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Apple is poised to release updates to its iMac and Mac Pro desktops, as well as a brand new 27-inch Cinema Display on Tuesday, according to a new rumor.

John Gruber of Daring Fireball hinted on Monday that Apple will release the new products this week in promoting his live podcast.

"We'll have much to talk about, what with the new Mac Pros (finally, right?), speed-bump iMacs, and the gorgeous new 16:9 27-inch Cinema Display that Apple might hypothetically release tomorrow," he wrote.

Update: Gruber later updated his post to also make mention of Apple's Magic Trackpad, a product that is believed to have recently received FCC approval, though no photographs of the tested Bluetooth device are available. The report said that the potential release of the trackpad is "doubly hypothetical."

AppleInsider was first to report on the new 27-inch LED Cinema Display in March. At the time, it was believed that the new display, along with a major update to Apple's Mac Pro workstations, would arrive in June. Though the products didn't meet that timeframe, Gruber's report would suggest that they will arrive before the end of July.

People familiar with the display said the product has been lingering in Apple's labs for some time, referenced with the unique identifier "K59." It is believed that the company was waiting for the price of larger LCD panels, with a display resolution of 2,560-by-1,400 pixels, to lower in price before the product would become available.

Apple's dodeca-core Mac Pro has also been in the works for some time. Last week, retail inventory became unavailable at some stores, indicating that supply channels could be drying up before a planned hardware update.

In addition, over the weekend AppleInsider revealed that iMac inventory was also limited ahead of an anticipated refresh. That came after Apple warned its direct and indirect sales channels of near-term shortages of hardware.
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Touchscreen iMac, please.
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AWESOME. New mac pro in my budget now with a shiny new display! a new 30" would have been nice, but 27" is close enough.
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I won't believe it until I see an unboxing video from Vietnam!
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i want an iMac that has smaller sized screen, (maybe 20 - 21 inches) that can run an i7 quad core... those 27" screens are MONSTERS.
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Currently there are 24" and 30" displays,
is this going to change to:
24 & 27 or
27 & 30 or
24, 27 & 30?
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i want an iMac that has smaller sized screen, (maybe 20 - 21 inches) that can run an i7 quad core... those 27" screens are MONSTERS.

No matter how many configurations Apple offers, there will always be someone that wants something not offered.
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I won't believe it until I see an unboxing video from Vietnam!

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Touchscreen iMac, please.

Believe me, there will be NO touchscreen iMac until AT THE LEAST 10.7, and probably not until 10.8. Also, there would absolutely be a press event for something that big. New software customized for it would have to be introduced and demoed, etc.
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i want an iMac that has smaller sized screen, (maybe 20 - 21 inches) that can run an i7 quad core... those 27" screens are MONSTERS.

Multi-touch keyboard and mouse!

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Touchscreen iMac, please.

I'd rather an "ipad" talk to the computer than actually touching the screen itself. A touch screen imac would just be...

1) dirty (too many fingerprints and grease; ewww; our workstation are dirt enough and skeeve me out when I think about the germs, really bad in multiuser environments in terms of hygiene) and

2) not ergonomic at all. Unless they have a really cool stylus in the works my "pad/ tablet" suggestion would really only work for navigation and manipulation, but not useful to artists without pressure sensitivity. Hmmm
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why 27? what stops apple to release an update version of their existing 30 cinema display? putting a 27 display aside with 30 ACD, it just does not make sense.
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Touchscreen iMac, please.

Will never happen. At least not for public release. Touchpad? Personally I think yes. Touch keyboard? I imagine so but perhaps not yet.
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Will never happen. At least not for public release. Touchpad? Personally I think yes. Touch keyboard? I imagine so but perhaps not yet.

Touch keyboard MacBook Air?
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why 27? what stops apple to release an update version of their existing 30 cinema display? putting a 27 display aside with 30 ACD, it just does not make sense.

Yeah so what will the new 30" be? 34" jesus my desk is getting smaller already.
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i want an iMac that has smaller sized screen, (maybe 20 - 21 inches) that can run an i7 quad core... those 27" screens are MONSTERS.

