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Originally Posted by ghostface147 View Post

The only difference is that he makes millions after doing it.

And that makes him better than the next guy? Please!
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Originally Posted by Chris_CA View Post

The vanishing point for shadows are directly beneath the light source (the sun in this case) so they would be behind the camera, not in front of it.
The shadows should appear to point outwards from the center of the picture, not towards the center.

I hardly think so. Distant shadows are further away, and therefore appear smaller. The shadows of a line of telephone poles recede towards infinity along with the poles that generate them.

Sorry, I just got it. The vanishing point for shadows of vertical lines, such as telephone poles, depends on their distance from the light source, which in this case increases. The shadow of the leg of the person on the right, if that is what it is, is therefore completely wrong and should point more to the right than other shadows. So at least we know that the red lines do not prove anything either way.

The shadows vary in distinctiveness depending on the closeness of their origin to the ground, so it is a very confusing image. Rather than trying to prove or disprove either way, I would suggest taking a look at recent photos of Steve Jobs and seeing if we have seen this image before in a different picture.
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Originally Posted by macinthe408 View Post

Obviously not written by an SF native.

Do not call it "San Fran" nor "Frisco." It's "The City." Or, if you're referring to it from outside the Bay Area, San Francisco works just fine.

Ha-ha. Being from Southern California, I like to call it "Frisco" once in awhile just to watch some pretentious Bay Area person go all red in the face.
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Even though the restaurant confirmed Jobs' appearance, some skeptical Internet commenters remained convinced that the photo of Jobs leaving the restaurant was doctored.

OMG.

Was this a photo of Steve Jobs with a hooker?
No.

Of him selling nuclear secrets to the Russians?
No.

Buying crack from a street dealer?
Not at all.

Why the Foxtrot would "Ryan" or anyone else even bother typing a single word claiming that a photo of a man simply walking out a restaurant where he was confirmed to have been was doctored?

Crikey, it must be the End Times....
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Originally Posted by mcarling View Post

He should buy the restaurant and fire the idiot.

Fired? For what - doing his job?

What do you think he should have done? Kicked someone out of their table so Jobs could have a seat? If he had done that, the idiot Apple bashers would be going crazy with "jobs thinks he's God" posts - and rightfully so.

The others got there first. Jobs didn't have a reservation. Jobs ate somewhere else. End of story.
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post #46 of 250
I was going to post something, but after reviewing the posts, everything that can be said has been.

Just let me say that I found the lesson in how to debunk a photoshopped image by shadow analysis quite enlightening. The wire vs. pole error showed the prankster was not too sophisticated.

Flour + Water should deliver a pizza to Steve as a goodwill gesture for being involved (even unwittingly) into and invasion of his privacy.
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>>And that makes him better than the next guy? Please!<<<

In my book it does.
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Fired? For what - doing his job?

What do you think he should have done? Kicked someone out of their table so Jobs could have a seat? If he had done that, the idiot Apple bashers would be going crazy with "jobs thinks he's God" posts - and rightfully so.

The others got there first. Jobs didn't have a reservation. Jobs ate somewhere else. End of story.

Did you read the entire story? It seems clear that this has been shown to be a fake image. It never happened. Or if it did, someone went to a lot of trouble to create a fake image to illustrate a true story. Doesn't seem logical.
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No Reservation?! Damn Steve, isn't there some kind of 'app for that' for the iPhone or iPad that you could have turned to and inquired about before being turned away? That's embarrassing!

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Why the Foxtrot would "Ryan" or anyone else even bother typing a single word claiming that a photo of a man simply walking out a restaurant where he was confirmed to have been was doctored

Did you even compare the shadow of Steve and others in the foreground to the pole and others in background? The "confirmation" is cast into doubt by the the cast shadows. Explain to me how cast shadows can be in two different angles. Two suns? Not in this solar system. The story may be true, but the photo is not. Would like independent confirmation to even believe the story at this point.
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I bet you anything that this event will inspire Steve to create a small, handheld device that has always-on connectivity and the ability to run applications that make it possible to instantly make reservations for your favorite pizza restaurants. Now, if we can just come up with a name for this revolutionary and magical device!
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FARRRRK ME... I didn't even realise this was already on Photobomb (the picture, not my caption)
http://thisisphotobomb.com/2010/08/0...other-clothes/

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Did you read the entire story? It seems clear that this has been shown to be a fake image. It never happened. Or if it did, someone went to a lot of trouble to create a fake image to illustrate a true story. Doesn't seem logical.

a random idiot on the internet claiming that an image is photoshopped is par for the course, now.
and does not make anything actually fake.
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Apple Chief Executive Steve Jobs, one of the richest people on the planet, ...

A story about an argument on a forum somewhere about a photo of Steve Jobs?

Seriously?
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Don't they feature OpenTable in their iPhone ads?

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No Reservation?! Damn Steve, isn't there some kind of 'app for that' for the iPhone or iPad that you could have turned to and inquired about before being turned away? That's embarrassing!
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Did you even compare the shadow of Steve and others in the foreground to the pole and others in background? The "confirmation" is cast into doubt by the the cast shadows. Explain to me how cast shadows can be in two different angles. Two suns? Not in this solar system. The story may be true, but the photo is not. Would like independent confirmation to even believe the story at this point.

you've never ever actually been outside, have you? walk outside, find a street, take a photo, examine it. reconsider your notions of what looks fake.
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post #57 of 250
None issue...he was reserving the table wrong.
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"when he and a companion"

Uh, that would be HIS WIFE! See the blond coming out of the restaurant in aviators? That's Ms. Jobs.

