I'm inclined to believe those images are real because there are no fires, no looting, and no people being harmed while screaming "no justice, no peace" due to a perceived racial slight.
Originally Posted by FormerLurker Nope - definitely no elements of racism here!!!
I'd say no because again, I addressed caricature but you have ignored it. It's pretty easy to see why the Democrats want to ignore that though. They'd rather keep screaming racism because if they stop screaming it the country might wake up to the TRILLIONS that have now been spent and we still have no jobs to show for it.
No budget, no jobs, a health care bill that is already showing what will happen in Massachusetts and this result is terrible. People might hold Democrats accountable for their own actions if someone stops screaming racist at the top of their lungs.
When you've got only one card left to deal, I guess you just keep dealing it over and over.
Originally Posted by FormerLurker
No. You are wrong And you are quite possibly lying about your understanding of what editing is. And I'm not the one that keeps diverting the discussion - you and Camp David are the ones who keeps trying to deny the video was edited... when even the poster child for rightwing media says specifically that the video was edited
Someone selected the exact portions of the video to keep, and which portions to discard. This selection process is commonly called "editing". It is you that are attempting to muddy the discussion - and now you've picked up the new tactic of trying to differentiate between light editing and heavy editing. The tape was edited - period. The editor of the tape specifically chose to show the portions of the story that would make the subject appear to be admitting to racism affecting the performance of her federal job.
I've addressed the editing bit. I'm not going to repeat myself. Nothing about what the woman said has been altered. Worse still you can hear the NAACP patrons in the room LAUGHING at the fact that she was admitting to mistreating this couple. An organization that condemns a picture of Barack Obama as Hitler laughs at the story of a white couple almost losing their farm.
The subject did admit to racism. She later attempts to atone for it in her her own words and declares that her racism was okay because she didn't understand it was about classism at times.
To argue otherwise is to demonstrate the degree to which some will go to bend reality to fit their political narrative. You can continue to spin all the denials of simple fact you want - I'm done with this particular question. It was edited, and I am not going to argue that point any longer with those who choose to ignore the basic definition of the word.
There are definitions for video editing, print editing, technical editing, etc. Piss and moan all you want about it.
I'm not even going to give you the satisfaction of a detailed debunking of your ridiculous attempt to set class-warfare bait by putting words in the woman's mouth. So... yes, you're right... the evil class-warrior woman who worked for the evil nonprofit was trying to help a scheming peasant family keep its farm at the expense of the wealthy nobles in the boardroom at the bank. And everyone who has ever volunteered or taken a job providing assistance to poor people in any way is engaging in class warfare. Yep - got it - makes perfect sense.
Well silly, she took that job to help black people, who by her own admission and definition were the only poor people. Then per her story a curious thing happened. In came this white man and he was GASP poor too. This did not reconcile with her own reasoning which says that whitey is hateful, greedy and rich. She thus did not do what she ought to for the man and referred him to "one of his own" aka a white lawyer to help him file bankruptcy. The lawyer apparently didn't help the man, I'd guess it was probably because he had no MONEY. This again confounded her. A white person with no money.....hmmmmmmm.... I don't think that can happen. It was even more puzzling because she had referred him to "one of his own" which means she sent him to someone white. If one white person doesn't have money and another does, they would certainly just give him some just for being white right? That wasn't true and so she was stumped again.
Then she came to this incredible realization and demonstrates it in her story. Here is that incredible realization. WHITE PEOPLE CAN BE POOR TOO! So since by definition her job was to help poor people, she actually.... did her job and she is now so enlightened because she realizes it is about money sometimes instead of about race all the time.
I’m beginning to think that “trumpt” is a synonym for “straw” in some obscure language or dialect somewhere.
You're so cute when you get angry because regardless of soundbite or full version this woman was deplorable.
I don't know why I'm bothering to continue a discussion with a bunch of reality-denying soldiers of rightwing political propaganda. No wonder I'm the only non-conservative with anything to say on the matter. I think I'll just go back to lurking and watching you all gang up on Jimmac. This place isn't just overrun by rightwing extremists, it's nothing but a complete rightwing circle jerk.
