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7/29/10 at 4:32pm
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post #82 of 166
7/29/10 at 4:33pm
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You could always employ a little imagination and envisage a monitor that laid flat on your desk. Like every book and piece of paper you used at high school. It's a good job some people are able to think outside the box, or there would never be any progress...

It hardly constitutes AMAZINg software. But a flat 20" screen would be a nightmare in my view. A touch screen keyboard which would be customizable and application adaptable would be very cool - me thinks.
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post #83 of 166
7/29/10 at 4:33pm
I too am feeling an OSX and iOS convergence coming (or at least a semi-convergence). As some one earlier mentioned, perhaps it is a new type of App store, but instead of running the apps locally, they are all run remotely in a dedicated sandbox that is your account. You can get to any of these apps from your Mac/iPad/iPhone/etc.

Or, maybe this could be just the new program supposedly coming in the new iLife...
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post #84 of 166
7/29/10 at 4:37pm
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Sounds amazingly vague.

Better than the standard Microsoft script of "this is what we really need now, but hope to have in a few years if all goes well".
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post #85 of 166
7/29/10 at 4:40pm
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New antenna that shorts out when you touch it? lol

Wow....an antenna joke....how original.....get a life troll....antenna jokes are lame now...
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post #86 of 166
7/29/10 at 4:43pm
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iOS integration, rapid start, ssd backup drive,
turns on like any appliance
sequestered software, so crashes of total system minimized
no keyboard-laser projected fingers don't touch anything
magic tracpad keyboard
face recognition from the screen, no sign ins.
3d camera support for iChat
eye tracking, face tracking
ota, wireless use of iOS from nearby iphone, ipod touch
HTML5 auto emulation,
chocolate sauce, and M&M's

You should apply for the job!
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post #87 of 166
7/29/10 at 5:00pm
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try using dropbox sometime, there is no conscious upload, your shared folder contents automatically sync - and it's seamless and very fast. This would be nothing new.

Agreed. Stupid of Apple to not have something like Dropbox from the get-go for the iPad.
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post #88 of 166
7/29/10 at 5:04pm
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Apple probably used the word "revolutionary" 3 times when they advertise for janitors.

No, a janitor's job is "magical"
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post #89 of 166
7/29/10 at 5:06pm
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indeed, facetime must eventually = ichat...

My dream is that there are two or three isight cameras on the front of the mac, and that they average their images to make it look like you are looking into the camera when you talk on a video conference, instead of looking at the image of the person you are talking to (looks like staring into space for the person you're talking to). It would deliver the emotional punch to video calling that the medium is crying out for.

I don't think this fits the job description, but it would be "very apple" to make the interface so intuitive and satisfying.
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post #90 of 166
7/29/10 at 5:06pm
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Imagine if there was a Final Cut program written in Go. . .Then Final Cut just runs and you use it like an app with local content. If you need an update, you can visit the URL to get a new copy of the code.

This concept completely shakes up the way developers write apps and users use them and buy them and I think it's something that needs to be done.

But . .but . . we users don't want the way we use things to be shaken up. Users are too conservative to appreciate and put to the best use what you've described. OTOH, I think you've got a handle on something revolutionary and awe-inspiring, something that I would definitely love to see implemented.

On the third hand, this might bring about a lessening of software piracy - good news for consumers with (hopefully) associated price drops.

Marvin, thanks for stretching my mind this evening!
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post #91 of 166
7/29/10 at 5:06pm
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

iOS *is* (or will become), OS-XI except they won't call it that because iOS sounds a heck of a lot better.

Plus, they've run out of cat names.
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post #92 of 166
7/29/10 at 5:36pm
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Apple probably used the word "revolutionary" 3 times when they advertise for janitors. You are reading way too much into it.

-kpluck

I think the more interesting part of the ad was where it said whatever it was had never been done before.
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post #93 of 166
7/29/10 at 5:37pm
Virtualization//Cloud computing the Apple way ( my 2 cents based on job description).
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post #94 of 166
7/29/10 at 5:52pm
I think 10.7 will be the last iteration of OSX, and the last iteration of the desktop paradigm. iOS has already dispensed with it, and OSXI (or whatever they call it) will be the 'revolutionary', possibly 3-D interface where the cloud will be the equivalent of another volume where your music library etc. will be stored.
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post #95 of 166
7/29/10 at 6:30pm
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You think?



...I don't.

