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post #41 of 111
9/1/10 at 11:56am
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Steve said "all new designs for every model". Is the classic not considered an iPod?

I wanted an answer to that as well.
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post #42 of 111
9/1/10 at 12:01pm
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Can someone confirm this? I looked all over the apple site and it would appear that the new iPod Nano has lost its video playing AND TAKING capabilities. Seems like a step backward since it was the first iPod to be able to take video!

That does indeed look to be the case.
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post #43 of 111
9/1/10 at 12:05pm
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I wanted an answer to that as well.

I assume that when the stock runs out its gone ... so its not updated but they aren't going to stop selling it while they still have some.
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post #44 of 111
9/1/10 at 12:07pm
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Steve said "all new designs for every model". Is the classic not considered an iPod?

Nope. I'm sure they'd love to discontinue it, but it must sell a few here and there to justify continuing it but not bothering to update.
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post #45 of 111
9/1/10 at 12:09pm
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And still no GPS...come on.

There are third-party GPS add-ons for the Touch. I expect they will be updated for the latest version. My understanding is that GPS is power hungry, but somehow my ancient Magellen 320 can go all day on a pair of AAs. *shrug*

I am also surprised at the low resolution on the camera. Like someone else said, "1280x720 video but only 960x720 stills??" That's not even enough for a desktop background.

I am glad to see the A4 and that they did away with different CPU powers for the different storage capacities. Levels the field and gives developers one target to aim for. Nintendo & Sony should be worried.

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post #46 of 111
9/1/10 at 12:14pm
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If you want GPS, then buy an iPhone. I'm frankly surprised they are coming this close to the iPhone with these latest models. The only thing separating them now is the GPS and a cell phone chip.

And spend 299 plus 3 year contract or 799 unlocked for a 32GB...no thanks.


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There are third-party GPS add-ons for the Touch. I expect they will be updated for the latest version. My understanding is that GPS is power hungry, but somehow my ancient Magellen 320 can go all day on a pair of AAs. *shrug*

I am also surprised at the low resolution on the camera. Like someone else said, "1280x720 video but only 960x720 stills??" That's not even enough for a desktop background.

I am glad to see the A4 and that they did away with different CPU powers for the different storage capacities. Levels the field and gives developers one target to aim for. Nintendo & Sony should be worried.

- Jasen.


Problem is the GPS for iPod Touch is prohibitively expensive (more like 200 bucks)...when GPS chips are plenty cheap right now...


I guess 499 overall is less expensive than 799...
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post #47 of 111
9/1/10 at 12:19pm
I agree with the others who have mentioned. he said they were making drastic changes to the entire lineup. If the entire lineup consists of the 3 products he discussed, that would seem to imply the Classic is no longer current. I expect if it wasn't just him being forgetful, they will sell thru current stock at normal price or discount it soon, then knock any remaining into clearance and quietly discontinue it.
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post #48 of 111
9/1/10 at 12:22pm
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The only thing separating them now is the GPS and a cell phone chip.

Don't forget the monthly subscription charge. $299 is nothing compared to $2400 for a two year contract.
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post #49 of 111
9/1/10 at 12:23pm
omg you guys still complaining about no 3g or gps on the ipod touch....really!!! buy a damn iphone. WTF do you need 3g on a ipod touch for? do you intend on paying for data charges? get a iPhone..and stop complaining
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post #50 of 111
9/1/10 at 12:30pm
Records will be broken. will be another awesome quarter for iPods. Forget about classic, Touch is the where the puck is going to be.
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post #51 of 111
9/1/10 at 12:36pm
Now it has a both a mic and speaker. Don't want an iPhone with a contract? Get one of these and run the Line2 VOIP app with your own number for $15/month (WIFI only).
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post #52 of 111
9/1/10 at 12:37pm
Somewhat of a lackluster day as far as expectations we were given. I was hoping for at least a 3MP camera with a flash on the touch as that would make it the perfect work gadget for my job out in the field. Planned on buying a new iPod touch this morning before the announcement, instead I just bought myself a nice new rug for my living room.
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post #53 of 111
9/1/10 at 12:37pm
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omg you guys still complaining about no 3g or gps on the ipod touch....really!!! buy a damn iphone. WTF do you need 3g on a ipod touch for? do you intend on paying for data charges? get a iPhone..and stop complaining

I'm not complaining about no 3g...it's the lack of GPS. there are tons of GPS enabled apps now...

but again I guess 499 (299 + 200 for GPS cradle) is better than 799 for an unlocked iPhone here in Canada.
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post #54 of 111
9/1/10 at 12:37pm
Will one of the staff call Apple PR and ask them what each camera's specs are? Thanks in advance.

