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A new rumor has stated that Apple will release an iPhone software update in the form of iOS 4.0.1 on Thursday, a day before the company has scheduled a press conference to talk about the iPhone 4.

Citing a "reliable source," Greek-language iPhone website iPhone Hellas (via Google Translate) reported on Thursday that iPhone OS 4.0.1 will be released publicly today. The report speculated that, despite the different reported version number, it could actually be the same iOS 4.1 beta seeded to developers on Wednesday.

"The final version of 4.1 will be released much later, probably in September, after several beta versions," they wrote.

Back in 2008, the same website correctly forecast the release of iPhone OS 2.2 10 days in advance.

If the latest rumor is true, the timing is interesting, considering the fact that Apple has scheduled a press conference on its Cupertino, Calif., campus for Friday. Though the company has not revealed the purpose of the event, it is expected to deal with antenna issues experienced by a number of iPhone 4 owners.

The iOS 4.1 beta seeded to developers on Wednesday included, as was expected, a fix for how the software reports bars of signal strength. In the new version, bars more accurately portray signal, and the bars at the low end of the scale are taller, making them easier to read.
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There are APIs and new minor features in the new beta that aren't appropriate for a 4.0.1 release considering they are planned for iOS 4.1. It won't be the beta. But it might have the beta's changes to those key areas.
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This makes no sense. 4.01 is the same as 4.1 but release 4.01 to the public and release the same version naming it 4.1 in beta to devs. So basically the public gets a beta build with possible bugs instead of a gold master version? Who comes up with this tripe?
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This makes no sense. 4.01 is the same as 4.1 but release 4.01 to the public and release the same version naming it 4.1 in beta to devs. So basically the public gets a beta build with possible bugs instead of a gold master version? Who comes up with this tripe?

Agreed; first the 11" MacBook Air and now this. It's almost as if a monkey is in a backroom making this crap up and feeding it to the press.
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What?

But talking about iOS 4 when will the iPad get it?

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This makes no sense. 4.01 is the same as 4.1 but release 4.01 to the public and release the same version naming it 4.1 in beta to devs. So basically the public gets a beta build with possible bugs instead of a gold master version? Who comes up with this tripe?

I think it does make sense. 4.01 might just be internal updates to solve hot issues, where 4.1 appears to be more API level updates that us developers must run through, get used to and verify.
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I think it does make sense. 4.01 might just be internal updates to solve hot issues, where 4.1 appears to be more API level updates that us developers must run through, get used to and verify.

Exactly.
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i hope this addresses some of the dog slow reduce responsiveness of my 2 iphone 3g
wish i could go back to 3.x till i get my new iphone 4's this late fall.
hope hope hope
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I think it does make sense. 4.01 might just be internal updates to solve hot issues, where 4.1 appears to be more API level updates that us developers must run through, get used to and verify.

The problem isn't with the concept of a 4.0.1 release just to fix that issue.

The problem is with the concept that they will release a beta that actually IS the 4.1 release (with those APIs you speak of) AS the 4.0.1 bugfix.

Just because the new beta has the updates that will be applied in the 4.0.1 release doesn't mean that the 4.1 beta IS the 4.0.1 release. From an operating system development perspective the entire idea is just stupid.
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The problem isn't with the concept of a 4.0.1 release just to fix that issue.

The problem is with the concept that they will release a beta that actually IS the 4.1 release (with those APIs you speak of) AS the 4.0.1 bugfix.

Just because the new beta has the updates that will be applied in the 4.0.1 release doesn't mean that the 4.1 beta IS the 4.0.1 release. From an operating system development perspective the entire idea is just stupid.

And, the 4.0.1 release may yet even have updates that are not yet rolled into 4.1.
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people will stop complaining about holding the phone "wrong" dropping their signal from 5 bars to no service... they will complain about dropping their signal from three bars to no service.

[not to mention the 2 million people who have no idea about the death grip issue who will complain that after the software update "their reception is far worse - they only get two bars where they used to get four".]
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I really hope this does pan out today. Personally, I'm also hoping for a fix for the proximity sensor issue. I think this is a bigger issue for me than any reception problem.
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And, the 4.0.1 release may yet even have updates that are not yet rolled into 4.1.

Hmm..doubt it. I know we ('we' are not Apple) typically backport fixes rather than fixing the older revisions first.
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Hmm..doubt it. I know we ('we' are not Apple) typically backport fixes rather than fixing the older revisions first.

well, for a high profile issue like this, it would make more sense to make the changes in the more stable of two branches, which would not be the beta, and then merge it into the less stable later.
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I think it does make sense. 4.01 might just be internal updates to solve hot issues, where 4.1 appears to be more API level updates that us developers must run through, get used to and verify.

