[quote]Originally posted by moki:
We're important enough to have two of our products bundled on every single Macintosh sold.
However, I've never said I had access to any hardware seeds -- if I did, I would not be able to post about what I know, because I'd be under NDA for that hardware.
You can take seriously whatever you choose, but you're being incredibly short-sighted to dismiss what anyone with any shred of inside information knows: the G5 is barely even on the radar screen.
Everyone who has insulted or disparaged me for what I've been saying, I think you really should re-think ad-hominem attacks. Don't attack someone simply because you don't like what they are saying.
I too would love to have a G5 on my desktop tomorrow -- however, I've been in the industry for a decade and a half, and I have numerous friends and contacts throughout Apple and related companies. They've been insisting that the next round of machines will be Apollo G4's, and that there were two separate platforms (SDRAM and DDR) in semi-parallel development. If the delay in the new Pro line release wasn't simply a marketing decision, it is possible that they are skipping the SDRAM speedbump in favor of the DDR platform.
The G5 has consistently been downplayed as not coming until very late this year or early next by everyone I know. Sure, they all could be wrong, or all might not know what the true deal is -- but somehow I doubt it.
If you want to attach more credibility to any random person with an Internet connection, then by all means, go for it. I attach more credibility to my friends and colleagues in the industry.
I suppose we'll see who is right soon enough, but in the meantime, lay off attacking the messenger simply because you don't like the message.
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Sorry if I offended, Moki, it wasn't my intention. I did mean "large and
important" -- prototype hardware is typically hard to come by and smaller software developers usually don't see it. You admit not seeing prototype hardware, so obviously I wasn't far off of the mark.
Congrats on the bundling deal.
As for the timing of the G5, you could well be right. Or you could be wrong. It has been in the works for a few years now, and the earliest mentions of it were targetting sometime in 2000. Moto has focussed on embedded processors, but that doesn't mean Apple hasn't been driving the desktop processor design... which might allow them to keep a tighter lid on progress. If no new software features are expected then testing might be restricted in order to keep it quiet. The 64-bit question is a big one, but if the machines are fully 32-bit compatible then there really shouldn't be a reason to not ship them before any 64-bit software is available (including the OS). There's a whole laundry list of reasoning for the G5. All wild speculation of course.
Dorsal's postings not withstanding (and as pointed out by others, he doesn't really claim anything concrete) I'd be surprised to see a G5 before WWDC or MWNY. That doesn't mean I'm not hoping. Whatever this forum may have been a year ago, it is now a forum of wild and entertaining speculation -- I sincerely hope that nobody takes it seriously, or (heaven forbid) makes real decisions based on it. Apple seems to have shut down the rumour machine effectively enough that this is all that is left to us.
What we really need is somebody to publicly break NDA in a big way, so big that Apple sues them and it all gets splashed across the news. Anything short of that is likely to get shot down by either the optimists or the pessimists.