhaps you have not read the articles that suggest why not everyone will notice an issue.

I honestly don't understand the big backlash against Apple. I mean, I don't like Apple, the company, for various reasons, but I think that the IP4 is absolutely fantastic. I'm glad they decided to roll the dice on this antenna design because it is probably the only solution to achieve the IP4's sleek design.

I prefer form over function, as long as the function part is ok. I don't need face-time, twenty different browsers, an unrestricted marketplace (malware), don't care about megapixels or gigahertzes as long as the pictures are good and the phone isn't sluggish. I don't care if I lose a bar or two if I touch the gap and also don't care if it drops a call in a low-signal scenario, if I touch the gap.

I do care about physical appearance (I'm shallow) and I would never buy a Palm Pre (to plastic-y) or one of those Android variants (never seen one that isn't fat and plastic).

I really liked the first iPhone (glass, aluminum), was so-so about the 3G(s) (plastic) and LOVE the IP4 - feels so solid and, yes, high-end (that's also the main reason I have a current-gen iMac, because I dig that case and the glossy screen - sooooo beautiful. Don't care about the specs - I use it to surf the web, which I could do on a cheap PC but then I would have to deal with a crappy case, a plastic monitor enclosure and a myriad of cables).

Beautiful often equals high maintenance. If the main flaw of the iPhone4 is that I must not touch it in a sensitive spot, then so be it. Call me a stupid Apple fanboy consumer (actually, if there was an HTC that was as thin, sleek and beautiful as the IP4, I'd buy that - I don't have loyalty to Apple - I just like beautiful items). I won't be offended

What a load of crap. You only said it to be suggestive. To be thorough and objective? Bullshit.

If I read the article, will I then not be able to make calls?

I was going to get a bumper anyway for protection....problem solved. Hopefully the IP4 is, indeed, better at transmitting/receiving signals.

However, I think I will wait until the iOS fix is out and see what others see.

: Really?
: Good luck.

Get a Droid Incredible. You'll love it.

Absolutely. I'm suggesting that RF could be affected and effected with ease by a source not shown on that video because I, unlike you, are being objective by exploring and considering all possible reasons for signal loss instead of jumping to wild conclusions based on hard evidence.

Your entire paranoid argument falls apart because your view of my position on this matter would exclude me from making a post about the 3G Spot issue or posting a video detailing it.

Again, you're falling back into trolling mode with your knee-jerk one-liners calling people drug addicts simply for disagreeing with you yet having no viable argument to back up your statement.

he does not own a iphone 4
he just whines for days upon days

JUST GOT IPHONE 4. WORKS GREAT. NO ISSUES, NO YELLOW, NO DROPPED CALLS, NO PROXIMITY PROBLEMS. WHATS UP PEOPLE? I WAS WAITING TO BUY BECAUSE OF ALL THE SUPPOSED ISSUES. IT WOULD BE MORE HELPFUL FOR PEOPLE TO GIVE HONEST REVIEW OF THEIR EXPERIENCES THAN ALL OF THE THEORETICAL CRAP THATS BEING SAID. WHAT REALLY MATTERS IS CAN YOU MAKE CALL, GET TEXTS, INTERNET SEE THE SCREEN, TAKE A PICTURE WHATEVER. IF YOU ARE EXPECTING PHONE TO S#@K YOUR D%*K YOU MIGHT BE DISAPPOINTED.

In the words of our favorite poster, "Bullshit".

You're lying. You're a shareholder.

Apple products have always needed "special" treatment - Remember the first iPhone would not work with standard headphones because of the weird jack?, or that you could get any screen you wanted on an iMac - as long as it was glossy?

Why did you think this would be any different? I'm not knocking Apple, this is their standard MO, and I have learned that you adjust to Apple's way or don't buy it. Complaints get corrected in the next revision.

That being said, put a case on it or return it. If you want a "better" solution, then dropping calls wasn't the real issue.

Maybe he's lying about being a shareholder.

I want an app that will build me an island then transform into a f@#king jet and fly me there.

If you don't get that reference check out these videos...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAOtC9QfXac
BTW, the guy who made those hillarous videos has been suspended from his job at BestBuy and may get fired despite never once mentioning BestBuy.

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http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/new...deo-on-youtube

You used the word "due", as opposed to 'do', in the second to last sentence.

But not to worry, brucep has little room to complain...

'alot' is two words... 'a lot'.

'discusting' should be spelled 'disgusting'.

My iPhone 4 is the BEST!

No, my iPhone 4 is the BEST. I know this to be true because if these forums are anything to go by it's the one out of 2+ Million that actually works.

No! MY iPhone 4 is the best. I fart in your iPhone 4's general direction.

I cannot replicate the problem on mine... I guess for once I have been lucky.

Exactly. People don't seem to understand that the phone can be _more_ reliable and have a more erratic signal at the same time.

Hmmm, I am an Apple Shareholder too. I have been reading all of this because, well, it will affect my Apple stock. J/K, I think this is all a tempest in a teacup. I read one post that seemed the most sensible of all, that Apple sacrificed some design aspects to create new different design aspects. Meaning the antenna design brings in new features and advantages and yet sacrifices some other design issues such as how it is held with a bare hand. And... so??

Look, everyone has choice, there are issues, yes, and there are ways to solve the problem. One, use a case. Each and every friend of mine that has an iPhone has a case, period. (they all have older versions of the iPhone so not for the current issue but to protect the device) Two, if using a case is so repugnant to you, hold it so you don't cover the antenna. Three, you hate that Apple isn't making your mobile phone experience orgasmically perfect? Choose another brand. Yes, choose another brand. (that old yarn about not being able to please all of the people all of the time is true and Apple is wise in not trying to do the impossible)

For me? I don't have an iPhone and am not ever getting one. I work at my home office so I am tied to one place most of the time and my land line is just fine. When I do leave I have a old stupid LG cell phone that can do the internet and text but I do not know how to do that on this phone so I don't even try. I will be getting an iPad 3G so I can be on the internet and text and when I need to talk on the phone I will use the phone. I personally like them to be separate and not in one device. But that is me, I know my friends, (the ones who all have cases for their iPhones) love them and love that they can do it all in one device So good. There is not one thing ever that is going to be the perfect thing for everyone, so choose accordingly.

*ETA* What I meant about J/K was that as a stock holder I am not worried about this issue, but it is true, I am a stockholder, only wish I had more! (I bought when it was in the high 70's)

that VIDEO is funny i must say

Consumer Reports: ‘iPhone 4’s Supposed Signal Woes Aren’t Unique, and May Not Be Serious’


http://daringfireball.net/

Boom!

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Yeah, 'cause only Gizmodo is reporting it? Right, Gruber. Boom? Give me a break.

This post is bugging me so I have to say something. That's fine and dandy that all phones do this, but the iPhone 4 is the first phone I've ever owned that stops working completely when I hold it very lightly. I cannot load data, or make calls when that little black strip is blocked.

Your reply is bugging me so I must respond. Boo F&^%ing Hoo. You have 3 options:

1. Hold it differently (which you seem unable to do)
2. Your phone may be defective - return it
3. Put a case on it.

I'm not making light of your problem, I'm saying you have alternatives to complaining about it. Fix it and get on with your life.

STOP WHINING YOU TROLL!

The above, in capitals, is what twats say, ignore them, they're retards who can't afford iPhones yet.

Get a Droid Incredible - You deserve it.