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The European Commission has added support for iPhones among its employees while declining to support RIM's BlackBerry in a move that will affect 2,500 employees.

According to a report by CNET, the EC, which serves as the executive arm of the European Union, began a search for future smartphone platform in 2008. The EC currently uses devices built by HTC.

The group evaluated a variety of devices, including RIM's BlackBerry, before making the decision to continue to support HTC and add Apple's iPhone.

"Following this evaluation, the HTC and the iPhones emerged as the most suitable platforms for voice/mail-centric mobile devices. As a result, the Commission currently supports these two platforms," the group said in the report.

The EC's evaluation factored in "security, financial impact, integration into its IT infrastructure, resiliency, administrative overhead, and openness toward other applications and future technologies."
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Rip rim rip rim rip rim
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Given that they're still utilizing HTC devices, that affords the use of WinMo and Android as well.

Note: HTC is a hardware manufacturer, NOT a platform/OS.
"Why iPhone"... Hmmm?
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Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post

Given that they're still utilizing HTC devices, that affords the use of WinMo and Android as well.

Note: HTC is a hardware manufacturer, NOT a platform/OS.

Note: Any one whose been on AppleInsider for at least the past 3 years knows HTC is a phone manufacturer.
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Note: Any one whose been on AppleInsider for at least the past 3 years knows HTC is a phone manufacturer.

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The main reason this is happening is because of RIM's encrypted BES servers. It sucks that RIM is actually doing something better than everyone else and getting punished for it. I guess privacy is truly dead now.

I would have loved for the iPhone to have these features if RIM didn't patent it.
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It sucks that RIM is actually doing something better than everyone else and getting punished for it. I guess privacy is truly dead now.

Wait what? Which part are they doing better than everyone else?

Also, do you think having middleware promotes privacy? How do you think a BES actually works?
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Note: Any one whose been on AppleInsider for at least the past 3 years knows HTC is a phone manufacturer.

NOTE: Tell that to The European Commission who are quoted in this very article as stating, "Following this evaluation, the HTC and the iPhones emerged as the most suitable platforms for voice/mail-centric mobile devices."
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post #9 of 26
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Wait what? Which part are they doing better than everyone else?

Also, do you think having middleware promotes privacy? How do you think a BES actually works?

A major reason why corporations have not switched away from BB is because of their security on the device and through their servers. There is basically no point to stealing a RIM device because it can always be found unlike the iPhone which needs MobileMe and even then the SIM card can be taken out to avoid be tracked. The iPhone works better with Exchange but they still won't give it up. Middleware is not always a negative.

The iPhone does many more things better than BB but not when it comes to security. I don't like to see a company get punished for protecting privacy. I'd rather have everyone find a way to rise to RIM's level in this regard instead of governments and corporations switching because they can't track what you've been doing.
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There is basically no point to stealing a RIM device because it can always be found unlike the iPhone which needs MobileMe and even then the SIM card can be taken out to avoid be tracked.

So what if I steal a GSM blackberry and take out the SIM? I may be wrong, but I would think a missing SIM pretty much makes the provider unable to find a phone it can't talk to. If I'm wrong, go ahead and correct me.
post #11 of 26
In a somewhat related note, a person I know ripped Apple a new one over the iPhone 4's proximity sensor issue today and vowed to never use an iPhone again. Apple refunded his money and he went to the nearest Sprint store to get an EVO. He was really mad, but happy he finally had a working phone.

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So what if I steal a GSM blackberry and take out the SIM? I may be wrong, but I would think a missing SIM pretty much makes the provider unable to find a phone it can't talk to. If I'm wrong, go ahead and correct me.

From what I understand from a BB developer and a sister who has a Bold you can still be tracked though the only smartphone I owned that wasn't an iPhone was from Palm. I'm guessing that it has to do with BES and the unique ID of the phone.

Most thieves won't take out the SIM but it is an extra measure for the informed.
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Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post

In a somewhat related note, a person I know ripped Apple a new one over the iPhone 4's proximity sensor issue today and vowed to never use an iPhone again. Apple refunded his money and he went to the nearest Sprint store to get an EVO. He was really mad, but happy he finally had a working phone.

What a wise guy. Turns in his iPhone 4 because of an issue with the proximity sensor when that issue will be fixed in the next software update coming soon. *slow clapping*
Now he can have fun with his Sprint EVO trying to find that fabled 4G signal that's supposed to be out there ... somewhere.
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So the problem with the Blackberry is that it is TOO good at protecting its user's data? That's the real point here isn't it. Blackberry must dumb down its security so that governments can snoop on their citizens or be banned. In my opinion that's a feather in Blackberry's cap, not a fault.

