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Apple on Tuesday issued an update to a number of recent notebooks -- including the MacBook, MacBook Pro, and MacBook Air -- bringing inertial scrolling and three-finger drag gesture support to some trackpads.

Magic Trackpad and Multi-Touch Trackpad Update 1.0 was released Tuesday afternoon by Apple. It is a 75.09MB update that requires Mac OS X 10.6.4. In addition to adding inertial scrolling and three-finger drag in recent MacBook and MacBook Pro notebooks, it also adds support for Apple's newly released $69 Magic Trackpad.

According to Apple, the following MacBook and MacBook Pro models now have both inertial scrolling and three-finger drag gesture:

MacBook (13-inch, Early 2009)
MacBook (13-inch, Mid 2009)
MacBook (13-inch, Late 2009)
MacBook (13-inch, Aluminum, Late 2008)

MacBook Pro (17-inch, Mid 2010)
MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2010)
MacBook Pro (17-inch, Mid 2009)
MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2.53 GHz, Mid 2009)
MacBook Pro (15-inch, Mid 2009)
MacBook Pro (13-inch, Mid 2009)
MacBook Pro (17-inch, Early 2009)
MacBook Pro (17-inch, Late 2008)

Inertial scrolling, but not the three-finger gesture, is offered in four additional models:

MacBook Air
MacBook Air (Mid 2009)
MacBook Pro (15-inch, Early 2008)
MacBook Pro (17-inch, Early 2008)

The new three-finger gesture was first discovered earlier Tuesday with hands-on tests of the Magic Trackpad. The capability allows users to quickly drag windows around. At the time, the feature was exclusive to the new hardware.

Also Tuesday, Apple released updates for Windows that add support for the Magic Trackpad hardware. A 6.62MB update is available for 32-bit flavors of Windows, while the 64-bit software is 3.98MB. It works with Windows XP, Windows Vista and Windows 7 machines, as well as Macs running the operating system via Boot Camp.
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What is inertial scrolling again?
post #3 of 46
Am I reading that right, the 2010 releases of the 13" MB and MBP don't get this update, but older models of the same size and class do?
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What is inertial scrolling again?

Scrolling like on the iPhone, where you flick to scroll and it continues to scroll until you slow it down or stop it (or let it eventually slow down and stop on its own).

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edit: Pipped by John B... again.
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post #6 of 46
I like this, the scrolling is great, and nothing to buy. +1 to Apple, will save for the next time something goes wrong, they have 1 in the bank. (I almost upgraded my laptop for this feature, saves me 2K!)
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

Am I reading that right, the 2010 releases of the 13" MB and MBP don't get this update, but older models of the same size and class do?

I noticed the same thing but when I went to check for updates for my mid 2010 13" MBP the update was there. As far as I know I already had inertial scrolling but not the 3 finger drag. As an example 3 fingers was used for forward page and back page in a browser (swipe to navigate). I have just updated and noticed that I now have the option to choose either "dragging" or "swipe to navigate" for 3 fingers. I wish there was a way to change back and forth on the fly as I prefer to use swipe to navigate when using a browser but would also like the option of using 3 fingers to drag windows using other programs. Oh well...
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I want a video of track pad's capabilities like the one they made for the mouse.
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post #9 of 46
Cool. I'll have to download that update. I'm still a mouse guy. I can make finer, more precise movements with mice than I can with trackpads.
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post #10 of 46
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Originally Posted by John.B View Post

Scrolling like on the iPhone, where you flick to scroll and it continues to scroll until you slow it down or stop it (or let it eventually slow down and stop on its own).

ohhhh i see now. I might get one now.
post #11 of 46
Three fingers on the magic mouse maybe?
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Update for OSX 10.6.4 = 75MB
update for Windows XP, VIsta, 7 = 7MB

Why are Apple's updates for OSX so huge?
I can't imagine the actual code to make this work is so large. What else is in there? Do they have every possible dependency in there too?
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Originally Posted by Nooge View Post

Update for OSX 10.6.4 = 75MB
update for Windows XP, VIsta, 7 = 7MB

Why are Apple's updates for OSX so huge?
I can't imagine the actual code to make this work is so large. What else is in there? Do they have every possible dependency in there too?

