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Apple has announced that it will provide a public, live stream of Wednesday's keynote, which will be made available via the company's HTTP Live Streaming open standard to Mac and iOS device users.

The Cupertino, Calif., company made the announcement as a media alert Tuesday evening. The live video stream will be available when the keynote begins Wednesday at 10 a.m. Pacific Time, 1 p.m. Eastern, at apple.com.

"Apple will broadcast its September 1 event online using Apple's industry-leading HTTP Live Streaming, which is based on open standards," the company said. "Viewing requires either a Mac running Safari on Mac OS X version 10.6 Snow Leopard, an iPhone or iPod touch running iOS 3.0 or higher, or an iPad."

Apple used to provide a webcast of its keynote events, but stopped doing so in 2005. This week's apparent change of heart could have been inspired by the Wi-Fi meltdown that occurred at the iPhone 4 unveiling, when Chief Executive Steve Jobs had difficulty showing off the company's latest handset because there were too many Wi-Fi hotspots in the Moscone Center.

Jobs asked members in the audience if they could turn off their Wi-Fi devices, but many did not comply, and Jobs was unable to demonstrate some of the features of the iPhone 4. Jobs revealed there were 570 Wi-Fi base stations within the auditorium.

Wednesday's keynote will be at a different location, San Francisco's Yerba Buena Center for the Arts. In addition to Apple's official live stream, AppleInsider will also have its own live coverage.
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I'm still not convinced there actually was a WiFi "meltdown" at the iPhone 4 unveiling. What was Steve's hand position when he lost the signal?

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This is wicked awesome. So is AI going to provide a live stream of the live stream for the poor unfortunate PC users?

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[QUOTE=AppleInsider;1704922] "Viewing requires either a Mac running Safari on Mac OS X version 10.6 Snow Leopard..."

Why is 10.6 necessary to watch a live stream? That's a rotten shame.
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6pm in the UK?
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I'm still not convinced there actually was a WiFi "meltdown" at the iPhone 4 unveiling. What was Steve's hand position when he lost the signal?

It was a Wi-Fi problem. 570 base stations equals pollution.

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6pm in the UK?

Yes it is.
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Anyone wondering why the stream will be available only on devices running 10.6 and iOS 3 and later? Could there be something new that is tailored to Apple operating systems? Why shut out the rest of the world? Interesting. Any ideas?
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So, Apple Insider and a hundred other blogs will still have it's own live coverage, resulting an another 570 base stations? So, what will be different? BTW, since Apple is going live, why doesn't Apple Insider give Apple a break...offer an intelligent analysis after the event?
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Yes it is.

Cool! Thanks for the confirmation

I'm gonna have to try and sneak out of work early...
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Apple has announced that it will provide a public, live stream of Wednesday's keynote, which will be made available via the company's HTTP Live Streaming open standard to Mac and iOS device users.

The Cupertino, Calif., company made the announcement as a media alert Tuesday evening. The live video stream will be available when the keynote begins Wednesday at 10 a.m. Pacific Time, 1 p.m. Eastern, at apple.com.

"Apple will broadcast its September 1 event online using Apple's industry-leading HTTP Live Streaming, which is based on open standards," the company said. "Viewing requires either a Mac running Safari on Mac OS X version 10.6 Snow Leopard, an iPhone or iPod touch running iOS 3.0 or higher, or an iPad."

Apple used to provide a webcast of its keynote events, but stopped doing so in 2005. This week's apparent change of heart could have been inspired by the Wi-Fi meltdown that occurred at the iPhone 4 unveiling, when Chief Executive Steve Jobs had difficulty showing off the company's latest handset because there were too many Wi-Fi hotspots in the Moscone Center.

Jobs asked members in the audience if they could turn off their Wi-Fi devices, but many did not comply, and Jobs was unable to demonstrate some of the features of the iPhone 4. Jobs revealed there were 570 Wi-Fi base stations within the auditorium.

Wednesday's keynote will be at a different location, San Francisco's Yerba Buena Center for the Arts. In addition to Apple's official live stream, AppleInsider will also have its own live coverage.

