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7/29/10 at 4:39pm
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7/29/10 at 4:42pm
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7/29/10 at 4:43pm
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And, as a rather content(ed) owner/user of an Apple iPad with 64/Wigi+3G, I can honestly say that you are lying, just so that you can make another anti-Apple point.

Tiresome, man. Give it up.

Frankly, that's all DaHarder has now, is basically thinly veiled trolling in every thread he posts in. I really don't think he's used an iPhone 4 or an iPad, but he's sure trying to say as many bad things about it as he can. My bet? If I didn't say anything now, when Android tablets come out, he'd be shamelessly praising them despite being an "oversized" Android device but having given iPad no credit.
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post #44 of 187
7/29/10 at 4:44pm
Quit attacking Ballmer! He's done a excellent job for..............Apple! He should stay.
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post #45 of 187
7/29/10 at 4:45pm
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Seems kind of a boring regular sort of article. I've seen about a half dozen over the last month or so that say essentially the same thing.

Yep.
The problem I have with Microsoft-related articles is that they're all boring because they're about a boring company that produces boring products.
I've tried to read all the articles you mentioned, and I can't get through them. Even with the one linked I read the first couple of graphs and skimmed the rest. It's just not worth it, whether this article or the new Office for Mac stories I tried getting through yesterday.
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post #46 of 187
7/29/10 at 4:52pm
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Ballmer told the audience that new Microsoft tablets, "will be shipping as soon as they are ready. It has job one urgency around here, nobody's sleeping at this point.

And that is precisely why your company fails at everything it does. You wait to see what the others do, rush a half-assed copy, and then put your feet on the table. It worked for Windows, but it's not working for anything else.
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post #47 of 187
7/29/10 at 5:11pm
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Windows tablets? Please. They should stick with gas pumps.

Haha. Yea well weather we like it or not Win7 "Slates" are coming. A year from now or two years but there is no question in my mind that we'll see them. The only question is weather they will be crushed by Android or Chrome. I think it will be a closer battle between Google and MS then it is currently in the phone side, simply because MS can just bring all the programs they have on Win7 over to Win7 Tablet edition.
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7/29/10 at 5:14pm
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Conversely... as the rather content owner/user of an Apple iPad 64/WiFi+3g, I can honestly say that it's really just an enlarged, overpriced iPod Touch lacking the convenience of being pocketable.

As the owner of an iPad Touch, I use my 32/wifi+3G iPad much differently than I use my iPod Touch. The iPad is mistily about apps, books and information with a little bit of music and video. IPod Touch is mostly music and a few games. Might seem that one is oversized version of the other, but use is significantly different.
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7/29/10 at 5:14pm
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"Windows is everywhere. ...

True. It's the reason everything fu***ing breaks.
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post #50 of 187
7/29/10 at 5:15pm
Steve Ballmer - who gives a rats @..

Apologies if I've pushed the edge of decency in the forum.
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post #51 of 187
7/29/10 at 5:19pm
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Haha. Yea well weather we like it or not Win7 "Slates" are coming. A year from now or two years but there is no question in my mind that we'll see them. The only question is weather they will be crushed by Android or Chrome. I think it will be a closer battle between Google and MS then it is currently in the phone side, simply because MS can just bring all the programs they have on Win7 over to Win7 Tablet edition.

I understand what you're driving at, but seriously, could they bring the Office bloat into an environment with a much smaller performance factor? And once they do, do you think they'll sustain it? We may see it, but I think it will die as quickly as the...what was that thing again they just pulled off the market?
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post #52 of 187
7/29/10 at 5:22pm
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Haha. Yea well weather we like it or not Win7 "Slates" are coming.

Tablets, slates, whatever you want to call them - have been out for years. Yet I've seen more iPads in the past couple months than I've ever seen "slates". A "slate" has just been a WinPC that folds over on itself and requires a stylus. Woohoo.

A Windows 7 (8, 9, whatever) "slate" will be just as craptacular running Windows as anything has ever been.
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post #53 of 187
7/29/10 at 5:24pm
If Microsoft really wants to sell a good tablet, they should adopt the OS they created for Zune HD instead of stitching Windows into a tablet computer.

