Apple adds Motorola Droid X to iPhone 4 death grip page - Page 6

Originally Posted by Postulant

Thanks for the chuckle...

Originally Posted by stelligent

There are two sides to every story. Every smartphone has reception issues under the wrong circumstances. But the iPhone 4 does have a unique problem. I found a summary of articles that look at the issue from both sides:

http://www.ankleskater.com/pagemaker...20100725180015

Originally Posted by DaHarder

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Users should never have to be told how to hold their phone, as it should be engineered to function efficiently no matter how it's held (within reason).

Originally Posted by DaHarder

The solution already exists: Put The Antenna(s) Back Inside The Handset.

Note: ...and there's probably no way to legitimately patent common sense.

Originally Posted by Habañero

And if the mechanic lied to you and says "don't worry; all cars do that; let me show you videos of a Mercedes not running, and another of a Lexus not running..." would you exhibit such lemming-like incuriousness?

Originally Posted by sonicsands

A bit harsh when someone is just quoting another article. But hey, that same blog has a couple of articles that are pro-Apple:

http://www.ankleskater.com/pagemaker...20100718025521

http://www.ankleskater.com/pagemaker...20100724101442

Kinda defeats the notion about inherent bias.

Originally Posted by Smallwheels

My 2008 Mac Book battery has expanded within the computer and the Apple online tech guy said it was a normal occurrence for safety reasons. That was a lie. The battery only had 19 cycles on it since it is mostly used as a desktop computer. If Apple doesn't acknowledge this as a defective unit after only 19 months I'll stop dealing with Apple too. I didn't buy Applecare. I dual booted Linux on an HP computer in part because of this situation. I'm preparing to give up on Apple if they don't act responsibly and replace this defective battery.

Originally Posted by sonicsands

Putting on a case effectively puts the antenna inside!

Originally Posted by BartBuzz

I keep coming back to these articles to see if the postings are still lame. They are...especially all the "analogies" of crashing cars, cars not running, pickles not dill enough, shirt collars not stiff enough. But I digress. Maybe Monday's articles will bring some fresh discussion topics. The iPhone antenna story is done. Stick a fork in it.

Originally Posted by solipsism

Being an optimist, he's finally figured out how to use a search engine so perhaps he'll learn to utilize it before posting nonsense like this in the future.

Originally Posted by DaHarder

Just don't stick said fork near the area on the iPhone 4 that easily attenuates when covered...

Originally Posted by BartBuzz

It's still done. There's no more story here. Well I did hear that each iP4 now comes with a piece of silly putty to appease the people who aren't buying one anyway.

Originally Posted by BartBuzz

I keep coming back to these articles to see if the postings are still lame. They are...especially all the "analogies" of crashing cars, cars not running, pickles not dill enough, shirt collars not stiff enough. But I digress. Maybe Monday's articles will bring some fresh discussion topics. The iPhone antenna story is done. Stick a fork in it.

Originally Posted by solipsism

Being an optimist, he's finally figured out how to use a search engine so perhaps he'll learn to utilize it before posting nonsense like this in the future.

Originally Posted by sonicsands

A bit harsh when someone is just quoting another article. But hey, that same blog has a couple of articles that are pro-Apple:

http://www.ankleskater.com/pagemaker...20100718025521

http://www.ankleskater.com/pagemaker...20100724101442

Kinda defeats the notion about inherent bias.

Originally Posted by DaHarder

Now that's some serious trolling you're doing there...

You might at least try to stay on topic, rather than just causing disruptions by posting irrelevant, inflammatory, extraneous, and off -topic messages.

Originally Posted by Chopper

Hmmmm...

It's on the premier Apple fansite news page, yet you claim the story's done? That seems more like wishful thinking than any reflection of the reality of the situation.

Originally Posted by Chopper

I wonder how many of your 17,000+ posts would remain if all those with personal attacks, and posts to like-thinking AI members containing put-downs of people who disagree with you, were removed.

Originally Posted by RichL

All phones suffer from death grip.

