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Microsoft announced Monday that Office for Mac 2011 will arrive at the end of October with a lower price per installation for all editions, starting at $119.

The latest version of Microsoft Office will be available in more than 100 countries at the end of October. Two editions will be available for purchase: Office for Mac Home and Student 2011, starting at $119, and Office for Mac Home and Business 2011, starting at $199.

Microsoft said the new pricing and edition options available with Office for Mac 2011 are closer to the software's Windows counterpart. In addition, customers who purchase Office 2008 for Mac will be able to upgrade to Office 2011 at no cost through the Microsoft Office for Mac Technology Guarantee Program.

"We develop Office for Mac to give you the tools to create great-looking and compatible documents -- with options to pick the right edition for your Mac needs," said Eric Wilfrid, general manager with the Macintosh Business Unit at Microsoft. "More than ever before, Office 2011 brings the familiar productivity tools and features of Microsoft Office to a suite of applications that work great on the Mac."

The 32-bit software suite will be available in 13 launguages: Danish, Dutch, English, Finnish, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Norwegian, Spanish and Swedish. Two new languages were also added to the mix for this year's update: Polish and Russian.

Customers who buy Office 2008 for Mac between Aug. 1, 2010 and Nov. 30, 2010 at Microsoft or an authorized reseller are qualified for a free upgrade to the latest version. Customers can register online and must submit a form with their product key and dated sales receipt by Dec. 31, 2010.

Starting at $119, Microsoft Office for Mac Home and Student 2011 includes Word, PowerPoint, Excel and Messenger. A Family Pack will also be available for $149, with three installs.

For $199, Microsoft Office for Mac Home and Business 2011 includes Word, PowerPoint, Excel and Messenger, and also adds Outlook into the mix. The return of Outlook will be an application written from the ground up in Cocoa for Mac OS X. A family pack for the Business edition of Office for Mac 2011 will run $279, with two installs available. Home and Student customers can also upgrade to the higher-end product through the online upgrade functionality.

Finally, authorized academic stores will also sell a discounted version of the suite, dubbed Microsoft Office for Mac Academic 2011, for higher education students, staff and faculty. For $99, users get one installation including Word, PowerPoint, Excel, Messenger and Outlook.

For more, see AppleInsider's extensive coverage of Office for Mac 2011:

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post #2 of 61
Those prices seem very competitive.
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That lower price tells me that Apple's pricing pressure with iWork ($79) is starting to scare Mafia$oft.

In the interest of fairness, I will say that the Mac version of Office has really improved over that last couple of years. Now, I don't puke a little into my mouth every time I look at.
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An extra $80 to get outlook? A bit steep....
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It's pretty lame that on the Apple store website (at least in Denmark), MS Office only shows up if you specifically search for it - if you just browse under the Productivity category, only iWork shows up. Not only that, but the Home/Student version is about 50% more expensive than it is at any other retailer...

Apple.dk doesn't even offer Adobe lightroom - I guess they're trying to save Aperture in a similar fashion.
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Originally Posted by qualar View Post

Those prices seem very competitive.

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Originally Posted by Cubert View Post

That lower price tells me that Apple's pricing pressure with iWork ($79) is starting to scare Mafia$oft.

In the interest of fairness, I will say that the Mac version of Office has really improved over that last couple of years. Now, I don't puke a little into my mouth every time I look at.

Finally the prices make a bit more sense. The Office for business Mac users was outrageously priced... And the home and student edition "force bundled" 3 home/student licenses so individual users ended up paying more.

Certainly iWork has put some strong pressure on Microsoft. The hideousness that is PowerPoint laid bare by the elegance of Keynote.

However, more affordable Office = more Mac purchases = more Office for Mac purchases.

Now when can we ever get rid of Office completely, that is another question.
post #7 of 61
It used to be that you could install Office on both your desktop and laptop with one license. It looks like those days are over -- the net result being that the cost will double for users who relied on this feature.
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Originally Posted by Superbass View Post

It's pretty lame that on the Apple store website (at least in Denmark), MS Office only shows up if you specifically search for it - if you just browse under the Productivity category, only iWork shows up. Not only that, but the Home/Student version is about 50% more expensive than it is at any other retailer...

