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With Apple's annual media-centric keynote now set for Sept. 1, Piper Jaffray has advised investors to buy shares of AAPL prior to the event, citing past stock boosts after new iPods were unveiled.

Analyst Gene Munster said Wednesday that since 2005 Apple has hosted an event in early September every year, and shares of AAPL stock for the month have increased an average of 12 percent over that span, excluding 2008 when the market saw widespread declines. When measuring through the end of the year, shares went even higher, by an average of 22 percent.

"We believe Apple will hold a similar event this year to announce the first iPod touch with a camera, an updated Apple TV with an App Store, and iTunes changes, like a cloud-based iTunes service," he said in a note Wednesday, issued just before Apple officially announced its Sept. 1 keynote. He had recommended that investors buy AAPL stock before the announcement was made. "We would view an updated Apple TV as an important step in Apple developing an all-in-one Apple Television. An updated MacBook Air, in our opinion, is a wildcard possibility."

Munster said he believes a new Apple TV could turn the company's "hobby" into a more material business, selling millions of units per year. The current Apple TV, he said, likely sells less than a million a year.

"Bringing the App Store to the Apple TV would add many new and meaningful features (like Netflix streaming, or video games, for example)," Munster said. "Other mediar eports have indicated that Apple could offer TV show rentals for $0.99 on the iTunes store, which we would view as a step forward for Apple TV."

Munster continues to believe that a connected HDTV is in the works from Apple, likely to arrive in the next 2 to 4 years. The rumored iTV product, he said, would just be a stepping stone to an eventual flat-panel living room TV.



The analyst said it's also possible that Apple could announce a new cloud-based iTunes service could be introduced at the Sept. 1 event. A crucial part of that service, Munster believes, will be the soon-to-open data center Apple is building in North Carolina.

Coupled with an expected iPod touch update with a forward-facing camera for FaceTime video chat, Munster sees the potential for a significant increase in AAPL stock.

"We believe that investors generally anticipate the Sept. event by the beginning of the month, and anticipation builds ahead of the holiday shopping season with Apple's iPod lineup (along with Macs and other products) set for holiday sales," he said. "However, keep in mind that historical trends are not necessarily an indicator of future events."
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Analyst Gene Munster said Wednesday that since 2005 Apple has hosted an event in early September every year, and shares of AAPL stock for the month have increased an average of 12 percent over that span, excluding 2008 when the market saw widespread declines. When measuring through the end of the year, shares went even higher, by an average of 22 percent.

Then should I buy AAPL now?
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Then should I buy AAPL now?

The mid 90's would have been better, but yes, now will do.
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I wish / hope.

I doubt iTV will do much to share value, it may even hurt. If an Apple product isn't a major hit it is a failure to investors and nothing Apple does, even when it wipes the floor with everything else seems to help the stock much.

AAPL is sooo under valued. So yes it is a great time to buy.
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It's way undervalued, but frankly I won't buy again unless it hits $185 or $190... which is a distinct possibility the way things are looking. The market these days is even less rational than usual. There must be massive short activity to keep AAPL as depressed as it is now.

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It's way undervalued, but frankly I won't buy again unless it hits $185 or $190... which is a distinct possibility the way things are looking. The market these days is even less rational than usual. There must be massive short activity to keep AAPL as depressed as it is now.

Yeah, I haven't seen a single analyst lower his/her estimates on future price, starting at $350/share and up. I'm well aware of contrary stock analysis, but this is ridiculous. Can ALL the analysts be that far off (and we're not talking about that share price in the next two years -all have stated they expect this before the end of the year.)
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It's way undervalued, but frankly I won't buy again unless it hits $185 or $190... which is a distinct possibility the way things are looking. The market these days is even less rational than usual. There must be massive short activity to keep AAPL as depressed as it is now.

I'm inclined to agree. I don't trust the markets one bit right now, even though Apple are currently cookin on gas.
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and we're not talking about that share price in the next two years -all have stated they expect this before the end of the year.)

