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post #41 of 97
7/22/10 at 3:56pm
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Originally Posted by bluevoid View Post

Have fun with the eye strain from the incredibly heavy, grainy/sparkly matte coating of every other IPS panel out there, then.

I already stare at an Apple matte IPS panel every day for about 10 hours without eye strain, I don't know why a matte iMac would be any different.
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post #42 of 97
7/22/10 at 4:02pm
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Originally Posted by wizard69 View Post

As to the screen itself, please stick with the crisp high resolution IPS displays and ignore the whining from the idiots claim such eyes hurt their eyes or in some manner offends their senses. In this case I'm speaking from experience here, matte screens leave a lot to be desired. Your primary focus should be on more pixels and increasing dynamic range.

It's not whining, it's common sense. Reflections suck. It's too bad you ruined an otherwise good post with this comment. Experience, my a$$.
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post #43 of 97
7/22/10 at 4:05pm
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Originally Posted by wizard69 View Post

ignore the whining from the idiots claim such eyes hurt their eyes or in some manner offends their senses. In this case I'm speaking from experience here, matte screens leave a lot to be desired.

Thanks, I don't why I assumed my personal experience was valid with respect to matte vs glossy. Now I know better, I should just stop whining, enjoy the pain, and forget the ~10 years of using matte LCD screens without issue.
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post #44 of 97
7/22/10 at 4:19pm
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Originally Posted by Shaine_Michael View Post

How's this for a powerhouse dream iMac...

30" LED screen(matte optional)
3.2GHz 6-core Intel Core i7
32GB RAM maximum
Nvidia GeForce GTX 285 dedicated GPU
512GB SSD system drive
2TB HDD
6 USB 3.0 ports
1 FW3200 port
Mini DisplayPort
eSata port
media card slot
gigabit ethernet port
optical audio i/o
BluRay Superdrive
Apple EXTENDED wireless keyboard with integrated MULTITOUCH TRACKPAD

wow you have used the word "port" way to much to make this a realistic Apple device. Also 6 USB Ports? Don't know how many the current one has but for me 2 are way sufficient. (Have my external harddrives connected to my Airport)
BluRay keep dreaming
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post #45 of 97
7/22/10 at 4:21pm
Where's the frick are the Mac Pros? This is getting ridiculous.

My last hope is SIGGRAPH next week. Certainly that would be the perfect timing for Apple to announce new Mac Pros!
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post #46 of 97
7/22/10 at 4:22pm
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Originally Posted by Shaine_Michael View Post

How's this for a powerhouse dream iMac...

30" LED screen(matte optional)
3.2GHz 6-core Intel Core i7
32GB RAM maximum
Nvidia GeForce GTX 285 dedicated GPU
512GB SSD system drive
2TB HDD
6 USB 3.0 ports
1 FW3200 port
Mini DisplayPort
eSata port
media card slot
gigabit ethernet port
optical audio i/o
BluRay Superdrive
Apple EXTENDED wireless keyboard with integrated MULTITOUCH TRACKPAD

Sure... for $4000.
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post #47 of 97
7/22/10 at 4:45pm
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Originally Posted by mytdave View Post

I hate glossy screens. The best upgrade Apple could do here (and with everything they make that has a screen) is provide a matte screen option.

Agreed. I've bought 20 inch glossy after my first generation Core2Duo White iMac died and I hate it as much as I expected. :-( I want a matte option.
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post #48 of 97
7/22/10 at 4:57pm
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Originally Posted by wizard69 View Post

Finally it would be really nice to see LightPeak in the iMac. Copper interconnects like USB3 and FireWire have really hit a dead end. Gives us an iMac update that will have a future. It is not that the faster copper standards won't work, they do to some extent, it's just that you don't want to be buying peripheral hardware built around a deadens tech.

Uhh... USB 3 doesn't just use copper connecters - I believe it has a fibre component or something as well. The copper is there to carry power and provide the backwards compatiabilty to USB 2...

Other than that, I couldn't agree with you more on your other points.