Yes they are, but so very very awesome.
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Yeah so what will the new 30" be? 34" jesus my desk is getting smaller already.

Simulated 40" display in new Apple Retina iGlasses! Augmented reality system integrated into OSX, baby!

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Gruber updated his post to hint that a Magic Touchpad might be coming, too.
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why 27? what stops apple to release an update version of their existing 30 cinema display? putting a 27 display aside with 30 ACD, it just does not make sense.

At least a part of the reason is the change in ratio.

Apple used to be the champion of the 16:10 ratio which is demonstrably the best, most "natural" proportion for a screen to have. However the movie industry has settled on the lesser 16:9 ratio and since computers are media devices we all have to pretend like 16:9 is actually better.

I'd love to see Apple making their own screens and perhaps going back to 16:10 but it's likely to never happen.
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i want an iMac that has smaller sized screen, (maybe 20 - 21 inches) that can run an i7 quad core... those 27" screens are MONSTERS.

Part of the reason methink you won't find an i7 in anything smaller that the current 27" model is due to the increased thermal output of the CPU. Apple had to do some serious internal cooling tricks to use the thinner iMac case and anything smaller would end up turning that aluminum structure into a George Foreman Grill.
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If all this stuff releases in one day it will be quite a significant day at the Apple store.
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At least a part of the reason is the change in ratio.

Apple used to be the champion of the 16:10 ratio which is demonstrably the best, most "natural" proportion for a screen to have. However the movie industry has settled on the lesser 16:9 ratio and since computers are media devices we all have to pretend like 16:9 is actually better.

I'd love to see Apple making their own screens and perhaps going back to 16:10 but it's likely to never happen.

16:9 actually works fine on a 27" screen, it's so large already, but I don't think it's ideal on smaller screens.
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why 27? what stops apple to release an update version of their existing 30 cinema display? putting a 27 display aside with 30 ACD, it just does not make sense.

Isn’t the 30” ACD dramatically different tech that we can probably expect from the 27” LED Apple Display? Do they make ≥ 30” LED backlights that are viable for mass production and adequate Apple’s needs as a computer display? Are there any other issues between these two display types that would make it harder to produce a ≥ 30” LED Apple Display? Who else is selling a prosumer or better display of that size?


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I'd love to see Apple making their own screens and perhaps going back to 16:10 but it's likely to never happen.

I don’t mind 16:9 for a desktop. The displays are large enough now to have plenty of height. What I don’t care for is smaller notebooks (anything less than 15”) with 16:9 or any “widescreen” ratio for a reader device, like the iPad. I think Apple was very smart here even some say that 4:3 is “obsolete”. Those “widescreen” tablets and netbooks are simply murder for anything but watching video.
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Currently there are 24" and 30" displays,
is this going to change to:
24 & 27 or
27 & 30 or
24, 27 & 30?

The 24 will replaced by the 27.
The 30 will be replaced by something bigger (33-37).

I think the display and Mac Pro updates will be significant, but the iMac update will be minimal.
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If all this stuff releases in one day it will be quite a significant day at the Apple store.

Yes it would and it might explain why my brother in law was working till 1 am last night at the Apple store following the return of some of his crew of Cupertino.
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post #26 of 104
I hope the new displays aren't glossy or at least have a matte option. Glossy screens are impossible to use in my work space.
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Will the powermacs have a new case? This current one has been around for several years now...
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...and the gorgeous new 16:9 27-inch Cinema Display that Apple might hypothetically release tomorrow," he wrote.

How does one "hypothetically release" something?"

And I won't ever be buying an iMac or new Apple Display until they make a non-glossy screen an option. It's no good for graphics work.
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Touchscreen iMac, please.

yeah, like anyone wants to poke at their screen all day. Glad you're not an Apple hardware designer!
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I dont mind 16:9 for a desktop. The displays are large enough now to have plenty of height. What I dont care for is smaller notebooks (anything less than 15) with 16:9 or any widescreen ratio for a reader device, like the iPad. I think Apple was very smart here even some say that 4:3 is obsolete. Those widescreen tablets and netbooks are simply murder for anything but watching video.

