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post #41 of 105
8/17/10 at 11:54am
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Originally Posted by OC4Theo View Post

I saw these guys in concert about a month ago in Costa Mesa at the Orange County Fair (Pacific Amphitheater). They suck at singing and their performance was not up to par.

No you didn't. If you would have, your comments would likely have been quite different.

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post #42 of 105
8/17/10 at 11:55am
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Pink Floyd albums are journeys that should never be broken apart.

Makes sense for Waters discs.
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post #43 of 105
8/17/10 at 12:00pm
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Idiots!

Yea. How dare they attempt to sell their music in a format of their own choosing. Stupid musicians.
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post #44 of 105
8/17/10 at 12:01pm
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I am so glad I downloaded all their albums few months ago.

Downloaded? Or purchased and downloaded?
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post #45 of 105
8/17/10 at 12:03pm
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Originally Posted by mlarkin View Post

Piss on Pink Floyd and the Beatles. They keep the piracy business booming, and especially the Beatles have lost tens of millions in dollars for their arrogant stupidity.

Too late baby. Sell your stuff after you, Yoko, and your dumbass advisors are gone.

Let me get this straight. Pink Floyd and the Beatles are responsible for crime? They don't make their music available through legal means? Piss on music thieves.
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post #46 of 105
8/17/10 at 12:03pm
<<Originally Posted by OC4Theo
I saw these guys in concert about a month ago in Costa Mesa at the Orange County Fair (Pacific Amphitheater). They suck at singing and their performance was not up to par.>>

Yeah, they're playing all the State Fairs this summer.
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post #47 of 105
8/17/10 at 12:12pm
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Originally Posted by OC4Theo View Post

I saw these guys in concert about a month ago in Costa Mesa at the Orange County Fair (Pacific Amphitheater).

Not really.
-> The Pink Floyd Experience at Pacific Amphitheatre
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Go to Limewire, if you need Pink Floyd or Beatles songs. It is free!

This explains quite a lot, loser...
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post #48 of 105
8/17/10 at 12:15pm
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Originally Posted by OC4Theo View Post

I saw these guys in concert about a month ago in Costa Mesa at the Orange County Fair (Pacific Amphitheater). They suck at singing and their performance was not up to par!

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You saw a Pink Floyd cover band and not Pink Floyd

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That would be quite the miracle.

Just when I thought the thread couldn't get any funnier....
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post #49 of 105
8/17/10 at 12:19pm
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Originally Posted by kenaustus View Post

So Pink Floyd is basically of the major music market in the US - downloads.

Give him a few months of smaller royalty checks and he may be back.

But then the Beetles have been willing to see millions lost from their refusal be on iTunes and other stores. Must be nice to be so rick you can turn away from millions like that.

When someone uses the words "artistic integrity" that can be roughly translated, "I'm full of myself and take myself way to seriously." They don't want to sell digital music cause they can't handle the sales records pointing out how much some of their music sucks.

Oh well, they'll never make it into my iTunes collection either way so big deal.
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post #50 of 105
8/17/10 at 12:26pm
This is more about PF wresting control of away from EMI than anything else.

FWIW, the Floyd most certainly did issue singles. I personally own "Money", "Time"/"Us and Them"*, "Wish You Were Here", and "Run Like Hell". Though at present I don't have a functional turntable to play them on.

* The best double-A side single since "Hey Jude"/"Revolution".

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So Pink Floyd is basically of the major music market in the US - downloads.

Give him a few months of smaller royalty checks and he may be back.that.

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post #51 of 105
8/17/10 at 12:28pm
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Yeah, they're playing all the State Fairs this summer.

Seems that 'Wish You Were Here' is on the charts in Japan...
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post #52 of 105
8/17/10 at 12:45pm
PinkFloyed the Movie was also removed from the iTunes Store on Apple TV!

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post #53 of 105
8/17/10 at 12:47pm
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I saw these guys in concert about a month ago in Costa Mesa at the Orange County Fair (Pacific Amphitheater). They suck at singing and their performance was not up to par.

Really? Too bad. I saw a live David Gilmore concert recently on Palladia TV and I thought he still sounded great. Maybe they were not as well rehearsed as Gilmore was with his new band members.

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post #54 of 105
8/17/10 at 12:53pm
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Really? Too bad. I saw a live David Gilmore concert recently on Palladia TV and I thought he still sounded great. Maybe they were not as well rehearsed as Gilmore was with his new band members.

Read the rest of the thread. Pink Floyd never played the Orange County Fair a month ago a Pink Floyd tribute band did, though.
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post #55 of 105
8/17/10 at 12:56pm
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

Another stupid, insulting "USA only" story that's not marked as such because no one bothered to check on the other countries?

Pink Floyd is still in *my* iTunes store, all the albums.

Another non-USA person with a chip on their shoulder.
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post #56 of 105
8/17/10 at 1:02pm
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Originally Posted by kenaustus View Post

So Pink Floyd is basically of the major music market in the US - downloads.