I agree that this place is largely filled with people critical of the outcomes of the policies of the Democratic Congress and President Barack Obama. All those people who once upon a time swore we were just pissing soar grapes because he would "fix" what Bush had wrought, would end the wars, reinvest in American and thanks to the timing of the recession plus his stimulus plan, be credited with helping the economy roar back before the midterms thus locking in Democratic gains for a GENERATION, are mostly gone. I think it is because thanks to Obama they have no job and thus no internet, or perhaps they simply don't care to play the race card to distract from his failures. Worst of all perhaps they might be a racist too because you know, they are critical of him, want a job and GASP, think someone else might do a better job than Obama and the Democrats have done.
Originally Posted by FormerLurker
The video specifically claims in its opening titles that is about her practicing discrimination in her capacity with the USDA:“On July 25, 2009, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack appointed Shirley Sherrod as Georgia Director of Rural Development”
“USDA Rural Development spends over $1.2 Billion in the State of Georgia each year.”
“Ms. Sherrod admits that in her federally appointed position overseeing over a billion dollars…”
“She discriminates against people due to their race.”
These specific accusations have been proven to be false, as the incident was 24 years ago and she didn't work for the USDA (or any other branch of the Federal Government) at the time.
Of course, that would be clear if the video showed her entire story, instead of carefully selected portions of it. I guess some magic process was used to isolate those certain portions of her story from the rest of her story.... because it definitely wasn't "edited", right?
You're making your own point and then disproving it. Criticizing racist elements within the Tea Party
is not the same as calling the entire Tea Party racist.
The posted photos above of signs being carried at Tea Party protests make it clear that there are some
protestors (or... elements within the Tea Party)
who are racist. There is no "context" that is being omitted from their signs to make them appear racist.
Again - racist elements within the Tea Party
the entire Tea Party. Not
every individual member of the Tea Party.
There are some protesters who have a poor sense of humor. A sign calling the government the master and the rest of us slaves would never be considered racist for example if someone were not trying to claim and play the race card. It would easily be understood as analogy. Those who wish to silence dissention always claim race and you are one of them. You were asked what forms of caricature would be permissible to represent Obama and you have not answered. Reagan clearly had elements of his plans labeled as voodoo economics. I'm sure if we had the internet and digital cameras galore at that time it would be easy to find the photos. Bush was portrayed as Hitler, as a dunce, as a drunk, and as a MONKEY thousands of times. They aren't even hard to find.
Bush is monkey = not racist. Obama is monkey = you are a racist. Caricature is part of being president. People are going to do it and they are going to incorporate elements of your ethnicity, religion and physical attributes into it as well.
It is hilarious that you use a HEAVILY EDITED video from an organization known to engage in slander to try to make your point.This video right here
, discredits that entire claim. So does this one which shows
the man choosing his words poor has a black wife and a biracial son and notes he is talking about his heart not his skin. It shows they intentionally heavily edited their video of events. It shows they did exactly what you claimed Breitbart did only he didn't and they did. The agenda couldn't be more clear. Likewise remember that the few images, signs and video SNIPPETS that were managed to be gathered all occurred at a time when leftist groups declared they were going to infiltrate the tea party gatherings and pose as racists to be photographed.
Maybe you should just ask yourself why the racist on video doesn't even have the packaging fold lines out of his supposedly well loved and well worn Nazi t-shirt. That is why the wonderful sign already was prepared to point at FAKE infiltrators. It was announced. A few of them showed up. The nonsense around them was documented and many were chased away but if you wanted to say, take some snippets and ignore that fact then you would be... THINK PROGRESS.
I was honestly shocked she ever resigned in the first place. Democrats never resign for doing stuff wrong. Only Republicans feel remorse for actually violating their values. Democrats just pretend to have them to get elected. Then they bang staffers, or cheat on their wife who has cancer WHILE running for president, or they let prostitution rings be run out of their home, or they assault their masseuses and then go about their normal business.