I think some of the people whining about the non availability of matte displays need to remember the iMac is a consumer machine, and the panels in them aren't professional grade panels anyways. So stop asking for pro features in a consumer box, buy a mac pro and pair it with whatever screen you like - buy well, and the screen will probably outlast the computer anyways...
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Windows 7 24"/2.00ghz/2.5gb/250gb/9800GT.
Ubuntu 10.04 Dell Latitude D620.
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post #49 of 97
7/22/10 at 5:07pm
If Apple wants to make iMacs resemble the unibody MacBook Pro styling, then they should make iMacs with a removable back panel to enable easy access to the hard drive and optical drive.
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post #50 of 97
7/22/10 at 5:07pm
I guess the new glass-sandwich-with-aluminum-band iMac will have the power on/off switch as a small black strip on the lower-left corner
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post #51 of 97
7/22/10 at 5:39pm
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Originally Posted by Undo Redo View Post

Seconded. I can't buy an iMac until then. \

Triple that. No iMac without BTO matte. 2-3 iMacs right now with matte.
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post #52 of 97
7/22/10 at 5:46pm
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Originally Posted by estolinski View Post

If they could figure out how to make it look like a big iPhone that would be one sexy beast!

Isn't a new iMac all but guaranteed to look like a big iPad?
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post #53 of 97
7/22/10 at 6:00pm
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Originally Posted by pyriX View Post

I think some of the people whining about the non availability of matte displays need to remember the iMac is a consumer machine, and the panels in them aren't professional grade panels anyways. So stop asking for pro features in a consumer box, buy a mac pro and pair it with whatever screen you like - buy well, and the screen will probably outlast the computer anyways...

So consumers aren't worthy of a display that doesn't cause excessive eye strain?

A display should last at least twice as long as the computer you buy with it. My kids' LCD has lasted 5 generations of Mac from quicksilver G4 to 2009 Intel mini.
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post #54 of 97
7/22/10 at 6:17pm
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Originally Posted by Shaine_Michael View Post

How's this for a powerhouse dream iMac...

30" LED screen(matte optional)
3.2GHz 6-core Intel Core i7
Nvidia GeForce GTX 285 dedicated GPU
512GB SSD system drive

How much are you trying to make this sell for? You're already talking at least $1k for the monitor, another 1k for the cpu, $300 for the GPU and $1300 for the SSD. That's a $3600 system before taking anything else into consideration. Actually filling up with 32GB of RAM would add another few K as well heh.



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Originally Posted by pyriX View Post

I think some of the people whining about the non availability of matte displays need to remember the iMac is a consumer machine, and the panels in them aren't professional grade panels anyways. So stop asking for pro features in a consumer box, buy a mac pro and pair it with whatever screen you like - buy well, and the screen will probably outlast the computer anyways...

Sorry, but you're wrong. Apple put a pro quality IPS display in the current iMac and has a quad core desktop i7 in it. At worst it is considered Pro-Sumer these days. If you don't need the expandability of the current Mac Pro, you can get a great monitor and a faster system for less by buying one of the top end iMacs.
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post #55 of 97
7/22/10 at 6:18pm
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Originally Posted by sheff View Post

New iMacs already?

They're due. The Core 2 Duo is becoming quite dated.
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post #56 of 97
7/22/10 at 7:00pm
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Also, what about the new iMac case being two pieces of black glass (front and back) with a band of aluminum sandwiched between like the iPhone 4?

In retrospect, it would have been better if the new iPhone had been aluminum unibody like the iMac or iPad than having a glass back, which has to be thicker than aluminum to be strong and which serves no purpose anyway.

The only justifiable reason for the iPhone having a glass back would have been if they had put the antenna inside the phone, because the signal could penetrate it more easily than metal. But, no, they had to put the antenna on the outside where any 10-year old who ever used a walkie-talkie could have told them the signal would be interfered with by touching it.

Although I waited expectantly for an iPhone 4, I have now decided to pass. It is the Vista of smartphones.
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post #57 of 97
7/22/10 at 7:21pm
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Originally Posted by alpha10711 View Post

Although I waited expectantly for an iPhone 4, I have now decided to pass. It is the Vista of smartphones.

Too bad the people I know who own the iPhone4 don't know that!
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post #58 of 97
7/22/10 at 7:42pm
Nice.

I like the iMacs, I like the iPad, I like the iPhone.

Dear Steve,

Please update my Mac Pro!
Thanks
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post #59 of 97
7/22/10 at 7:56pm
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Originally Posted by Shaine_Michael View Post

How's this for a powerhouse dream iMac...

30" LED screen(matte optional)
3.2GHz 6-core Intel Core i7
32GB RAM maximum
Nvidia GeForce GTX 285 dedicated GPU
512GB SSD system drive
2TB HDD
6 USB 3.0 ports
1 FW3200 port
Mini DisplayPort
eSata port
media card slot
gigabit ethernet port
optical audio i/o
BluRay Superdrive
Apple EXTENDED wireless keyboard with integrated MULTITOUCH TRACKPAD

What have you been smoking?
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post #60 of 97
7/22/10 at 8:01pm
What about our long dream that's slowly killed by apple, that of matte or better antiglare coatings....