Only the iPhone 4 suffers from the finger of death (and it's not that common):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gb3aQ5XoQw

Why is everyone (including Apple) obsessed with death grip when it isn't the real issue here?

Originally Posted by anonymouse

16,875. You can count them if you don't believe me.

Originally Posted by bulk001

I just got the first 5 of our iphones in and while I can get them all to drop a bar or two, I can't get any of them to drop a call because of it. I suspect that Apple has made some tweaks since this all broke.

Originally Posted by anonymouse

Well, AI is no less a hit whore than any other blog.

Originally Posted by bulk001

I just got the first 5 of our iphones in and while I can get them all to drop a bar or two, I can't get any of them to drop a call because of it. I suspect that Apple has made some tweaks since this all broke.

Originally Posted by Chopper

So you're solipsism as well as anonymouse?

Originally Posted by solipsism

Cool! I'm apparently anonymouse and he is me. Is this like a Father, Son & Holy Ghost sort of oneness or a Voltron like union? I vote for latter.

Originally Posted by Chopper

And the topic's a hit magnet because apparently it's "not done yet".

I note you've popped by for a visit to my profile. Was it enlightening?

Originally Posted by anonymouse

You are as right about that as you are about everything else.

Originally Posted by anonymouse

It's a hit magnet because trolls like you want to keep spinning your BS.

An accidental click, was intent on gathering stats on your posts.

Originally Posted by solipsism

Cool! I'm apparently anonymouse and he is me. Is this like a Father, Son & Holy Ghost sort of oneness or a Voltron like union? I vote for latter.

Originally Posted by Chopper

Ah, the old 'insults because you have no valid argument' technique again Mr anonymouse. If you have some actual counter to my point, feel free to post it.

Originally Posted by Chopper

Or The Walrus perhaps...

But no, the comment was about anonymouse answering for you. I have a feeling you already knew that, though it may be you hadn't seen that possibility. However, you probably do now.

It's interesting how many times posters address something explicitly to another, yet that person doesn't answer it and instead some other poster answers for them.

Sort of a 'tag-team smackdown' approach to forum responses.

Originally Posted by anonymouse

Voltron? He's the 4th musketeer, right?

Originally Posted by Chopper

So you're solipsism as well as anonymouse? If I ever get the 85 spare days or so I'd need to count them, I promise faithfully to do just that. Meantime I'll take your obviously well-documented count with the trust that I know you'd extend to me.

Originally Posted by anonymouse

Ha, ha, ha. Very funny coming from you. What? You don't like having it pointed out how ridiculous you are? There's a solution to that, and it's already been suggested to you.

Originally Posted by Chopper

Thanks.

So, anything interesting in my profile?

Originally Posted by solipsism

FYI: This is an open, public forum. All comments and queries, even when quoting another user in the reply are for all to read and comment. If one wants private discourse they should create a PM or use IM or email, if they are offered up that information, and expect others to do the same.

Originally Posted by hill60

An ignore button.

Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody

Your the one that's confused.

The issue isn't the "finger of death." The issue is blocking the signal by means of the users hand, and related to that, the dropping of calls.

Apple's antenna is on the outside, therefore it's more sensitive to the issue. No one at Apple has ever denied that, they have even touted the extra sensitivity as a good thing. All phones have the issue, most of the time they don't drop calls however.

If you hold the iPhone in a natural way, it won't suffer from this and won't drop calls. If you insist on holding your finger over the antenna, it will drop bars, but for the most part still won't drop the call. If you are in a marginal signal area while participating in such hijinks, you might drop the call.

I hold my iPhone in my left hand exclusively while making a call but I never get my fingers near that spot unless I contort myself on purpose. It's a non-issue because it's almost impossible to reproduce for the vast majority of users.

I feel sorry for you if you hold your phone that way and also live in a low signal area, but that doesn't make it an issue for the rest of us. Try holding the phone with your fingers like most folks do instead of slapping it to the side of your head with your entire hand cupped around it (the only way you'd see any problem at all).

It's not healthy to have the antenna touching your face anyway. A more normal grip would eliminate your problem with the signal as well as make it less likely you will get jaw cancer or something.