That certainly would make sense. 4.01 equaling 4.1 defeats the whole purpose of version numbering doesn't it?
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Is it just me, or could this press event be intended to announce more details about the non-us release of the iphone 4?
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Is it just me, or could this press event be intended to announce more details about the non-us release of the iphone 4?

Well, since it's purportedly a press conference, not just a statement, it'll likely end up being about whatever the press ask questions about.
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people will stop complaining about holding the phone "wrong" dropping their signal from 5 bars to no service... they will complain about dropping their signal from three bars to no service.

[not to mention the 2 million people who have no idea about the death grip issue who will complain that after the software update "their reception is far worse - they only get two bars where they used to get four".]

Exactly same thoughts ....
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Exactly same thoughts ....

If there's not a reception fix and only this cosmetic one then Apple will be trying to pass the buck to AT&T.
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Signal strength is losing 20-30 db by applying a death grip. Funny how they "disabled" field test mode
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If, at the same time, they could release an iOS 3 downgrade for iPhone 3G owners (v4 is too slow on this model) it would be greatly appreciated.
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If, at the same time, they could release an iOS 3 downgrade for iPhone 3G owners (v4 is too slow on this model) it would be greatly appreciated.

i know a few people who definitely agree with you. sadly, if you want a speedy os, you need to buy an iPhone4. i doubt Apple will allow a downgrade that will keep people from purchasing new hardware and making them money.
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Store.app.com is showing 5-7 days for delivery on the bumpers.

I could see Apple announcing at the press conference Friday that the software update will correct the software aspect of the antenna issue and that either free or significantly reduced (currently an obscene $29) bumpers will correct the hardware aspect.

Apple has a lot of room to move on the bumpers; I can't imagine their cost is more than $2 or $3 a unit. I think they'll either send everyone who has already bought an iPod 4 a free bumper and include bumbers with new sales or drop the price to $5 and let everyone who has already bought one have a credit for the difference.
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i know a few people who definitely agree with you. sadly, if you want a speedy os, you need to buy an iPhone4. i doubt Apple will allow a downgrade that will keep people from purchasing new hardware and making them money.

Yeah, I know it's an old phone, but I use my iPad for apps now, so the phone is really just for email, IM, occasional web. Would be a waste to upgrade.

The fact that they disabled some features on the 3G should have been a hint that it would be at best borderline acceptable performance, but I took a leap of faith. Unfortunately I think they made the wrong call and iOS 4 should have minimum system requirements of a 3GS.
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Store.app.com is showing 5-7 days for delivery on the bumpers.

I could see Apple announcing at the press conference Friday that the software update will correct the software aspect of the antenna issue and that either free or significantly reduced (currently an obscene $29) bumpers will correct the hardware aspect.

Apple has a lot of room to move on the bumpers; I can't imagine their cost is more than $2 or $3 a unit. I think they'll either send everyone who has already bought an iPod 4 a free bumper and include bumbers with new sales or drop the price to $5 and let everyone who has already bought one have a credit for the difference.

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You're right though. I don't think those bumpers could even cost $2 to make.
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Yeah, I know it's an old phone,

the 3G was released "brand new" 24 months [and 4 days] ago.
some 3G owners only bought their phones 13 months ago. that's not very old.
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the 3G was released "brand new" 24 months [and 4 days] ago.
some 3G owners only bought their phones 13 months ago. that's not very old.

Well it depends how many "phone years" there are in a "human year" :-)
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Apple has something up their sleeves. All of you naysayers are about to feel so stupid when the SOFTWARE update comes out and Steve comes out on Friday to announce that it has been completely fixed.

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i hope this addresses some of the dog slow reduce responsiveness of my 2 iphone 3g
wish i could go back to 3.x till i get my new iphone 4's this late fall.
hope hope hope

+1 to that sentiment. I've been rebooting my iPhone 3G every few days to keep the performance at a reasonable level. Any time the music player starts to stall or internal apps (such as the web browser) start to crash I know it is time for another reboot. This leaves me to think iOS 4.0 may have a memory leak which is really apparent on the 128MB devices.
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Signal strength is losing 20-30 db by applying a death grip. Funny how they "disabled" field test mode

Try to stay in reality dude, this is total BS you've written here.

In the first place, the figure going around is 20 db, not 30 (you just made that part up), and the people that originated the claim have already been soundly debunked. The signal *doesn't* drop by 20db "just by holding the phone" and no one ever claimed it dropped by 30 db at all.
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the 3G was released "brand new" 24 months [and 4 days] ago.
some 3G owners only bought their phones 13 months ago. that's not very old.

Huh, see these phones are aging very fast nowadays. I have my 3G upgraded too, and it was rather unresponsive after that. A complete shut down and reboot helped a lot but it didn't really reach the swiftness it use to have. But WTH I just wanted to see some of the new features. And more importent I couldn't wait for the iP4 rollout in my country. Pure impatience.
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What?