What the living HELL??????
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Anyone wondering why the stream will be available only on devices running 10.6 and iOS 3 and later? Could there be something new that is tailored to Apple operating systems? Why shut out the rest of the world? Interesting. Any ideas?

Only three ideas here. (1) they need some HTML5 streaming codec that is currently only available on those OS's (2) they're just testing the system for the first event and will open it up in later events or (3) it's just Apple showing preference to its users.
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What the living HELL??????

Can I hear an amen?
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Anyone wondering why the stream will be available only on devices running 10.6 and iOS 3 and later? Could there be something new that is tailored to Apple operating systems? Why shut out the rest of the world? Interesting. Any ideas?

Yup. Html 5 streaming which requires the latest version of safari.
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I thought we would never return to these days. I will have to tune in now and I am OK limiting the users to basically iOS devices and 10.6 users.
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I'm still not convinced there actually was a WiFi "meltdown" at the iPhone 4 unveiling. What was Steve's hand position when he lost the signal?

You're the man.
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post #18 of 146
Get this......

This year at work the IT department is clamping down (as per the friggin management) and decided to firewall all internet streaming.

Now of all times as Apple has miraculously decided to allow a livestream of their event!!!!!

!!!!!ARGH!!!!!
post #19 of 146
Well, okay, I'll be hitting apple.com at 1pm. This should be interesting to see how it turns out.
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nht (above) just answered my question.
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Interesting that they should showcase live video streaming over HTML5 just after Flash becomes available for Android, and shows terrible performance. I'd bet a big part of their reasoning is to show the superiority of HTML5 video over flash for mobile devices
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A quick wikipedia search reveals why iOS/Snow Leopard is required: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Live_Streaming

It is indeed an open standard (IETF internet draft), but the only client implementations so far are in QuickTime X and iOS v3 or later. If the tech works well tomorrow, expect more implementations in the future.
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@ Olternaut: The streaming appears as HTTP downloads. You may have lucked out.

...darn, i mean to edit the other post...
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A quick wikipedia search reveals why iOS/Snow Leopard is required: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Live_Streaming

It is indeed an open standard (IETF internet draft), but the only client implementations so far are in QuickTime X and iOS v3 or later. If the tech works well tomorrow, expect more implementations in the future.

Open standard? Well doesn't any of the other browsers have this feature at least in a beta form?
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I'm still not convinced there actually was a WiFi "meltdown" at the iPhone 4 unveiling. What was Steve's hand position when he lost the signal?

Yeah, after all... why we hear only about Stevo's wi-fi problem, weren't reporters also affected by the meldown? I followed four sites in parallel and never seen any issue
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Open standard? Well doesn't any of the other browsers have this feature at least in a beta form?

Given that browsers are only now getting basic HTML5 video support, probably not.
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Get this......

This year at work the IT department is clamping down (as per the friggin management) and decided to firewall all internet streaming.

Now of all times as Apple has miraculously decided to allow a livestream of their event!!!!!

!!!!!ARGH!!!!!

well, it's http streaming so you may be able to watch it.
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post #28 of 146
Interesting. I would imagine the first thing people will think is this was brought on by the WiFi fiasco of the last event, but I don’t think so. That affected the recorded presentation. This is another wrench in the works.

What I think is Apple is finally going to try to put this open protocol more on the map by showcasing how well the event can stream from a single source across the globe. Well… I hope, because if they did not stress test their setup it will look bad all around. If it succeeds it could be a the silent market winner of the event.


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Why is 10.6 necessary to watch a live stream? That's a rotten shame.

HTTP Live Streaming is an open protocol Apple developed. It’s part of iOS which then became part of the QuickTime X engine. While we could argue that the decision to use this protocol was purposely limiting, the fact that only iOS 3.x+ and Mac OS X 10.6 support it is not artificial.


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Get this......

This year at work the IT department is clamping down (as per the friggin management) and decided to firewall all internet streaming.

Now of all times as Apple has miraculously decided to allow a livestream of their event!!!!!

!!!!!ARGH!!!!!

Not all internet streaming is created the same. It’s possible that your IT team has ignored this protocol as it’s still not widely used.

http://iphone.akamai.com/
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post #29 of 146
The rest of the internet during the keynote: NOW OBSOLETE!
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Interesting. I would imagine the first thing people will think is this was brought on by the WiFi fiasco of the last event, but I don’t think so. That affected the recorded presentation. This is another wrench in the works.