What's it going to be apple, I can't handle glare one the iPad, how would I handle it on a 27" screen.

This is one of the disappointments of so many people that can't go away....
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post #61 of 97
7/22/10 at 8:09pm
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Originally Posted by sippincider View Post

Triple that. No iMac without BTO matte. 2-3 iMacs right now with matte.

Missed those post before I quadrupled above, why is apple so resistant to these, this is bar far the biggest let down of the whole ecosystem, innumerable iMacs are not sold because of this, us four alone could probably chalk about 50 from our purchase and those of friends and family.

And I am sorry to user wizard but that's some of the biggest garbage I ve heard recently.
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post #62 of 97
7/22/10 at 8:49pm
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Originally Posted by myapplelove View Post

What's it going to be apple, I can't handle glare one the iPad, how would I handle it on a 27" screen.

Well, maybe it's an issue for some, I have no idea how many, people, but I don't have any problem handling the glare on a 27" screen, because there almost never is any that I notice. Of course, I've never been bothered by iPad glare either, although, sometimes iPhone glare (in sunlight & fluorescent lighting) can be problematic for me, but I can just change the screen angle to eliminate it.
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post #63 of 97
7/22/10 at 9:18pm
Unless I am in very dark surroundings even iPad glare bothers me and no matter how you incline the screen the glare is still there, I am happy that it doesn't bother you and I of course believe and take your word for it, that said it's still a problem to many people, as evidenced by any kind of sampling in forums when the issue comes up. I have used many glass iMacs and MacBook pros and i ve never handled any of them well, I can occasionally forget the glare, but every 10 minutes or so I ll come across a glare that will annoy me.
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post #64 of 97
7/23/10 at 12:40am
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Originally Posted by wizard69 View Post

I doubt USB 3 will be in the machines. It all depends upon a chipset where it is "free". I'm not going to knock USB 3, but contrary to opinions expressed in this thread it isn't really all it is cracked up to be. Apple needs to implement, sometime of course; I just don't see it happening this month or next. Unless of course Apple puts in a bleeding edge Intel chipset.

Please take into account products like this and this from Blackmagic Design, or this one from Sharkoon (which I have). You can see such a speedy bus opens many interesting possibilities.

What I don't quite get is FW1600 or FW3200: it's good to see them arrive, but one guesses it is too late already (what with Apple disdaining FW in MacBooks, so signalling it was intending to kill it as a low-end Macs feature), I doubt many third parties would join that bandwagon.
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post #65 of 97
7/23/10 at 1:38am
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Originally Posted by Shaine_Michael View Post

How's this for a powerhouse dream iMac...

30" LED screen(matte optional)
3.2GHz 6-core Intel Core i7
32GB RAM maximum
Nvidia GeForce GTX 285 dedicated GPU
512GB SSD system drive
2TB HDD
6 USB 3.0 ports
1 FW3200 port
Mini DisplayPort
eSata port
media card slot
gigabit ethernet port
optical audio i/o
BluRay Superdrive
Apple EXTENDED wireless keyboard with integrated MULTITOUCH TRACKPAD

It is me or someone had a wet dream here?
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post #66 of 97
7/23/10 at 3:58am
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Potential configurations included a dual-core Core i5 model, as well as quad-core Core i5 and Core i7 configurations. Also of interest, according to those same people, were indications that new iMacs would be the first Macs to employ Intel's Core i3 processor at the low-end, which would have the new family of desktops utilize all three flavors of Intel's mobile Core line of processors.


Correction: The Core i5 iMac launched in October, 2009, uses a quad-core desktop Core i5 CPU, not the dual core mobile variant launched this Spring and used in the May, 2010 MacBook Pros.

Proud owner of a Core i5 iMac.


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post #67 of 97
7/23/10 at 4:21am
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Originally Posted by myapplelove View Post

Unless I am in very dark surroundings even iPad glare bothers me and no matter how you incline the screen the glare is still there, I am happy that it doesn't bother you and I of course believe and take your word for it, that said it's still a problem to many people, as evidenced by any kind of sampling in forums when the issue comes up. I have used many glass iMacs and MacBook pros and i ve never handled any of them well, I can occasionally forget the glare, but every 10 minutes or so I ll come across a glare that will annoy me.