Give him a few months of smaller royalty checks and he may be back.

But then the Beetles have been willing to see millions lost from their refusal be on iTunes and other stores. Must be nice to be so rick you can turn away from millions like that.

Him? Who are you referring to? There's no one person named Pink Floyd. It's the name of the band. You obviously aren't a fan...

I salute them. I'm sure a lot of big name bands like them and The Beatles don't like the paltry royalties they get from digital sales in relationship to what the labels get. Those bands continue to sell without any marketing, too. RIAA and the labels have gone berserk in a money grab and they didn't create anything at all.

I agree. You should never slice up a Pink Floyd album. They should only be listened to from beginning to end. It's the only way to truly appreciate their genius.
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post #57 of 105
8/17/10 at 1:04pm
Couldn't care less. Buy them and rip them.
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post #58 of 105
8/17/10 at 1:05pm
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When someone uses the words "artistic integrity" that can be roughly translated, "I'm full of myself and take myself way to seriously." They don't want to sell digital music cause they can't handle the sales records pointing out how much some of their music sucks.

Oh well, they'll never make it into my iTunes collection either way so big deal.

You can't possibly be referring to Pink Floyd when talking about how much of their music sucks. Are you F'ing serious? Please tell me you're not serious...
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post #59 of 105
8/17/10 at 1:06pm
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Maybe they were not as well rehearsed as Gilmore was with his new band members.

I think he saw the Syd Barrett reunion tour.
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post #60 of 105
8/17/10 at 1:07pm
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Do you suppose they turned down the royalty checks when singles were played on the radio?

In the United States, there is no royalty payment to performers based upon analog radio play. There is an indirect payment to the writer of the song, through the publisher, by radio station payments to ASCAP, BMI and SESAC, the performing rights organizations.

There are payments to performers via the Sound Exchange for streaming radio, but that's another matter.

The U.S. is one of the few countries that doesn't pay performers for radio play. There are some movements to change that, but since radio lobbies still have more power than performer's lobbies, I don't think we'll see a change anytime soon.
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post #61 of 105
8/17/10 at 1:10pm
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Pink Floyd never really released singles though

I don't believe that is entirely true. OK, I only bought albums but I thought "Money" was released as a single in order to promote the popularity of "Dark Side of the Moon".
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post #62 of 105
8/17/10 at 1:16pm
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Pink Floyd albums are journeys that should never be broken apart.

My thoughts exactly.
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post #63 of 105
8/17/10 at 1:16pm
Pink Floyd should pull ther stuff off the radio if they don't want their albums split up. They are getting royalty money for each play.
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post #64 of 105
8/17/10 at 1:33pm
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... after 200 or 300 years does "Mozart's Record Company" get any royalties ?



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Humm, wonder how Pink Floyd will be doing in 200 or 300 years ?

(any of you ever hear of Billy Murray, Ben Selvin, Peerless Quartet, et al - sold a LOT of 78's)



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Yea, good ol' Irving Berlin (and others) who invented ASCAP to make sure THEY wouldn't end up same as Stephen Foster - who's "Swanee River" *sold* more than any song ever in USA (was #1 - with a Bullet - for 50 years), but he only got about $100.00 for his part.

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post #65 of 105
8/17/10 at 1:52pm
I think this is great for Pink Floyd. Their vision of the album is that it is to be taken as a whole. I applaud them in suing their record company to preserve that.

Personally, I'd like to see that on occasion. Take Dark Side of the Moon, if I were them I'd get it listed as album only, BUT I'd have "Money" and possibly "Breathe" as single track downloads. Probably the same with The Wall, purchase as a whole, but offer "Another Brick in the Wall Part2", "Comfortably Numb" and whatever songs the radio plays as single track downloads.

If the market dislikes this change, sales of the album will reflect that. Not every album needs this of course, and pop stars like 50 cent would hurt themselves as his audience is a singles driven one.

Kudos to PF!
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post #66 of 105
8/17/10 at 1:57pm
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

Another stupid, insulting "USA only" story that's not marked as such because no one bothered to check on the other countries?

Pink Floyd is still in *my* iTunes store, all the albums.

Then there's no news there.
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post #67 of 105
8/17/10 at 2:03pm
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So Pink Floyd is basically of the major music market in the US - downloads.

Give him a few months of smaller royalty checks and he may be back.

But then the Beetles have been willing to see millions lost from their refusal be on iTunes and other stores. Must be nice to be so rick you can turn away from millions like that.

Who is "him"? And who are the Beetles?

You obviously need a lesson in music and the music industry. The record company (EMI) controls what is done with the music they own. Because the artists (in this case the Beatles and Pink Floyd) won't agree to being paid nothing for the rights to their music, so EMI is holding the music back.

