LG exec proclaims upcoming LG tablet "better than the iPad" - Page 5

I won't go that far but i will say an iPhone serves me better than many (any?) portable device that I've used. Being always on and always in my pocket makes for great utility. Admittedly it takes awhile to adjust but if you let your iPhone be a tool it will be very beneficial to own.

People laugh when i say one of the great things about iPhone is the ability to carry documents and notes around with with you at all times. If your work involves knowledge that is a great asset to have.

I also think that this is why people recoil at the idea of a smaller 5-7 inch iPad. They just have trouble grasping how other people work. More so they can't grasp the idea that size is important especially when you are carrying a lot of other stuff around. Electronics may have gotten smaller but when you add everything up it can be a lot of mass.

It certainly can be a leisure device but it is a sign of poor imagination if one can't see the benefit for other activity.

The list could go on for ages.

Well I'd say if you question the device you aren't being open minded. Without even trying i see new ways to use iPad almost every day.

As to iPhone 4 i also gaze at it with lust. Mainly because a lot of software kinda sucks on iPhone 3G already. Even at that iPhone 3G has to be more capable than half the computers I've ever owned. In many ways I'm amayzed that i can carry as much computing power as i can in my pocket.

In any event the thing with iPad is that it is effectively at the Mac Plus level of development. The potential for the device is simply huge.


Dave

I love these bold statements, like one poster said, it's always an iKiller or to beat Apple. Funny how Apple never have to make these claims when releasing new products, they just let them speak for themselves. I have LG tv's at home and they are great, but trust me, if Apple started making TV's , the LG's would be in the bin ha ha.

It depends upon where the technology is implemented. Plus hybrid systems would likely exist first.

There are other technologies out there in limited production. The problem is nothing has the potential of the phase change technologies.

The question then becomes how quickly can phase change reach or surpass flash density. Hopefully at a lower cost.


Dave

If they're out there, then what are they? Phase change is the only one that I found that was actually sampling.

You are showing your age. That was a brand way back when home audio was the coolest CE.

Apple's copy and paste are the industry standard. They are drop-dead simple. We waited literally years for Apple to finally figure it all out, but man-o-man, was it worth it!

Anybody who cannot figure out how to copy and paste with an iPhone deserves to use a Blackberry for the rest of their lives. Simple.

Why do people always go on and on about what Steve's stuff WON'T do?

What format was this bill in, anyways? Apple products only support the good ones.

Just carry around a 13 inch MBP and all your problems are solved. It is the lightest best laptop on the market. And it is totally durable to.

Perhaps for the same reason you go on and on about what people DIDN'T say.

Why isn't SendMe banned yet? His intention to troll is clear.

Lol... "arrested and charged with possession of BS with intent to troll"

If you read the whole post, I was attempting to duplicate something I had done on the Mac, on the iPad.

I couldn't even open the document on the iPad.

If you want to see the document format, on a Mac:

-- logon to your AT&T wireless account using Safari
-- select view full bill in the upper left
-- a popup window opens that displays the entire bill in a table

I tried the same thing on both Mac and iPad using the bill summary. It displays a much smaller table.

It worked fine on the Mac.

On the iPad I was able to open the smaller table in Safari and copy it.

However, I was unable to paste it into iPad numbers and preserve the original row/column structure-- everything went into a single table cell.

Later, I'll try and determine if this a problem with Mobile Safari, Numbers, Copy/Paste... and submit a bug/feature request as necessary.

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The iPad has a known caching bug in Safari, what happens when you do the same on the iPhone? Which iPhone are you using?

I did some reading, and phase change technology does, indeed, seem to offer a lot of promise. Though, it appears to require high temperature pulses to change the bits.

In one citation (emphasis mine):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase-change_memory


That's 185ºF-- and I am not quite ready for another move, yet!

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Here's the best discussion of MRAM that I could find:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magneto..._access_memory

Here is the final summary section (emphasis mine):


The potential is that MRAM can replace all RAM and offer better results.

The [apparent] problem is that there are no state-of-the-art fabs open and no company has the "little boxes" to forego profit to risk a fab on a new technology!

BTW, was the IBM microwave technology called "Millipede"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Millipede

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LG getting into the tablet market is about as uninteresting as the prospect of GE doing it too. Perhaps they need to make up for slowing sales of dishwashing machines or industrial motors. Or TVs. Or microwave ovens.

Tablets are the new gold rush for hardware companies. At least LG didn't take the brain-dead rush-it-through-product-development approach of just lopping off the keyboard of a laptop and stuffing it all behind a touchscreen, the choice that Microsoft's Windows partners have taken. An upsized Android phone running low-powered ARM chipsets at least makes more sense for a tablet. If you boot a tablet and it has to load the OS from the C: drive, then you've already failed.

Trying it now on the iP4! 512 MB RAM vs 256 MB on the iPad.

Read the whole thing-- took about a minute for a 7,000 x 11 table.

Don't seem to be able to activate copy/paste-- not surprising if low on RAM and no swapping!

Reset the iP4, and trying again:

No BG tasks, No cached Safari pages.

Took 2 min 15 sec.

Still cannot activate copy/paste.