Not out of the equation either. I expect both realities to be true within a short period. There will be (more) misery followed by a sharp rise to luxury.
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It's way undervalued, but frankly I won't buy again unless it hits $185 or $190... which is a distinct possibility the way things are looking. The market these days is even less rational than usual. There must be massive short activity to keep AAPL as depressed as it is now.

It's a massively suck-tastic stock market. Or perhaps you hadn't noticed?
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It's way undervalued, but frankly I won't buy again unless it hits $185 or $190... which is a distinct possibility the way things are looking. The market these days is even less rational than usual. There must be massive short activity to keep AAPL as depressed as it is now.

Yes something is keeping AAPL down seems to have been going on a long time ... I assume if they stopped shorting it would rocket up?

Off topic - but re your sig, Maggie was a centrist. By Tea Party standards she'd be a communist lol. I worked part time for one of her campaigns. She was a tough lady
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Yes, but look at 2008. When the entire stock market heads south, so does Apple.
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Maggie was a centrist. By Tea Party standards she'd be a communist lol. I worked part time for one of her campaigns. She was a tough lady

Maggie is a legend. Unlike most in my country, I have utmost respect for her.
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Apple will never release an all-in-one tv. Never.
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Apple will never release a all-in-one tv. Never.

iMac in front of couch. Boom!
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Apple will never release a all-in-one tv. Never.

Your post is utterly unspecific. Why could you be so shure? Apple did a lot off stuff, most people found even more unlikely than an all-in-one TV in 1 - 3 years
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Apple will never release a all-in-one tv. Never.

You mean never AGAIN?

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Apple will never release a all-in-one tv. Never.

I completely disagree. Eventually, the TV as we know it will morph into an all in one screen (or hologram) that incorporates media streamed via whatever form the internet takes at that time - wirelessly, or satellite, whatever...at that time, when everything switches over, why not an Apple "Appliance", which won't be called a TV as we know it, but Apple prides itself in making just such game-changers, and branding it with the Apple logo. If the stranglehold that exists today was ever able to be dissolved, and a worldwide standard for media presentation were to be implemented (however unlikely it is for the foreseeable future), why not? - I believe it is inevitable. So, never say never - please.
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I don't know why, but AAPL always seems to dip 5% - 10% a few days before every Apple media event. I seem to recall that it dropped sharply for absolutely no reason just before Apple's earnings announcement in January. There was no bad Apple news, no natural disaster, and no unusually bad economic news. Apple announced great number, and the stock bounced back up in the following days.

Smells like some kind of collusion between a major Apple shareholder and someone who has a short position on AAPL. As in "Hey, I'm shorting Apple on January 22. If you sell all your stock, it'll drop the value of AAPL and I'll give you 20% of my profits." Followed by "OK, we'll sell X million shares, on Friday January 22 at 08:00, and you give us 40% of your profits. We'll take payment in bearer bonds, for the sake of anonymity. Oh, and if you don't take our offer, we'll buy Y million shares on the 21st to boost AAPL. Take it or leave it..."

So the massive seller profits in three ways. First, they take the straight profit when they sell AAPL (since they presumably bought it at a lower price." Second, they take the cut of the profits made by the guy with the short position. Third, they can buy back their shares, plus more, at the lower price.

Here's Fortune's take: http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/01/...points-friday/

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Then should I buy AAPL now?

Yes... as much as possible.

<signed, An Existing AAPL owner who will benefit greatly by others' purchases.>
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I don't know why, but AAPL always seems to dip 5% - 10% a few days before every Apple media event. I seem to recall that it dropped sharply for absolutely no reason just before Apple's earnings announcement in January. There was no bad Apple news, no natural disaster, and no unusually bad economic news. Apple announced great number, and the stock bounced back up in the following days.

