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post #41 of 273
8/4/10 at 1:17pm
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There is no evidence presented in this article to substantiate the idea that the buy one, get one free offers significantly impacted sales. If there is real evidence out there I will retract this. But all I have seen are vague hints that this is the reason Android and Verizon are doing so well - and that otherwise people would be flocking to the iPhone and AT&T. Barring actual evidence, I doubt that a customer going in for a feature phone is going to be swayed by a "free" phone that will cost him/her several thousand dollars over the life of the contract. I also doubt that most Verizon customers would be willing to switch to AT&T if not for this offer.

Really? You don't think buy one get one free smartphone offers influence customers? Then why do you think Verizon is willing to do it? Duh! To stem the, albeit relatively small, flow of customers to the inferior ATT network to get iPhones. ATT has shaved a tiny percent of Verizon's customers with the iphone. Its a fact. Verizon did a number of things to attempt to slow and/or stop that. Two being advertising the heck out of the Droid and giving them away! They obviously think this influences people or they wouldn't waste money doing it.
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post #42 of 273
8/4/10 at 1:19pm
Sometimes a simple congratulations is sufficient. Good job Android, RIM, and Apple.


All three are healthy and vibrant, what's there to argue about?
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post #43 of 273
8/4/10 at 1:24pm
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Originally Posted by Postulant View Post

Sometimes a simple congratulations is sufficient. Good job Android, RIM, and Apple.


All three are healthy and vibrant, what's there to argue about?

Congratulations indeed! We have seen the smartphone market surge forward with some great phones and operating systems in the last few years. I am still unsure why people are so anti-iPhone, anti-Android or whatever. It's a personal preference thing, right? They all have their ups and downs, and we are blessed to have so many great choices. I chose the iPhone, think its absolutely wonderful. But I am sure there are things Android does better, just as I know there are some things iOS does better.

Tone it down a notch people. I like the rational thought on here, not the 'clinging to your own OS's superiority at any cost' mentality.
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post #44 of 273
8/4/10 at 1:30pm
I wanted an iPhone the second I saw (years ago) it but I have a Sprint family account that I can't get out of as did most of the people I knew. Yeah, a lot of people would prefer an iPhone and I understand why--I'm a designer and understand how aesthetics promotes a well designed UI and iPhone still has a better designed UI. As apposed to BB who's UI are terrible. And Android's is non existent. My Evo has Sense which is just ugly.

But now with 2.2 on these faster phones, I have to say that my yearning for iPhone is over. Sprint has two more Android phones coming, US Cellular, Verizon and to make matters worse, AT&T!! Now that's a slap in the face. I will never understand why Apple plays hardball like this. They shot themselves in the foot by only staying loyal to AT&T. that used to irritate me soooo much because I wanted an iPhone.

So now, I only know one iPhone user (who's dumping it for a Droid X next week). My kids have Android phones because Sprint let us have them for $50 each and gave us the same unlimited user plan. Two other family members are getting Galaxy Ss and another is getting a DELL Streak... How can Apple compete with this?

People have to start taking open source development more seriously. I always have.
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post #45 of 273
8/4/10 at 1:32pm
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

Actually, ...

... "Droid" is a short-form slang term for an "Android" and was coined at least 70 years ago by what were then called "scientifiction" writers.

An "Android" was a humanoid shaped simulation which replicates the functions of the human body and was (originally) depicted as being of organic construction as opposed to a mechanical or elecro-mechanical one. However, within ten years or so the term was co-opted and became synonymous with the concept of a humanoid-shaped mechanical or robotic device.

In other words, Android, Robot, and Automaton all used to have separate distinct meanings, but we basically just call them all "robots" now. This is primarily because "robot" was the more popular term, (even though the original definition of "robot" required that the machine be intelligent), but also because no one could quite conceive of how to build an Android that wasn't basically an automaton anyway.

Thus "automatons" became "robots," and Androids became just another kind of robot. Interestingly, no one has yet figured out how to make Robots and Androids that conform to the original science fiction descriptions in the 30's 40's and 50's. In fact we aren't even close yet.

