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Apple on Tuesday evening released to its iPhone developer community the second private beta of iOS 4.1, a much anticipated update to the company's mobile operating system aimed at remedying a number of outstanding issues with the new iPhone 4.

The software, labeled iOS 4.1 beta 2 build 8B509b, was made available in five distinct distributions, one each for the iPhone 4, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 3G, iPod touch 3rd generation and iPod touch 2nd generation.

Most critically, the release is expected to include a fix for proximity sensor malfunctions on the iPhone 4. From the onset, users have found that the touchscreen on their iPhone 4 will sometimes activate while on a call, resulting in accidentally pressed buttons that can place a call on hold or even end it and dial a different number almost instantaneously.

During a press conference two weeks ago, Apple chief executive Steve Jobs said the company is aware of problems with the proximity sensor on the iPhone 4 and added that his team was working on a software fix that is expected to be included in the next iOS update -- presumably iOS 4.1.

The first beta of iOS 4.1, released to developers a couple of weeks ago, included a new version of the iPhone's modem firmware (02.07.01), the ability to add FaceTime numbers as phone favorites, a remodeled version of GameCenter, and cosmetic changes to the camera app that reposition the flash and camera swap buttons when handset it shifted to landscape mode.

Released in June, iOS 4.0 is already said to be powering half of all the iPhones currently in use by consumers worldwide.
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About time.. the proximity issue is driving me nuts! Hopefully we will have this by friday for the non-devs!
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Between the Prox Sensor, the antenna problems and some occasional overheating, I really felt like an iPhone beta tester for Apple, that's why I returned my phone a couple of weeks ago.
I hope they get this right so I can re-buy the thing, or I'll wait for the 4g(?).
Also hoping they improve the performance of iOS4 on the 3g with this latest build, since this is what's holding me over until they work the bugs out of iPhone 4.
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Does it improve performance on the 3G? Mine is almost unusable it's so slow. I frequently have safari hang on me for 20-30 seconds, apps frequently quit repeatedly when starting up (lack of memory I guess) and everything is just universally slow.
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Between the Prox Sensor, the antenna problems and some occasional overheating, I really felt like an iPhone beta tester for Apple, that's why I returned my phone a couple of weeks ago.
I hope they get this right so I can re-buy the thing, or I'll wait for the 4g(?).
Also hoping they improve the performance of iOS4 on the 3g with this latest build, since this is what's holding me over until they work the bugs out of iPhone 4.
jb

i've read that 4.1 makes iphone 3g usable again. people also say if you restore your 3g and create a new profile then it wont be crippled to begin with. right now i have a 3g, and i'm eagerly awaiting iOS 4.1. i'm too lazy to fix it now on 4.0.1 by restore and setup as a new phone.
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About time.. the proximity issue is driving me nuts! Hopefully we will have this by friday for the non-devs!

Are you crazy? A two-day beta feedback period?!?

Ain't gonna happen.
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Most critically, the release is expected to include a fix for proximity sensor malfunctions on the iPhone 4. From the onset, users have found that the touchscreen on their iPhone 4 will sometimes activate while on a call, resulting in accidentally pressed buttons that can place a call on hold or even end it and dial a different number almost instantaneously.

Man, I was thinking that all those hang ups were dropped calls this whole time! Ok, I am very much anticipating not calling every person I talk to back 4 times per conversation too.
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I've had a couple of friends have to do a RESTORE two or three times with their 3G phones to get them to work acceptably fast.

I have no idea why the first or second restore didn't work, but they are happy they tried a couple more.

The same thing happened with my iPod touch 2G. The second restore helped a lot.

And yes, I've read in many places where setting up the phone as a new phone helps immensely. A lot of work, but it seems to often work well.
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Between the Prox Sensor, the antenna problems and some occasional overheating, I really felt like an iPhone beta tester for Apple, that's why I returned my phone a couple of weeks ago.

And don't forget the Bluetooth issues. Until I know the iPhone4 will also work properly with the Motorola hands free kit in my car I won't be buying one.
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Please please please fix the iPhone 3G performance.

Doing a restore sounds interesting - I might have to try that. However, I have found the 3G's performance with iOS4 degrades over time so what might at first seem a solution, after a little while, turns out to be a huge disappointment.
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iOS 3.1 was released during the Apple music event last year, September 9, 2009. I expect iOS 4.1 will be released during that same event in September of this year.
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After a quick Google search - creating a new profile may fix the issues on the 3G, but I would also lose all the sms text messages currently stored on my phone.
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After a quick Google search - creating a new profile may fix the issues on the 3G, but I would also lose all the sms text messages currently stored on my phone.