Well THATS CHEATING. ... If you're actually gonna take the time to read AND comprehend the words of an article prior to making a comment then they'll be forced into pulling you're forum posting privilages.
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post #96 of 166
7/29/10 at 6:38pm
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I don't think this is right at all.

For starters it makes no sense at all to integrate iOS into Mac OS-X. It's like advocating that all Windows Vista needed was to integrated into a DOS environment. Touch-screen desktop computing makes little sense to begin with, and the fact that you can't pick up your desktop and roll it around to activate the compass, gyroscope or tilt sensors makes the whole thing ridiculous.

Secondly, they don't need to hire some new genius just to do that. It would be fairly straightforward to do the coding, just like running Classic used to be.

Third, the mention of HTML and web technologies makes it sound far more likely this has something to do with the server farm apple is almost finished building. While the common wisdom was that this farm would be used for iTunes streaming, it could also be that they will use it instead to do that "portable home folder" idea that's been floating around for a while.

I like the way you're thinking... However something seems to be screaming LOOK AT THE SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGIES Apple has acquired over the not too distant past.
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post #97 of 166
7/29/10 at 6:42pm
What if Apple was about to do an end around on the cable companies using iTunes and those data centers. 1080p is great but 720p is very good for TV and all a person would need is an internet connection. I believe that 720p can be streamed as long as there is enough servers. Imagine that you like to watch the American channels but not all of them and in fact only few shows, but you do like world content, but can't get that. With Apples' connections it could be easy to feature all the content and have people signup just for what they want to view. All of this handled through the iTunes account. in most cases it would be cheaper than cable, and if packaged correctly, better. Also games could be distributed like this as well as applications. Currently there is no to little competition for cable TV, but the internet is changing that and Apple is in a perfect place to take advantage of that.
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post #98 of 166
7/29/10 at 6:42pm
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maybe we will finally get the virtual assistant from the knowledge navigator. well i can hope...

THIS .... Oh and look back five or so months ago and notice the company Apple purchased. I'll link to a video if I can find it... Of the new software ... Not knowledge navigator...

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post #99 of 166
7/29/10 at 7:04pm
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New antenna that shorts out when you touch it? lol


Wow, you wet through the whole registration process just to make that one incredibly lame comment. Good job.
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post #100 of 166
7/29/10 at 7:09pm
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Originally Posted by JasonBee View Post

I read the first few lines of this article and came to the same conclusion.

This should get interesting. I like the open nature of OS configurations as we have them...but a new day is coming. I will go out on a limb and state for the record that I think the iOS, for better or for worse, is the future of consumer computing, and possibly enterprise desktop computing.

The revenue options/revenue streams are not like anything the industry has ever experienced to date and I'm sure they're working hard on Apple's lead to bring those options to the desktop where everyone truly live and works.

JB

iOS integrated into OSX but as a sandboxed closed/curated 'enclave' inside OSX. So you can run iOS apps in your desktop, and still keep the full flexibility and openness of OSX.

Why the hell would Mr. Jobs have Apple do such a complicated thing? Because this, after laying all the groundwork these past 10 years, is where Apple pivots and converts all those iPad, iPhone and iPod Touch owners who are still using PCs into Mac owners. The selling proposition is hard to resist. All those apps you have on your iOS device? You can now run them on your Mac and switch seamlessly between devices without missing a beat.

Now there will be other things, mostly to do with cloud computing but the iOS integration is the piece de resistance.

Which brings Apple closer to the future I predicted for them: Your desktop in your pocket. An iPhone running the iOS enclave when you are out and about, but connect it to a large monitor and keyboard and the iPhone becomes a touch pad while MacOS emerges from behind iOS.

You heard it here first. In fact if you have been paying attention, you heard it here a few months ago.
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post #101 of 166
7/29/10 at 8:18pm
Yesterday I caught something about steve jobs tweeting about "AppEase" as part of the 2011 Ilife suite...
"iLife '11: Introducing AppEase. Make an app in a snap. 11:05 AM Jul 26th via Twitter for iPhone"
I found that while reading an article on why idvd does not show up for ilife 2011, maybe there is need for someone to work on this application.
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post #102 of 166
7/29/10 at 8:18pm
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Originally Posted by nkhm View Post

try using dropbox sometime, there is no conscious upload, your shared folder contents automatically sync - and it's seamless and very fast. This would be nothing new.

Ideally you want something like this built into the heart of the OS.