Apple.dk doesn't even offer Adobe lightroom - I guess they're trying to save Aperture in a similar fashion.

Must be an issue in Denmark because the U.S. Apple Store shows all versions of Office (together and separate).
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/hom...co=MTY2MTY4NTQ

Strangely though, Lightroom is absent from the store but I didn't look everywhere.
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We have MS Office Mac 2008 Home and Student and it came with three separate product keys on the back of the CD case for three installations. As far as I know this was the only SKU available. I paid around $120 CAD for it at a retail store, without asking for an educational discount.

The new pricing for the 2010 version seems like less of a good deal to me. Unless street prices will be lower than this?
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I'm looking forward to it... I do a lot of work at home on my Mac for work, and although compatibility isn't really an issue, learning and being profficient in two very different versions of Office is taxing.

Bring on Visio and MS Project!

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Any chance this (might just) tie in with the rumored back to school release of iWork???

Rumour has it that there is iLife 2010 and iWork 2010 in the pipes and September/October is a good guess on the release date. Rumour also has it that there is an iPad update in the works for the same time period.

Since iWork is already on the iPad (albeit in beta form), it would seem a no brainer that we are in for an killer update of iWork for the PC as well as mobile, sometimes in the next couple of months. I don't see how they can get away with the feeble productivity software situation on the iPad for very long, and I expect that exigency to drive faster revisions of iWork than we are used to.
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We have Office Mac 2008 Home and Student and it came with three separate product keys on the back of the CD case for three installations. As far as I know this was the only SKU available. I paid around $120 CAD for it at a retail store, without asking for an educational discount.

The new pricing for Office Mac 2011 seems like less of a good deal to me. Unless street prices are expected to be lower.
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I'm looking forward to it... I do a lot of work at home on my Mac for work, and although compatibility isn't really an issue, learning and being profficient in two very different versions of Office is taxing.

Bring on Visio and MS Project!

Me too, I don't find compatibility too much of a problem between iWork and Office, but personally I prefer Office. It's probably a familiarity thing, since I've been using Office for 15 years now, but I actually find iWork more clunky.

Plus, I think Excel is far superior to Numbers.
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Those prices seem very competitive.

Not when i can get an office suite for free. Office is super expensive, bloated, software designed to lock you into the proprietary, patent encumbered, Microsoft file formats thereby locking in continuous super expensive upgrades ($$$ for Microsoft). No thanks. You might have money to burn, but i do not.
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An extra $80 to get outlook? A bit steep....

It's so they can address both home and business markets with the same suite.

Outlook is Office's "killer app" for business, so business have to buy the expensive package.

Home users don't need it as much, so they are able to offer cheaper prices to be competitive in that market as well.
post #16 of 61
Previously labeled Microsoft Office for Mac 2009 the company decided, what the hell, just go ahead and release something. The customers will be our beta team and by March we think it will be in shape.
post #17 of 61
$119 in competition with a product that students get for $55 with nothing extra, everyone else gets for $79. Add an extra $80 to get an app with no better featureset than one that all Mac users get for free. Sounds real competitive.
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Not when i can get an office suite for free. Office is super expensive, bloated, software designed to lock you into the proprietary, patent encumbered, Microsoft file formats thereby locking in continuous super expensive upgrades ($$$ for Microsoft). No thanks. You might have money to burn, but i do not.

Microsoft Office supports OpenDocument Text, Spreadsheet and Presentation. I agree with you on the price though. I wouldn't pay that much if all I'm doing is writing some letter or creating a pamphlet at home.



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$119 in competition with a product that students get for $55 with nothing extra, everyone else gets for $79. Add an extra $80 to get an app with no better featureset than one that all Mac users get for free. Sounds real competitive.

$119 is too expensive for home use. $50 per license in the home pack is better but still on the expensive side. The $80 is more than worth it for business that use the extra features in Outlook though.
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Not when i can get an office suite for free. Office is super expensive, bloated, software designed to lock you into the proprietary, patent encumbered, Microsoft file formats thereby locking in continuous super expensive upgrades ($$$ for Microsoft). No thanks. You might have money to burn, but i do not.

How is that different from an iPhone, or iTunes, or iLife... or Google... or anything else with a market majority?

