[quote]sam... i know yer sum kinda superhippy 'er sumpthin'<hr></blockquote>
???????!!! whats this "superhippy" BS? Just because I support a concerted effort to find/develop alternative sources of energy that are (a) clean (b) sustainable, and (c) allows the US to become independent of foreign nations (some of whom seem to bear some kind of grudge against us)....why should that make me the target of some stupid and childish slur?
Oh...maybe this is it!...perhaps you are thinking about industrial hemp! You know...hemp
, as in the plant cannabis sativa. "Hippies", as you so uncharitably decribe me, apparently smoke it to get high and turn out like John Lennon et al. Remember him of "give peace a chance?" Yes, the dreaded evil weed marijuana!
But regarding industrial hemp, it is also an extraordinarily versatile and hardy plant, which grows pretty much anywhere in this country. Industrial hemp thrives where most plants cannot even begin to. There is vast acreage in this country which cannot support regular cash crops, but can be used for hemp agriculture. If this land were utilized as such, we could grow enough hemp from which enough alcohol could be distilled to run all the cars and trucks and generate *all* our electricity needs. This could easily if necessary be supplemented by hydro, solar, wind, geothermal and tides. The burning of crude oil, coal and natural gas would become an ugly episode of our past. One big problem: it is illegal to cultivate this crop in this country because the cotton, paper, and chemical industry were threatened by it back in the 1930s when they used some ridiculous harebrained campaign without a trace of scientific input to first vilify and then illegitimize it by associating it with some fictitious and laughable symptoms of marijuana intoxication.
[quote]but uh, like it or not, oil is the status quo and energy of choice and it's gonna be that way fer a long long time. it sucks, but there ya go..<hr></blockquote>
As the link suggested, big oil is a contributor to big terror. It is Oil Money that finances the likes of al Qaeda etc. Lets take the US *out* of the oil equation...it can be done, and it must be done...unless we wish to generate a new bunch of baby bin Ladens all vying to "get America". There will still be a market for oil in other nations, so the Arab world isn't suddenly going to go bust. America has enough oil to refine for plastics, pharmaceuticals, chemical etc manufacture but in the end both ours, and Arab/Russian etc oil *WILL* run out...so *all oil producing nations* had best prepare their economies for that inevitable eventuality. Like it or not, oil is a *finite resource*. So is coal and gas. Sorry.
[quote]and driving a oil-slinging boat into a fine sailing vessle ain't gonna stop it or nuclear energy(which by the way, might just save us from big oil).<hr></blockquote>
Nukes are over, done. No nuke has been built in this country for decades, and many of the small companies and contractors that designed and manufactured parts and spares do not exist any longer. The nuke industry is in a similar boat to NASA in that the technology is old, and it is starting to fall apart. Unfortunately we are still left with the legacy of some 90 atomic power-plants which at some point will have to be dismantled, at a cost of some $5 billion each. And everyone is now arguing about where the hell to put that 10,000 year half-life lethal excrement that the nuke industry spews out. Nukes are dead...at least fission is, and a good thing for us all that no more are going to be built. Its bad enough dealing with the mess we have now.
[quote]truth is sam...nothing can stop it. it took a 100 years to make us so dependent on oil, it'll take at least that long to undo it.<hr></blockquote>
You are either a total pessimist, or you work in the oil industry! Oil *will* run out, specially considering the exponential increase in consumption rates as an increasing portion of the rest of the world become aware of, and will want and demand an American type of lifestyle. And don't get me started on global warming and rises in sea-level, caused in part by our fossil-fuel addiction. And yes, you may quote Rush Limbaugh's, or the oil industry's opinion on global warming to me, but I won't give it much credence.
And....hows about using standard English spelling in your posts? I guess "fer" and "sum" and "sumpin" etc. could look cute to a 5th grader, but on a BB, look kinda silly. Sorry, but thats just me being a bit picky. Oh well....