I think we have now reached the point where a true "internet" operating system makes sense. One that expects to be connected by a fast connection most of the time and one that expects to be just another portal into your data along side a whole bunch of other devices you own (iPhone, iPad, AppleTV, etc). The era of the lone home PC is over. The future is multiple devices all connected online.
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post #103 of 166
7/29/10 at 8:24pm
...just on a lark...The Beatles on iTunes?
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post #104 of 166
7/29/10 at 8:28pm
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Which brings Apple closer to the future I predicted for them: Your desktop in your pocket. An iPhone running the iOS enclave when you are out and about, but connect it to a large monitor and keyboard and the iPhone becomes a touch pad while MacOS emerges from behind iOS.

I really don't think so. This sounds like the old idea of a single CPU and dumb terminals. You forget how cheap and widespread fast CPUs are becoming.

Big companies used to own a single computer. Then we got the computer on every desk. Today each one of us has multiple computers (including desktops, laptops, games consoles, phones, iPads, etc). This is just going to increase.

Instead of using the iPhone to drive the display, just put a CPU in the display and let it access your data via the network.
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post #105 of 166
7/29/10 at 8:46pm
Don't know what it's worth in real use, though. But they could do that.
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post #106 of 166
7/29/10 at 8:56pm
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iOS integrated into OSX but as a sandboxed closed/curated 'enclave' inside OSX.

Bingo, sir*.

[Why does everyone feel that they have to copy and misuse every single yuppie-MBA buzzword that someone of importance uses. Before April 2010, no one used "curate" and suddenly it's the buzzword du jour. What do you think "curated" means? Try using plain English and drop the pretentious and incorrect use of currently-popular buzzwords.]

* Dilbert!
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post #107 of 166
7/29/10 at 9:03pm
Whatever it is will have a serious connection to cloud computing, despite some folks having qualms about bandwidth. Apple's dropping at least a billion into the North Carolina server farm, and that presupposes plenty of confidence in a robust Internet and bandwidth for streaming, cloud apps and computing, storage, etc. You have to figure that the NC center will have plenty of excess capacity at the outset to accommodate growth in usage. The next OS X will further leverage the Apple ecosystem for those who take advantage of its devices. In the end, it's always about enhancing the user experience. If this works out as Apple expects, don't stop with North Carolina. Look for more centers elsewhere in the country and the world, and who better has the cash to spend. Has it crossed anyone's mind that - big as it is - North Carolina may just be a pilot project along Apple's long term growth map for online offerings?

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post #108 of 166
7/29/10 at 10:26pm
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Bingo, sir*.

[Why does everyone feel that they have to copy and misuse every single yuppie-MBA buzzword that someone of importance uses. Before April 2010, no one used "curate" and suddenly it's the buzzword du jour. What do you think "curated" means? Try using plain English and drop the pretentious and incorrect use of currently-popular buzzwords.]

* Dilbert!

It's the term that Mr. Jobs himself uses about iTunes and the app store and already has an accepted meaning within the context of this discussion. So your lordship might disapprove of its business school origins but it does what words are supposed to do, which is to refer with much economy of effort to a commonly accepted meaning. Yes, it strays from the original meaning of the term but no one, not even you, gets to decide if that's allowed or not. You don't even know what single word in 'plain' English should be used in its place that exactly captures what 'curated' conveys in this particular context.

Do you think that words have kept their original meaning throughout the generations and all words were not at some point in time coined by someone, somewhere but instead existed since even before the dawn of civilization? Then you are a fool, a hidebound, narrow-minded, mutton-headed dolt of perilously little learning and even less imagination. Words have ever been coined, adopted, adapted, even stolen and misused to label new objects, actions, situations, and contexts. But I'm sure if you squint and think really hard you will realize that you already know that since you are, after all, an expert on the English language.
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post #109 of 166
7/29/10 at 10:47pm
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Douche

I think you mean iDouche
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7/29/10 at 10:48pm
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Wow, you wet through the whole registration process just to make that one incredibly lame comment. Good job.

Good story bro.
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post #111 of 166
7/29/10 at 10:53pm
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iOS integration, rapid start, ssd backup drive,
turns on like any appliance
sequestered software, so crashes of total system minimized
no keyboard-laser projected fingers don't touch anything
magic tracpad keyboard
face recognition from the screen, no sign ins.
3d camera support for iChat
eye tracking, face tracking
ota, wireless use of iOS from nearby iphone, ipod touch
HTML5 auto emulation,
chocolate sauce, and M&M's

You know, you do have something there..
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7/29/10 at 10:56pm
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I really don't think so. This sounds like the old idea of a single CPU and dumb terminals.