Seriously, the MS bashng is a bit 20th century guys. Office is almost ubiquitous and people who say what you say, don't depend on it. This is a good thing, and $119 is great value for 4 powerful applications.

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Those prices seem very competitive.

Yeah, I'm going to have to buy that instead of iWork. It'll save me a lot of confusion and conversion problems. Sorry Apple.
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Yeah, I'm going to have to buy that instead of iWork. It'll save me a lot of confusion and conversion problems. Sorry Apple.

I'd wait for iWork '11...
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

Rumour has it that there is iLife 2010 and iWork 2010 in the pipes and September/October is a good guess on the release date. Rumour also has it that there is an iPad update in the works for the same time period.

Since iWork is already on the iPad (albeit in beta form), it would seem a no brainer that we are in for an killer update of iWork for the PC as well as mobile, sometimes in the next couple of months. I don't see how they can get away with the feeble productivity software situation on the iPad for very long, and I expect that exigency to drive faster revisions of iWork than we are used to.


I think you mean iLife and iWork 11.
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How is that different from an iPhone, or iTunes, or iLife... or Google... or anything else with a market majority?

Seriously, the MS bashng is a bit 20th century guys. Office is almost ubiquitous and people who say what you say, don't depend on it. This is a good thing, and $119 is great value for 4 powerful applications.

Don't you mean three applications? Messenger is the fourth, but can be freely downloaded from Microsoft's website.
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Starting at $119, Microsoft Office for Mac Home and Student 2011 includes Word, PowerPoint, Excel and Messenger.

The fact that Student/Home edition used to include Entourage and now doesn't include that or Outlook is a bit disappointing. Dropping one app=$30 savings. Adding the dropped app back in=$80.
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Why doesn't MS release a package with both Windows and Office (either Windows or Mac versions) directed at Mac owners?
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Microsoft Office supports OpenDocument Text, Spreadsheet and Presentation. I agree with you on the price though. I wouldn't pay that much if all I'm doing is writing some letter or creating a pamphlet at home.

Support for ODF in Office is terrible. http://www.odfalliance.org/blog/inde...t_falls_short/

No one expects support to really work though...if it did Microsoft would actually have to compete and they certainly do not want to that with their cash cow, Office
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How is that different from an iPhone, or iTunes, or iLife... or Google... or anything else with a market majority?

Not sure what this has to do with my point. Can you elaborate?


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Seriously, the MS bashng is a bit 20th century guys. Office is almost ubiquitous and people who say what you say, don't depend on it. This is a good thing, and $119 is great value for 4 powerful applications.

People who say what i say are clued into the perils of vendor lock-in. While you may enjoy paying massive sums of cash to Microsoft for Office, I do not. i would rather invest my money in my people rather than pad Microsoft's bottom line by being locked into their proprietary file formats and protocols. If i create it, it is my data, not Microsoft's.
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Microsoft announced Monday that Office for Mac 2011 will arrive at the end of October

Trick-or-treat? (Sorry it was just too good of a set-up to pass up.)
post #28 of 61
But will it work with Spaces??
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People who say what i say are clued into the perils of vendor lock-in. While you may enjoy paying massive sums of cash to Microsoft for Office, I do not. i would rather invest my money in my people rather than pad Microsoft's bottom line by being locked into their proprietary file formats and protocols. If i create it, it is my data, not Microsoft's.

If you're working in your own isolated world and only creating internal documents, that's fine. But for any of the companies (and their clients) who I've ever worked for, everyone expects documents in native Word or Excel formats with no file conversion compromises. Most now support the .docx and xlsx file formats, but sometimes, even that's a stretch.

And I even prefer Entourage to Apple's mail program and Outlook will be even better. Of course Keynote kills Powerpoint, but I can only use Keynote if I bring my Mac along to the presentations.
post #30 of 61
This is one of the only times I can think of where people are complaining about the price of something when a 20% price reduction was announced for a new version. And for those why say "who needs it?", I doubt MS would go to the effort and expense of rewriting this suite if the answer is "few, if anyone".
post #31 of 61
I did upgrade to the last version (Office 2008 for Mac) but find that I only use these apps to view old files. For new projects I use the Apple iWork apps. Im not planning to upgrade this time around. Too expensive for software that isnt used much.