Yeah, sorry, wasn't just bragging that glare doesn't bother me, had some point about the glare I was going to make, got distracted, didn't, and now have forgotten what it was.
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post #68 of 97
7/23/10 at 5:04am
Lol, no worries, it's all good.
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post #69 of 97
7/23/10 at 7:11am
HA HA good catch 30' (foot) reminds me of spinal tap when they made the stone henge 30" (inches) tall.

Good stuff! Oh yea this sucks i just bought a new 27" quad core! I wounder if I pulled the trigger too soon! urggggghhhhh
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post #70 of 97
7/23/10 at 7:15am
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Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post

Yes, a 30 foot iMac would be impressive.


HA HA good catch 30' (foot) reminds me of spinal tap when they made the stone henge 30" (inches) tall.

Good stuff! Oh yea this sucks i just bought a new 27" quad core! I wounder if I pulled the trigger too soon! urggggghhhhh
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post #71 of 97
7/23/10 at 7:16am
The ideal iMac for me would be:
- 24" screen with very high DPI for beautiful fonts
- Lots of USB ports
- CPU around 2.5GHz with at least 2 cores (don't care if C2D or iX)
- 500GB SSD
- 4GB RAM
- Nvidia 320M integrated graphics

The 320M and SSD are for quietness. This should only need 1 fan.

Don't care about gaming/3D performance because have PC for that, Mac is for apps.

I don't pretend to think it's realistic though, because of the price of SSDs! *sigh*
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post #72 of 97
7/23/10 at 11:10am
Good lord, can we please stop demanding that everything look like an iphone?

The form factor of an all glass machine is ridiculous in a desktop. Can you imagine an open space design department with rows of iMacs with mirrors on BOTH sides. You might as well ask designers to work in the middle of a carnival-style house of mirrors.
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post #73 of 97
7/23/10 at 11:25am
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Originally Posted by SSquirrel View Post

Sorry, but you're wrong. Apple put a pro quality IPS display in the current iMac and has a quad core desktop i7 in it. At worst it is considered Pro-Sumer these days. If you don't need the expandability of the current Mac Pro, you can get a great monitor and a faster system for less by buying one of the top end iMacs.

It may be an IPS display, but it has a relatively low 72% gamut thanks to the use of cheap LEDs for backlighting. Some would consider that too low to be considered anything but a mass market consumer product.
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post #74 of 97
7/23/10 at 12:59pm
So how long was it from the point where this guidance was given for the iMac mini until the device was actually shipped? i.e. when are the new iMacs coming?
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post #75 of 97
7/23/10 at 1:40pm
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Originally Posted by GMHut View Post

... You might as well ask designers to work in the middle of a carnival-style house of mirrors.

I'm pretty sure this is already happening: http://webpagesthatsuck.smugmug.com/...770_dDDkt-A-LB
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post #76 of 97
7/23/10 at 3:48pm
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Originally Posted by Programmer View Post

So how long was it from the point where this guidance was given for the iMac mini until the device was actually shipped? i.e. when are the new iMacs coming?

I have it on excellent authority that they'll be here as soon as they arrive!
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post #77 of 97
7/23/10 at 4:46pm
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Originally Posted by Bregalad View Post

Clearly "those same people" are badly misinformed because the 27" iMac uses desktop processors.

Why are they "badly misinformed"?
It is also currently available with the i5 and the i7 mobile processors.
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post #78 of 97
7/23/10 at 4:51pm
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Originally Posted by ouragan View Post

Correction: The Core i5 iMac launched in October, 2009, uses a quad-core desktop Core i5 CPU, not the dual core mobile variant launched this Spring and used in the May, 2010 MacBook Pros.
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Why does there need to be a correction? The article stated, "Potential configurations included a dual-core Core i5 model,".
It did not state that there is a dual core i5 available now.
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post #79 of 97
7/23/10 at 5:05pm
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Originally Posted by Chris_CA View Post

Why are they "badly misinformed"?
It is also currently available with the i5 and the i7 mobile processors.

No actually you're wrong. The mobile i5 and i7 chips have GPUs built in, the ones in the iMac do not. Also if you look at the processor speeds involved, they are desktop models. Plus, there are no mobile quad core i7s. The current iMac body has more room and aluminum for spreading heat out compared to when they were forced to use laptop parts when they had the iLamp body design.

EDIT:More info. i5 2.66GHz = i5 750 The mobile chips top out with the i5 540M at 2.533GHz and it wasn't released until January 2010. The iMac's BTO quad core i7 is a 2.8GHz i7 860 which was released in September 2009.
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post #80 of 97
7/23/10 at 5:25pm
I was planning on getting a imac i7 27" but I'm willing to wait a couple more months to see what's going to be released this fall.
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