Smells like some kind of collusion between a major Apple shareholder and someone who has a short position on AAPL. As in "Hey, I'm shorting Apple on January 22. If you sell all your stock, it'll drop the value of AAPL and I'll give you 20% of my profits." Followed by "OK, we'll sell X million shares, on Friday January 22 at 08:00, and you give us 40% of your profits. We'll take payment in bearer bonds, for the sake of anonymity. Oh, and if you don't take our offer, we'll buy Y million shares on the 21st to boost AAPL. Take it or leave it..."

So the massive seller profits in three ways. First, they take the straight profit when they sell AAPL (since they presumably bought it at a lower price." Second, they take the cut of the profits made by the guy with the short position. Third, they can buy back their shares, plus more, at the lower price.

Here's Fortune's take: http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/01/...points-friday/

At this point any Apple news is negative. To investors everything is perfect right now until you hear a new event coming. No matter how positive it will be. Insure the guy who makes 100 po sts per day will tell you the same.
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I'm inclined to agree. I don't trust the markets one bit right now, even though Apple are currently cookin on gas.

agreed.

and considering aapl has dropped from 270 to 240 overt the past eight weeks, saying that the price will rally is kind of safe bet.
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Your post is utterly unspecific. Why could you be so shure? Apple did a lot off stuff, most people found even more unlikely than an all-in-one TV in 1 - 3 years

But none of which involved SKUs that
- are physically large, there requiring huge warehouse and display expenses.
- must be stocked in a wide variety of options (anywhere from 30" to 100")
- are low margin
- are better distributed through big box stores, and made by high volume manufacturers
- offer less upgradability that is far better served with a simple box plugged into any existing monitor.

If there were odds in Vegas of Apple going into the Best Buy business, I'd put a BIG wager against it, and start planning my retirement.

edit: Ask yourself... What happens when Apple release v2 of a 60" Apple TV? People will upgrade a $99 box. Upgrading a huge monitor is not a trivial decision or activity. All in one boxes are dead ends. Not Apple's model.
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It's way undervalued, but frankly I won't buy again unless it hits $185 or $190... which is a distinct possibility the way things are looking. The market these days is even less rational than usual. There must be massive short activity to keep AAPL as depressed as it is now.

Although no one can predict the market with any degree of certainy, I'd be willing to bet we have seen the last of sub 200.00 apple (unless we see a market collapse like 2008).

August 9 ... Dow at 10,719.56 ... Nasdaq at 2,309.33 ... Apple at 261.75

August 25 .. Dow at 10,060.06 ... Nasdaq at 2,141.54 .. Apple at 242.89

Dow (-659.50), Nasdaq (-167.79), Apple (-18.86)

This, imho, is a huge buying opportunity.

This "trend" is market-wide (summer doldrums) ... think "sell in May, go away ... buy in fall, make money pile tall".
Even more so for Apple as it's two biggest retail periods are directly in front of them .... back to school and Christmas.
This, imho, is a huge buying opportunity!
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You mean never AGAIN?


I bought one of those in '94, branded as a Performa+ 630 and it was a dog as was System 7.5.

If Apple really intend to bring out an HDTV there will need to be a compelling added value reason to make consumers steer away from offerings from the likes of Sony.
Perhaps a tarted up next gen iMac enclosed in a 50" screen.
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You mean never AGAIN?

That was Apple minus SJ, not the same animal.
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Although no one can predict the market with any degree of certainy,

You should have stopped right there.

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That was Apple minus SJ, not the same animal.

I'm not arguing for or against, just pointing out that Apple did go the TV route once upon a time.
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You mean never AGAIN?


That is one ugly television..
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August 9 ... Dow at 10,719.56 ... Nasdaq at 2,309.33 ... Apple at 261.75

August 25 .. Dow at 10,060.06 ... Nasdaq at 2,141.54 .. Apple at 242.89

Dow (-659.50), Nasdaq (-167.79), Apple (-18.86)

This, imho, is a huge buying opportunity.

Not sure I get your point. Apple and Nasdaq both down 7.27%; Dow down 6.15%. Using the statistics you cite would seem to argue that apple's future would match the indices whose fall it matched, no? Few people are excited about the market's prospects in the next six months ("watch money pile tall" notwithstanding!)