*yawn*
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post #46 of 273
8/4/10 at 1:34pm
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Originally Posted by semperlux View Post

I wanted an iPhone the second I saw (years ago) it but I have a Sprint family account that I can't get out of as did most of the people I knew. Yeah, a lot of people would prefer an iPhone and I understand why--I'm a designer and understand how aesthetics promotes a well designed UI and iPhone still has a better designed UI. As apposed to BB who's UI are terrible. And Android's is non existent. My Evo has Sense which is just ugly.

But now with 2.2 on these faster phones, I have to say that my yearning for iPhone is over. Sprint has two more Android phones coming, US Cellular, Verizon and to make matters worse, AT&T!! Now that's a slap in the face. I will never understand why Apple plays hardball like this. They shot themselves in the foot by only staying loyal to AT&T. that used to irritate me soooo much because I wanted an iPhone.

So now, I only know one iPhone user (who's dumping it for a Droid X next week). My kids have Android phones because Sprint let us have them for $50 each and gave us the same unlimited user plan. Two other family members are getting Galaxy Ss and another is getting a DELL Streak... How can Apple compete with this?

People have to start taking open source development more seriously. I always have.

That's interesting, because I don't know many people at all who don't have an iPhone. I think Apple will compete just fine with all the options out there. There's a lot of computer manufactures, not so many OS's, but Apple has managed to excel in that space. Sure, there are lots of good competitors, but Apple has a great phone and will continue to innovate and sell.
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post #47 of 273
8/4/10 at 1:35pm
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Originally Posted by Bcs123 View Post

Congratulations indeed! We have seen the smartphone market surge forward with some great phones and operating systems in the last few years. I am still unsure why people are so anti-iPhone, anti-Android or whatever. It's a personal preference thing, right? They all have their ups and downs, and we are blessed to have so many great choices. I chose the iPhone, think its absolutely wonderful. But I am sure there are things Android does better, just as I know there are some things iOS does better.

Tone it down a notch people. I like the rational thought on here, not the 'clinging to your own OS's superiority at any cost' mentality.

Agreed. You have to give credit to Apple for revolutionizing the smartphone world or we'd all be stuck with WinMo bricks and BBs. Apple was the distruptive technology when the iPhone first came out, but now it seems it's Android's turn. Who knows what future OS will come around and blow both out of the water. Just remember that Android was pretty much a Linux baby experiment when it first came out and look where it's at today.

Competition creates more innovation and development and most importantly, choice. You're happy with iOS, I'm happy with Android. The result is two happy people with devices that, at the end of the day, can communicate with each other. Where's the downside in that?
\Apple has always had competition. It's just been in its blind spot.
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\Apple has always had competition. It's just been in its blind spot.
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post #48 of 273
8/4/10 at 1:38pm
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

In fact, everyone who loves their Android phone should be thanking Apple for entering the market or theyd be stuck using something like this right now.

LOL

Blackberry's not that bad. I just don't like copycats.
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post #49 of 273
8/4/10 at 1:41pm
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

In fact, everyone who loves their Android phone should be thanking Apple for entering the market or theyd be stuck using something like this right now. LOL

I am also glad Apple entered the GUI PC business 25 years ago. But they got their asses handed to them by Microsoft in the 1990s. The question is: is Apple going to accept 5-10% of smart phone sales but with a huge chunk of the profits, or should they (and will they) adopt a different model to try to dominate the market? I don't think Steve Jobs is happy with they way things turned out in the PC business, even though Apple is far more profitable than Dell and HP. How that past history will affect the future of the iPhone will be interesting to watch.
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post #50 of 273
8/4/10 at 1:41pm
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Originally Posted by AsianBob View Post

Where's the downside in that?

I've got nothing...
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post #51 of 273
8/4/10 at 1:47pm
Apple's primary problem is they can't produce enough. They're selling everything they can produce. That distorts the numbers.

That said, I find comparisons of market shares to be fairly useless from just about any relevancy point of view, whether it's profits, market value, apps, user experience, etc.