If I had to guess, I would say that it's because the Apple update includes both support for the trackpad as well as inertial scrolling for laptop trackpads, while the Windows update would only have support for the new trackpad but lack inertial scrolling.
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Damn, that three-finger dragging is a lot more compelling than I would have guessed. I just wish it didn't clobber the old three-finger back/forward action; I rely on that quite a lot, too.

I wish I could map 4-finger left/right to the back/forward action.
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Looks like Apple forgot to include the 13" mid-2010 Macbook Pro on the list of models available for the update.

Just updated my mid-2010 13" MBP.
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Originally Posted by Nooge View Post

Update for OSX 10.6.4 = 75MB
update for Windows XP, VIsta, 7 = 7MB

Why are Apple's updates for OSX so huge?
I can't imagine the actual code to make this work is so large. What else is in there? Do they have every possible dependency in there too?

The mac version comes bundled with videos that show how to use it.
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Originally Posted by astrosmash View Post

Damn, that three-finger dragging is a lot more compelling than I would have guessed. I just wish it didn't clobber the old three-finder back/forward action; I rely on that quite a lot, too.

I will I could map 4-finger left/right to the back/forward action.

Another option for dragging windows is to select check boxes under one finger for drag and drag lock, then you can double tap window at the top of the window with one finger and drag around then single tap to release lock. Also can be used to resize window by double tapping bottom right hand corner of window then dragging to resize and single tap to release. This is a standard feature for mid 2010 MBP before the update. Then you can leave the 3 fingers set to "swipe to navigate" which is what I prefer for web browsing.

I love the trackpad on my mid 2010 MBP and am glad to see that I can now buy a Magic trackpad for my iMac but will have to upgrade OS from Tiger to Snow Leopard which I'm not sure why I haven't done so already.
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Originally Posted by RKRick View Post

Another option for dragging windows is to select check boxes under one finger for drag and drag lock, then you can double tap window at the top of the window with one finger and drag around then single tap to release lock.

I never liked single-finger tap gestures; they're too easy to trigger by accident. That's one of the nice things about multi-touch.
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I never liked single-finger tap gestures; they're too easy to trigger by accident. That's one of the nice things about multi-touch.

Agreed but I like the "swipe to navigate" function for 3 finger gestures so much for web browsing that I'm finding it hard to decide. I have gotten used to the single tap gestures over time and rarely trigger by accident anymore, but when I do...

What I hate the most though anymore is having to use the trackpads on my work laptop or my daughters laptop which both have Windows, really messes with my head switching back and forth.
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Originally Posted by Nooge View Post

Update for OSX 10.6.4 = 75MB
update for Windows XP, VIsta, 7 = 7MB

Why are Apple's updates for OSX so huge?
I can't imagine the actual code to make this work is so large. What else is in there? Do they have every possible dependency in there too?

I would guess that the update for Windows is in addition to the OSX update so technically it is 82MB if you are running Windows on your Mac.
post #21 of 46
Also not on the list is the late 15in model. I like the inertia scrolling but I don't particullarly like the three finger dragging. To enable that it takes away the navigation using three fingers which is something i've become accustomed to when broswing the web
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Does this do anything to the Boot Camp drivers for the built-in trackpad, or is it just for the Magic Trackpad? Because the driver for the built-in trackpad for Windows is crap.
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Installed it. Works great on my mid 2009 17-inch MBP.
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The late 2008 15" MacBook Pro is not included in the list, but inertial scrolling + 3 finger drag work. I was initially annoyed because it seemed that every machine after it was on the list, along with a few released before hand! But I tried S/W update and it came through.

The late 2008 17" MacBook Pro is on the list, which is surprising to say the least because there wasn't one. This machine wasn't update until the Phil-note at MacWorld 2009 (Steve was sick).

Basically if you have a MacBook [Pro] then try S/W update.

Really enjoying this inertial stuff. I like the way you can flick to get the page scrolling and then tap to stop it.
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Originally Posted by John.B View Post

Scrolling like on the iPhone, where you flick to scroll and it continues to scroll until you slow it down or stop it (or let it eventually slow down and stop on its own).