It also says loads about the security of iOS and Android doesn't it. The iPhone and Android phones are okay, just peachy keen, for dictatorial, oppressive governments. I wonder when the Blackberry will be banned in the U.S. by Homeleand Security.
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What a wise guy. Turns in his iPhone 4 because of an issue with the proximity sensor when that issue will be fixed in the next software update coming soon. *slow clapping*
Now he can have fun with his Sprint EVO trying to find that fabled 4G signal that's supposed to be out there ... somewhere.

As I said, he was happy to have a working phone. Is it difficult to understand why a busy person cannot wait for their phone to be updated with what appears to be a simple fix? That's what happened.

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post #16 of 26
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So the problem with the Blackberry is that it is TOO good at protecting its user's data? That's the real point here isn't it. Blackberry must dumb down its security so that governments can snoop on their citizens or be banned. In my opinion that's a feather in Blackberry's cap, not a fault.

It also says loads about the security of iOS and Android doesn't it. The iPhone and Android phones are okay, just peachy keen, for dictatorial, oppressive governments. I wonder when the Blackberry will be banned in the U.S. by Homeleand Security.

There have been rumors from (from whatever link) that the US can now snoop in on BBs. Don't know how true it is but Skype hasn't been "cracked" yet.
post #17 of 26
Interesting. I bet Finland is pretty pissed that their symbian phones weren't used.
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post #18 of 26
In the interests of fairness and balance, DED actually got this right, and with minimal bias.

There, I said it.

Hey, maybe he's been listening?



Nah... gotta be a coincidence.
post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by str1f3 View Post

The main reason this is happening is because of RIM's encrypted BES servers. It sucks that RIM is actually doing something better than everyone else and getting punished for it. I guess privacy is truly dead now.

I would have loved for the iPhone to have these features if RIM didn't patent it.

I believe you miss a key element here. All the RIM servers are located in US or Canada, i.e. outside the EC territory. It's like the White House would allow its email servers to be hosted in Brussels or Bratislava...
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Originally Posted by str1f3 View Post

The main reason this is happening is because of RIM's encrypted BES servers. It sucks that RIM is actually doing something better than everyone else and getting punished for it. I guess privacy is truly dead now.

I would have loved for the iPhone to have these features if RIM didn't patent it.

Excuse me but you have no idea what you are talking about. It is because RIMM devices are has beens, old technology. They are way behind the times. And if you think that they are that secure, and not sharing emails with anyone, think again. They've already given the US govt the software key to see users emails. Get real and wake up.
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Originally Posted by str1f3 View Post

A major reason why corporations have not switched away from BB is because of their security on the device and through their servers. There is basically no point to stealing a RIM device because it can always be found unlike the iPhone which needs MobileMe and even then the SIM card can be taken out to avoid be tracked. The iPhone works better with Exchange but they still won't give it up. Middleware is not always a negative.

The iPhone does many more things better than BB but not when it comes to security. I don't like to see a company get punished for protecting privacy. I'd rather have everyone find a way to rise to RIM's level in this regard instead of governments and corporations switching because they can't track what you've been doing.

The paid shills are coming out of the woodwork! RIMM has already given their software key to some governments. So how does that make them more secure???? Their products suck, no matter how good their claimed security.
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Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post

As I said, he was happy to have a working phone. Is it difficult to understand why a busy person cannot wait for their phone to be updated with what appears to be a simple fix? That's what happened.

Honestly, do you really think this kind of trolling actually works?
post #23 of 26
Some of you are actually trying to tell us that no organizations are capable of listening in to BB calls? LOL

Wow... naive.
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Originally Posted by str1f3 View Post

A major reason why corporations have not switched away from BB is because of their security on the device and through their servers. There is basically no point to stealing a RIM device because it can always be found unlike the iPhone which needs MobileMe and even then the SIM card can be taken out to avoid be tracked. The iPhone works better with Exchange but they still won't give it up. Middleware is not always a negative.

The iPhone does many more things better than BB but not when it comes to security. I don't like to see a company get punished for protecting privacy. I'd rather have everyone find a way to rise to RIM's level in this regard instead of governments and corporations switching because they can't track what you've been doing.

Good idea. Apple's had a while to get to this level and I'd like to think it's on their to-do list but I'm not sure it is.
post #25 of 26
The EC picked Apple at the same time it's saying Apple is a monopoly.
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