I hope Android prospers as a platform. That will be a good thing for consumers. One writing on the wall is, however, increasingly clear: RIM had better reinvent itself yesterday, or they're headed south fast, a la Nokia.
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post #52 of 273
8/4/10 at 1:51pm
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Originally Posted by shadash View Post

I don't think Steve Jobs is happy with they way things turned out in the PC business, even though Apple is far more profitable than Dell and HP. .

iPhone
iPad
iTunes
Pixar
iMac
MacBooks
OSX
iOS

Sh*t, I bet Steve is pretty freaking happy right about now.
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post #53 of 273
8/4/10 at 1:54pm
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Originally Posted by semperlux View Post

I wanted an iPhone the second I saw (years ago) it but I have a Sprint family account that I can't get out of as did most of the people I knew. Yeah, a lot of people would prefer an iPhone and I understand why--I'm a designer and understand how aesthetics promotes a well designed UI and iPhone still has a better designed UI. As apposed to BB who's UI are terrible. And Android's is non existent. My Evo has Sense which is just ugly.

But now with 2.2 on these faster phones, I have to say that my yearning for iPhone is over. Sprint has two more Android phones coming, US Cellular, Verizon and to make matters worse, AT&T!! Now that's a slap in the face. I will never understand why Apple plays hardball like this. They shot themselves in the foot by only staying loyal to AT&T. that used to irritate me soooo much because I wanted an iPhone.

So now, I only know one iPhone user (who's dumping it for a Droid X next week). My kids have Android phones because Sprint let us have them for $50 each and gave us the same unlimited user plan. Two other family members are getting Galaxy Ss and another is getting a DELL Streak... How can Apple compete with this?

People have to start taking open source development more seriously. I always have.

Agreed, and my experience is very similar.

Yesterday morning I OTAd my DROID to Android Froyo/2.2 and asked the spouse to use it for the day instead of the usual iPhone4 just to see what the reaction would be.

All I heard this morning was, 'Wow, this phone is really fast'... 'can I customize my home screen to do what Launcher Pro Plus does?' ... "I noticed that you have a choice of MMS, music players, and other programs, is there anyway for me to change the ones on my iPhone?"... and on and on... though sadly the answer to all questions was, "No, Apple doesn't ' allow that kind of thing with their core apps".

Personally, That's what I (and many others) like most about Android-based smartphones... C H O I C E

Android is infinitely customizable in almost every way, designed to function/look the way most beneficial to the user, not just an appliance that forces the user to accept what has been given to them.
"Why iPhone"... Hmmm?
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post #54 of 273
8/4/10 at 2:01pm
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Originally Posted by wnurse View Post

As a consumer, why would that be important to me?. Actually, why would either question be important to me?. As a consumer, the only important question is if i want to buy your product. As a shareholder, which company makes the most profit is important. As a developer, which company has the most market share is most important.

+1 Insightful

And thus the developer migration continues....
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post #55 of 273
8/4/10 at 2:05pm
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Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post

Agreed, and my experience is very similar.

Yesterday morning I OTAd my DROID to Android Froyo/2.2 and asked the spouse to use it for the day instead of the usual iPhone4 just to see what the reaction would be.

All I heard this morning was, 'Wow, this phone is really fast'... 'can I customize my home screen to do what Launcher Pro Plus does?' ... "I noticed that you have a choice of MMS, music players, and other programs, is there anyway for me to change the ones on my iPhone?"... and on and on... though sadly the answer to all questions was, "No, Apple doesn't ' allow that kind of thing with their core apps".

Personally, That's what I (and many others) like most about Android-based smartphones... C H O I C E

Android is infinitely customizable in almost every way, designed to function/look the way most beneficial to the user, not just an appliance that forces the user to accept what has been given to them.

My point exactly. We need a choice of os. I have no need for all the 'freedom' android provides. I think the integration of hardware and software in ios is far preferable. But it's just that, preference. I don't think either one needs to move to be more like the other. Both have big fans that love what they do.
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post #56 of 273
8/4/10 at 2:06pm
With the "PC business." When his team released the Mac in 1984, he was not imagining less than 5% of worldwide sales or even 10% of US sales. The reason he is "freaking happy" now is that Apple has innovated way beyond the traditional PC space. But he is making up for some absolutely atrocious business decisions made in his absence.

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Originally Posted by Postulant View Post

iPhone
iPad
iTunes
Pixar
iMac
MacBooks
OSX
iOS

Sh*t, I bet Steve is pretty freaking happy right about now.
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post #57 of 273
8/4/10 at 2:08pm
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Originally Posted by RationalTroll View Post

+1 Insightful

And thus the developer migration continues....