Too bad EMI has turned out this way. I used to respect them, because they were the first major record company (and the only one for a long time) that would sell improved sound quality downloads on iTunes. All that good will has worn off - now they're just as idiotic as the other major record companies.
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post #68 of 105
8/17/10 at 2:03pm
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Just for the record. I was was rised on Pink Floyd music stating from '70 back in Europe where I lived. Pink Floyd music is not about single songs, but about composition. I know that some songs sound better and one may skip to favorite parts, but someone has to be arrogant ignorant to take one song completely out of context/composition and buy it. Artist has right to prevent that. Art is not wholesale of cheap "Made in...." product. Otherwise it would not be art despite what some call art.


Having said that I own most of Pink Floyd albums and I have converted them to MP3 to listen on my iPods.

Well considering their song "Money" has been played on radio for 40+ years as a single, not to mention all their other material, the album ship for Pink Floyd sailed long ago.

But this isn't about artistic integrity, its about the money. If Pink Floyd owns their own catalog now, iTunes has the best return out of any record contract ever, they'd keep 70%. Not to mention they could select 'Album Only' to list their music. The only reason they are stalling is because they want special treatment or some sort of cash 'signing fee' from Apple. Ditto with The Beatles and all the other hold outs.

Artistically speaking, fans shouldn't have to suffer through the tedium of the Dark Side Of The Moon's filler tracks (ie. the cheesy, annoying cater-walling lady song with horrible saxophone solo), just to hear the higher effort stuff. Sorry to hear about your child abuse.
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post #69 of 105
8/17/10 at 2:08pm
Pink Floyd is still in the Australian store, it's a wonder those "Relics" still have a "Pulse".

I wonder what would happen if I sent one as a gift via iTunes?

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8/17/10 at 2:09pm
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post #71 of 105
8/17/10 at 2:09pm
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When someone uses the words "artistic integrity" that can be roughly translated, "I'm full of myself and take myself way to seriously." They don't want to sell digital music cause they can't handle the sales records pointing out how much some of their music sucks.

Oh well, they'll never make it into my iTunes collection either way so big deal.

Wow, I care so much about what's in your iTunes collection. Who are you again?
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post #72 of 105
8/17/10 at 2:12pm
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Pink Floyd never really released singles though

the people who understand and appreciate the album as a whole will buy it. the ones who don't and never will might like a song or 2. if pink floyd doesn't want to sell to those pick and choosers then that is their business as artists. but the reality of it is that they have made enough money to take the high road and claim whatever in the name of 'art'. if they were a new band and broke then that artys fartsy ideal would be second to generating money.
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post #73 of 105
8/17/10 at 2:20pm
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Pink Floyd should pull ther stuff off the radio if they don't want their albums split up. They are getting royalty money for each play.

In the US, only the songwriters get royalties for airplay, not the performing musicians. Also, given the (sorry) state of music royalties in the US, it's basically impossible for a published songwriter or performing artist to have their stuff pulled off the radio. And to not publish exposes the artist to what amounts to rampant institutional piracy (i.e. they get paid nothing) without recourse since ASCAP and BMI pretty much have those markets locked up.

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post #74 of 105
8/17/10 at 2:23pm
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This is more about PF wresting control of away from EMI than anything else.

You're right of course.. but having fun with some of the posters is just too tempting to avoid.

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I personally own "Money", "Time"/"Us and Them", "Wish You Were Here", and "Run Like Hell". Though at present I don't have a functional turntable to play them on. :

Ah yes... and just now I'm remembering a simpler time in my life when I would rub my finger over my turntable needle to remove the never ending ball of dust that would materialize almost constantly ... Knowing full well that it was _B_A_D_ and totally unacceptable behavior... Yet somehow, it always felt so good doing it... Kinda like cracking your knuckles.

Actually it would drive my friend totally crazy whenever he caught me doing it. "Like fingers on a chalkboard!" he'd say... Which simply reinforced my desire to do it.
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post #75 of 105
8/17/10 at 3:20pm
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Numerous albums from legendary rock band Pink Floyd have disappeared from Apple's iTunes store, along with other digital storefronts, following the expiration of a contract between the band and its record label..



Those guys are crazy, aren't they? They must be if they think anyone will care about them if they aren't available at the iTunes store.

Buh bye, Lunatics!
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post #76 of 105
8/17/10 at 3:38pm
Unless you're a druggie, personally responsible for countless deaths in Mexico, I doubt you care.
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post #77 of 105
8/17/10 at 3:44pm
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PinkFloyed the Movie was also removed from the iTunes Store on Apple TV!

It has to be one of the most self-conscious, sophomoric, chuckle-inducing movies of all time. Almost ruined the music for me. (Up there with 'Tommy the Movie').
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post #78 of 105
8/17/10 at 3:45pm
Last I heard, Apple doesn't have any presence on the moon, so I don't even know why this blog exists.

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post #79 of 105
8/17/10 at 3:46pm
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Unless you're a druggie, personally responsible for countless deaths in Mexico, I doubt you care.

Wow. That's random.
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post #80 of 105
8/17/10 at 3:48pm
On iTunes or not, Pink Floyd rules.
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