If your phone is and will be jailbroken, you can manually backup your text messages.
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I am very surprised that I am not seeing more people having issues with bluetooth connections. My Jawbone is now rendered useless by my new iPhone 4. It always worked fine with my original iPhone and my 3G. My new phone keeps dropping the connection to the bluetooth. When I get in my car my phone stays connected to the ear piece and also connects to my car.

In one car the connection works, in the other it is so garbled it is unusable. I spoke to Apple and they acted as if they had never heard this was an issue.

I have reset my phone and found no difference.

I love my new phone and I feel pretty certain that software updates will fix my problem but I do not like being a beta tester for what should be a finished product. It surprises me that this went undiscovered.

I hope that Apple is able to address this issue with 4.1
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i've read that 4.1 makes iphone 3g usable again. people also say if you restore your 3g and create a new profile then it wont be crippled to begin with. right now i have a 3g, and i'm eagerly awaiting iOS 4.1. i'm too lazy to fix it now on 4.0.1 by restore and setup as a new phone.

That would be great. I'm with you on trying to get time to do a restore. After the 4 hours it took to go to 4.0 I am in no hurry to restart that process anytime soon. Although I may have already lost that much time waiting for pages in Safari to load...
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I am very surprised that I am not seeing more people having issues with bluetooth connections. My Jawbone is now rendered useless by my new iPhone 4. It always worked fine with my original iPhone and my 3G. My new phone keeps dropping the connection to the bluetooth. When I get in my car my phone stays connected to the ear piece and also connects to my car.

In one car the connection works, in the other it is so garbled it is unusable. I spoke to Apple and they acted as if they had never heard this was an issue.

I have reset my phone and found no difference.

I love my new phone and I feel pretty certain that software updates will fix my problem but I do not like being a beta tester for what should be a finished product. It surprises me that this went undiscovered.

I hope that Apple is able to address this issue with 4.1

Which Jawbone do you have? My Prime works perfectly.
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I do find myself wondering if maybe the 3G just plain doesn't have the processing clout to really be able to run iOS4. Because I've read a bunch of reports saying iOS4 really slows down the 3G, I've held off from upgrading my wifes, but I'm wondering if Apple will maintain earlier versions of the OS from a security point of view.

On the Mac side of things, if you've not upgraded to Snow Leopard, Apple still provide security fixes for Leopard and I think Tiger as well, at least periodically. Do you think they might do the same for iOS 3, so that if we decide it's not worth upgrading to iOS4, we won't face any security risks?
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Hopefully 4.1 FINALLY adds the ability to manually select audio output for phone use via the dock connector!!! \
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If your phone is and will be jailbroken, you can manually backup your text messages.

My phone is not jail broken and I do not intend to jailbreak it.

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I do find myself wondering if maybe the 3G just plain doesn't have the processing clout to really be able to run iOS4. Because I've read a bunch of reports saying iOS4 really slows down the 3G, I've held off from upgrading my wifes, but I'm wondering if Apple will maintain earlier versions of the OS from a security point of view.

Then Apple should have restricted iOS4 to the 3GS and iPhone4. If they are going to make iOS4 available on the 3G they should have made certain it works well.

My advice is do not upgrade. I wish I hadn't. iOS4 on the 3G gets very frustrating very quickly and doesn't really add much as all the best features are 3GS and better only (although I do like the unified inbox).
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My advice is do not upgrade. I wish I hadn't. iOS4 on the 3G gets very frustrating very quickly and doesn't really add much as all the best features are 3GS and better only (although I do like the unified inbox).

have you tried the "turn off spotlight search" trick to speed up your 3G on iOS 4?

Settings>General>Spotlight Search - uncheck all
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Does it improve performance on the 3G? Mine is almost unusable it's so slow. I frequently have safari hang on me for 20-30 seconds, apps frequently quit repeatedly when starting up (lack of memory I guess) and everything is just universally slow.

Im not a beta tester so i can't say what the beta will do. However i can say that Apple needs to correct the problem real fast now, or they will loose the respect of a lot of their iPhone customers.

I do have suggestions for you though. One would be to turn off Spotlight indexing and possibly spell check. I've done so on my 3G and i makes most of the apps very useful again.