Note to Jobs, don't forget to ask Ballmer for permission next time before selling so many of anything.
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post #54 of 187
7/29/10 at 5:24pm
Where the hell are Microsoft tablet vendors going to get parts from? Memory is going to be scarce along with any high-grade displays. Apple will have component suppliers tied up until the spring of next year before displays can be made in high-production quantities. It seems to foolish for Microsoft to be running and chasing Apple to produce a tablet. It's merely a knee-jerk reaction without any real planning. It'll probably just interrupt Microsoft internal planning on some other projects unless they use those Kin employees that will have nothing much to do. Besides, the iPad doesn't present any threat to Windows desktops that I can see.
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post #55 of 187
7/29/10 at 5:27pm
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It's merely a knee-jerk reaction without any real planning.

Sounds like the Zune. Or Kin. (or Bob, or...)
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post #56 of 187
7/29/10 at 5:34pm
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I understand what you're driving at, but seriously, could they bring the Office bloat into an environment with a much smaller performance factor? And once they do, do you think they'll sustain it? We may see it, but I think it will die as quickly as the...what was that thing again they just pulled off the market?

Kin is what you are thinking of, kin. No one said it'll be good, but it will be office, outlook and exchange that people are used to and they will flock to it like they always do. MS is losing the consumer battle, but they are still top dog when it comes to corporate productivity software and I have a feeling they can milk that for many years to come. Unless... someone moves us away from .doc(x), then Microsoft is totally fucked.
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post #57 of 187
7/29/10 at 5:35pm
The only reason MS made any profit is because it takes time to replace all the crap that y sold over the past 25 years to be replaced. Sooner or later and I am hoping sooner MS will be sent to its rightful place. The Garbage Dump.

As far as Tablets are concerned Blamer should only be concerned about the ones he is going to swallow.

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post #58 of 187
7/29/10 at 5:42pm
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After fretting about Apple's ominous iPad sales numbers, Baller also took the opportunity to criticize the product, saying "I don't think there is one size that fits all [] I've been to too many meetings with journalists who spent the first 10 minutes of the meeting setting up iPad to look like a laptop." Presumably, Ballmer meant pulling out a Bluetooth keyboard.

I have a bluetooth keyboard. I've connected it to my iPad a couple of times. If it took as much as ten seconds, I'd be surprised. Maybe the other 9.9 minutes was humoring Ballmer while he bitched about seeing an iPad.
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post #59 of 187
7/29/10 at 5:43pm
Mr Sore Ballmer is a real sour grape!

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post #60 of 187
7/29/10 at 5:49pm
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

And, as a rather content(ed) owner/user of an Apple iPad with 64/Wigi+3G, I can honestly say that you are lying, just so that you can make another anti-Apple point.

Tiresome, man. Give it up.

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Frankly, that's all DaHarder has now, is basically thinly veiled trolling in every thread he posts in. I really don't think he's used an iPhone 4 or an iPad, but he's sure trying to say as many bad things about it as he can. My bet? If I didn't say anything now, when Android tablets come out, he'd be shamelessly praising them despite being an "oversized" Android device but having given iPad no credit.

Oh Really... ?

Then I Guess the Absolute Truth Is Tiresome Then, as here's a pic (taken only minutes ago) of my iMac 27/i7, MacBook Pro 13, iPad 64/WiFi+3g, Apple iPhone 3GS (work phone), iPod Nano/16gb, iPod Touch/64gb... etc.

Understand, I own many more 'Apple' products, but this should be more than enough to make clear just how silly it is to make sweeping assumptions about matters of which you know absolutely nothing.



Enjoy... as I sure do enjoy my iPad - ;-)
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post #61 of 187
7/29/10 at 6:00pm
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Haha. Yea well weather we like it or not Win7 "Slates" are coming. A year from now or two years but there is no question in my mind that we'll see them. The only question is weather they will be crushed by Android or Chrome. I think it will be a closer battle between Google and MS then it is currently in the phone side, simply because MS can just bring all the programs they have on Win7 over to Win7 Tablet edition.

Perhaps the ironic thing is that the .NET 4 Touch SDK is actually pretty decent, as is the C# language compared to Objective-C. Combine that with some rather nice database, connectivity, and kernel technology and there's really no technical reason why Microsoft SHOULDN'T be able to make a kick-ass touch device. What they appear to be utterly incompetent at is using technology to build an actual solution to consumer needs and integrating well into a consumer's life. They still seem driven by the feature checklist and battling their competitors rather than just building good stuff for people.
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post #62 of 187
7/29/10 at 6:01pm
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What a bilious response...