What developer migration?
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post #58 of 273
8/4/10 at 2:09pm
A good thread peeps. Congrats to all for the reason demonstrated and lack of irrational rhetoric on all sides.

Let there be many more threads like this one.

Chopper.
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post #59 of 273
8/4/10 at 2:09pm
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Originally Posted by addicted44 View Post

This.

Apple has already screwed up by playing hardball with Verizon. If the iPhone had been on Verizon, then you wouldn't see Verizon pouring all this money and marketing into Droids.

The fact is that Verizon is pushing these phones extremely heavily. Not just through tons of marketing, but also with their BOGO schemes. More importantly, its giving enough sales to manufacturers like HTC and Motorola to justify their involvement in Android.

This is not the end of Apple. If the iPhone hits Verizon (or Sprint + TMobile, which will be a similar additional marketshare) within the next year, they can still choke off Android. However, Apple is really letting go of many opportunities here.

With all due respect, the world is bigger than the US. Apple sells many iPhones and iOS devices around the world. Their "oversea" revenues are starting to rival "domestic" revenues. Whether/when Apple expands to a second US carrier is insignificant compared to when/whether Apple expands to more carriers in China.

Look at Nokia - their US market penetration is tiny but they remain the largest handset company in the world and has the greatest sales volume in almost every category.

All to say, if you want Apple to rule, think China and India.
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post #60 of 273
8/4/10 at 2:11pm
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Originally Posted by shadash View Post

With the "PC business." When his team released the Mac in 1984, he was not imagining less than 5% of worldwide sales or even 10% of US sales. The reason he is "freaking happy" now is that Apple has innovated way beyond the traditional PC space. But he is making up for some absolutely atrocious business decisions made in his absence.

Don't know about that. Imagine if Apple did not falter, would they have the "starter company" chip on their shoulder right now? The near-death experience might have been the best thing that ever happened to Apple.
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post #61 of 273
8/4/10 at 2:13pm
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Originally Posted by Bcs123 View Post

What developer migration?

He agrees that market share is the most important. But isn't the install base of iOS over 100 million?

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
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post #62 of 273
8/4/10 at 2:13pm
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Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post

Great to hear as competition keeps the market moving forward.

As for those BoGo deals, it appears they're seriously working well for Verizon given that the phone might be 'free', but still requires both activation and a new contract -

Very Smart Move on Verizon's Part since it keeps the customer with the newest handsets at a bargain, and when it boils down to it, that's all the customer really cares about.

What competition do you speak of?
The Android OS is free and all the smart phone makers, except Apple, are saturating that crap up the a**.

We're talking about the SAME mobile OS on every Android phone. that ain't competition.
And since Android is free how the hell does it outsell a paid OS like IOS4(has a team of programmers)? Makes no sense! Yeah Android has a team of programmers but when the iphone hits the market you're paying a massive team(hardware and software). When you buy Droid you're only paying for the hardware. Google makes it money from mobile advertising. Click away homey.

And here is the down fall of having so many people pimp out the same smart phone with the same OS:you get market saturation like you've never seen before.
Go onto ebay and take a look at all that aftermarket Android sh**!
You trying to tell me that the after-market Android crap won't affect the sells of new stuff eventually? Yeah it will!
The Android is an out of control business model where the players have cut up each other's profit margin. Just like the idiots in the pc game. OMFG!
Apple has a sustainable business model and absolute control over their incredible media ecosystem.
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post #63 of 273
8/4/10 at 2:15pm
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Originally Posted by wnurse View Post

As a consumer, why would that be important to me?. Actually, why would either question be important to me?. As a consumer, the only important question is if i want to buy your product. As a shareholder, which company makes the most profit is important. As a developer, which company has the most market share is most important.

Hmmm, not sure about that. If market share was the most important factor, why doesn't RIM or Nokia have the largest collection of Apps?

