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I think that many people here are fans of special effects in moovies.

I bought recently AI from Spielberg and i found that the special effects where impressive : i never see something more natural. It was not the more spectacular special effects but everything seems true. However there is a lot of moovie with good special effects : let's start a discussion.
post #2 of 21
Fight Club and Panic Room. Completely unnecessary, very difficult to spot, but an excellent use of effects for intriguing camera movements and interesting shots.
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Waking Life

not realistic mind you, but vry interesting artistically.
post #4 of 21
most ground breaking for the time: Star Wars (A New Hope)

Honorable mention:

Star Trek II The Wrath of Khan
Superman II
The Matrix
Star Wars Episode 1 (revolution in digital effects)

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[quote]Originally posted by cdhostage:
<strong>Waking Life

not realistic mind you, but vry interesting artistically.</strong><hr></blockquote>
True, it's just a shame the movie was so incredibly dull otherwise.
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Swordfish- the opening "Claymore" scene

Lord of the Rings- Battle Scenes, Balrog

The Abyss- Tidal Wave

The Matrix- pick from many

Forrest Gump- YES Forest Gump!
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[quote]Originally posted by hmurchison:
<strong>Lord of the Rings- Battle Scenes, Balrog</strong><hr></blockquote>
You're right, the Balrog was a really nice effect. I think a lot of that was down to the artistic design as much as the digital interpretation.

Also, the cave troll looked remarkably good, especially compared to the CGI troll in Harry Potter which was awful.
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post #8 of 21
Le Voyage-Melies
The Great Train Robbery-Porter
Metropolis-Lang
King Kong-O'Brien
Destination Moon,War of the Worlds-Pal
2001-Kubrick

a decent discussion of special effects starts with the above... if ya haven't seen them, ya should.

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post #9 of 21
I'd agree with LotR. The most amazing effect, was that one that looked so real (except for a few discrepancies) that you completely forgot about it. The "down-sizing" of the hobbits. Good stuff.

And I guess the movie that made me realize, that you couldn't trust anything you saw on TV anymore was T2. When he walks throught the steel bars or stabs the guy through the milk carton... I mean c'mon! I'm pretty sure they had to kill that guy to do the scene.
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post #10 of 21
Not having seen LOTR, i'll go with Metropolis, for the sheer scope of the effects, especially considering the production date.

The Matrix for groundbreaking...


and Fight Club (curses, Belle beat me to it...) for the subtlety... special effects that enhance reality are cool. I assume Panic Room will be more of the same... same director, no?
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[quote]Originally posted by Jonathan:
<strong>and Fight Club (curses, Belle beat me to it...) for the subtlety... special effects that enhance reality are cool. I assume Panic Room will be more of the same... same director, no?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Yeah, David Fincher. Many more impossible camera movements made possible by CG coffee percolators, stair rails, floors, walls, and conduits. It's nice, but the movie isn't so hot.

He's currently shooting the next Mission: Impossible movie, which should be interesting.
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[quote]Originally posted by hmurchison:
<strong>Swordfish- the opening "Claymore" scene

Lord of the Rings- Battle Scenes, Balrog

The Abyss- Tidal Wave

The Matrix- pick from many

Forrest Gump- YES Forest Gump!</strong><hr></blockquote>

I agree with all those, except wasn't the tidal wave not even in the theatrical version of the Abyss?

I have to add the following for realism:
Saving Private Ryan (Omaha Beach, the bridge battle)
Braveheart (the battles of Stirling and Falkirk)
Gladiator (the opening battle with the barbarian horde)
Black Hawk Down (every action scene, it was more real than any of the above)

and:
2001: A Space Odyssey - even though I can't stand the pace of the movie.
Terminator 2 (blowing up the office building, the chase down the LA "River")

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post #13 of 21
not saying these are best but they make my list

Ghostbusters (definitely not best but what the hell)
Jurassic Park
Matrix
Saving Private Ryan
post #14 of 21
Most of the 3D character animation for LotR was done through motion capture. When they're leaving the Caves of Moria and they're running across the collapsing bridge prior to losing Gandalf... most of those actors aren't real

for the larger battle scenes, they use a custom program that automatically generates the soldiers for those scenes. Basically, they defined each race for the program; average height, weight, how uniforms differ from taller and shorter people, weapons used, fighting styles, etceteras. The program then created the characters and practically simulated the entire large battle scenes, very little key frame animation was done in LotR on the whole.