The main reason I dont use Word or Excel is that theyve become much too complicated. I think they invented the term bloatware. There are so many features that I would never need or use.

I think Microsoft is in the software updates business. Thats how they generate revenue. But they want to charge such high prices for their upgrades that theyre forced to add many changes for justification.

These apps have evolved from version 1, a simple but fun sports car, to a family sedan, then an SUV, then a Greyhound Bus, and now something even bigger and more cumbersome. Ill pass this time around.
post #32 of 61
This update seems like a no-brainer for people who use Macs in businesses. I have to effectively support myself. As long as no one notices that I'm using a Mac, no one cares. That means I have to consume and create MS Office documents with high fidelity. The only high-fidelity option is Microsoft Office 2008.

The sticking points have been that Office 2008 still isn't 100% compatible and that it didn't support macros. In practice the missing macro support only really mattered with Excel files, and there it mattered quite a lot. The new version promises to close both gaps.

As for Outlook, I could care less. Mail.app works perfectly for me when it comes to mail and calendar Exchange integration. Those few tasks it doesn't support, like Out of Office and password changing, I can use the Outlook web interface for.
post #33 of 61
Listen . . . hear that?

That's the sound of me not caring. This article was nothing but PR speak.
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People who say what i say are clued into the perils of vendor lock-in. While you may enjoy paying massive sums of cash to Microsoft for Office, I do not. i would rather invest my money in my people rather than pad Microsoft's bottom line by being locked into their proprietary file formats and protocols. If i create it, it is my data, not Microsoft's.

Every decent product is a vendor lock in though. I like my iPhone and Mac, but there's no denying that they lock me into Apple.

Sounds like a reasonable price, if all you want is to do some typing there always Office online for free. Also has anyone tried the online version of office on an iPad? Does it work? I tried on my iPhone once and it loaded but the phone lacked the power to actually do anything at speed. Plus there was a huge memory issue.
post #35 of 61
It's the Pong of Office suites. iWorks 2011 will be released next month -- probably in a discount pack with iLife 2011. I expect to see a 64 bit version of iWorks on Amazon for half of what a 32 bit version of Office 2011 will cost.

Oh, and did I mention Microsoft's corny icons make me want to vomit?
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Originally Posted by MJ Web View Post

It's the Pong of Office suites. iWorks 2011 will be released next month -- probably in a discount pack with iLife 2011. I expect to see a 64 bit version of iWorks on Amazon for half of what a 32 bit version of Office 2011 will cost.

Oh, and did I mention Microsoft's corny icons make me want to vomit?

really they're not that bad- have you seen the office 2010 icons?!
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Yeah, I'm going to have to buy that instead of iWork. It'll save me a lot of confusion and conversion problems. Sorry Apple.

I tried very hard to go iWork, but sorry it just does not work well enough in a MS Office dominated world. I dont have to pay for any of it so it does not matter to me.

Office 2010 on Windows is simply hands down better than anything on the Mac, so Parallels is where I do my Office work these days.
post #38 of 61
When discussing Microsoft Office for Mac, both Microsoft and people on these boards hardly ever discuss functionality or feature parity compared to the Windows versions. Instead, any discussion of Office for Mac usually centers around user interface appearance.
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Originally Posted by MJ Web View Post

It's the Pong of Office suites. iWorks 2011 will be released next month -- probably in a discount pack with iLife 2011. I expect to see a 64 bit version of iWorks on Amazon for half of what a 32 bit version of Office 2011 will cost.

Oh, and did I mention Microsoft's corny icons make me want to vomit?

If computer icons make you want to vomit, then I think you have some serious issues.
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Originally Posted by Chris_CA View Post

Why doesn't MS release a package with both Windows and Office (either Windows or Mac versions) directed at Mac owners?

Because Office 2010 sold to Mac users wouldn't work without either Boot Camp or a virtual machine. And Microsoft wouldn't sell Office 2010 to Mac users without a valid Windows product key. And since they don't make Parallels or VMware Fusion, virtualization is out of the question.

What it breaks down to is that most Mac users shouldn't need Office 2010 and most Windows users shouldn't need Office 2011.
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