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Because it is based on the established iOS mobile operating system -- and because it is relatively cheap and increases productivity -- the iPad has found uncharacteristically quick approval from many information-technology managers at U.S. corporations.

Highlighting the success of the iPad in the business world, The Wall Street Journal on Tuesday noted that while many companies would not approve the iPhone for corporate use when it debuted in 2007, the iPad has quickly found acceptance with IT departments at companies. Part of that is because the iOS mobile operating system, previously only available for the iPhone and iPod touch, has been updated with business-friendly features such as Exchange e-mail and remote erase capabilities.

"Apple has addressed these and other issues, including the ability for companies to encrypt information on iPhones and set up secure ways for employees to connect to corporate networks," author Ben Worthen wrote. "The latest version of the operating system used by the iPhone and iPad adds features that make the devices easier for a tech department to manage, including the ability for businesses to distribute internally developed apps without going through Apple's App Store."

The report noted that more than 500 of the more than 11,000 applications currently available for the iPad are business-oriented. One free application from Citrix, which allows employees to access corporate programs on the iPad, has seen more than 145,000 downloads.

Other advantages to the iPad: its $499 starting price makes it less expensive than a traditional business laptop, and more functional for activities like working standing up or giving a presentation.

The paper recalled that Mercedes-Benz dealers have been equipping employees with iPads to help them sell cars. The car maker began using the iPad at 40 dealerships in May, and earlier this summer said it was considering using the iPad at all 350 of its U.S. locations.

Other specific corporate uses of the iPad mentioned in the Journal's report include:

Baush & Lomb Inc., maker of eye-care products, had about 50 employees using an iPad soon after its launch. The company built its own application for salespeople. The company likes the fact that the device starts quickly and has a long battery life.

Kaiser Permanente, an Oakland, Calif., health-care organization, has been testing the iPad in a 37,000-square-foot technology lab for viewing medical images such as X-rays and CT scans.

Though Chicago law firm Sonnenschein Nath & Rosenthal LLP banned the iPhone when it first came out, it preordered 10 iPads before it was released. The company now has more than 50 attorneys equipped with iPads, and plans to issue them as an alternative to laptops next year.
Earlier this summer, Apple revealed that the iPad is at use in more than 50 percent of Fortune 100 companies. Companies such as SAP and Wells Fargo
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See! The iPad is so completely useless for productivity.
Nobody want's it, nobody can find a purpose for it. it's piling up in the stores.
Apple is going down.
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I can tell you that the largest defense contractor in the U.S. has not approved the iPad for connecting to the company intranet and won't have a policy in place until sometime next year.
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This is merely a fluke. People will see how useless the iPad is once all of the iPad killers come out and take over Apple's stranglehold on the tablet market.

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For one strategic partner it still requires 5th level approval to even think about getting one. That is after you get a boards approval first...
Even then you better be one of the good ole boys to get one.
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This is merely a fluke. People will see how useless the iPad is once all of the iPad killers come out and take over Apple's stranglehold on the tablet market.

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Will the iPad killers strike at night, when everybody is asleep?
Do I have to be afraid for my iPad??? Should I take preventive actions????
I am so scared!

BEWARE OF THE iPAD KILLER
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The only reason, and I mean only reason any IT department would allow an IPAD on the network would be because some gadget happy executives mandated it.
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The only reason, and I mean only reason any IT department would allow an IPAD on the network would be because some gadget happy executives mandated it.

I know! How can anybody use this thing? I mean, it doesn't make me coffee, so how can it be productive in a business environment? I respect your deductions on the matter, do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to?
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I can tell you that the largest defense contractor in the U.S. has not approved the iPad for connecting to the company intranet and won't have a policy in place until sometime next year.

Any idea what OS they use on their computers ...?
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It needs a full OSX.
No flash. Internet is crippled.
No OLED, front-face camera, HDMI, SD Card slot, multitasking.
You can't put it in your pocket.
You can't make calls on it.
It just a big iPod touch.
iPad is a failure, barely sell a million.
It will be the next Newton.
Apple is doomed

..etc etc.
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I can tell you that the largest defense contractor in the U.S. has not approved the iPad for connecting to the company intranet and won't have a policy in place until sometime next year.

Of course not; you can't access classified data from WiFi. You cant even have wifi enabled devices on during classified activities.