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Instead of using the iPhone to drive the display, just put a CPU in the display and let it access your data via the network.

Aren't these two statements somewhat contradictory? What does CPU in the display and access via network mean if not a terminal?
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7/29/10 at 10:58pm
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iOS integrated into OSX but as a sandboxed closed/curated 'enclave' inside OSX. So you can run iOS apps in your desktop, and still keep the full flexibility and openness of OSX.

Why the hell would Mr. Jobs have Apple do such a complicated thing? Because this, after laying all the groundwork these past 10 years, is where Apple pivots and converts all those iPad, iPhone and iPod Touch owners who are still using PCs into Mac owners. The selling proposition is hard to resist. All those apps you have on your iOS device? You can now run them on your Mac and switch seamlessly between devices without missing a beat.

Now there will be other things, mostly to do with cloud computing but the iOS integration is the piece de resistance.

Which brings Apple closer to the future I predicted for them: Your desktop in your pocket. An iPhone running the iOS enclave when you are out and about, but connect it to a large monitor and keyboard and the iPhone becomes a touch pad while MacOS emerges from behind iOS.

You heard it here first. In fact if you have been paying attention, you heard it here a few months ago.

Yup you guys on the forum seem to be have the right idea. I'm totally looking forward to something like that. Guess Apple will still have 'copied' the feature(s) for some folks, but we've stopped caring what those people think a long, long time ago.
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post #114 of 166
7/29/10 at 11:06pm
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

I don't think this is right at all.

For starters it makes no sense at all to integrate iOS into Mac OS-X. It's like advocating that all Windows Vista needed was to integrated into a DOS environment. Touch-screen desktop computing makes little sense to begin with, and the fact that you can't pick up your desktop and roll it around to activate the compass, gyroscope or tilt sensors makes the whole thing ridiculous.

Secondly, they don't need to hire some new genius just to do that. It would be fairly straightforward to do the coding, just like running Classic used to be.

Third, the mention of HTML and web technologies makes it sound far more likely this has something to do with the server farm apple is almost finished building. While the common wisdom was that this farm would be used for iTunes streaming, it could also be that they will use it instead to do that "portable home folder" idea that's been floating around for a while.

I think you're a bit off, Prof. First things first, iOS:Mac OS X is NOT DOS:Windows.

Secondly, it doesn't have to be touch screen necessarily. Also, iOS is not about gyros and tilt sensors, those are HW features that belong to the device that the OS supports for applications for that device.

Third, I don't think that it is straightforward. I guess all I can say is that if Apple says a job is tough, it is tough.

Fourth, you're right that web technologies mentioned makes it almost certain that the server farm is involved, but I wouldn't limit my thinking to iTunes. It could be for a few things. The size and cost of the server farm that Apple is building hints at a much larger application than just that. Amazon and Google's server farms are about half that size usually. And they serve their own cloud computing platforms, like mail for hundreds of millions of people.
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post #115 of 166
7/29/10 at 11:50pm
I think you get both - on MacBookPro close the screen and BOOM it's iPad with iOS, open the screen it's MacBookPro..alternatively you can touch the screen in OSX as well - magical!
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7/29/10 at 11:54pm
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Aren't these two statements somewhat contradictory? What does CPU in the display and access via network mean if not a terminal?

A dumb terminal doesn't have any processing power worth speaking of. It needs to be driven by something else.

But "dumb" devices are being replaced by "smart" devices. We now have smart phones, web enabled TVs, fancy in car systems and the trend is increasing. We really don't need to connect an iPhone to do the processing (as tundraboy was suggesting), when the device has enough CPU power on its own.
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7/29/10 at 11:56pm
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I think you get both - on MacBookPro close the screen and BOOM it's iPad with iOS, open the screen it's MacBookPro..alternatively you can touch the screen in OSX as well - magical!

Sounds like one of those Windows laptops that turn into a tablet when you close the screen - you know the things that almost no one wanted to buy.
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post #118 of 166
7/30/10 at 12:21am
I know what it is... Virtual Steve!
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post #119 of 166
7/30/10 at 12:45am
I think Apple plants stories like this one so you guys do the brainstorming for them.
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post #120 of 166
7/30/10 at 12:58am
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Originally Posted by lvidal View Post

But, I really think it could be App Store for Mac.

That would certainly explain the data centre. Steam, after all, is able to sell PC games from the cloud, and they are some of the biggest apps there are.
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