Acer exec says Apple's 'closed' iPad will drop to 20% market share - Page 5

And that's a bad? Because it's utilizing the extra space that it gets in landscape mode? Oh. And BTW, my iPod Touch running iOS 4 does exactly the same.

On my Vibrant, when I switch to landscape mode, it uses the extra width to display more text, which is perfect since that's the reason why I turned it sideways in the first place. On the iPhone, it increases the font size. ...Remarkable.

Acer executive boldly claims "I don't get it".

Good points, all!

Maybe not this rev or model, but before long they will have a $199 16 GB WiFi only version of the iPad.

When this happens, you will have these wall-mounted (Valcro) in the kitchen, Nursery, Shop, etc.

They will:

-- play streamed TV/ music, Home Movies, Photos, Light Shows *
-- display Shopping Lists, Calendars, Recipes, Shop Plans, Repair Manuals *
-- monitor Security Cams / sensors throughout the house *
-- control the Lights, Sprinklers, Home Theater, HVAC, Door Locks, etc. **
-- act as an Intercom (instead of just yelling up the stairs to call the kids to dinner) **
-- be a FaceTime Video device ("phone" is such a 19th century word) *
-- oh yeah, email, web surf, social connections, run apps *

At that price, every family member and every room will have one as a personal digital hub.

* There are already apps that will do much of this-- and the SDK provides the capability to do the others.

** systems under development

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No delusion. I could drive to the closest dedicated Apple retailer, and it will be empty, just as it always is. And the last time I was at a real Apple shop, the majority of people were browsing websites. If I purchase Apple products the majority of the time I will use the online store.

SendMe is a ClickTroll.

He will post whatever is flowing through his mind at the moment-- kind of a mental diarrhea!

No possibility of reasonable discussion (or even unreasonable discussion).

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No. what won the desktop for Windows was the overwhelming need for a single standard set of document file types for everyone, business and consumer, to use. today converting files from one software format to another is trivial. but in the 90's it was practically impossible. word processing and spreadsheet file types were unreaable across different platforms and software (e.g. Word Perfect vs. Office vs. Lotus, etc.). i know. i was there. had to standarize my office on Windows/Office for exactly this reason, no other. simply so we could exchange files with anyone else and work on them. then MS built on this advantage with Exchange and so on, which also could not be avoided until about 5 years ago.

but that era is OVER. sorry, wrong history lesson.

but you are right the Android OEM's are in a pricing race to the bottom, just like PC's. the telcos however are trying to re-establish their pre-iPhone consumer manipulation practices. and Google don't give a sh*t as long as it's all covered with ads.

wow. great package, eh?

LMAO
I agree with you

I don't think a standard has been set yet. I just read an article (I believe at MacWorld) stating that 85% of iPod owners already own an Apple product. The smartphone market is still growing, and is predicted to explode in the next few years. Even though Apple makes more money than other vendors, BlackBerry still outsells them (although that percentage is slipping), and Android, for better or worse, is gaining marketshare. Both of which suggests that iOS is not the standard for smart phones Apple gets a lot of deserved press, and the user experience is smooth and consistent and enjoyable. However, things are just getting started and there is still a ways to go.

But will they really succeed?

I think hill60's sarcasm may gave been a bit too subtle.......

Until I actually see a tablet from Acer this is just a rumor. Not sure a Tablet from Acer will ever get off the ground.

To be honest I am to sure we will see any Tablet this year from anyone other then Apple. It was suppose to be the year of the Tablet and so far Apple is the only one with an actual Tablet that is selling.

A Tablet made by HTC with Android 2.2 or 3.0 would be a decent Tablet. Still in IMHO not as good as the iPad when Ver 4.0 comes to it but still a Tablet that might sell well. Android is doing far better then I thought it would. The reason I say that is I own an Android phone and while its okay there really isn't anythig all that thrilling about it.

You haven't made a point. You said iOS is controlled by Jobs and your evidence was some rant about rappers and shoes and AMERICANS SUCK(!!!) and some unrelated story about Jobs not getting a seat at a restaurant. If you'd like to make a point then we can debate.

Please, just get over yourself.

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and done.

Uh, they ship a lot of cheap instant eWaste.

I wouldn't be so proud of the Android market, where Buy One Get One Free offers push their market share, but tank their profits.