I think Apple has shown that ecosystem design is important too, maybe more so. The iPad was a semi-new platform but app developers have tripped all over themselves to make apps for it. App World from RIM may never catch up.
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post #64 of 273
8/4/10 at 2:16pm
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Originally Posted by stelligent View Post

With all due respect, the world is bigger than the US. Apple sells many iPhones and iOS devices around the world. Their "oversea" revenues are starting to rival "domestic" revenues. Whether/when Apple expands to a second US carrier is insignificant compared to when/whether Apple expands to more carriers in China.

Look at Nokia - their US market penetration is tiny but they remain the largest handset company in the world and has the greatest sales volume in almost every category.

All to say, if you want Apple to rule, think China and India.

Size alone is worth diddley-squat.

I'd rather that Apple be small and very profitable like where it is now, than be Nokia, large and barely hanging on (just like many PC makers).
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post #65 of 273
8/4/10 at 2:17pm
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Originally Posted by Postulant View Post

He agrees that market share is the most important. But Isn't iOS market share over 100 million?

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

"Share" is a percentage number.
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post #66 of 273
8/4/10 at 2:17pm
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Originally Posted by LewysBlackmore View Post

For example, Android now has a larger marketshare, but that share is largely in the pre-2.x space which restricts developers from using some of the better features found in 2.0 and upwards. This will give an new developer pause, and cost an established developer additional development cycles in order to keep the whole marketshare on-board.


Good point. Android suffers from severe fragmentation.
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post #67 of 273
8/4/10 at 2:19pm
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

Size alone is worth diddley-squat.

I'd rather that Apple be small and very profitable like where it is now, than be Nokia, large and barely hanging on (just like many PC makers).

The iPod has demonstrated this is not an either/or thing. Apple is not destined to be Dell or Nokia if they dominate the smart phone space.
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post #68 of 273
8/4/10 at 2:20pm
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Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post

Android phones or actual DROIDs?

The difference being Android is a mobile OS (on many different networks/carriers) but DROID is a line of Verizon-exclusive smartphones.


This is a good example of how the Android market is confusing to regular people. They can't even decide what the things are called.
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post #69 of 273
8/4/10 at 2:20pm
I think it is not a single factor that has created the iOS success. As much as it is maligned, iTunes is another factor that cultivates iPhone loyalty. Syncing is easy. Purchasing is easy. App installation is easy. There seems to be no problem sharing apps and contents on multiple iOS devices after a single purchase (shocked that music companies have not jumped on this). And, when a user invests in hording all sort of iTunes contents, it's hard to lost them or relinquish the ease of access.

I miss the BB keyboard and BBM. But that loss is more than compensated by the iAdvantages mentioned.
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post #70 of 273
8/4/10 at 2:22pm
Looks like I spoke too soon.

Oh well, one lives in hope.
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post #71 of 273
8/4/10 at 2:22pm
Note to Developers:

Android users are Cheap Penny Pinching Freeloaders. They don't buy Apps.




There is no money in ANDROID.



Report: 98.9% Of Downloads On The Android Market Are Free

http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2010/03...989-free-apps/

Android Market a haven for cheapskates

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/new...en_cheapskates

Male Android Cheapskates To Dominate Mobile Market

http://phandroid.com/2010/02/27/male...mobile-market/





ANDROID SECURITY ALERT: Android wallpaper app that steals your data was downloaded by millions

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ANDROID SECURITY ALERT: Android wallpaper app that steals your data was downloaded by millions

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post #72 of 273
8/4/10 at 2:23pm
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Originally Posted by SendMe View Post

Its not the market share that is important to consumers. Which company makes the most profits?

Definitely! Consumers root for the product that overcharges them the most.

...wait
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post #73 of 273
8/4/10 at 2:23pm
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Originally Posted by LighteningKid View Post

Are there a lot of smaller wireless carriers in the US that are accounting for that 19% of smartphone unit sales not taken up by the big four? Or do these stats only account for sales made directly through the carriers, meaning the 19% could be coming from Best Buy et al.? If it's the former, it sounds like quite a large portion.

10 years ago, there were around 7,000 US carriers. While that number has shrunk considerably since, there are still hundreds to thousands of US carriers. We just very rarely hear about them.

Combined the top 4 carriers have about 80% of the market. So 19% of smartphones sold to other carriers is about right.
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post #74 of 273
8/4/10 at 2:29pm
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Originally Posted by Postulant View Post

iPhone
iPad
iTunes
Pixar
iMac
MacBooks
OSX
iOS

Sh*t, I bet Steve is pretty freaking happy right about now.