I wouldn't exclude an apple run-up in the balance of the year, I just don't see how your stats support the conclusion you seem to be making. Or do you feel this is a huge buying opp'y for the market in general?
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I wouldn't exclude an apple run-up in the balance of the year, I just don't see how your stats support the conclusion you seem to be making. Or do you feel this is a huge buying opp'y for the market in general?

Or maybe it's just easy to give anonymous market advice to strangers.
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You should have stopped right there.

Care to elaborate?
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Care to elaborate?

Because then you went on to make predictions.
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I wouldn't exclude an apple run-up in the balance of the year, I just don't see how your stats support the conclusion you seem to be making. Or do you feel this is a huge buying opp'y for the market in general?

Generally speaking, I don't favor trying to gauge the entire market as opposed to a few select companies.
In looking at Apple, since 2004, with the exception of 2008, when the financial world went to hell in a handbasket, .... Apple has always finished the year higher than it was in mid-summer.

Again, I think this points to the major retail volumes happening in the back to school and Christmas seasons combined.

Am I trying to tell everyone to buy Apple? Hell no. I'm just saying that Apple has followed the market down and if one thinks that Apple is going to finish the year strong .... as it has in 5 out of the last 6 years ... then this would be, imo, a terrific buying opportunity.

Let's face it, when a person is trying to decide to buy or sell a stock, it's always a gamble ..... you hope you're on the right side of a trend ... but there are no guarantees. I'm just betting Apple is going to make it 6 out of 7.
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Because then you went on to make predictions.

Am I not allowed to predict the stock market in relation to Apple? This whole website is filled with Apple predictions ... future hardware .. software, whatever....

So how come you got a burr up your ass when I was responding to SpamSandwich who was wondering what was going on with Apple stock price?
You lost a bundle on the market or something? If I responded to you that way every time you tried to figure out what was coming down the road at Apple .... I'd have CTS from all the typing. .... give me a break.
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Am I not allowed to predict the stock market in relation to Apple? This whole website is filled with Apple predictions ... future hardware .. software, whatever....

So how come you got a burr up your ass when I was responding to SpamSandwich who was wondering what was going on with Apple stock price?
You lost a bundle on the market or something? If I responded to you that way every time you tried to figure out what was coming down the road at Apple .... I'd have CTS from all the typing. .... give me a break.

Oh, good grief. Talk about having a burr up your backside.

The point was, you started out talking about the difficulty of making specific predictions, then you went on to make... specific predictions. Pardon me for pointing this out. As I said, I think you should have stuck with your first idea. Nobody can really predict stock prices, which doesn't prevent a lot of people from making them. Unless they have special knowledge that the rest of market lacks, then perhaps they should refrain.

Incidentally, I also responded to this question. It's not a conspiracy, it's a lousy market. Nobody knows when or even if it's going to get better, or whether it's going to get much much worse before it gets any better. But predict away -- I'm sure lots of people are begging for your advice.

BTW, I have NEVER tried to predict anything related to Apple's stock price, even after owning it for 13 years.
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Nobody knows when or even if it's going to get better, or whether it's going to get much much worse before it gets any better..


I do.(yeah I know we have been here before )

I predict that it will get better, and I can say that with 99.9999% certainty.

I predict another slump in the next 1.5 weeks with 65% certainty.

I predict at least a 15% rise within 10 weeks with 80% certainty.

It's just probability, science itself is based on probability predictions.

Sure, I can't be 100% accurate, but for the purpose of making money my accuracy weighs considerably in my favour on average. And thats all that matters, to me anyway.


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BTW, I have NEVER tried to predict anything related to Apple's stock price, even after owning it for 13 years.