But talking about iOS 4 when will the iPad get it?

Yeah really. Why can't the give us 3.2.1 to add folder creation to the iPad now? I have such a need for folders it isn't funny.

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They are highly precision. They are made of at least three different materials, all blended together to work perfectly. They are engineered to last as long as the phone itself.

Generally, products cost about 25% of the retail price to manufacture. Keep in mind that Apple also has distribution and retail costs. Those Geniuses are not cheap!

All the other cases cost at least as much as the Bumper, and those companies don't have the expense of running retail stores. I don't understand why people attack Apple for making such a nice accessory!

Thanks for saying this. I don't know why people keep slamming on the bumper case either. It's probably a sociological thing because it's completely illogical.

Even if it's true that their margin is 85% (which is the rumoured figure for all cases of this type), all the other case manufacturers are in the same boat. The iPhone has been around for four years and cases have always cost roughly 20-30 dollars from almost all manufacturers. Supposedly 75% of all customers put their phone in a case also (not sure why there are that many that feel the need).

It makes no sense at all to be totally fine with four years worth of 30 dollar cases from all the other manufacturers, but then be pissed off at Apple (and *only* Apple apparently), for making a $30 case of their own.

People just want to find something to hate Apple over is all. Sour Grapes, Jealousy, Perverse love, whatever.
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Yeah really. Why can't the give us 3.2.1 to add folder creation to the iPad now? I have such a need for folders it isn't funny.

Folders, Bah!

I have totally given up on organising the icons on the iPad at all. What's the point when they all rearrange every time you turn the device? So far this is one of my biggest disappointments with the iPad, since it is just one of the many things that makes it almost impossible to use the iPad for any serious computing.

I admit I still like it as a reader, movie thing, and (especially) a comic book reader, but as a real computer that you can use to do stuff on like writing for example... not so much.

The iPad is exactly as useful a computer as an iMac running 10.1 was when that came out. Looks good, fun to use, easy to see a bright future ahead etc., but for the moment, basically a tech demo more than a useful computer.
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For all of you who want to go back to iOS 3.1.3, one of the sites posted a How-To on it.

I know my iPod touch 2G is slower, but I put up with it for the new features - mainly folders and the universal inbox.

But, it sucks the battery life down by half. THAT is why I'm seriously considering going back to iOS 3.
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Store.app.com is showing 5-7 days for delivery on the bumpers.

I could see Apple announcing at the press conference Friday that the software update will correct the software aspect of the antenna issue and that either free or significantly reduced (currently an obscene $29) bumpers will correct the hardware aspect.

Apple has a lot of room to move on the bumpers; I can't imagine their cost is more than $2 or $3 a unit. I think they'll either send everyone who has already bought an iPod 4 a free bumper and include bumbers with new sales or drop the price to $5 and let everyone who has already bought one have a credit for the difference.

I think you're on to something. Here's my take:

Here's what I think:

Apple, unlike CR, is going to come out with a detailed fact sheet comparing every single phone out there in terms of reception, hand position, etcetera. They are going to PROVE beyond a shadow of a doubt that the antenna in the iPhone 4 is superior to anything else out there when the phone is held in a certain way, and is at least the equal of anything out there when the antenna is covered. They are also going to acknowledge that the addition of a bumper will enhance the ability of the phone to "hold" a signal.

And then they are going to offer a free bumper guard to anyone who wishes one in order to ensure that the iPhone will always give the best possible signal of any cellphone.

IMHO.
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Folders, Bah!

I have totally given up on organising the icons on the iPad at all. What's the point when they all rearrange every time you turn the device? So far this is one of my biggest disappointments with the iPad, since it is just one of the many things that makes it almost impossible to use the iPad for any serious computing.

I admit I still like it as a reader, movie thing, and (especially) a comic book reader, but as a real computer that you can use to do stuff on like writing for example... not so much.

The iPad is exactly as useful a computer as an iMac running 10.1 was when that came out. Looks good, fun to use, easy to see a bright future ahead etc., but for the moment, basically a tech demo more than a useful computer.

You DO realize that you can "lock" the iPad in positon so that it doesn't "rotate" when you turn it, don't you? And you DO realize that what "fits" in landscape can't possibly fit in portrait, don't you?

Or maybe you can rotate your computer and it automatically adjusts the icons for you.

But if you think it's such a big deal, you should make an app that "sorts" the icons in some predetermined manner. Then you can actually turn this "problem" into an "opportunity".
post #39 of 49
I'm not sure they're going to try and defend themselves this time. It's time for them to own this. That is the same thing any respectable company would do at this point, and let's be honest....that's what Apple is.

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I'll be (pleasantly) surprised if the update comes out today. What I think is more likely is that Jobs announces the update, and then tells us how many they've sold along with high customer satisfaction so we're all to stop whining now.
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