You will see some administrative and possibly unclassified applications before too long though, as long as the lines aren't blurred.
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I know some of the IC security folks and they are not risk takers, if it is not written with invisible ink on invisible paper it is not secure
Wireless and secure are not 2 words they would ever put together. I remember them having a fit over IP addressing and still pushing point to point connections

PS: "you want to bring in a cell phone with a camera in it!!!"
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"relatively inexpensive" ? I can go get a mini laptop that actually does Flash, has a keyboard, a USB port and a webcam for half. And it's already supported by IT departments.

It's not compact, it's not quick to type on, it's overpriced for what it is.
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I'm not sure I understand how the rules are any different from the ones for an iPhone?
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"relatively inexpensive" ? I can go get a mini laptop that actually does Flash, has a keyboard, a USB port and a webcam for half. And it's already supported by IT departments.

It's not compact, it's not quick to type on, it's overpriced for what it is.

The trolls are sure coming out of the woodwork. Two "one" posters for this story so far.

It must really hurt some people to see the iPad's success.

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The only reason, and I mean only reason any IT department would allow an IPAD on the network would be because some gadget happy executives mandated it.

If IT department allows Blackberry and Windows Mobile devices and I assume the iPhone what would be the rational for now allowing the iPad? Or are you thinking that the bigger screen somehow makes the device less secure?
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It is amazing how articles like this come out without the mention about perks in the workplace. I will now go on to make a statement that will make all other IT professionals shake in their boots. I guess I am like the masked magician but for IT. If it's a toy and it's electronic and if its new and cool, we will find a way or make a way for items like this to work. I can tell you that most VPs and CEOs demand their toys, and they are always asking me how we as IT professionals can make it happen. When the new iphone came out I was told I had to find a reason for our COO to get rid of his old 3Gs so he could have the latest and greatest. Most accountants need a reason and we always get stuck with the bag. Just because a couple of high priced lawyers ordered iPads doesn't mean that they make good sense in the workplace. Is the iPad a great toy, heck yes! Is it a great tool in the workplace, not really.
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Of course not; you can't access classified data from WiFi. You cant even have wifi enabled devices on during classified activities.

You will see some administrative and possibly unclassified applications before too long though, as long as the lines aren't blurred.

This is still one of the big things which Blackberry really has over it's competitors. Not so much Wi-Fi but when it comes to data security over phone networks there is real trust in their encryption technology that iPads and iPhones do not and probably will not have.
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Of course not; you can't access classified data from WiFi. You cant even have wifi enabled devices on during classified activities.

You will see some administrative and possibly unclassified applications before too long though, as long as the lines aren't blurred.

Corporate intranets aren't classified.
You can use wireless on classified networks. It's just expensive and a pain in the ass.
The iPad could have wireless disabled and dock to get information updates. Whether a software lockout is sufficient, I dunno.
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It is amazing how articles like this come out without the mention about perks in the workplace. I will now go on to make a statement that will make all other IT professionals shake in their boots. I guess I am like the masked magician but for IT. If it's a toy and it's electronic and if its new and cool, we will find a way or make a way for items like this to work. I can tell you that most VPs and CEOs demand their toys, and they are always asking me how we as IT professionals can make it happen. When the new iphone came out I was told I had to find a reason for our COO to get rid of his old 3Gs so he could have the latest and greatest. Most accountants need a reason and we always get stuck with the bag. Just because a couple of high priced lawyers ordered iPads doesn't mean that they make good sense in the workplace. Is the iPad a great toy, heck yes! Is it a great tool in the workplace, not really.

Shorter andalou:

"If I can't be productive with it, no one else can. Because everyone works exactly like me and has exactly the same needs as me".
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"relatively inexpensive" ? I can go get a mini laptop that actually does Flash, has a keyboard, a USB port and a webcam for half. And it's already supported by IT departments.

It's not compact, it's not quick to type on, it's overpriced for what it is.

And yet consumers don't seem to care about any of those "negatives" of the iPad or "positives" of the netbook. Maybe you are not clued into what the consumer wants.
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It's all in the headline wording. What I read is, "Organizations with secure infrastructure reject iPad access to internal resources, however some IT departments are willing to take greater risks when the opportunity for immediate gains in revenue exists".
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Kaiser Permanente, an Oakland, Calif., health-care organization, has been testing the iPad in a 37,000-square-foot technology lab for viewing medical images such as X-rays and CT scans.