Safari still sucks though. At least when the twenty second delay kicks in it does. The trouble is that delay causes problems.

It looks like the 3G is suffering in part from a lack of RAM. So it is likely that 4.0 will always be slow on the 3G. However Apple also has a number of significant bugs in 4.0 so there is no tell how much better it will be in 4.1. I suspect though that 4.1 won't come till september so we will have to stick it out a bit longer.

As a side note im not upgrading my 3G righy now because what im really waiting for is an iPad with more RAM to drop. I learn from my lessons and the number one thing learned from the 3G is to buy devices with enough RAM.
Actually if the beta testers see any sign of this release being iPad compatible let us know.


Dave
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I haven't noticed any speed difference with iOS 4 as compared to 3.x on my iPhone 3G. I don't understand what all the complaining is about.
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All the 3G iPhone owners will you stop complaining please! I'm sick of it upgrade your damn hardware already. You bitch and moan the 3G doesn't even fully support ios4 and you dimwads still updated. Go buy a 3GS or something
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All the 3G iPhone owners will you stop complaining please! I'm sick of it upgrade your damn hardware already. You bitch and moan the 3G doesn't even fully support ios4 and you dimwads still updated. Go buy a 3GS or something

"Wah wah wah, yes, Apple released a buggy and bloated version of iOS. Buy new hardware and deal with it."
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My model of Jawbone is an Icon. It worked perfectly on my old 3G but now functions poorly with my iPhone 4.
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iPhone 3G became noticeably slow when 3.0 came out. You would have only noticed this then if you had used the 3G back in the 2.0 days and had upgraded to 3.0. 4.0 did slow it down a little more but the truth is the 3G has been slow since 3.0. Period. That is why the Spotlight trick makes sense. No doubt RAM plays a role too. If you want your 3G to run smooth, run 2.2.1.

Personally, I'd upgrade to the new iPhone 4. All of the previous iPhones are outdated - including the 3GS. This is coming from a guy who has owned each version of the iPhone since it debuted in Summer 2007.

so my iOS suggestions per iPhone version are:

iPhone (original) - stick with 2.2.1 for optimal performance or run 3.x with Spotlight Search disabled
iPhone 3G - stick with 2.2.1 for optimal performance or run 3.x or 4.x with Spotlight Search disabled
iPhone 3GS - run latest iOS 4.x for optimal performance
iPhone 4 - run latest iOS 4.x for optimal performance
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All the 3G iPhone owners will you stop complaining please! I'm sick of it upgrade your damn hardware already. You bitch and moan the 3G doesn't even fully support ios4 and you dimwads still updated. Go buy a 3GS or something

Mate - there are those of us who have to pay full price for the phone. It's a hellufalot different whether you just tie yourself to AT&T for another 24month, pay a buck and get a new phone or actually having to trapse down to the store, shell out 639 € [that is 829$ BTW] and get a new phone. Sorry but if this were a 50$ a pop phone, no issues, but my 3G still has to last for at least another year.

So have a reality check before you start trolling and insulting others
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Mate - there are those of us who have to pay full price for the phone. It's a hellufalot different whether you just tie yourself to AT&T for another 24month, pay a buck and get a new phone or actually having to trapse down to the store, shell out 639 [that is 829$ BTW] and get a new phone. Sorry but if this were a 50$ a pop phone, no issues, but my 3G still has to last for at least another year.

So have a reality check before you start trolling and insulting others

Your also talking to a guy who's also owned every gen of the iPhone so I'll keep insulting kthnx bi
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iOS 3.1 was released during the Apple music event last year, September 9, 2009. I expect iOS 4.1 will be released during that same event in September of this year.

That's what I'm expecting.

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Actually if the beta testers see any sign of this release being iPad compatible let us know.

My assumption is that iOS 4.1 will support the iPad, but it would be nice to have confirmation.
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Does it improve performance on the 3G? Mine is almost unusable it's so slow. I frequently have safari hang on me for 20-30 seconds, apps frequently quit repeatedly when starting up (lack of memory I guess) and everything is just universally slow.


Ditto
3g needs some major help or a simple safe way to downgrade
to3.x
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"Wah wah wah, yes, Apple released a buggy and bloated version of iOS. Buy new hardware and deal with it."

