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Fortune names Apple's Steve Jobs, Jony Ive smartest in tech

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Fortune magazine has compiled a list of what it believes are the smartest people in the technology industry, and topping the list of CEOs is Apple co-founder Steve Jobs, while designer Jony Ive was named smartest designer.

The magazine credited Jobs with bringing Apple from the brink of bankruptcy when he returned in 1997 to great heights. This year, Apple's market cap surpassed Microsoft's, making it the most valuable technology company in the world.

Fortune credited Jobs with reinventing music through iTunes, elevating animated films through Pixar, changing smartphones with the iPhone, and redefining the portable computing space with the iPad.

"Rocking one industry could be luck, but upending four? That's smart," the magazine wrote.

"He is a visionary, a micromanager, and a showman who creates such anticipation around new products that their releases are veritable holidays," author Jessi Hempel wrote. "And Jobs is a pop culture icon like no other business executive: An episode of The Simpsons a few years ago featured a Jobs-like character named Steve Mobs."



"His dictator-like control can cause havoc for partners: Jobs, 55, has decided, for example, that Apple products won't support Adobe Flash, the code most video-heavy websites depend on, leading designers to switch to new tools. But Jobs' vision is also what gives these devices their elegance, causing consumers' hearts to flutter."

And the magazine also named Apple's 43-year-old Ive the smartest designer in tech, crediting him with setting the course for design throughout the tech industry. Ive is Apple's senior vice president of industrial design, and crated the iPod, iPhone and iPad.

"With the launch of his first product, the iMac G3, Ive turned the utilitarian gray desktop computer into a translucent, gumdrop-shaped fashion statement," Hempel wrote.

Jobs finished ahead of Amazon Chief Executive Jeff Bezos, while Ive beat out Nintendo's Shigeru Miyamoto, creator of such beloved game franchises as Mario, Zelda and Donkey Kong.

Last November, Fortune also gave Jobs the title "CEO of the Decade." The magazine lauded him for making Apple a groundbreaking technology leader and the most valuable company in Silicon Valley.
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Smartest guy?
This the same guy that just released a phone that people can't make calls from?
And the other schmuck, is the actual designer of the phone that can't make and reciee calls unless of course you hold it in a certain way.

No way, tell me this can not be true.

Forbes is a loser magazine anyway, sales way down probably near folding!
post #3 of 45
And it took one post for an antennea reference
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The title to this article says Forbes, but then the entire article talks about Fortune. Just wondering which one it is? Fortune or Forbes?
post #5 of 45
This must have been awarded before the iPhone 4 came out.
post #6 of 45
They also failed to mention that Steve Jobs helped create the personal computer industry and then revolutionized the industry with the Macintosh.
post #7 of 45
Well, the smartest unless it comes to antenna design.

Well, if you do not touch that one particular area, the phones is unquestionably better as far as reception, fewer dropped calls and better upload and download speeds in comparison to the previous phones.

So close.
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Originally Posted by 3goldens View Post

Smartest guy?
This the same guy that just released a phone that people can't make calls from?
And the other schmuck, is the actual designer of the phone that can't make and reciee calls unless of course you hold it in a certain way.

No way, tell me this can not be true.

Forbes is a loser magazine anyway, sales way down probably near folding!

3goldens ... What an absolute Richard-cranium you are! Go get a phone designed by Steve Ballmer. You deserve it.
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@Post #1
Being smart does not mean just good in one thing but severals. And it is natural to be bad on a few others as well. The award obviously gave consideration to all things and meritted them accordingly. If you are so annoyed with the antennae issue, save your mind and leave buying (or using, if you already - unfortunately, succumbed to the vibe) the iPhone or any Apple products. Obviously, judging from your post you are not that 'smart'.
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Oh for crying out loud already, its like the iphone 4 is the first and last thing Apple have ever designed. I'm so sick of hearing about it (the antenna). I get mine in a week with any luck and can't wait. Hasn't stopped me from buying it, or 9.5 million others. GEE. Stinks of 'failure' to me??? LOL. Go Steve Jobs. As genius as ever. And Im going to get an element case for my iphone 4 anyway just cos theyre sexy not because I give a toss about some death grip, which ironically enough, has been done to death.
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"And it took one post for an antennea reference."

It's called bib-dribbing and spoon-clanging. Don't knock it: it take a special talent to do both at the same time.
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Originally Posted by 3goldens View Post

Smartest guy?
This the same guy that just released a phone that people can't make calls from?
And the other schmuck, is the actual designer of the phone that can't make and reciee calls unless of course you hold it in a certain way.

No way, tell me this can not be true.

Forbes is a loser magazine anyway, sales way down probably near folding!

Pardon me, but your jealousy is showing. (And you have a spelling problem, no less) reciee? wtf is that?
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... Richard-cranium.....

Good one! Got to remember that one.
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And the magazine also named Apple's 43-year-old Ive the smartest designer in tech, crediting him with setting the course for design throughout the tech industry. Ive is Apple's senior vice president of industrial design, and crated the iPod, iPhone and iPad.

