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Valve's monthly survey of the hardware specifications of Steam users has found that nearly half of Mac gamers run a MacBook Pro, while the iMac accounts for nearly a quarter.

Released this week, the Steam survey for July 2010 shows MacBook Pro owners accounting for 46.78 percent of Mac hardware ownership. The iMac comes in second with 23.18 percent, while 20.25 percent of gamers played on Apple's low-end, entry-level MacBook.

Apple's high-end desktop, the Mac Pro, came in fourth, with 5.41 percent of Macs that logged into Steam for the month. Finally, the Mac mini represented 3.44 percent of Mac users.

Just over 5 percent of all Steam users connected to the gaming service via a Mac. The number suggests some of the initial excitement surrounding Steam for Mac died down, as more than 8 percent of gamers used Mac OS X in May 2010.

The lion's share of Mac users have upgraded to Snow Leopard, as a total of 4.3 percent on the serve were running Mac OS X 10.6.3 64-bit. Another 0.77 percent remain on Leopard, running Mac OS X 10.5.8 64-bit.

Mac users overwhelmingly have more system RAM than other gamers, with 53.61 percent of all users carrying 4GB in their system. Another 31.15 percent had just 2GB, which is the most common capacity of all Steam users.



Most run the Nvidia GeForce 9400M graphics card, while the most common primary display resolution is 1280 by 800 pixels. More than 90 percent of Mac owners have a system with two physical CPUs.

Steam is a digital game distribution platform which has more than 25 million users and offers access to 1,100 games on the PC. Developer Valve has said it will treat the Mac as a "first-tier" platform, meaning new major titles developed for the PC will release day-and-date with the Mac.

High-profile releases from Valve for Mac OS X so far have included Game of the Year award winners Portal and Half-Life 2. Valve has also made native OS X support for the Source engine available to licensees for use in their games. The company has also made its Steamworks suite of publishing and development tools available on the Mac platform, including product key authentication, copy protection, auto-updating, social networking, matchmaking, anti-cheat technology, and more.
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Released this week, the Steam survey for July 2010 shows MacBook Pro owners accounting for 46.78 percent of Mac hardware ownership. The iMac comes in second with 23.18 percent, while 20.25 percent of gamers played on Apple's low-end, entry-level MacBook.

Apple's high-end desktop, the Mac Pro, came in third, with 5.41 percent of Macs that logged into Steam for the month. Finally, the Mac mini represented 3.44 percent of Mac users.

You really need to proofread your articles.

1. MacBook Pro
2. iMac
3. MacBook
4. Mac Pro
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I use my 15" i7 MacBook Pro for games rather than any other Mac I have. I occasionally hook up to a 24" Apple LCD but most times like the ability to sit anywhere.
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I used to buy Mac Pros, but those days are over. The iMac is just fine for home use and casual gaming, even if it doesn't have a cutting edge video card. I hate gaming on the MBP and I only do that when I'm traveling.
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I'm still using Boot Camp for my gaming needs. Even on my 2010 15" MBP, Team Fortress 2 doesn't run at an acceptable rate under OSX. Hopefully things will improve over the next year.

Steam's hardware surveys are always an interesting read, especially seeing how many people are still running Windows XP!
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I have a Macbook Pro. I don't play a single game other than Sudoku.
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I'm still using Boot Camp for my gaming needs. Even on my 2010 15" MBP, Team Fortress 2 doesn't run at an acceptable rate under OSX. Hopefully things will improve over the next year.

Steam's hardware surveys are always an interesting read, especially seeing how many people are still running Windows XP!

Weird, my 2 year old MacBook Pro runs it fine.
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Of course the number of people logging on has dropped, I can't think of a single high profile game release since Team Fortress 2.

Start releasing decent games and people will start logging in.
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Weird, my 2 year old MacBook Pro runs it fine.

Maybe we've got a different definition of fine. At 1680×1050, I get around 10-15 fps when the action gets busy.
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Do they need these stats to know what is going on?

So its intel Mac's only, which is pretty much only dual core. Add to that there are only so many models Apple of computers from Apple. Then subtract everything that only has Intel GPU's which probably eleminates all single core CPU models, and you are left with mini's and macbooks that that share almost the exact same guts (9400/dual core) and a few others.