BTW, why are people looking for Apple to push more units out the door when they have problems meeting *current* demand?

I'm not sure Android buyers are very sharp. Listened to one fellow who gave up on his iPhone waiting for AT&T to fix the reception in his apartment. I wonder if he ever *told* AT&T about his reception problems. To seal the deal, he's probably an officer in S.N.A.F.U. (an anti-mobile phone antenna NGO), too...

And where will all of these competitors get the components. Apple has faced component supply bottlenecks on the iPhone and many of the iPhone wannabes cant ramp rapidly because of component limits - unless they use the low end stuff that is easily ramped. As I recall Apple locked up a land of memory chips.

I don't understand why the competitions wants to ramp market share with a low qulaity product just to make a 5-10% margin which will shrink over time as every Tom Dick and Harry builds an iPad wannabe using Android. There is a market at the low end - for sale through Toys R Us for the K-2 age crowd, so they don't screw up Daddy's iPad.

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When you call a dude you buy stuff from your "master" and say that he "gave" you "miracle products," you scare the hell out of people. Normal folks buy the computer they think will work the best at the best price, not the one they think will save their souls.

Just how is it limiting. If a business is developing apps for in-house use only, the business distributes them separately.

It seems fair to me. If the app is for in-house business use only, i.e. to be used by one single business only, then it's fair to let them distribute it separately. If the app is publicly available and the developer can make money off of consumers, then there should be some standard of quality control.

We will see, we will see.

Mind you, Apple could drop to 30 percent and still be number one in terms of percent of market, thanks to the vast number of companies out there (assuming they all actually do release a tablet as they say they will). All they need is for no other single company to hold 30% or more of the share. Which, given the number of potential competitors seems pretty likely. And under those circumstances I would say that retaining 30% is actually not too shabby


Actually they are not as vicious as you seem to think. If they were they would have dropped hardware prices a long time ago, they would have put blu-ray in their computers, they would have bought out the ATT contract so they could at least put it on T-Mobile also (if not also release a CDMA phone), etc


Not exactly. Eventually you have to pay them to be able to release anything. At least if you want to do it 'by the book'


95-98% of the ipad/iphone/ipod touch buyers are fine with it. Thus the high sales. Only the super geeks actually care and in the end it it mainly only because someone told them no and they don't like being told no.

Oh and that "Apple Tax" you are spew about. Folks don't mind paying it because they understand what they are getting for their tax dollars. They understand the value of the software that is included, the free workshops, the free tech support appointments and in some cases very pricey repairs. You certainly won't find Best Buy offering to fully examine your computer for free to figure out what is wrong. Same for phones, PMPs etc

Well one would have to be a bit of a moron to hang around a restaurant where he can't get a table. Thus why he walked out.



Thing is that folks hanging out on sites like this are the type of geeks that make up a small group of the buyers. So that group of 'we users' might want features that the much much bigger group of 'we users' really don't care about. And that bigger group are the buyers that Apple is looking for. Remember this is a business, not Art.


Actually you'll find that in most stores, very few folks are camping for free access. As for the outside resellers, a fair number of them are idiots about Apple stuff, which is why they are empty. Or they aren't as up to date on the newest stuff like the Apple stores are


No they won't. Probably won't ever go below $499 except with education etc discounts (if they ever decide to do those. Rumor has it not even their employees get a discount on the ipad)

What they will do is just keep adding to the specs. So eventually you might have a $499 128 GB wifi with 3g with a processor that is 4 times the current and 4 times the ram in the current models.

So what you are saying is, that in a country with zero Apple stores, all the stores that sell Apple stuff are idiots? Maybe you should notify Apple of this issue so they can solve this issue at once!!!

*hands Blackintosh a zune*

Some of these companies may have been working on competing products before the ipad was available in stores, but apple had an existing OS driven by several mobile phone generations of development as well as the app store already in place. Building something that can functionally compete with that kind of lead takes time. Also you don't state any information in Acer's pricing structure. It seems like apple's biggest "tax" has been on lower volume products and accessories such as mini display port to dual dvi adapters. Some of the stuff they manufacture is really competitive for the quality when compared to the competition.

Ah yes, whatever happened to that Underdog that actually listed to it's users?