And damn fine.
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...which ironically enough, has been done to death.

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Originally Posted by 3goldens View Post

Smartest guy?
This the same guy that just released a phone that people can't make calls from?
And the other schmuck, is the actual designer of the phone that can't make and reciee calls unless of course you hold it in a certain way.

No way, tell me this can not be true.

Forbes is a loser magazine anyway, sales way down probably near folding!

Often the simplest explanation it the correct one. That would be that you are wrong, and everyone else is right.
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post #17 of 45
Apple sells millions of iPhone 4's and Johnny Ive is a brilliant designer.

I see the world has indeed "moved on" from the antenna issue. Just curious, how did we end up dismissing it? It didn't really happen or it just doesn't matter?

Anybody catch the article over at 9 to 5 Mac about an iP4 catching on fire?
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Originally Posted by 3goldens View Post

Smartest guy?
This the same guy that just released a phone that people can't make calls from?
And the other schmuck, is the actual designer of the phone that can't make and reciee calls unless of course you hold it in a certain way.

No way, tell me this can not be true.

Forbes is a loser magazine anyway, sales way down probably near folding!

And you are, what? 14?
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Originally Posted by 3goldens View Post

Smartest guy?
This the same guy that just released a phone that people can't make calls from?
And the other schmuck, is the actual designer of the phone that can't make and reciee calls unless of course you hold it in a certain way.

No way, tell me this can not be true.

Forbes is a loser magazine anyway, sales way down probably near folding!

Well, it seams that every second of every day, 3 new iphone 4s end up in the hands of people that disagree with you. 3 million so far and counting.
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Originally Posted by 3goldens View Post

Smartest guy?
This the same guy that just released a phone that people can't make calls from?
And the other schmuck, is the actual designer of the phone that can't make and reciee calls unless of course you hold it in a certain way.
No way, tell me this can not be true.
Forbes is a loser magazine anyway, sales way down probably near folding!

someone doesn't like apple.
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Originally Posted by Jerseymac View Post

Apple sells millions of iPhone 4's and Johnny Ive is a brilliant designer.

I see the world has indeed "moved on" from the antenna issue. Just curious, how did we end up dismissing it? It didn't really happen or it just doesn't matter?

Anybody catch the article over at 9 to 5 Mac about an iP4 catching on fire?

Perhaps people are using the phone more and realizing it's not nearly as big of a deal as it was made out to be
post #22 of 45
Steve's "Genius" is mainly in user interaction and process work flow in my eyes. His targeted vision that has made all of Apple's products work together seemlessly is his mark on the industry. A lot of people criticize his tight grip on the products/apps, but that's the only way to achieve such a high level of great user interaction and product performance.

Please drop the antenna issue already. I saw a you tube video that showed a guy using his IP4 with the "Death Grip", no bars, call was on speakerphone, and it was just as clear as with 5 bars. My buddy has no issues. Get over it!

Thank you!
post #23 of 45
Forbes has put it well. Steve Jobs has truly changed 4 different industries. He really has forsight into product developement. And while people look to pick on faults there is no denying that he is a genius. The best part was how forbes said how anticipation around new products turn into holidays. It's true people look forward to APPLES new product launches with more anticipation than a holiday.
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Take your Nexus One phone and place your thumb over the bottom right corner and watch your bars drop. Then take a piece of masking tape and write iPhone on it and place it over the Nexus One name so that you can say "See my iPhone sucks"
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SMARTEST DESIGNER ??? LOL

award was givin out before the iPhone 4 hit the streets.

iPhone 4 -- ya know the one made of glass ???!!!

iPhone 4 -- ya know the one with the exposed attenna ???!!!

maybe Jonny can blame this being drunk on the kool aid or his own jesus urine


up until iPhone 4, I would agree. but this has been one huge fk up.





I'll go hide under my desk now while the fanbois shoot flames and lasers at me.
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SMARTEST DESIGNER ??? LOL
award was givin out before the iPhone 4 hit the streets.
iPhone 4 -- ya know the one made of glass ???!!!
iPhone 4 -- ya know the one with the exposed attenna ???!!!
maybe Jonny can blame this being drunk on the kool aid or his own jesus urine
up until iPhone 4, I would agree. but this has been one huge fk up.



I'll go hide under my desk now while the fanbois shoot flames and lasers at me.

Since when is it being made of glass an issue? You know plastic breaks if dropped too?! (shooting flames, lasers, lightning bolts)
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Originally Posted by Jerseymac View Post

Apple sells millions of iPhone 4's and Johnny Ive is a brilliant designer.

I see the world has indeed "moved on" from the antenna issue. Just curious, how did we end up dismissing it? It didn't really happen or it just doesn't matter?

Anybody catch the article over at 9 to 5 Mac about an iP4 catching on fire?

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Perhaps people are using the phone more and realizing it's not nearly as big of a deal as it was made out to be

Okay, we're going with "it just doesn't matter."