I'm in an open plan office. Some of my co-workers craving more privacy have gathered up old displays to create "walls". A few of them have gotten around the lack of usable height by rotating one or more of the displays to portrait orientation.

I've placed a 20" 16:10 ratio display above my MBP. I find that much more efficient than having two wide screens side by side.
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With all this new hype and high expectations, if they don't release at least something tomorrow, it's going to be an ugly day around the forums.
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Will new displays use only white LED's or red+green+blue?
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Will new displays use only white LED's or red+green+blue?

RGB, like they always have.
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Will new displays use only white LED's or red+green+blue?

Red, green, blue AND YELLOW hopefully
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Well, I guess many will welcome the new desktops tomorrow?

I'm expecting price rises judging by the Mac Mini's under whelming update and steep price rise.

It's pretty predictable.

Mac 'pro'. six core. 2k. The over due 27inch LED will emerge due to the 27 inch iMac bringing panel prices down? Apple will pocket the savings and charge loads for it. About a grand? Add that to the entry 'pro' and you won't get change from 3k. Then you'll pay for the latest Nvidia card around £300 at least. Maybe a case redesign. It's due. No 30 incher LED. What's the point with the 27 inch?

£3300.

iMac will include more quad cores as standard (as they should have been last time.) I'd expect better gpus. Ati, I'm guessing. That's about it.

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... I'm expecting price rises judging by the Mac Mini's under whelming update and steep price rise. ...

The Mac Mini did not have a steep price rise. The current Mini is comparable to the old higher end Mini, and $100 cheaper. So, if anything, it had a price cut. They eliminated the cheaper base model, but that's not the same as a price increase.
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Well, I guess many will welcome the new desktops tomorrow?

I'm expecting price rises judging by the Mac Mini's under whelming update and steep price rise.

It's pretty predictable.

Mac 'pro'. six core. 2k. The over due 27inch LED will emerge due to the 27 inch iMac bringing panel prices down? Apple will pocket the savings and charge loads for it. About a grand? Add that to the entry 'pro' and you won't get change from 3k. Then you'll pay for the latest Nvidia card around £300 at least. Maybe a case redesign. It's due. No 30 incher LED. What's the point with the 27 inch?

£3300.

iMac will include more quad cores as standard (as they should have been last time.) I'd expect better gpus. Ati, I'm guessing. That's about it.

Lemon Bon Bon.

To be fair, over in the US, and the 27" iMac starts at $1700 and the dell 27" lcd based on the same panel is just over $1k... so if Apple's price were in line w' the dell panel that it would make sense.

I'm betting $1300-$1400 for the LCD, though maybe itll be a little less. They *have* to price it less than the iMac.

No idea how screwed you guys will get on UK prices :-(
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To be fair, over in the US, and the 27" iMac starts at $1700 and the dell 27" lcd based on the same panel is just over $1k... so if Apple's price were in line w' the dell panel that it would make sense.

I'm betting $1300-$1400 for the LCD, though maybe itll be a little less. They *have* to price it less than the iMac.

No idea how screwed you guys will get on UK prices :-(

I didn't know what Anal sex was until Apple hit UK buyers with the last few years worth of price rises...in recession too!

Blood cheek.

And they don't use lubricant.

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The Mac Mini did not have a steep price rise. The current Mini is comparable to the old higher end Mini, and $100 cheaper. So, if anything, it had a price cut. They eliminated the cheaper base model, but that's not the same as a price increase.

The Mac Mini has gone from being a £395 computer (overpriced at that for something that does not include, k/b, mouse or monitor!) to one costing £645.

I call that a steep price rise.

So much for the transition to Intel. More expensive computers with integrated craphics.

It's had a price cut? (How is eliminating entry models not a price rise. Heh, heh, heh...)

Only on the warped 'bubble' logic of the 'insider boards.

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As long as it's not called the magic trackpad I'm ok with it. Seriousely a little bit much of an overlap with Disney there. Call it the Mac Trackpad, the iTrackpad, the Apple Trackpad please.
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