So if you want to talk about computer generated special effects, I think LotR had more to offer than Star Wars Episodes I and II. What they're doing in Star Wars has been done before, and to some extent it has in LotR, but it is the way in which they're using the technologies that differ.

Lucas needs to get off his whole "digital filmmaking" trip. The tools don't make the artist. I don't think he is a very good director, and believe that he got lucky with Star Wars. very lucky. LotR was a much more successful use of computer generated effects, through the way the technology was exploited, adapted, and applied.
post #15 of 21
2001

No contest. Star Wars? Ha!
post #16 of 21
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[quote]Originally posted by starfleetX:
<strong>2001

No contest. Star Wars? Ha! </strong><hr></blockquote>

Yes 2001 : was a great moovie for special effects : very realistic even in 2002. No digital effects, but so perfect, so real (it was realised with the help of Nasa) . The first time i see this moovie i was 14 years old : i was atonished. Really one of the best film of science fiction ever. and the more egnimatic end in entire moovie history.
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[quote]Originally posted by starfleetX:
<strong>2001

No contest. Star Wars? Ha! </strong><hr></blockquote>
2001 is probably the most boring, pretentious, uninteresting movie ever made. I'd rather watch the Ace Ventura sequel.

And Stanley Kubrick was a misogynist ass.

Uh, yeah, so I don't like 2001 much.

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[quote]Originally posted by Belle:
<strong>Uh, yeah, so I don't like 2001 much.</strong><hr></blockquote>Well, nya!

This thread isn't about the most interesting movie, rather the one with the best effects. Thus, 2001.

Strange, I have yet to meet a single girl who doesn't hate 2001... hrmm. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> :confused: <img src="graemlins/embarrassed.gif" border="0" alt="[Embarrassed]" />
post #19 of 21
Quallity:
1. LOTR: Im sorry, this had the best computer animation EVER. Golem, frikin Golem! He looked REAL! Its the only good organic character Ive ever seen.

2. Fight Club: The use of CG mixed with its quallity. The kitchen flyby is still some of the best CG Ive seen.

3. Dark City: It came out in 96 I think? Its got computer animation thats good by todays standards.

hon. mention: What Dreams May Come (I think that was the title, about Robin WIlliams going to heaven). Best artistic use of CG ever, best envisionment of hell in a movie ever.

Now as for Pioneers:

1. Starwars, they were a first to do MANY of these effects (the first 3 not the frikkin new ones).

2. 2001, definatly.

3. I cant htink of a third.


The Matrix was impressive, but quite frankly it wasnt good enough to be put in most impressive. It was a good USE of effects (great onion skinning), but not good effects so to say (though the wall running, the dodging, etc. rocked).
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post #20 of 21
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[quote]Originally posted by Belle:
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2001 is probably the most boring, pretentious, uninteresting movie ever made. I'd rather watch the Ace Ventura sequel.

And Stanley Kubrick was a misogynist ass.

Uh, yeah, so I don't like 2001 much.

[ 05-18-2002: Message edited by: Belle ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
Speaking of Kubrick, i ear Kirk Douglas in a interview (in french television when he presented his autobiographie some years ago in France) saying that you can be a total dumbass and a genius for moovie making.
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Luckyly as a spectator i have just to see his moovies and not support the guy.

I'll add that in a statistical point of vue, women are generally less fan of science-fiction.
post #21 of 21
[quote]Originally posted by powerdoc:
<strong>I'll add that in a statistical point of vue, women are generally less fan of science-fiction. </strong><hr></blockquote>


eh, kurbik was actually very little science fiction- 2001 was more arthur c. clarke than kubrik
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