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post #41 of 100
8/29/10 at 2:15am
Maybe it's because the product is already over half a year old (counting from the announcement) and rumors about a new version are growing? It's just recently released here in the Netherlands. If it was released in April (or if I could get one (16GB 3G) at the store the first weekend :P) I would have bought it, now I'd rather wait for the next generation...
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post #42 of 100
8/29/10 at 2:27am
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Maybe it's because the product is already over half a year old (counting from the announcement) and rumors about a new version are growing? It's just recently released here in the Netherlands. If it was released in April (or if I could get one (16GB 3G) at the store the first weekend :P) I would have bought it, now I'd rather wait for the next generation...

Me too. If it were released in May in HK, I would definitely have bought one. Now I'll definitely wait.
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post #43 of 100
8/29/10 at 4:49am
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

Yeah, as much as I would love to see a smaller iPad, I don't see how it's in the works if they aren't testing it yet, and they are still trying to ramp up production on the first model.
If they don't get out some decent software for the thing soon you can have mine.

I bought it because I wanted to be productive "on the go" sort of speak. iPad is a fantastic slouchy-type device for using around the house, but it ain't no mobile computer (unless you are talking the mobility needed to get from the living room to the kitchen).

I also disagree. I am a lawyer working in academia. I use the iPad for classroom presentations, email, Skype phoning, taking notes in meetings, reading case law, reading books, shopping, playing crosswords and scrabble whenever I have five minutes. I'm getting real value out of the thing. And my wife now wants one.
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post #44 of 100
8/29/10 at 5:19am
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I would say the demand has dried up. Not that my experience is hard data, but I have an iPad and four other people I know have iPads. We all bought them in the first month...I have yet to meet anyone else who has bought an iPad since...

Utter rubbish. In the UK Apple Stores people are still queuing up to buy iPad, in fact they can't get them in to customers hands fast enough.
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post #45 of 100
8/29/10 at 5:19am
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If you want to be productive on the go, get a macbook.

but I CAN work with an ipad :

- omnigraffle
- projector
- iwork
- things
- issh
- jump
- others..

it's not a lie. I use the ipad in my paid job to create and manage documents and tasks. and even some networks monitoring.

of course, I still have a mac pro on my desk. but I do not use a macbook anymore.
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post #46 of 100
8/29/10 at 5:21am
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Originally Posted by Mac_Keeper_Fan_Mod View Post

Maybe it's because the product is already over half a year old (counting from the announcement) and rumors about a new version are growing? It's just recently released here in the Netherlands. If it was released in April (or if I could get one (16GB 3G) at the store the first weekend :P) I would have bought it, now I'd rather wait for the next generation...

no more new ipad before, at least, spring 2011.
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post #47 of 100
8/29/10 at 5:47am
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I would love to scour the archives of this site for the usual names denigrating the ipad. Those same people who said it would crash and burn, had no place in the market and would struggle to sell are now those same people complaining about the perceived lack of functionality based on their interpretation of what the product should be.

I think it goes both ways though. Before the iPad announcement, I remember several Apple fans here were telling us that nobody wants a tablet, that it's a solution in search of a problem and that Apple shouldn't waste time on such a project.
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post #48 of 100
8/29/10 at 6:12am
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I think it goes both ways though. Before the iPad announcement, I remember several Apple fans here were telling us that nobody wants a tablet, that it's a solution in search of a problem and that Apple shouldn't waste time on such a project.

That is a broad statement. I was clearly in the camp that said a tablet using a desktop OS would not work and therefore would not exist. For years before the iPad came out this was the common mockup. I cant even recall any mockup that tried to remain the UI to fit the devices display. It was just Mac OS X, or later, a virtually unchanged iPhone OS.
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post #49 of 100
8/29/10 at 6:40am
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Originally Posted by JeffDM View Post

I think it goes both ways though. Before the iPad announcement, I remember several Apple fans here were telling us that nobody wants a tablet, that it's a solution in search of a problem and that Apple shouldn't waste time on such a project.

You're reiterating my point, not making a counter argument.

Apple release a new product, the usual faces tell us it will fail, then when it doesn't fail they tell us why we're wrong to like it. Even the 'hobby' that Is apple tv has sold over six million units. Apple know the market place and understand what the average consumer wants. They produce attractive products that people like, and people buy them. There is overwhelming hard data to back this up.

The imac revolutionised home computing, the ipod revolutionised the music industry, the iPhone revolutionised smartphones, the app store created a brand new eco system which revolutionised app distribution and purchase, including price point expectation, and the Ipad will revolutionise media consumption and our perception of what a computer is. That isn't fanboy-ism, it's a statement of fact.