Sorry. Didn't mean it that way. Shouldn't have said "boring" I guess.
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post #63 of 187
7/29/10 at 6:11pm
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Remarkable, just remarkable.

Ballmer has absolutely no clue how the iPad happened. Love it or hate it, iPad is the culmination of leveraged technologies dating back to NeXT. Mac OS X, iMac, iPod, Front Row, and of course iPhone all had a part in it. Ballmer IS completely lost if he thinks a "Job One" crash program will produce a serious competitor.

Anyway, a death-marched "Windows 7 Tablet" should bring some good yucks when it finally shows up.

LOL... Ballmer had no clue how the iPhone happened. One day Apple had "the most expensive phone with no market share" (chortled Ballmer, famously), and then 3 years later, Microsoft is cancelling the Kin and watching Win Mobile 6 slide into oblivion while they furiously try to knock off the iPhone experience with a Zune Phone Series 7 Series Series. All hoping that it doesn't suffer the same fate as the Palm webOS.
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post #64 of 187
7/29/10 at 6:23pm
YOU ALL JUST WAIT!

tab lets are a waste of time.
the microsoft SURFACE is going to take the computing industry by storm!
everyone wants their computer to be a big ass table, not a handheld device.
when will apple realize this and start making hardware the size of dining room tables?
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post #65 of 187
7/29/10 at 6:29pm
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The thing with netbook is, it really is just a cheap underpowered laptop. You need very little tweaking in order to get windows to work with it. As for tablets, you cannot just add touch controls and expect it to work. You cannot just replace the mouse with your finger.

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Conversely... as the rather content owner/user of an Apple iPad 64/WiFi+3g, I can honestly say that it's really just an enlarged, overpriced iPod Touch lacking the convenience of being pocketable.

just goes to show that two simplistic points of view don't add up to much, really.
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post #66 of 187
7/29/10 at 6:35pm
I read somewhere that Microsoft has 3,100 PhDs working for them. What an extraordinary waste of talent.
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post #67 of 187
7/29/10 at 6:36pm
omg, they have... nothing.
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7/29/10 at 6:37pm
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Frankly, that's all DaHarder has now, is basically thinly veiled trolling in every thread he posts in. I really don't think he's used an iPhone 4 or an iPad, but he's sure trying to say as many bad things about it as he can. My bet? If I didn't say anything now, when Android tablets come out, he'd be shamelessly praising them despite being an "oversized" Android device but having given iPad no credit.

As someone who has been very happily utilizing a fully-rooted Archos 5 IT/32gb, running Android 2.2 (Froyo), I can honestly say that's it's been a rather pleasant experience, hardly as 'refined' as my iPad but still smooth, convienient and fast.

It definitely comes in handy when my iPad/64gb is just too large, my iPod Touch/64gb is too small, or my Lenovo S10-3t is just too much of a real computer to suit my needs.



(pictured above are my iPad 64/WiFi+3g, Archos 5IT/32gb, iPod Touch 64gb, and Lenovo S10-3t Windows 7 Tablet Convertible).
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7/29/10 at 6:40pm
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Oh Really... ?

Then I Guess the Absolute Truth Is Tiresome Then, as here's a pic (taken only minutes ago) of my iMac 27/i7, MacBook Pro 13, iPad 64/WiFi+3g, Apple iPhone 3GS (work phone), iPod Nano/16gb, iPod Touch/64gb... etc.

Understand, I own many more 'Apple' products, but this should be more than enough to make clear just how silly it is to make sweeping assumptions about matters for which you know absolutely nothing.



Enjoy... as I sure do enjoy my iPad - ;-)

If those pictures indeed represent stuff that that you bought and now own and use -- which, I doubt -- all I can say is, you're just not a sadist, but a sadomasochist!

It takes all kinds, I guess.......

Whatever works for you. But still, you're tiresome. And predictable.
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7/29/10 at 6:44pm
The idea that Microsoft "made netbooks happen" is ludicrous.

They MISSED THE BOAT ON NETBOOKS COMPLETELY, with VISTA UNABLE TO RUN ON THEM, so netbooks had to come with Linux or Windows XP on them - At the time, a 6 or 7 year-old operating system. MANUFACTURERS HAS TO STRUGGLE WITH MICROSOFT SOFTWARE to get it to run on netbooks - it was a hindrance, not a help!

BULL F---ING SHIT, Mr. Balmer.

Bulls---.

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7/29/10 at 6:45pm
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Here is a very thoughtful article on Balmer/MS from today's WSJ...