I see the mic next to the backside camera and a new improved speaker on the bottom.

Very disappointed in no capacity doubling this year and no 4GB Shuffle. Bummer for me.

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post #55 of 111
9/1/10 at 12:48pm
The still camera resolution is sufficient for uploads to Facebook, which is what I'll primarily be using it for. I certainly won't be using the new touch to take pics of my kids school concerts or sporting events. That's why I have a decent digital camera. And my digital camera doesn't allow me play music or games, surf the internet, check my email, or make Skype calls.
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post #56 of 111
9/1/10 at 12:56pm
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Originally Posted by Evil Monkey Creative View Post

Can someone confirm this? I looked all over the apple site and it would appear that the new iPod Nano has lost its video playing AND TAKING capabilities. Seems like a step backward since it was the first iPod to be able to take video!

You are correct sir. It is no longer available. I didn't think it was a heavily used feature.
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post #57 of 111
9/1/10 at 12:59pm
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I'm not complaining about no 3g...it's the lack of GPS. there are tons of GPS enabled apps now...

but again I guess 499 (299 + 200 for GPS cradle) is better than 799 for an unlocked iPhone here in Canada.

I agree. I was hoping for GPS - at least in a top-end model. The chips are cheap, and Apple already has support in the OS and the know-how to put one in. Perhaps GPS chips are closely packaged with cell-phone radio chips and the antenna would complicate (read add expense & size) to the design.

Magellen, TomTom, and Dual have jumped on board to augment their own stand-alone hardware devices with receivers for the Touch & their own software & maps. Why compete with Apple's gorgeous multi-touch display & CPU? Let Apple do all that engineering and R&D. I wonder if Garmin will get the message or if they'll fade from the handheld space.

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post #58 of 111
9/1/10 at 1:01pm
putting the same shite chrome back on it kills it for me. i was ready to pull the trigger but the chrome back ruins it for me. give us glass, give us brush aluminum, hell i'd take a plastic backing over the damn chrome. call me petty but i'm waiting another year (or 2)
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post #59 of 111
9/1/10 at 1:09pm
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I wanted an answer to that as well.

Classic is dead. You got the answer.
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post #60 of 111
9/1/10 at 1:11pm
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Classic is dead. You got the answer.

The classic is not dead it's still alive and kicking
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post #61 of 111
9/1/10 at 1:13pm
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Originally Posted by Multimedia View Post

Will one of the staff call Apple PR and ask them what each camera's specs are? Thanks in advance.

I see the mic next to the backside camera and a new improved speaker on the bottom.

Very disappointed in no capacity doubling this year and no 4GB Shuffle. Bummer for me.

It'll be torn apart and the specs will be posted within 24 hours of release.

Be patient.
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post #62 of 111
9/1/10 at 1:17pm
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Originally Posted by Flash_beezy View Post

The classic is not dead it's still alive and kicking

Alive? Sure. Kicking? Not so sure. My guess is they are probably ramping down and draining inventory. At best it's a placeholder for only a little while longer.

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post #63 of 111
9/1/10 at 1:37pm
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It'll be torn apart and the specs will be posted within 24 hours of release.

Be patient.

No need to be patient, all the specs have been on Apple's website for the past 2 hours.
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post #64 of 111
9/1/10 at 1:46pm
how does it happen that it can take 30x 1280×720 per second and cannot take more than 960 x 720 as pic ??? This is the only thing that stoppes me from buying it cannon imaging buying something with little better VGA camera ... agian ... as I did 5 years again.
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post #65 of 111
9/1/10 at 1:55pm
Isn't there always a but.. Still no FM radio? Doesn't anyone here listen to NPR? Local news etc? I podcast quite a bit, but I refuse to Podcast every program and internet radio streams drain battery, and tax the cpu rendering it an unacceptable alternative. I HATE that Apple does this. I know I am the minority but damn, damn it.. not interested in the Nano.
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post #66 of 111
9/1/10 at 2:04pm
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Isn't there always a but.. Still no FM radio? Doesn't anyone here listen to NPR? Local news etc? I podcast quite a bit, but I refuse to Podcast every program and internet radio streams drain battery, and tax the cpu rendering it an unacceptable alternative. I HATE that Apple does this. I know I am the minority but damn, damn it.. not interested in the Nano.

I know they do it all in the name of product differentiation, but I would also like to have the FM radio in the touch. It's like a 5 cent tuner chip by this time.

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post #67 of 111
9/1/10 at 2:18pm
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No need to be patient, all the specs have been on Apple's website for the past 2 hours.