Update: I can do some copy selection, but it is slow and painful. I can't bring up "Select All" and must drag the border of the selected area. If I go too far or too fast (really quite slow) it deselects or snaps back to the prior selection-- totally unusable.

Took so long that my AT&T session timed out!


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Everspin is sampling a 16Mb MRAM with production quantities in July 2010.

http://www.everspin.com/PDF/press/20..._16mb_mram.pdf

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Welcome to my ignore list.

Promises, promises.

Exactly. He has no choice as he watches the LG tablet crash and burn.

LG is under a lot of pressure to right their ship. Their handset business has really gone down over the past several quarters. LG's arch rival is Samsung, not Apple. Here's an interesting article about how Android simply pursues the the bottom of the barrel in the smartphone market ever since the iPhone was launched in 2007. Literally, Apple came out of nowhere to become the most profitable cellphone (not just the smartphone) maker in the world. The most telling statistic: Apple's share of the global cellphone market is 3% but Apple makes 48% of the profit (EBIT).

http://www.asymco.com/2010/08/17/and...iggest-losers/

No it's not I can assure you of that.

I carry around tools and parts and holding a laptop in your arms because there isn't a desk around is a complete pain to try and pull off because a laptop doesn't balance well. The iPad is perfectly balanced.

Well, it is Android. They will be relying on Android market to give the code they need. Will they succeed is another question, but as other Android tablets will start emerging, I would expect there will be Documents To Go and other productivity software available.

Well, best is matter of taste (and needs), but lightest... hardly:

http://laptops.toshiba.com/laptops/portege/R700

13" fully featured lappy that starts at 1.1kg. Short of integrated graphics, pretty nice specs.

I had it in my hands on Toshiba's 25 anniversary event, very impressive. Lighter than number of 10" netbooks.

That is really silly thing to say here. Apple didn't stick to what they did, now, have they? They pretty much reinvented themselves by starting doing what they didn't do before.

I'm not going to say that everyone can repeat same success, but likewise I'm not going to say no-one else can either. I am hoping they will be successful at least enough to motivate others to try - I'd like to see as much competition in tablet market as I ca get, and equally awesome products coming out of that competition.

Yes, you are quite correct. I had forgotten all about this "capability" as it was such a pain. Perhaps you should try it after importing 4 to 7 mb pics into the Photo app. Sending them unsized is a bit unsociable and won't get through on most email services anyway. So, resize. That's another app. Then back to the Photo app. Oops, there are no file names. So, which are the resized 5 of the now 100's of pics dumped into Saved Photos?

Give me my tin hat any day. I'd rather enjoy life than screw around with an app that may be acceptable to you but is not to me. Nor, do I suspect to most who enjoy photography. At present, the gap between the iPad and a laptop, in Photos and other areas, is too large to render the iPad usable in a standalone environment. That's the point many have made. Obviously there are many who's needs are sufficiently confined that it works for them. However, for those of us who are accustomed to using the capability we purchased in a laptop, the iPad simply does not cut it for certain tasks.

As I also stated, I used the iPad as my primary device. But when I need to get something done, I guess I reach for my tin hat.

Actually, even if you do want to use iPad for work it can do that too, just invest in an Apple BT keyboard and a case with a good stand. When iOS4 for iPad is released it is really going to shine, and my guess would be any advantage LG's tablet could have over the iPad will be wiped out with the 2nd gen iPad.

Just reading this article I'm getting higher off the vapour(ware) than even brucep is normally

Anyone else see a conflict of interest here?

Could LG be purposefully delaying iPad display production to lessen its market share in preparation for its own tablet computer's launch?

Brilliant!

You probably already know this but it evokes what Steve Jobs said about the subject:


Apple is at least a decade ahead of anyone else in this market. Conversely, in 1981 my opinion was that IBM's original PC set computing progress behind by at least that much. Windows in all its incarnations has only prolonged its inevitable demise.

Someone will eventually come up with a viable competitive product, but I don't believe it will be a behemoth like LG or Microsoft or even Google, and by that time who knows what Apple will have developed.

No, that's just how the industry works. Actually, things like this are common in various industries in which the OEM supplier also develops and markets their own branded products. The LG Display business unit is under a mandate to be as efficient and profitable as possible. If they don't deliver, there are other sources (like LG's archenemy Samsung) that Apple could go to in the future. LG Display doesn't really care whether they sell the displays to Apple or LG Electronics or anyone else. They just want to produce and sell, sell, sell.

That being said, an OEM buyer like Apple (or HP, Dell, Acer, Motorola, Sony, etc.) needs to spread out their supply sources and have the OEM manufacturers compete with each other for best pricing, quality, value quotient, and delivery terms. As far as chips, Apple doesn't want to rely on generic chips designed by OEM companies or by potential competitors, so that's why Apple has been snapping up small chip design companies to come up with proprietary chips that they can fine tune to the iOS.

LG and Samsung pretty much dominate the OEM production of displays and semiconductors. In fact, these businesses are much more profitable for them than selling their own branded phones. It doesn't make any sense for them to cut back OEM production when their goal is to keep the factories humming at full capacity. But, if they do come out with their own smartphones and tablets that create huge demand, then they would get priority over other OEM buyers like Apple. That's a very unlikely scenario for the near future.