It's rather short as far as WSJ articles go (good news for some on this board), very informative and I would really recommend it.

Plus, the 'monkey boy' insults are somewhat sophomoric and very tiresome!


http://online.wsj.com/article_email/...TEyNDkyWj.html

This article will be available to non-subscribers of the Online Journal for up to seven days.

Would be interested in what you guys and gals think of it! It's not very complementary either. Seems to say MS should stick to Windows OS, Office and Xbox.

Best

Let me know if the link doesn't work.

Like Ballmer, the WSJ unsurprisingly (it IS the WSJ) underestimates Apple when he writes " There's a reason new business models tend to be pioneered by new players." Apple is less than a year 'younger' than MS! Making excuses for MS isn't going to stop the time bomb under Ballmer's chair.
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7/29/10 at 6:46pm
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Here is a very thoughtful article on Balmer/MS from today's WSJ...

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One day, all of a sudden perhaps, shareholders will decide they've been waiting for a train that will never come.

Good God, as in investment, MSFT has been dead money for ten years! The MSFT train left in 1995. It's not coming back.

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It's rather short as far as WSJ articles go (good news for some on this board),

Just what are you trying to say christopher?
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7/29/10 at 6:48pm
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Oh Really... ?

Then I Guess the Absolute Truth Is Tiresome Then, as here's a pic (taken only minutes ago) of my iMac 27/i7, MacBook Pro 13, iPad 64/WiFi+3g, Apple iPhone 3GS (work phone), iPod Nano/16gb, iPod Touch/64gb... etc.

Understand, I own many more 'Apple' products, but this should be more than enough to make clear just how silly it is to make sweeping assumptions about matters for which you know absolutely nothing.



Enjoy... as I sure do enjoy my iPad - ;-)

I pegged you as a lying, piece of shit troll. You might be a piece of shit troll, but at least you're an honest one. Hats off....
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7/29/10 at 6:54pm
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If those pictures indeed represent stuff that that you bought and now own and use -- which, I doubt -- all I can say is, you're just not a sadist, but a sadomasochist!

It takes all kinds, I guess.......

Whatever works for you. But still, you're tiresome. And predictable.

The feeling is entirely mutual, but I don't take these matters quite as seriously as many in here by questioning people's integrity, calling them liars, or insulting their positions on these (admittedly) trivial matters.

I evaluate the efforts of all these manufacturers more fairly than most, lauding them for their successes and criticizing them for their stumbles... as I feel justified in doing given that it's my money I've spent on their wares.
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post #75 of 187
7/29/10 at 7:03pm
Hardware suppliers made things happen with netbooks. You wanted aircraft carriers you could charge full price for windows.

You were late to the dance with a series of three products the last of which finally stuck. You're lucky, not good.
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7/29/10 at 7:08pm
Steve Ballmer: 'Apple sold more iPads than I'd like them to sell'

Then stop producing sh*t.

Then again, may Ballmer continue at the helm of Microjunk for years to come.
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7/29/10 at 7:09pm
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Oh Really... ?

Then I Guess the Absolute Truth Is Tiresome Then, as here's a pic (taken only minutes ago) of my iMac 27/i7, MacBook Pro 13, iPad 64/WiFi+3g, Apple iPhone 3GS (work phone), iPod Nano/16gb, iPod Touch/64gb... etc.

Understand, I own many more 'Apple' products, but this should be more than enough to make clear just how silly it is to make sweeping assumptions about matters for which you know absolutely nothing.



Enjoy... as I sure do enjoy my iPad - ;-)

So you're just a really confused troll?
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7/29/10 at 7:16pm
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So you're just a really confused troll?

Most likely just someone with a truly well-rounded perspective
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post #79 of 187
7/29/10 at 7:17pm
Ballmer is nothing but a fat, greasy, sweaty monkey dancing fool. He's missed the boat on so many levels with Microsloth. No wonder they are a non threat....can't come up with anything original that their customers actually want. Always has to steal other people's thunder and then miserably f*ck it up...
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7/29/10 at 7:20pm
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Steve Ballmer: 'Apple sold more iPads than I'd like them to sell'

Then stop producing sh*t.

Then again, may Ballmer continue at the helm of Microjunk for years to come.

Speaking of sh*t, they sure laid an egg with the Kin, didn't they?

200 units? That's an even bigger dud than the great Ryan Leaf.
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