Its not like Mac users are going out to new egg and buying a new video card to upgrade their Mac, which would give steam a bunch of more data.
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Of course the number of people logging on has dropped, I can't think of a single high profile game release since Team Fortress 2.

Start releasing decent games and people will start logging in.

I second that. I installed Steam about a month ago but didn't find a single game to play on it. I am not into "shoot as many as you can before they shoot you" games and I found out there are not many of those (I might like) for OSX on Steam. Most of the games I might like to play are for Windows clients only. :-(
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Maybe we've got a different definition of fine. At 1680×1050, I get around 10-15 fps when the action gets busy.

I got around that by running at a lower resolution. It still looks pretty good IMO. I commute on a train, so being able to game while riding to/from work is a huge bonus for me. I have a mid 2010 i7 15" macbook pro. I can get over an hour of play time on a full charge. Pretty amazing.

I haven't played a steam title since Starcraft 2 came out. I will go back to them when I have finished the campaign in Starcraft 2.
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But, but, Macs don't run DirectX which makes it not a very good gaming machine.
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Doesn't surprise me. MacBook Pros with 4GB of RAM are da bomb.

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I used to buy Mac Pros, but those days are over. The iMac is just fine for home use and casual gaming, even if it doesn't have a cutting edge video card. I hate gaming on the MBP and I only do that when I'm traveling.

yeah. mac pro's have become so unreachably and unnecessarily expensive that it doesn't even warrant looking at them as an option. You literally only need them if you're in need of running 3 or more video cards concurrently or some other pci card. casual gamers aren't going to drop 10 grand on a desktop machine to play games. that's just stupid. the starting price is 3 grand? really? someone's lost their damn mind.
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But, but, Macs don't run DirectX which makes it not a very good gaming machine.

sadly, that still holds true. They're only mediocre gaming machines when they run OS X. \
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I am not into "shoot as many as you can before they shoot you" games and there are still not many of those for OSX on Steam.

Since you are not into "shoot as many as you can before they shoot you games", why do you care if there are not many?
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sadly, that still holds true. They're only mediocre gaming machines when they run OS X. \

I guess you didn't catch on to the fact that my comment was mimicking Steve Ballmer's comments about the iPhone not being "a very good email machine".

OS X runs games just fine.
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You really need to proofread your articles.

1. MacBook Pro
2. iMac
3. MacBook
4. Mac Pro

and "ore" when you meant to say "more"

there's another article about the 7 inch iPad where "teh" is used instead of "the"
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I have a Macbook Pro. I don't play a single game other than Sudoku.

cool?

the 13 year old in me wants to call you a n00b for being a casual.

macbook pro...get starcraft 2!!! i wish my old macbook would run it.
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yeah. mac pro's have become so unreachably and unnecessarily expensive that it doesn't even warrant looking at them as an option. You literally only need them if you're in need of running 3 or more video cards concurrently or some other pci card. casual gamers aren't going to drop 10 grand on a desktop machine to play games. that's just stupid. the starting price is 3 grand? really? someone's lost their damn mind.

I have a Power Mac G5 (dual 2.0 ghz) from 2004. Not a problem for what is now six years. It is currently my full time desktop computer. Meanwhile my iMac from 2007 (Snow Leopard) is slow (surprisingly slower than my PowerMac with PPC leopard). I'm convinced that Mac Pro is the best bang for your buck if you don't (want to) buy machines often.

I plan to buy a Mac Pro when this one finally dies.
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cool?

the 13 year old in me wants to call you a n00b for being a casual.

macbook pro...get starcraft 2!!! i wish my old macbook would run it.

Oh no! I don't find time. I go out with MBP for work. So no games at work!
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But, but, Macs don't run DirectX which makes it not a very good gaming machine.

This may explain why the iPhone and PlayStation and Wii all suck as gaming hardware.

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Since you are not into "shoot as many as you can before they shoot you games", why do you care if there are not many?

My bad, I was in a hurry writing on iPhone - I changed the post a bit. I was pointing to the offers for Mac - when you browse those games most of them are shooters and I hate non-brain run&shoot games where the only purpose of the game is to kill all others. F.e. I would like to see Mafia 2 for Mac on Steam... I would buy that right now. I will have to install Wirus on my iMac to be able to play it. :-(
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Of course the number of people logging on has dropped, I can't think of a single high profile game release since Team Fortress 2.