So did you buy the stock just for fun? Surely you made an educated prediction that over time your investment would reward you?
Also I predict that you must still hang on to elements of your original prediction even now, else surely you would sell the stock?
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With Apple's annual media-centric keynote now set for Sept. 1, Piper Jaffray has advised investors to buy shares of AAPL prior to the event, citing past stock boosts after new iPods were unveiled..."We believe that investors generally anticipate the Sept. event by the beginning of the month, and anticipation builds ahead of the holiday shopping season with Apple's iPod lineup (along with Macs and other products) set for holiday sales," he said. "However, keep in mind that historical trends are not necessarily an indicator of future events."

Mr. Jaffray is right to include that last caveat. The last few days of the stock market have been pretty rough. And one thing we know about Apple stock is that its short term price isn't immune to market trends. In addition, it's been my experience that many Apple stockholders exhibit more distrust than the usual stockholder, and tend to bail out earlier and in larger numbers. Not sure why - if you've held long you've been very well taken care of - but it's true nonetheless.

I'd personally feel pretty comfortable in saying that if you want to buy some Apple stock and put it in a drawer for a couple of years, you'd do just fine for yourself. And I'd say with the recent pullback in the stock prices this is a particularly good time to set yourself up a long term position. Historically, the P/E ratio is very low for Apple. It has a huge reserve of cash, and its EPS is growing by leaps and bounds.

Back in '97, I compared Apple to a cork on the Titanic. I said it would definitely get pulled down by the suction, along with everything else. But, I said, it would also float to the top a lot quicker after the Titanic finally hit bottom.

And so it has. The only question is - is the Titanic through sinking? Maybe yes, maybe no. But a lot of people are certainly afraid that it is, and in some ways that's just as bad....
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So did you buy the stock just for fun? Surely you made an educated prediction that over time your investment would reward you?
Also I predict that you must still hang on to elements of your original prediction even now, else surely you would sell the stock?

I have my ideas obviously, but they are all very long term (hence, the term of my investment) and keep them to myself, if only because I don't pretend to know what's going to happen over any period of time. I suppose given that I invested in AAPL 13 years ago I could advertise myself as some sort of investment sage, but I've never felt up to it. Over the years, I've learned the value of my own predictive powers the hard way, and I would not want anyone to feel like they can rely upon any buying or selling advice I might give. I get asked a lot, but I refuse to give any. Do your own research, make your own decisions, is my only advice.
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....and I would not want anyone to feel like they can rely upon any buying or selling advice I might give. I get asked a lot, but I refuse to give any. Do your own research, make your own decisions, is my only advice.

I certainly agree with you there. If any of my friends ask for advice I flat refuse nowadays. I remember a while back I gave advice to a good friend and his life savings dwindled to around 60% of his initial investment. My name was dirt. People loved to chat about how bad my prediction was. But the fundamentals of the prediction were sound, the stock turned round, and another 6 months later he was up considerably.
But I did not enjoy those 6 months. I get no praise for his eventual good fortune. People only remember the bad news!
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The point was, you started out talking about the difficulty of making specific predictions, then you went on to make... specific predictions.

When I use phrases like: I'd be willing to bet or This, imho, would seem to indicate an opinion, not a specific prediction.
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Pardon me for pointing this out.

Wrongly .... but pardon me while I point that out.
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I think you should have stuck with your first idea. Nobody can really predict stock prices, which doesn't prevent a lot of people from making them. Unless they have special knowledge that the rest of market lacks, then perhaps they should refrain.

Well, that would be your OPINION then, wouldn't it? Do you see how that works?

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But predict away -- I'm sure lots of people are begging for your advice.

I see you have over 3400 posts ..... At what point did the condescending attitude kick in? ... and when can we look forward to it leaving?

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BTW, I have NEVER tried to predict anything related to Apple's stock price, even after owning it for 13 years.

BTW ... Who asked .... and the attitude just keeps coming and coming ...
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When I use phrases like: I'd be willing to bet or This, imho, would seem to indicate an [B]opinion[/B... etc etc

BTW ... Who asked .... and the attitude just keeps coming and coming ...

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