What I think is Apple is finally going to try to put this open protocol more on the map by showcasing how well the event can stream from a single source across the globe. Well… I hope, because if they did not stress test their setup it will look bad all around. If it succeeds it could be a the silent market winner of the event.



HTTP Live Streaming is an open protocol Apple developed. It’s part of iOS which then became part of the QuickTime X engine. While we could argue that the decision to use this protocol was purposely limiting, the fact that only iOS 3.x+ and Mac OS X 10.6 support it is not artificial.




Not all internet streaming is created the same. It’s possible that your IT team has ignored this protocol as it’s still not widely used.

http://iphone.akamai.com/

Yeah, problem is though I don't think the correct Apple codec is installed. We're running PCs here at any rate....old ones too!

Don't worry....I have a plan! I'm going to clock out (*sigh* yes clock out) for lunch at 1pm eastern and run down to the lobby where there is a staples store with free wifi. I'll hang out there with my iPod touch for an hour.
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Yeah, problem is though I don't think the correct Apple codec is installed. We're running PCs here at any rate....old ones too!

Don't worry....I have a plan! I'm going to clock out (*sigh* yes clock out) for lunch at 1pm eastern and run down to the lobby where there is a staples store with free wifi. I'll hang out there with my iPod touch for an hour.

The only PCs that have access to HTTP Live Streaming are those running Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard. There might be some 3rd-party option since it is open, but its not part of Safari or QuickTime 7.x.
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Get this......

This year at work the IT department is clamping down (as per the friggin management) and decided to firewall all internet streaming.

Now of all times as Apple has miraculously decided to allow a livestream of their event!!!!!

!!!!!ARGH!!!!!

There's an very good chance they won't pick this up. The traffic will be going over HTTP and look like normal web traffic. Just keep quiet about it tomorrow and tune in and try your luck.

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Open standard? Well doesn't any of the other browsers have this feature at least in a beta form?

Because they're lazy.
post #33 of 146
Live stream...must be good.

Extra coffee and popcorn; I am sooo staying up for this. Just hope that Steve announces that TV show and movie rentals are coming to Japan.

 

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Because they're lazy.

For those that arent lazy and like stress, you can try this out
http://www.ioncannon.net/programming...rce-segmenter/
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So, Apple Insider and a hundred other blogs will still have it's own live coverage, resulting an another 570 base stations? So, what will be different? BTW, since Apple is going live, why doesn't Apple Insider give Apple a break...offer an intelligent analysis after the event?

I'd expect that Apple would ask them to turn them off as they enter the room or maybe even jam the cells.

The live streaming is the carrot. Expect the stick.
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well, it's http streaming so you may be able to watch it.

Well, probably not with this PC I'm running at work with IE7...yes 7...with no flash installed and no quicktime either.
It's locked down alright.

I'm going to go in the lobby where there is free wifi at the staples store and use my ipod touch. I'll hang out there for an hour.
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Well, probably not with this PC I'm running at work with IE7...yes 7...with no flash installed and no quicktime either.
It's locked down alright.

I'm going to go in the lobby where there is free wifi at the staples store and use my ipod touch. I'll hang out there for an hour.

I suggest you test that Akami site I posted in the morning before work to see if it works at all through their routers.
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Oh damn, I am driving home from the White Mountains in NH to Florida and will miss it!
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post #39 of 146
Who wants to take bets that Apple's servers won't be able to handle the load? I predict that people will still stick to jizzmodo, engadget or any other site hosting a live blog once Apple's servers crash.
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Oh damn, I am driving home from the White Mountains in NH to Florida and will miss it!

If you are driving, can you stop at 1pm for a long lunch at a place with WiFi. Starbucks typically have great public WiFi speeds.

If you are not driving, will you have your iPhone with you and will there be AT&T data service on that part of the trip? so you can watch it?

Also, even if you are driving but cant stop, if you have your iPhone with you and some data access on AT&T you could listen to it. But I would assume there are others in the vehicle that may not be so keep to partake.
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