Anyone know where I can find the original report regarding this item? I'm unable to find it with Google. It is something I really need to find.

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I can tell you that the largest defense contractor in the U.S. has not approved the iPad for connecting to the company intranet and won't have a policy in place until sometime next year.

Well, 2nd largest defense contractor has no published plans to allow iphone or ipad.
Per one of our security focals-

"An iPad doesn't have the security architecture to protect xxxxxx data, so it's not available as a corporate device right now. There is a team out of IT Services which is looking at a way to support iPhones. If they find a solution, hopefully it will also work for the iPad if that becomes a company supported device".

Thats their standard answer, for years.

With iOS 4 released, may make things easier.

But to give you an idea how things work here-
Only managers are special enough to rate a booberry, unless they have VP approval.
We're still using WinXP and IE6!!!
Gonna finally change to Win7 and IE7 next year only because MS said not going to support XP anymore.

Cash rules, and if productivety increase cannot be proved, not gonna pay for an upgrade.
Security... well thats a little more nebulous. But yea, I can see where Booberrys encryption would be prefered.
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I know! How can anybody use this thing? I mean, it doesn't make me coffee, so how can it be productive in a business environment?

It's a little known fact that the iPad does in fact support HTCPCP
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I can tell you that the largest defense contractor in the U.S. has not approved the iPad for connecting to the company intranet and won't have a policy in place until sometime next year.

And that's surprising how? Defense contractors are the closest thing we have to business dinosaurs today. Ossified, bureaucratically-driven businesses with little to no motivation to innovate any more than the next contract requires.

My iPad has completely changed how I do notes and meetings, I consider it an indispensable piece of gear. I take it places I never considered taking my MBP because of the hassle and weight. It has also allowed me to view several apps differently. Apps I had on an iPhone previously, but never used other than a quick try. Now they are an essential part of my workflow and keep everything in synch without a second thought. My productivity has gone up, not magically skyrocketed, but even if it's only a single percent it has paid for itself and then some.
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Well, 2nd largest defense contractor has no published plans to allow iphone or ipad.
Per one of our security focals-

"An iPad doesn't have the security architecture to protect xxxxxx data, so it's not available as a corporate device right now. There is a team out of IT Services which is looking at a way to support iPhones. If they find a solution, hopefully it will also work for the iPad if that becomes a company supported device".

Thats their standard answer, for years.

With iOS 4 released, may make things easier.

But to give you an idea how things work here-
Only managers are special enough to rate a booberry, unless they have VP approval.
We're still using WinXP and IE6!!!
Gonna finally change to Win7 and IE7 next year only because MS said not going to support XP anymore.

Cash rules, and if productivety increase cannot be proved, not gonna pay for an upgrade.
Security... well thats a little more nebulous. But yea, I can see where Booberrys encryption would be prefered.


It all boils down to protection of proprietary information in an ultra-competitive market.
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And that's surprising how? Defense contractors are the closest thing we have to business dinosaurs today. Ossified, bureaucratically-driven businesses with little to no motivation to innovate any more than the next contract requires.

It's clear you have no idea what you are talking about. It is not the contractors being dinosaurs. It is the government they deal with that is the dinosaur in the equation.
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I know! How can anybody use this thing? I mean, it doesn't make me coffee, so how can it be productive in a business environment? I respect your deductions on the matter, do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to?

i'd like a Mac at work but the company doesn't want to spend the money on it. we've had a few Mac people go to helpdesk and they always say that IT won't change anything to serve their special needs. get a PC. as it should be.

i've seen servers and software bought so 3 people can have a smartphone work with MS Exchange because it's some obscure phone that no one uses except those 3 people
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I can tell you that the largest defense contractor in the U.S. has not approved the iPad for connecting to the company intranet and won't have a policy in place until sometime next year.

Having family in the military, that's not a shock. They are still on Windows XP at work and there are no plans to upgrade anytime in the next 5 years.

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It all boils down to protection of proprietary information in an ultra-competitive market.

defense contractors have a long list of security rules they have to follow. that means being able to wipe a device remotely and manage it. like it or not RIM still has the best corporate smart phone management tools
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defense contractors have a long list of security rules they have to follow. that means being able to wipe a device remotely and manage it. like it or not RIM still has the best corporate smart phone management tools

...and many of those rules are mandated by the US government.
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"relatively inexpensive" ? I can go get a mini laptop that actually does Flash, has a keyboard, a USB port and a webcam for half. And it's already supported by IT departments.