Maybe I'm missing something, but does anyone know how this would be different from the "scroll with momentum" feature, already supported by the current generation multi-touch trackpads as well as Magic Mouse?

(Please note that I'm not complaining or anything; I really really like "with momentum" scrolling and can't live without it, so if this update is just bringing the same (or similar) feature to older generation trackpads, then I'm all for it.)
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Originally Posted by johnnyb0731 View Post

Also not on the list is the late 15in model. I like the inertia scrolling but I don't particullarly like the three finger dragging. To enable that it takes away the navigation using three fingers which is something i've become accustomed to when broswing the web

The late 15" is on the list (sixth one down).
post #27 of 46
it's very strange, i have a

  • MacBook Pro (15-inch, Early 2008)

and have the three-finger drag available under system preferences...

i'm still not going to use it (prefer to go back / forward in safari)...but still...it seems strange...
post #28 of 46
I am so happy to have inertial scrolling it's unbelievable
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post #29 of 46
A great update! I am wondering whether its release now has anything to do with the mystery application in the new iLife suite. Any guesses?
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post #30 of 46
I am confused
I have always had 3 finger swipe to change the internet page back or forward
I can 2 finger scroll up or down but i can't 2 finger mighty mouse style of scrolling where the page runs on and on like a wheel .

I can also expand a page with 2 finger and spread them apart and the page gets larger .

So i think i have always had this
or have i once gain missed the point

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ps I did not notice the 2 finger expand move until 2 weeks ago
weird huh.
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I am confused
I have always had 3 finger swipe to change the internet page back or forward
I can 2 finger scroll up or down but i can't 2 finger mighty mouse style of scrolling where the page runs on and on like a wheel .

I can also expand a page with 2 finger and spread them apart and the page gets larger .

So i think i have always had this
or have i once gain missed the point

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ps I did not notice the 2 finger expand move until 2 weeks ago
weird huh.

Bruce --- if the update has installed you should be able to have the page scroll as though it is run on an inertial wheel. Have you waited for the page to load properly first? It doesn't work until the page is fully there.
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I registered just 'cause I was shocked that no one had mentioned this can't-live-without-it bit of shareware. Remap the gestures up the ying & yang, PLUS make them specific to certain apps per your needs.

I'm not associated with them, but for anyone interested, here's the site to get it: http://blog.boastr.net/

Anyway, DO NOT UPGRADE TO THIS VERSION of Apple's software without reading the developer's blog (above). This version breaks some of the gestures you may be using.

Thank God I checked first.
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Yeah MacBook Aluminium included yeaaaaaa
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System Preferences -> Trackpad -> Scroll without Inertia -> Me happy again.
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A great update! I am wondering whether its release now has anything to do with the mystery application in the new iLife suite. Any guesses?

In fact your question kinda surprised me. Just what do you think the mystery app might be to ask?

I do have my own question for the group though; does this update show up in software updates or does it have to be applied manually? On my early 2008 MBP it did not show up as a an update.



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post #37 of 46
Thanks Apple for giving us inertia scrolling. But now can we tweak it to reverse the motion? For example swiping up will scroll down. This is the behavior of the iphone and after using it feels much more natural.
post #38 of 46
after using this update I have noticed broken behavior with Aperture. The slider controls aren't working.

update--- i had dragging turned off. Once turned on it worked.
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Also Tuesday, Apple released updates for Windows that add support for the Magic Trackpad hardware. A 6.62MB update is available for 32-bit flavors of Windows, while the 64-bit software is 3.98MB. It works with Windows XP, Windows Vista and Windows 7 machines, as well as Macs running the operating system via Boot Camp.

Does anyone know for sure this will work on a PC? I'm on Windows 7 and have not seen any driver update. And Apple's Trackpad website still reads:

"Minimum Requirements:
A Mac computer with Bluetooth wireless technology
Mac OS X v10.6.4 or later
Latest Magic Trackpad software update"
post #40 of 46
Apple should have done this YEARS ago, like 2007 with the iPhone release -- amazing how this little change makes the MacBook Pro so much more likable/fun even!
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