Anyone referring to the ipad as a failure at any level is, frankly, talking out of the wrong hole.
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post #50 of 100
8/29/10 at 6:47am
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That is a broad statement. I was clearly in the camp that said a tablet using a desktop OS would not work and therefore would not exist. For years before the iPad came out this was the common mockup. I can’t even recall any mockup that tried to remain the UI to fit the device’s display. It was just Mac OS X, or later, a virtually unchanged iPhone OS.

I didn't mean it as a broad statement, I tried to make it clear there wasn't a consensus. I'm just saying that that it wasn't just the Apple haters (TM) or whatever other invective people like to throw. And the invectives are thrown from both sides too, don't get me wrong on that.

There were a few different "camps", I think a significant one said that the UI would need to be changed, if it wasn't clear beforehand, it should be clear now that a quick & dirty UI scaling probably wouldn't do the job.

Over time, I think I had several different opinions, but one major one was that if anyone could figure out how to make a tablet popular, it was Apple. I don't remember trying to make any prediction as to how it would happen or how it would work, though for some of my uses, a less expensive Axiotron would have been fine. For more popular use, it probably wouldn't do.
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post #51 of 100
8/29/10 at 6:51am
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You're reiterating my point, not making a counter argument.

Apple release a new product, the usual faces tell us it will fail, then when it doesn't fail they tell us why we're wrong to like it.

I got the impression that you were only talking about the Apple "haters", not including the "faithful". This response really doesn't change that impression.
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post #52 of 100
8/29/10 at 6:55am
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That is a broad statement. I was clearly in the camp that said a tablet using a desktop OS would not work and therefore would not exist. For years before the iPad came out this was the common mockup. I cant even recall any mockup that tried to remain the UI to fit the devices display. It was just Mac OS X, or later, a virtually unchanged iPhone OS.

But we're not talking broadly. we're talking about specific users with a very definite response to the ipad keynote, when we saw there would be no full desktop os and had seen the device demonstrated. The same users who now deny the massive success of the device while making futile attempts at telling us why it is so flawed and that people are wrong to buy and enjoy the product, that happy ipad users are somehow deluding themselves. The five million consumers are somehow wrong to be happy with ipad, and these angry little people continue to stamp their feet. No flash? No Camera? No onboard usb/esata/sd ports..?

Apple are doomed! Lmao.
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post #53 of 100
8/29/10 at 6:59am
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Originally Posted by JeffDM View Post

I didn't mean it as a broad statement, I tried to make it clear there wasn't a consensus.

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But we're not talking broadly. we're talking about specific users with a very definite response to the ipad keynote, when we saw there would be no full desktop os and had seen the device demonstrated.

Mea culpa, guys. I came into this conversation on Jeffs post without reading the preceding comments.
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post #54 of 100
8/29/10 at 7:05am
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I got the impression that you were only talking about the Apple "haters", not including the "faithful". This response really doesn't change that impression.

Nah, I'm talking about those who make nothing other than negative posts. The users of this site who would complain even if apple gave away free money.
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post #55 of 100
8/29/10 at 7:07am
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Nah, I'm talking about those who make nothing other than negative posts. The users of this site who would complain even if apple gave away free money.

OK, I understand now.
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post #56 of 100
8/29/10 at 7:11am
How about market experts who stated this would struggle to sell a million units, then upped that estimate when apple sold a million, then upped it again when Apple hit three million?

That isn't analysis or prediction, it's reaction to facts after the event. Utterly pointless stock manipulation. Why do these guys still have any credence? They should be embarrassed by how wrong they are time and time again.
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post #57 of 100
8/29/10 at 7:20am
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but I CAN work with an ipad :

- omnigraffle
- projector
- iwork
- things
- issh
- jump
- others..

it's not a lie. I use the ipad in my paid job to create and manage documents and tasks. and even some networks monitoring.

of course, I still have a mac pro on my desk. but I do not use a macbook anymore.

Yup, I use mine for work too, it's great and can't imagine going on a shoot without it. But my point is that it's not a laptop/desktop replacement and those who criticise it for not being such are clearly misunderstanding the ipad's place in the grand scheme of things.
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post #58 of 100
8/29/10 at 7:28am
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But my point is that it's not a laptop/desktop replacement and those who criticise it for not being such are clearly misunderstanding the ipad's place in the grand scheme of things.

Apple seems to have gone out of their way to show that the iPad is a auxiliary computing device, not a PC replacement. You cant even activate it without first connecting it to a machine running iTunes. Apple could have easily made the initial screen a splash screen with an iTunes login and resignation, or simply had you access it with no iTunes login, but they didnt, and Id think its crystal clear why not.
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post #59 of 100
8/29/10 at 8:01am
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

If they don't get out some decent software for the thing soon you can have mine.