Luckily Jobs wasn't pissed off. He could buy that restaurant 1000 times over. Hell, he can buy the entire block and go have ice cream without breaking a sweat.
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Originally Posted by macinthe408 View Post

Obviously not written by an SF native.

Do not call it "San Fran" nor "Frisco." It's "The City." Or, if you're referring to it from outside the Bay Area, San Francisco works just fine.

Obviously, who the f* cares?
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dumb move by the restaurant's manager.
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I hardly think so. Distant shadows are further away, and therefore appear smaller.

And?
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The shadows of a line of telephone poles recede towards infinity along with the poles that generate them.

But they go from the vanishing point (the sun) outwards.
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Physics 101! If a light source is on my left my shadow will be on my right!! The shadow under the sun gives the relative position of the sun in the sky, if you remember the sundials used this principle to give the time. So how can the shadows be on the right for some subjects and on the left for the other subjects!? It is impossible, so it can only be a fake. If you dont believe it look outside and you will see that all the buildings have their shadow with same orientation!
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Explain to me how cast shadows can be in two different angles.

Dude, it's called parallax. Look it up some time.
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Tomorrow, Steve Jobs shows up, jumps the line and then offers a guy named 'Adam' an iPad for his seat and a slice of Pizza.

Following day Steve Jobs announces next Apple Store location 2401 Harrison Street, SF.

There are so many amusing ways to spin the BS.

I don't mind the occasional fluff story like this, but the headline is over the line click bait. The headline ought to be "Rumor, Steve Jobs turned away from crowded SF pizzeria, photo's authenticity questioned"
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Originally Posted by EauVive View Post

La rue du Bluff, c'est dans quel arrondissement ?

That's why I will NEVER live in the US: you have so few good restaurants, and, consequently, the good ones are always crowded!

it is in the 8em, its a backstreet of the Elysee Palace

"That's why I will NEVER live in the US: you have so few good restaurants, and, consequently, the good ones are always crowded! .."

I think here you are wrong ! there are lot of great restaurants in the US...if you have the money
for it. But Steve just earns $ 1,00 the year, thats why he was standing in line there, making
PR for pizza restaurant. voila, now you know all the trues !
(hmm..I think I should become a news writer to )

bon soir !
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That's why I will NEVER live in the US: you have so few good restaurants, and, consequently, the good ones are always crowded!

Yeah, that's what's stopping you from living in the US, right?
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

A story about an argument on a forum somewhere about a photo of Steve Jobs?

Seriously?

Pretty much explains the internet, doesn't it? The 24/7 non-news cycle. The beast must be fed.
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Originally Posted by Wurm5150 View Post

Steve should've used Siri/Open Table on his iPhone to make a reservation...

Well, you see, this whole event was staged to have a real-world experience to talk about in an upcoming keynote speech in which Apple acquired Siri technology will be showcased...
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Originally Posted by macinthe408 View Post

Obviously not written by an SF native.

Do not call it "San Fran" nor "Frisco." It's "The City." Or, if you're referring to it from outside the Bay Area, San Francisco works just fine.

What should we call you? Jackass?

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Originally Posted by 9secondko View Post

Jobs is married right?

Who was his "companion?"

Hopefully not that young girl next to him.


Not a chance. Steve has always been faithful to his spouses.
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interesting, but who cares?
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Originally Posted by donarb View Post

Dude, it's called parallax. Look it up some time.

I have a Masters in lighting design. I understand parallax. It only functions meaningfully at this scale for artificial light sources. The sun is so distant that parallax from its source cannot be perceived by the eye. The angle differentials in this photo are clearly discernible. Cannot be attributed to the sun, and it's clearly broad daylight so they are not attributable to artificial lighting. I am open to being shown wrong, but please explain how I am.

If you are referring to lens parallax, even that it consistent. The difference in shadow angles caused by lens parallax would diverge gradually and sequentially from the point of view of the camera. That isn't the case here. Again, I am happy to be corrected if you know more about lens parallax than I do. Photography is not my specialty, only lighting. But I think I am right here.
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post #74 of 250
The Apple employees need to have and intervention for Steve'o and send him to the "What Not to Wear" show to giving him some modern ideas on what a CEO should wear in public.
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Originally Posted by kpilkington View Post

Steve can have a bite of my pepperoni any time he wants!

Steve is a vegetarian ... which rules out pepperoni. Broccoli pizza ... yum.
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Steve is a vegetarian ... which rules out pepperoni. Broccoli pizza ... yum.

You're being too literal.
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the funniest part about the story is the image with all the lines trying to validate it's authenticity

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Steve is a vegetarian ... which rules out pepperoni. Broccoli pizza ... yum.

Broccoli Calzones are good too
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Dude, it's called parallax. Look it up some time.

Do you even know what is parallax and what is a shadow!? The shadow is casted by a light source and is defined by the relative position of the subject to the light source! The observation has no influence what so ever in how the shadow is oriented relative to the light source.
Parallax depends on the angle of observation of an object - it results is an apparent difference in position relative to foreground and/or background... but doesnt change the relative positions of objects at the same distance!
In short if a light source is on the left the shadow will be on the right whatever the angle on which you view
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the funniest part about the story is the image with all the lines trying to validate it's authenticity

I think the lines are there to show its INauthenticity are they not?
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I think the lines are there to show its INauthenticity are they not?

No.
"another user, "fred," did an illustration with the photo to prove that the shadows in the photo were, in fact, accurate."
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