Start releasing decent games and people will start logging in.

Left 4 Dead?

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I have a Power Mac G5 (dual 2.0 ghz) from 2004. Not a problem for what is now six years. It is currently my full time desktop computer. Meanwhile my iMac from 2007 (Snow Leopard) is slow (surprisingly slower than my PowerMac with PPC leopard). I'm convinced that Mac Pro is the best bang for your buck if you don't (want to) buy machines often.

I plan to buy a Mac Pro when this one finally dies.

Are you talking about the general feeling of speed? I honestly think this is down to the HDD... your G5 probably has RAID, or at least a very fast disk interface. The iMac is basically a laptop in a big screen with a single and cheap full sized disk.

My home built PC feels a LOT faster than any iMac I have used (it's an AMD, but has RAID0)... but I recently plopped an SSD in my 4 year old MacBook and it feels faster than anything I've ever used.

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But, but, Macs don't run DirectX which makes it not a very good gaming machine.

Right. They support OpenGL instead which is supposed to be better than DirectX.
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Right. They support OpenGL instead which is supposed to be better than DirectX.

If the original game was written in OpenGL, which most aren't and if Apple has an up to date an optimized version of OGL in OSX which they do not.
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I certainly don't game on my MacBook Pro, it runs way too hot.

For those of you playing on your MacBook Pro, how hot does it get? With mine (Mid-2007, 2.4GHz), playing about any type of game will have the processor temp hit around 207-209°. Naturally Apple says that there's nothing wrong with that temperature, but with the fans whining and the heat I feel while using the keyboard (nothing is too hot to touch on the case, but dang, it gets warm), I just don't game on my MBP.

So, I don't really game that much, although I'd like to...
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We will see some more decent releases for Mac at some point?
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I guess you didn't catch on to the fact that my comment was mimicking Steve Ballmer's comments about the iPhone not being "a very good email machine".

OS X runs games just fine.

Depends on your standards then; if you only need to have a few older Valve games (or what ever else has been ported to OpenGL), and can accept lower framerates than the Windows counterparts, even on the same HW, then OSX runs games just fine.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3759/m...r-than-windows

I only look at Steam on OSX as a bonus or curiosity at this point, at least until Apple gets serious about GPUs and video drivers.
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Are you talking about the general feeling of speed? I honestly think this is down to the HDD... your G5 probably has RAID, or at least a very fast disk interface. The iMac is basically a laptop in a big screen with a single and cheap full sized disk.

My home built PC feels a LOT faster than any iMac I have used (it's an AMD, but has RAID0)... but I recently plopped an SSD in my 4 year old MacBook and it feels faster than anything I've ever used.

Nah no RAID.. just a 130 GB SATA drive (original!).
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Depends on your standards then; if you only need to have a few older Valve games (or what ever else has been ported to OpenGL), and can accept lower framerates than the Windows counterparts, even on the same HW, then OSX runs games just fine.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3759/m...r-than-windows

I only look at Steam on OSX as a bonus or curiosity at this point, at least until Apple gets serious about GPUs and video drivers.

The ”Apple Snow Leopard Graphics Update 1.0” seem to have sped things up quite a bit (in Valve games at least). At least it did for me (have a Radeon HD 4890 graphics card).

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id...raphics-update


More on the update on the News page for Steam: http://store.steampowered.com/news/4211/

There's more that can be done to improve performance, but it seems it's going in the right direction.
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Maybe we've got a different definition of fine. At 1680×1050, I get around 10-15 fps when the action gets busy.

I'm convinced that Apple authorized and is aiding Steam (an App-Store equivalent on Mac territory!) simply because Steam can help sell Mac Desktops (Mac laptops sell themselves).

As a Mac-only household, and coming back the gaming scene with the advent of StarCraft 2, Half-Life and Portal this year (all awesome titles), I'm beginning to see that my MBP 13" is capable but not quite comfortable when running 3D games (ie, say as opposed to puzzle/word/platformers).

I'm seriously considering a bootcamp partition or iMac now that it's clear that I want flowing framerates of at least 30-40 at peak activity (which just isn't the case with the MBP 13").
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