No camera specs on the Apple website.

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post #68 of 111
9/1/10 at 2:22pm
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No camera specs on the Apple website.

As someone else mentioned, rear camera is 960x720 for stills. Disappointing, but hardly deal-breaking.
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post #69 of 111
9/1/10 at 2:23pm
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Originally Posted by Flash_beezy View Post

The classic is not dead it's still alive and kicking

More like life support and a coma.

Dead? No.

Vibrant? Hardly.

Same price, no upgraded specs? It's as good as dead.
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post #70 of 111
9/1/10 at 2:39pm
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No camera specs on the Apple website.

Copy and pasted from Apple website, ipodtouch specs page

""still photos (960 x 720) with back camera""
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post #71 of 111
9/1/10 at 3:04pm
What gets me is while the nano retains the fm radio why doesn't the new touch get it. I really wanted the fm in the touch. I wonder if it can be added or is the touch missing the fm hardware. Also leaving out gps is just dumb. I'm glad about rentals for tv shows but I still want the purchase option. I don't like how apple always likes to take away user choice. I hate the it's their way or no way attitude. So what happens to older appletv? Does it continue to function as normal? They should add visualizer to the appletv interface.
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post #72 of 111
9/1/10 at 3:43pm
I'm guessing the classic is on the road to being discontinued and they're trying to sell off the remaining stock.

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Steve said "all new designs for every model". Is the classic not considered an iPod?
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post #73 of 111
9/1/10 at 3:50pm
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Once again no GPS in the iPod Touch? Guess I wait another year.

GPS and 3G is what I wanted and figured I'd never get it so I finally gave up and got an iphone. Apple and ATT win. But I'm not complaining too much because the iphone 4 is pretty darned awesome. After reading all the FUD, it's amazing to see firsthand how great an iDevice it really is and how silly the complaints are.
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post #74 of 111
9/1/10 at 4:07pm
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Originally Posted by Evil Monkey Creative View Post

Can someone confirm this? I looked all over the apple site and it would appear that the new iPod Nano has lost its video playing AND TAKING capabilities. Seems like a step backward since it was the first iPod to be able to take video!

Yes, it is a step backward in that regard - but it has a tiny little screen now. If you want to watch video, the Touch is the way to go - it seems the nano is heavily music oriented now.

Not a bad thing I think!
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post #75 of 111
9/1/10 at 4:10pm
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how does it happen that it can take 30x 1280×720 per second and cannot take more than 960 x 720 as pic ??? This is the only thing that stoppes me from buying it cannon imaging buying something with little better VGA camera ... agian ... as I did 5 years again.

Heck, it's got cameras, enough for me! And even that still cam is better than my cell phone camera which I use for spontaneous memories photography. If your goal is to make impressive photographs, get a real camera - and the Touch at whatever it is (they say it's HD, over 1000 pixel wide res) video is more than enough for YouTube quality video.
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post #76 of 111
9/1/10 at 4:14pm
The best MP3 player on the planet just got better.
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post #77 of 111
9/1/10 at 4:21pm
Is it just me or new the iPod Touch comes with the standard earphones not the Apple Earphones with Remote and Mic??
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9/1/10 at 4:21pm
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Yes, it is a step backward in that regard - but it has a tiny little screen now. If you want to watch video, the Touch is the way to go - it seems the nano is heavily music oriented now.

Not a bad thing I think!

Apple likely has lots of data on usage and likely know how much the cam was being used as well as how much people would prefer a smaller form factor. The latter seems to have won the day and they produced a very nice little device. The wife wants one and I might "borrow" it to try out the pedometer while trying to lose a pound or two or three or...

 

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post #79 of 111
9/1/10 at 4:35pm
Hmmm, I was relieved when I read this article thinking that the new device had the same camera but now I'm hearing it's a less capable more compact component, likely without autofocus capability. This will probably limit the device's usage for OCR (E.g. On-the-fly lookup of words in a book's text by pointing the video camera at it). So this may mean that quite a few visual recognition apps (OCR, bar-code readers, etc) that work on the Iphone 3S/4 won't work on the new Ipod Touchs.

But wowee, who cares that it can't be used for any of this stuff right when we get a device 2.1mm even thinner than the iPhone4 (which was already pretty thin)?

All I can say is I hope the camera at least has AF.
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post #80 of 111
9/1/10 at 4:51pm
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Copy and pasted from Apple website, ipodtouch specs page

""still photos (960 x 720) with back camera""

I know but what pixel count each and does the back camera have a backside illuminated sensor like on the phone?

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