I would hope you will find what you want (software that is) but if not, I would be more than happy to except your kind offer!
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post #60 of 100
8/29/10 at 8:04am
All my local electronics stores have iPad in stock now, it is not hard to get. I have had mine since May, currently really liking the Kindle app, since they updated it to support search. Just yesterday I found a passage in a paperback I had read years ago, would have been impossible (or at least slow) with a paper book.
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post #61 of 100
8/29/10 at 8:04am
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post #62 of 100
8/29/10 at 8:16am
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

Apple seems to have gone out of their way to show that the iPad is a auxiliary computing device, not a PC replacement. You cant even activate it without first connecting it to a machine running iTunes. Apple could have easily made the initial screen a splash screen with an iTunes login and resignation, or simply had you access it with no iTunes login, but they didnt, and Id think its crystal clear why not.

Remember back when iTunes Store first opened, the DRM arrangement with the studios was at most 5 PCs or Macs, but an unlimited number of iPods or future portable devices. At least, that is how I remember it.

If the iPad became a fully fledged PC, maybe the the whole "authorize this computer" thing from iTunes would have to make an appearance on it.
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post #63 of 100
8/29/10 at 8:18am
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Remember back when iTunes Store first opened, the DRM arrangement with the studios was at most 5 PCs or Macs, but an unlimited number of iPods or future portable devices. At least, that is how I remember it.

If the iPad became a fully fledged PC, maybe the the whole "authorize this computer" thing from iTunes would have to make an appearance on it.

That makes sense, I hadn't heard about that angle before.
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post #64 of 100
8/29/10 at 8:23am
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Remember back when iTunes Store first opened, the DRM arrangement with the studios was at most 5 PCs or Macs, but an unlimited number of iPods or future portable devices. At least, that is how I remember it.

If the iPad became a fully fledged PC, maybe the the whole "authorize this computer" thing from iTunes would have to make an appearance on it.

Nice! I hadn’t thought about it in that way before. Could it be they aren’t contractually allowed to let you put in your iTunes account info into an iDevice directly (expect to confirm your identity for the purchase) without using one of your five authorized machines? Note that Apple still has a 5 authorized devices (running iTunes with the same account) limit.
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post #65 of 100
8/29/10 at 8:45am
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Your specific needs are not important here. The question is will such a device generate significant demand in the marketplace? I'm suggesting it will given the right feature set, especially an HD or wider screen.

Whose damn needs are important then. My needs, desires and wants probably reflect as large of a segment of the population as anybody else's commenting here.

WTF? Are you some wanna be analyst or AAPL shareholder that does not care about individuals wants/desire? I own AAPL stock too (got it at $18 when Apple was "dying") so I care very much about what sells. I never suggested that Apple ignore the product altogether -- just that a smaller form factor is not for me.

You might try to be a bit more sensitive about others opinions - not that I am some thin skinned panty waist. I just makes things a bit more pleasant here.
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post #66 of 100
8/29/10 at 11:04am
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After struggling to meet consumer demand for the iPad since it launched in April, estimated shipping times for new online orders have improved to within 24 hours, suggesting any production problems have been resolved.
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Or the very high initial demand dropped off to match supply.
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post #67 of 100
8/29/10 at 11:42am
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Or the very high initial demand dropped off to match supply.

Presumably you missed all of the earlier discussion on this subject, but it's worth mention here that this reasoning is nothing more barely hidden code for a failure, which some people constantly and illogically predict for Apple, even when demand for their products far exceeds even the most optimistic estimates.
Please don't be insane.
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post #68 of 100
8/29/10 at 11:46am
Funny how these product shipment rumors start: http://www.ankleskater.com/pagemaker...20100829132700
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post #69 of 100
8/29/10 at 12:24pm
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You know, I think I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. I'm a college student. I have a MacBook Pro, but I also have an iPad. I use the iPad in class all the time. Between iWork for iPad (which I use to take notes with in my social science classes) and Penultimate (which I use in conjunction with a Pogo Sketch pen for my math and science classes), I find the iPad to be a very productive tool. Throw in a PDF reader (whether it be GoodReader or iBooks or ReaddleDocs) and all of a sudden the iPad is the perfect on the go device. Now granted, if I need to write a 10 page paper, I'm probably not going to do it on my iPad. But, it's a great device to take to the library to do some research with.

Besides what you have, perhaps the following would be of interest.
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post #70 of 100
8/29/10 at 1:01pm
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Besides what you have, perhaps the following would be of interest.