Bill Gates is happier, he doesn't work anymore. Apple doesn't do well sans Steve.
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post #75 of 273
8/4/10 at 2:36pm
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Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post

Agreed, and my experience is very similar.

Yesterday morning I OTAd my DROID to Android Froyo/2.2 and asked the spouse to use it for the day instead of the usual iPhone4 just to see what the reaction would be.

All I heard this morning was, 'Wow, this phone is really fast'... 'can I customize my home screen to do what Launcher Pro Plus does?' ... "I noticed that you have a choice of MMS, music players, and other programs, is there anyway for me to change the ones on my iPhone?"... and on and on... though sadly the answer to all questions was, "No, Apple doesn't ' allow that kind of thing with their core apps".

Personally, That's what I (and many others) like most about Android-based smartphones... C H O I C E

Android is infinitely customizable in almost every way, designed to function/look the way most beneficial to the user, not just an appliance that forces the user to accept what has been given to them.

Tell your wife you told a little lie, or kind of. There are plenty of music players, mms and many other programs for the iPhone. And up until this week, you could not download the froyo 2.2 for your phone on the same date that it was released for others. SO you have Froyo, but did you get the whole update? or did Verizon nix a couple of features, such as wifi sharing, so you have to (according to Verizon) pay for their service. When iOS is updated, it pertains to all of their current models (within last 2 years) and is not held back by the manufacturer or the carrier. Android is great, but sadly, the updates and features are so fragmented that developers are having a hard time making one app for all, and consumers are starting for feel "feature envy" from other phones using the "same" Android operating system. If I buy an iPhone today, I don't have to worry about a new model coming out in 3 months like the Android phones. Why would I want to buy a phone that will be obsolete in just 4-6 months?
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post #76 of 273
8/4/10 at 2:42pm
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Originally Posted by Bcs123 View Post

What developer migration?

Not really a developer "migration", per say... but I can go through a iPhone magazine, read about the cool apps and then look for them on the Android market. (shazam, and a few others that only iPhone users were privied to). They're not necessarily migrating, but they are easily porting iPhone apps. You might call that a migration of sorts.
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post #77 of 273
8/4/10 at 2:48pm
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Originally Posted by davesw View Post

Wait for the iPhone to come to Verizon, Sprint and T-mobile.


As reported by CNN this week, a Yankee Group study reveals that an astounding four out of five current Android users have no plans to buy another Android phone. And thats game over.


http://www.beatweek.com/news/6810-ve...droid-debacle/

Please read the corrected article, not the misinformation originally posted by venture beat, which they have since retracted.
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post #78 of 273
8/4/10 at 2:51pm
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Originally Posted by djmikeo View Post

Tell your wife you told a little lie, or kind of. There are plenty of music players, mms and many other programs for the iPhone. And up until this week, you could not download the froyo 2.2 for your phone on the same date that it was released for others. SO you have Froyo, but did you get the whole update? or did Verizon nix a couple of features, such as wifi sharing, so you have to (according to Verizon) pay for their service. When iOS is updated, it pertains to all of their current models (within last 2 years) and is not held back by the manufacturer or the carrier. Android is great, but sadly, the updates and features are so fragmented that developers are having a hard time making one app for all, and consumers are starting for feel "feature envy" from other phones using the "same" Android operating system. If I buy an iPhone today, I don't have to worry about a new model coming out in 3 months like the Android phones. Why would I want to buy a phone that will be obsolete in just 4-6 months?

Yes, it's true. Carriers are nixing some features and who knows why. Sprint wants $30 /mo for tethering. Or you can download an app from the Android market that allows you to do it for next to nothing. I find that in the Android environment, I can find a "legal" workaround for just about everything.
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post #79 of 273
8/4/10 at 2:51pm
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Originally Posted by iBill View Post

Apple is doomed.

Yes, shure. So who will be selling me my iP4 whe appl goes bottom line?
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post #80 of 273
8/4/10 at 2:55pm
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Originally Posted by Chopper View Post

Looks like I spoke too soon.

Oh well, one lives in hope.

And this was before davesw chimed in. Sigh...
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