I have a 3G myself and very much feel the pain but it is not that Apple is forcing us to use iOS 4. Downgrading to 3.1 is pretty simple. So, Apple gives a choice of combined inbox and folders but slower, or continue with 3.1. An iPhone 3G running 3.1.3 is not running any slower than it ran a month or half a year ago.
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Ditto
3g needs some major help or a simple safe way to downgrade

Downgrade is pretty simple:

a:Get 3.1.3, eg, from here: http://board.macnotes.de/6-iphone-un...0-2-2-1-3-0-a/
b: Connect your iPhone to the computer,
c: Press and hold both the home button and the on/off switch, wait until the screen goes black (after a brief interval of the red slider)
d: Release the on/off switch but keep the home button pressed, after a few seconds a message in iTunes should pop up,
e: Press 'Restore' while pressing alt and select the OS version of choice
f: Download RecBoot from here and run it to leave the restore mode.
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I am very surprised that I am not seeing more people having issues with bluetooth connections. My Jawbone is now rendered useless by my new iPhone 4. It always worked fine with my original iPhone and my 3G. My new phone keeps dropping the connection to the bluetooth. When I get in my car my phone stays connected to the ear piece and also connects to my car.

In one car the connection works, in the other it is so garbled it is unusable. I spoke to Apple and they acted as if they had never heard this was an issue.

I have reset my phone and found no difference.

I love my new phone and I feel pretty certain that software updates will fix my problem but I do not like being a beta tester for what should be a finished product. It surprises me that this went undiscovered.

I hope that Apple is able to address this issue with 4.1

Bluetooth seems to work great for me with my VW Jetta's built-in hands-free. Have never had a dropped call or any problem. While I don't doubt you're having problems, I don't see them as being very widespread or necessarily something Apple would necessarily have caught.
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There ate so many other small bugs in iOS, I doubt Apple will ever fix.
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Mate - there are those of us who have to pay full price for the phone. It's a hellufalot different whether you just tie yourself to AT&T for another 24month, pay a buck and get a new phone or actually having to trapse down to the store, shell out 639 [that is 829$ BTW] and get a new phone. Sorry but if this were a 50$ a pop phone, no issues, but my 3G still has to last for at least another year.

So have a reality check before you start trolling and insulting others

Not to be insensitive to your situation or anything, but if I can make it over to Ireland next year after I upgrade to next summer's iPhone I may just try and remember to bring my 16GB 3GS along with me. Who knows. I might still be able to get a few hundred pounds for it then. Be extra spending money on vacation.
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Not to be insensitive to your situation or anything, but if I can make it over to Ireland next year after I upgrade to next summer's iPhone I may just try and remember to bring my 16GB 3GS along with me. Who knows. I might still be able to get a few hundred pounds for it then. Be extra spending money on vacation.

Other than the fact that the Irish gave up the Punt (Pound was the english dicition) for the Euro, this could indeed be a good idea.

At the moment they retail at about 350€ (450$) on eBay, so next year you probably will fetch in the roundabouts of 200€/260$ for it. Better than leaving it in the drawer.....Sláinte
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I have a 3G myself and very much feel the pain but it is not that Apple is forcing us to use iOS 4. Downgrading to 3.1 is pretty simple. So, Apple gives a choice of combined inbox and folders but slower, or continue with 3.1. An iPhone 3G running 3.1.3 is not running any slower than it ran a month or half a year ago.

Keep in mind, however, that an iPhone 3G running 3.1.3 is significantly less secure than an iPhone 3G running iOS 4.x.

Apple is getting flak for not allowing iOS4 on the original iPhone not because of features primarily, but because some severe security issues were found in 3.1.3.
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That's what I'm expecting.


My assumption is that iOS 4.1 will support the iPad, but it would be nice to have confirmation.

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Keep in mind, however, that an iPhone 3G running 3.1.3 is significantly less secure than an iPhone 3G running iOS 4.x.

Apple is getting flak for not allowing iOS4 on the original iPhone not because of features primarily, but because some severe security issues were found in 3.1.3.

What doesn't make sense to me is that other than the radio aren't the original and 3G the same? My guess is there is a lot of software work that has to be done to make iOS4 work on the older 2G only radio. With such a limited number of them still in use it doesn't make financial sense to spend the resources on it. Lets face it, three years on a phone like this is an eternity. Even two years is pushing the edge. Even though I'm planning on upgrading to an iPhone 4, I wish Apple would have just left the 3G off the upgrade path and said that it doesn't have the horsepower to run iOS4.

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