Wow! SoundPaper has me almost convinced to buy another iPad, today. And I probably would if there wasn't an Apple event in a few days.
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post #71 of 100
8/29/10 at 1:38pm
Here are a few more amazing apps for the ipad:

1) Wolfram: http://products.wolframalpha.com/ipad/index.html
2) Siri: http://siri.com/
3) Tunein Radio: http://www.tunein-radio.com/index.html
4) Vevo: http://www.vevo.com/iphone?ios
5) Atomic Web: http://www.padgadget.com/2010/05/15/...ad-app-review/

Wolfram and Siri are easily two of my favorites apps.
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post #72 of 100
8/29/10 at 1:56pm
Just downloaded SoundPaper. Thanks Onhka!
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post #73 of 100
8/29/10 at 2:24pm
Wow, it only took them 4+ months to get the shipping times down to 24hrs

My guess is they have refined the efficiencies of the assembly and manufacturing to get more iPads made in less time.
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post #74 of 100
8/29/10 at 2:31pm
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Wow, it only took them 4+ months to get the shipping times down to 24hrs

My guess is they have refined the efficiencies of the assembly and manufacturing to get more iPads made in less time.

From everything that'd been stated and rumored since the device darted shipping, LG is the only one with issues manufacturing enough 9.7" IPS displays. I haven't heard anything about Apple having efficiency issues with asembling the iPad components.
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post #75 of 100
8/29/10 at 4:16pm
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

Yeah, as much as I would love to see a smaller iPad, I don't see how it's in the works if they aren't testing it yet, and they are still trying to ramp up production on the first model.
If they don't get out some decent software for the thing soon you can have mine.

I bought it because I wanted to be productive "on the go" sort of speak. iPad is a fantastic slouchy-type device for using around the house, but it ain't no mobile computer (unless you are talking the mobility needed to get from the living room to the kitchen).

I agree with you, but I note that I wonder why you didnt realize this before you bought it. It's not like the device hadn't been thoroughly picked and panned prior to going on sale.

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post #76 of 100
8/29/10 at 9:22pm
Remember that the initial onslaught was for _consumer_ demand. All this means is that Apple is able to keep up with consumer demand now because they get priority. Corporate customers with bulk orders are still waiting in line. I'm not sure, but there may be a backlog in other countries still too. There are also no sales outside Apple and Best Buy yet. I'd be interested to know how inventories are doing in those stores. Is inventory still hit or miss?
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post #77 of 100
8/29/10 at 9:29pm
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

Apple seems to have gone out of their way to show that the iPad is a auxiliary computing device, not a PC replacement. You can’t even activate it without first connecting it to a machine running iTunes. Apple could have easily made the initial screen a splash screen with an iTunes login and resignation, or simply had you access it with no iTunes login, but they didn’t, and I’d think it’s crystal clear why not.

Maybe. Or maybe they just are not ready to do that yet. I don't think it is a high priority... just a matter of time. I'm sure if the iPods go standalone then the iPad will too. That of course requires some way to sync your iPod from the cloud. I seem to recall Apple hinting about something like this...

That still doesn't change the fact that this is an auxiliary computing device. It will fit lots of niches as time goes on though. There is just something about a full screen app that makes you more focused and less likely to waste your time blogging... Although, I can almost see us returning to the thin client model. iPads (and other lightweight devices) coupled to a home or cloud server.
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post #78 of 100
8/29/10 at 9:33pm
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Maybe. Or maybe they just are not ready to do that yet. I don't think it is a high priority... just a matter of time. I'm sure if the iPods go standalone then the iPad will too. That of course requires some way to sync your iPod from the cloud. I seem to recall Apple hinting about something like this...

I agree. I can easily see the evolution of the iPad becoming more PC-like, nor would be surprised to see some radical changes that allowed more PC-like computing with iOS 4.x for the iPad.
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post #79 of 100
8/30/10 at 2:10am
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Originally Posted by nkhm View Post

... And yet there are people on this site who don't own one, don't understand it's purpose and not only criticise the product, but the millions of those who have bought it and dare to like it.

Crazy.

I'm not sure specifically who those people are, but you might shut them up by explaining exactly what it's purpose is and how in particular it magically meets that purpose.

My company has one and, to be fair, it's not looking compelling right now. Maybe in the future, following the engaging and instructional post you'll be providing that explains the compelling nature of SJ's "magical" device, I'll feel inclined to be as thoroughly excited about it as you seem to be. I'm on the edge of my seat.

Or maybe Rev 2 will do the trick?
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8/30/10 at 2:20am
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The same users who now deny the massive success of Windows while making futile attempts at telling us why it is so flawed and that people are wrong to buy and enjoy the product, that happy Windows users are somehow deluding themselves.

A familiar yet strangely ironic argument, nkhm.
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