It's not compact, it's not quick to type on, it's overpriced for what it is.

You must feel very lonely with your opignion, sorry\
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Is the iPad a great toy, heck yes! Is it a great tool in the workplace, not really.

Not in your workplace, but articles like this show that yours is not a 100% held opinion.

We have car companies writing up bills of sale on the lot. We have restaurants putting their menus and ordering software on ipads. We have hospitals using paperless charting via remote access directly into the main computer systems and so on

I use an ipad every day at work. It holds script pages, story boards, costuming designs. I can get and receive messages from other units as needed. I can create the call sheets for tomorrow, capture maps and driving directions, email it all out to the appropriate folks. And so on.

Textbook companies are going ebook at increasing rates making the ipad perfect for students. Which is why schools are offering the ipad in place of their traditional free laptop. I wouldn't be shocked if in a year or two, Apple's Back to School can be applied to an ipad just like you can upgrade your touch etc.

Westlaw is on the ipad via safari and they will likely do an app soon to capture the folks that find the current experience less than. Blacks has an app already etc. So even those lawyers are finding ways to use an ipad.

It's a brave new world and folks need to realize this and stop thinking old school. We scoffed and laughed at Captain Picard and his PADD but guess what, Apple has given us that very tool (and yes it is more a Picard than the big ugly Kirk version)

Articles like this also show why all those so called 'ipad killers' are going to fail. They are too late to the game. Coming out in November and December when the ipad has been going strong since April is just killing themselves. The market is soaked with ipads and will soon be saturated. Especially since these other guys can't give a firm date. Only a handful of places are so behind the times or anti Apple that they will wait it out (the military and relateds being the main one in this group).

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And that's surprising how? Defense contractors are the closest thing we have to business dinosaurs today. Ossified, bureaucratically-driven businesses with little to no motivation to innovate any more than the next contract requires.

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It's clear you have no idea what you are talking about. It is not the contractors being dinosaurs. It is the government they deal with that is the dinosaur in the equation.

techfan beat me to the reply. Those companies do OK with technology innovation, but their business process innovation is pretty much tied to the requirements set by the government. And then every congressman wants a piece of the pie for their district making it impossible for a single company to become more efficient because they have to work with 20 other companies in 20 different states, each with different technology infrastructure. Making paper the only common denominator for data exchange.*

* Ok, a bit of an exaggeration, but you get the point.
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The only reason, and I mean only reason any IT department would allow an IPAD on the network would be because some gadget happy executives mandated it.

Amen.
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See this is what I can't seem to understand when it comes to the behavior of other players in the mobile market...

Google... Android on cellular and Chrome on the desktop and Chromdroid on the tablet perhaps... lol

Microsoft... Who knows on that silly kin phone.. something else on Zune.. something else on other phones and eventually Win Mobile 7 late this year give or take. Oh yea some other OS for xBox...

HP... Microsoft on some yet to ship tablets... Palm OS on some OTHER yet to ship tablets... and did I hear WinMobile or was it Android on phones?

NOW! I'm not sure if they have some grand scheme to takeover the world based on a crazy fragmentation-theory or are they simply running those corporations by the seat of their pants and simply REACT based on whatever is currently hot in the news.

And people wonder WHY the iTunes App store is so SUCCESSFUL *and* PROFITABLE (sorry for the poke at the android market place but their customers don't buy their software)...

iPhone = iOS
iPod Touch = iOS
iPad = iOS

AppleTV reboot ... no question about it, it'll be iOS at its core.

multi-Hundreds of millions of devices ALL with long established iTunes Accounts and ALL able to purchase and run software from the iTunes App Store.

Sorry but as much as I call Apple out for some of the crap I don't like with the App store management... They got the right game plan... No doubt about it...
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"50 attorneys equipped with iPads, and plans to issue them as an alternative to laptops next year"

Really begs the question....did they ever really need a computer? Attorneys have to do a lot of documentation. I can see an iPad as another device but not a alternative.
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Anyone know where I can find the original report regarding this item? I'm unable to find it with Google. It is something I really need to find.

There's a brief reference in today's WSJ:

http://bit.ly/9Fbs2q
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