Thanks. I just needed the official line. As someone who totes a MacBook around at work, I am expected to answer for the company.
post #28 of 45
I would like to know what changes Steve insisted were made to the iPad. I read somewhere that the launch was delayed because when they brought the first version to him he said it needed a number of major changes. Would be fascinated to know what these changes were as I think it would be highly indicative of his impact on the firm.
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4 different industries - Amazing!

I'm loving my iPhone 4, iPad, and Mac Mini...
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up until iPhone 4, I would agree. but this has been one huge fk up.

Another incisive, penetrating iPhone 4 analysis from someone who's obviously never used one.

FWIW I own an iPhone 4, can make it do the antenna thing at will, and don't find it much more than a curiosity. It's easy to avoid if your IQ is higher than a watermelon's. Or use a case, as many people would anyway.

I guess having glass on both sides theoretically doubles the chance of glass breakage. But jeez, these are very expensive pieces of kit, not Fisher Price kiddy toys. If you take proper care of them then doubling the very small chance of breakage will still be a very small chance of breakage.
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Another incisive, penetrating iPhone 4 analysis from someone who's obviously never used one.

FWIW I own an iPhone 4, can make it do the antenna thing at will, and don't find it much more than a curiosity. It's easy to avoid if your IQ is higher than a watermelon's. Or use a case, as many people would anyway.

I guess having glass on both sides theoretically doubles the chance of glass breakage. But jeez, these are very expensive pieces of kit, not Fisher Price kiddy toys. If you take proper care of them then doubling the very small chance of breakage will still be a very small chance of breakage.

My IQ must be even lower than a melon's... I can't get my bars to drop at all.
post #32 of 45
Steve Jobs and Jony Ive get my vote. And I predict the iPhone 4 will win some awards too. It will put a "death grip" on the competition....especially when Verizon comes on board.
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Steve Jobs and Jony Ive get my vote. And I predict the iPhone 4 will win some awards too. It will put a "death grip" on the competition....especially when Verizon comes on board.

lol...
post #34 of 45
One doesn't have to love or even like Apple products over the last 13 years to appreciate two things:

1) Jobs has a unique ability to drive an idea through to full execution - from idea to design to production to marketing to sale - that any consumer product company can only envy. Love or hate the product, but he has repeatedly achieved commercial success.

2) Ive is nothing short of an artist in industrial design - a sentiment almost unilaterally felt by his peers.

You will pardon those of us who give anonymous forum posters only their fair due who disagree with the underlying pinnings of the Forbes ranking.
post #35 of 45
How about YOU are a Loset !

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Originally Posted by 3goldens View Post

Smartest guy?
This the same guy that just released a phone that people can't make calls from?
And the other schmuck, is the actual designer of the phone that can't make and reciee calls unless of course you hold it in a certain way.

No way, tell me this can not be true.

Forbes is a loser magazine anyway, sales way down probably near folding!
post #36 of 45
I just love replies like many here, that have absolutely nothing to do with the article at hand.

It gives me so many more posters to add to my Ignore List.

And yeah, there's an iPhone 4 app for that too.
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Smartest guy?
This the same guy that just released a phone that people can't make calls from?
And the other schmuck, is the actual designer of the phone that can't make and reciee calls unless of course you hold it in a certain way.

No way, tell me this can not be true.

Forbes is a loser magazine anyway, sales way down probably near folding!


How is your shiny new Kin phone working out for you...oh wait.
post #38 of 45
I'm not flaming you, but I am curious if you have first hand experience with the iPhone 4. Cuz if you don't, that would make you and inverse fanboi, just the sort of person who spouts off without any real knowledge of the topic.

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SMARTEST DESIGNER ??? LOL

award was givin out before the iPhone 4 hit the streets.

iPhone 4 -- ya know the one made of glass ???!!!

iPhone 4 -- ya know the one with the exposed attenna ???!!!

maybe Jonny can blame this being drunk on the kool aid or his own jesus urine


up until iPhone 4, I would agree. but this has been one huge fk up.





I'll go hide under my desk now while the fanbois shoot flames and lasers at me.
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I'll go hide under my desk now while the fanbois shoot flames and lasers at me.

Pew pew

Why not mention other failures. The Cube for example or my personal favorite. The puck mouse or perhaps just the mouse.

The phone just isn't a strong example because it's a problem all mobile phones face. The mouse on the other hand has been done fairly well by plenty and yet Apple has only just made a mostly usable one after decades of struggle.
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Okay, we're going with "it just doesn't matter."

Thanks. I just needed the official line. As someone who totes a MacBook around at work, I am expected to answer for the company.

Oh, this is what I say, ready? "I've had the phone for over two weeks now and there isn't really a problem. I haven't had any problems with any of my calls."

You don't have one you say? Here's what you say: "I don't know. I don't have one yet, so I couldn't really answer you from firsthand knowledge. I know the press is all over them, but I haven't heard anything lately. From what I've read from Anandtech and Consumer's Reports, the iPhone antenna issue is much ado about nothing."
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