Oh yes and people do care about value, utility, and entertainment. No doubt. However, when Dell did a survey for what people wanted on their systems, they said "Linux." Then Dell gave them Linux.

...and for Sony Computer Entertainment at least once.

The solution to this problem would be to outlaw use of the word 'free' in conjunction with the phrase "after rebate". After all, if you have to apply for a rebate, you don't have the money for the time it takes you to get it, so it's not really free, even after the rebate, assuming you actually get it.

Well, that's the common wisdom, but not a universal truth by any means.

Well, that's a real insult to Samsung.

And exactly what would those strengths be, relative to tablets?

The only strength that Linux has is that it's a cheap, robust server platform. (Or a cheap cable box platform.) Linux has no strengths at all as a personal OS.

Who want's to debate with Trolls? You'd have to learn trollish?

First lesson:
rant, rant, rant, ....

Second lesson:
repeat the first lesson

etc.

like samsung products, but dang, somebody needs to show those guys how to do an user interface that is intuitive and also hire someone who understands english to write manuals!!

IMO, nobody but Apple has good taste.

I have no doubt that Android will eventually win a lot of customers. Maybe the most. They will imitate Apple. Apple will not imitate. Next will be the new Apple TV.

Remember all the iPod killers? No, neither do I. Just a lot of vague flailing about.

If there is one take-away point form the whole mediaGATE thing about the iP4, it is that Steve loves each and every one of us Apple customers. Deeply and truly.

That is all the evidence anyone could need. It proves that Android buyers are not very sharp.

[QUOTE=shadash;1700850 Normal folks buy the computer they think will work the best at the best price, not the one they think will save their souls.[/QUOTE]



Yeah, but they miss the great User Experience that Steve gives us. It makes up for everything.

Macs are NOT about specs or anything geeky. They are all about satisfaction.

Steve loves his users enough that he built 300 stores for us. He did it for our convenience and because he wanted Apple to give stuff to its customers. I'm not sure that he can do it for the whole world. Not even Steve can save the whole world.

Exactly correct. They make a LOT more money from each item sold than any other hardware manufacturer. Their profits per customer are the envy of the industry.

When we buy Apple products, we are helping Steve to bring us better stuff, and the more we pay, the faster and better it happens.

We don't care if anybody else buys this stuff - as consumers, all we care about is that Apple continues to make enough large profits, so we buy their stuff, and we can continue to buy better and better Apple stuff.

In what? The screen? No. The camera? No. Build quality? Don't make me laugh. Storage? Nopes. Thinness? Sorry, no. Speed? Hell no. Froyo might have made things even, but that's it. Not about the battery either.

So please tell me where Android phones beat the iPhone. Please.

I Disagree!

The iPad is different than anything that Apple has done before.

The closest thing was the original 1984 Mac.

But this time, Apple is approaching the market differently.

I believe that Apple wants to Totally Dominate this market segment and will do whatever inecessary to do so.

Because of ramped-up production, supply constraints on the iPad are easing-- there are several ways to keep the momentum:

-- Offer the iPad in new domestic and world-wide markets.
-- Focus on new market segments: Automotive; Education; Enterprise; Small Business; Security / Home Control; Personal TV
-- Offer multiple models tailored to different uses
-- Introduce multiple hardware releases per year instead of annually
-- Prepay / reserve large quantities of components, Fab and production facilities
-- Maintain a cost umbrella vs the competition
-- Pursue IP advantages
-- Cross-license iOS, hardware and IP
-- Reduce prices / Profit Margins

I believe that all of these things are on the table at Apple-- their market advantage is too important to allow to dissipate!

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Of course DOOM wasn't released until late 1993, and that was as DOS shareware. Microsoft already had ridiculous marketshare before DOOM came out. They cleared 90% early in 1993. While DOOM being free certainly helped spread it across PC gaming, a Mac version was released in late 1994.

The DOS/Windows world had been conquered long before DOOM tho, thanks to business software and people buying what they used at work. The gaming market is a much smaller portion of the pc market and always has been.

Aug 2009
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iPhoneOS - 58%
RIM - 18%
Android - 4 %


Aug 2010
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iPhoneOS - 38%
RIM - 31%
Android - 17 %

Hm. Hey Steve, there's something going on here. Maybe it's time to sue someone.